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  • Mid-Year Update Brings Rolling Batting Averages and Trend Ratings
    AVEFX, CET, DODWX, BMPEX, ICMUX, FCEF, BIVIX, QSPIX, QMNIX among funds leading their categories mid-year:
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  • Checking In
    @vkt
    Thank you.
    Down 9%? That is serious damage!
    Hmmm.
    Yep, certainly if you need to sell.
    But, glancing over some notable funds (thru Nov anyway), I'm in good company ...
    PIMCO ALL ASSET ALL AUTHORITY INST (PAUIX) -13.5
    T ROWE PRICE NEW ERA (PRNEX) -12.9
    BERWYN CORNERSTONE (BERCX) -12.8
    THIRD AVENUE INTERNATIONAL VALUE INST (TAVIX) -12.8
    YACKTMAN SPECIAL OPPORTUNITIES INST (YASLX) -12.7
    FPA CAPITAL (FPPTX) -12.3
    AQR FUNDS: AQR RISK PARITY II HV I (QRHIX) -12.2
    GABELLI VALUE 25 A (GABVX) -11.4
    GREENLEAF INCOME GROWTH (GIGFX) -11.3
    DODGE & COX INTERNATIONAL STOCK (DODFX) -11.2
    FRANKLIN INCOME A (FKINX) -10.7
    JANUS CONTRARIAN D (JACNX) -10.5
    WADDELL & REED ADVISORS HIGH INCOME A (UNHIX) -10.5
    PIMCO ALL ASSET INST (PAAIX) -10
    FORUM FUNDS: BECK MACK & OLIVER PARTNERS (BMPEX) -9.8
    ARIEL FOCUS INV (ARFFX) -9.7
    IVY ASSET STRATEGY C (WASCX) -9.4
    BRIDGEWAY ULTRA-SMALL COMPANY (BRUSX) -9
    It was a lame year.
    Break, break.
    Yes, backward-looking performance-based metrics have their limitations, indeed.
    c
  • Leuthold: not all dividend strategies are created equal
    Hi, guys.
    The nice folks at the Leuthold Group share a copy of Perception for the Professional, their research publication for paying clients, with me each month. About 60 pages of data analyses and reports. Jun Zhu this month wrote "Dividend Paying Strategies -- Which is Best?" and the findings are interesting.
    Zhu notes that dividend-oriented strategies have been exceedingly popular, though many now fret that those stocks have been badly bid up. There's also a fear that dividend paying stocks lag when interest rates are rising. That turns out to be true, but not an investable insight: rate rising cycles tend to be triggered with little warning and last an average of nine months.
    Even allowing for a lag during the 20% of months in which rates have risen, the strategy works well over time. Zhu writes "In the falling rate and neutral months, dividend paying stocks outperformed non-dividend paying stocks by a large margin. Regardless of interest rate changes, from 1927 to 2013, dividend paying stocks were the winner."
    Zhu argues that there are at least four distinct dividend oriented (or dividend-oriented? Drmoran notes that I over-hyphenate. Overhyphenate? Over hyphenate?) strategies that manifest themselves in funds and ETFs. They are:
    1. broad focus on dividend-paying stocks, which typically imposes simple size and liquidity requirements, then invests in dividend paying stocks.
    2. high dividend-yield, which targets the highest-yielding stocks.
    3. dividend growth, which requires consistent increases in payouts over 5-10 years.
    4. quality dividends, which adds screens for the quality of the firm's financial strength and management. Those might include debt load, return on equity, earnings stability and dividend coverage ratios.
    Leuthold tested those strategies by looking at the performance of dividend oriented ETFs from 1989 - 2014. They admit that few of the ETFs represent pure instances on one strategy of another, but most are strongly aligned with one of them.
    They found (1) the dividend strategies as a group substantially outperformed the S&P500 (12.2% annually versus 9.0%) with lower volatility (4.2% S.D. versus 4.3%), (2) that "companies which have raised dividends for 10 consecutive years are actualy the worst performers" and (3) the quality dividend strategy blew away the competition on returns without incurring heightened volatility.
    Quality dividend ETFs returned 14% annually with 4.1% S.D. The other three strategies clustered between 10.9% - 12.2% returns with S.D.s of 4.0 - 4.5%.
    Charles might be the one to ponder about the mutual fund implications of the research, since fund managers add the overlap of relative value and absolute value orientations. As I think about the funds we've profiled, Guinness Atkinson Inflation Managed Dividend (GAINX) strikes me as a quality dividend / relative value bunch while Beck, Mack and Oliver Partners (BMPEX) would qualify as quality dividend / absolute value.
    Leuthold's list of "quality" ETFs includes:
    Schwab US Dividend Equity (SCHD)
    iShares High Dividend Equity (HDV)
    FlexShares Quality Dividend Index (QDF)
    First Trust Value Line Dividend (FVD)
    WisdomTree US Dividend Growth (DGRW)
    FlexShares Quality Dividend Dynamic Index (QDYN, with the note this is a higher beta product)
    FlexShares Quality Dividend Defensive Index (QDEF, lower beta).
    For what interest it holds,
    David
  • questions for the Morningstar interviews
    Hi, guys.
    I'm prepping now for the Morningstar conference; I wanted to give you a heads up and to extend an invitation. I've got a series of manager interviews scheduled, in addition to the regular panel presentations. I thought I'd sketch out the confirmed interviews and ask if folks had questions they'd like me to raise with any of these folks.
    Wednesday is mostly panel presentations but we're meeting with Steve Owens, one of Touchstone's managing directors, at 5:00 to talk about their fund lineup and philosophy.
    Thursday is long.
    7:00 a.m. Breakfast panel with Litman Gregory. Talks by guys from Northern Cross (the late Hakan Castegren's firm, which does and Harbor International) and Water Island (the Arbitrage Fund crew). Some prospect for a question or two there.
    8:45 Zac Wydra of Beck, Mack & Oliver Partners (BMPEX)
    2:30 Bryan Krug of Artisan High Income, formerly of Ivy High Income (WHIAX). WHIAX is bloated but really solid; Krug substantially outran the comparable funds from Fidelity, T. Rowe and Vanguard during his tenure.
    3:30 Josh Alderman, a managing director at Diamond Hill, who wants to do the "firm philosophy" thing.
    5:30 Venkatesh Reddy and Kara Paik of Zeo Strategic Income (ZEOIX), folks who describe their philosophy as “short duration meets Benjamin Graham – we invest in short-duration corporate debt, carefully selecting each security in our portfolio of approximately 25 holdings."
    Unscheduled but likely is an informal conversation with one of the Columbia Acorn folks (he remembers me from the days that he was a high school debater) and, with luck, a interview with the Whitebox folks to discuss Tactical Income.
    If there are questions you'd like me to raise with any of them, let me know and I'll poke on your behalf.
    As ever,
    David
  • May commentary - Martin Capital not that impressive
    I guess the idea of investing in such funds would be: You think a bear market is coming, you think this will provide investment opportunities, you don't think that you're able (for whatever reason) to discover these opportunities when they occur, and you have confidence that Frank Martin (or whoever runs the fund) can and will discover and act upon these future opportunities. There's a whole array of funds as regards to their defensiveness. I guess MFVRX would be an extreme case and you could move through the list, coming across FPACX and, I don't know, YACKX, BMPEX, VDIGX, whatever, until you found the match for your confidence level in predicting the future and assessing a manager's competence.
  • our March 2014 issue is posted
    David, I enjoyed the link you provided to the Forbes article on Zac Wydra. I recently started investing in BMPEX after reading about it here. He and I have even shared a few emails. I couldn't be happier with my choice.
    Clem
  • Chuck Jaffe's Money Life Show 12/9/13: Guest: Our Own David Snowball
    Here's the short version of a 17 minute chat.
    The available research points to three conclusions:
    1. we could close 80% of all mutual funds without any noticeable loss to anyone other than the managers.
    2. more and more money is pouring into doomed funds, something like 30% of inflows are into "closet index" funds.
    3. there are characteristics which increase the prospects for future outperformance. Those include a focused portfolio, independence from the index, an alignment of the advisor's interests with the shareholders (risk-consciousness generally flows from that alignment) and reasonable expenses. In general, those characteristics are difficult if not quite impossible to achieve in a very large fund.
    At Chuck's prompting ("well, David, can you name a fund ...") I singled out Beck, Mack & Oliver Partners (BMPEX) as part of a group of owner-operator funds which also includes Bretton, Cook & Bynum, Frank Value and Oakseed Opportunity. I also allowed that if one were interested in a large fund, you could do worse than Tweedy, Browne Global (TBGVX) or Vanguard STAR (VGSTX).
    In his "hold em' or fold 'em" round, which is one minute assessments of funds (made in complete ignorance of the investors' needs) submitted by his listeners, I dissed Royce Low-Priced (RYLPX) and Permanent Portfolio (PRPFX) and endorsed Vanguard Dividend Appreciation Index (VDAIX, with a side-note that this is not a high-dividend fund), Seafarer (SFGIX with a side-note that Wasatch Frontier Emerging Small Countries Fund and the yet-to-be-launched Grandeur Peak Emerging Markets would offer higher octane exposure to the same universe), and Cook & Bynum (COBYX).
    For what it's worth,
    David
  • Reminder: David Snowball On Chuck Jaffe's Money Life Show: Monday, 12/9/13
    FYI: Funds to be discussed.
    Regards,
    Ted
    BMPEX, TBGVX, VGSTX During "Hold It or Fold It:" PRPFX, COBYX, SFGIX, WAFMX, RLPIX, VDAIX, VHDYX
  • capital gains distributions, Oakseed Opportunity (SEEDX)
    Hi David,
    Thanks so much. Do you think of Oakseed as similar to BMPEX in terms of the role it would play in your portfolio? They seem to both have interests aligned with investors, value focus, U.S. equity focus, capital preservation, sleep well at night type funds -- although Seedx can go anywhere if they so choose. thanks
  • Thanks David & MFO - BMPEX
    I just wanted to thank you Dave and the MFO folks. I recently started a Roth with BMPEX after learning about it here. I read everything I could find, I listened to the conference call etc... I exchanged several emails with Zac & Matt Shaver and I feel extremely comfortable partnering with Zac for the long term. I couldn't be happier with this addition to my Roth IRA's.
  • Are U.S. small caps in your portfolio?
    ...They think that the small cap space is egregiously, unsustainably overvalued and they see few attractive opportunities in the emerging markets...
    This is from the thread about SEEDX and what the managers think. I have a few go anywhere funds and checked portfolios of others. Most do not have much in the way of small caps. Funds checked were BPAVX, BMPEX, FPACX, IVWIX, MFLDX.
    Questions are do you hold U.S. small caps in your portfolio and in what percentage? Are you or do you plan on reducing exposure to US small caps in the near future?
    I hold 3 funds that have small/micro cap holdings totaling 14% of portfolio. PCVAX, VVPSX and BUFOX. Maybe time to reduce exposure. Seems some of these managers think value is elsewhere or none is to be had if they are in cash.
  • BMPEX Fund Question
    This fund has really got my interest. I really like focused value funds...especially an all cap "go anywhere" fund. I currently have one of each in Roth IRA's (OAKWX & GOODX). I've been a big fan of AUXFX and Jeff Auxier but I've always wished the fund was more concentrated. BMPEX is similar in my opinon, just more concentrated.
    In Mr. Snowball's profile of the fund he writes-
    Strategy capacity and closure
    The strategy can accommodate about $1.5 billion in assets. The plan is to return capital once assets grow beyond the optimal size and limit investment to existing investors prior to that time. Mr. Wydra feels strongly that this is a compounding strategy, not an asset aggregation strategy and that ballooning AUM will reduce the probability of generating exceptional investment results. Between the fund and separate accounts using the strategy, assets were approaching $500 million in August 2013.

    What exactly does that mean "return capital". If I were to invest 10K today and the fund assets grew to 1.6 billion. Then what? I understand closing a fund to new investors. I'm assuming closing a fund for good at 1.5 billion means I can no longer add new money, but returning capital?
    Can someone please explain.
    Thanks,
    Clem
  • Highlights: Beck, Mack & Oliver Partners conference call
    Dear friends,
    I spoke for about an hour on Wednesday evening with Zac Wydra of BMPEX. There were about 30 other participants on the call. I've elsewhere analogized Beck, Mack to Dodge & Cox: an old money, white shoe firm whose core business is helping the rich stay rich. In general, you need a $3 million minimum investment to engage with them. Partners was created in 1991 as a limited partnership to accommodate the grandkids or staff of their clients, folks who might only have a few hundred thousand to commit. (Insert about here: "Snowball gulps") The "limited" in limited partnership signals a maximum number of investors, 100. The partnership filled up and prospered. When the managing partner retired, Zac made a pitch to convert the partnership to a '40 Act fund and make it more widely available. He argued that he thought there was a wider audience for a disciplined, concentrated fund.
    He was made the fund's inaugural manager. He's 41 and anticipates running BMPEX for about the next quarter century, at which point he'll be required - as all partners are - to move into retirement and undertake a phased five year divestment of his economic stake in the firm. His then-former ownership stake will be available to help attract and retain the best cadre of younger professionals that they can find. Between now and retirement he will (1) not run any other pooled investment vehicle, (2) not allow BMPEX to get noticeably bigger than $1.5 billion - he'll return capital to investors first - and (3) will, over a period of years, train and oversee a potential successor.
    In the interim, the discipline is simple:
    1. never hold more than 30 securities - he can hold bonds but hasn't found any that offer a better risk/return profile than the stocks he's found.
    2. only invest in firms with great management teams, a criterion that's met when the team demonstrates superior capital allocation decisions over a period of years
    3. invest only in firms whose cash flows are consistent and predictable. Some fine firms come with high variable flows and some are in industries whose drivers are particularly hard to decipher; he avoids those altogether.
    4. only buy when stocks sell at a sufficient discount to fair value that you've got a margin of safety, a patience that was illustrated by his decision to watch Bed, Bath & Beyond for over two and a half years before a short-term stumble triggered a panicky price drop and he could move in. In general, he is targeting stocks which have the prospect of gaining at least 50% over the next three years and which will not lose value over that time.
    5. ignore the question of whether it's a "high turnover" or "low turnover" strategy. His argument is that the market determines the turnover rate. If his holdings become overpriced, he'll sell them quickly. If the market collapses, he'll look for stocks with even better risk/return profiles than those currently in the portfolio. In general, it would be common for him to turn over three to five names in the portfolio each year, though occasionally that's just recycling: he'll sell a good firm whose stock becomes overvalued then buy it back again once it becomes undervalued.
    There were three questioners:
    Kevin asked what Zac's "edge" was. A focus on cash, rather than earnings, seemed to be the core of it. Businesses exist to generate cash, not earnings, and so BM&O's valuations were driven by discounted cash flow models. Those models were meaningful only if it were possible to calculate the durability of cash flows over 5 years. In industries where cash flows have volatile, it's hard to assign a meaningful multiple and so he avoids them.
    In follow up: how do you set your discount rate. He uses a uniform 10% because that reflects consistent investor expectations.
    Seth asked what mistakes have you made and what did you learn from them? Zac hearkened back to the days when the fund was still a private partnership. They'd invested in AIG which subsequently turned into a bloody mess. Ummm, "not an enjoyable experience" was his phrase. He learned from that that "independent" was not always the same as "contrary." AIG was selling at what appeared to be a lunatic discount, so BM&O bought in a contrarian move. Out of the resulting debacle, Zac learned a bit more respect for the market's occasionally unexplainable pricings of an asset. At base, if the market says a stock is worth twenty cents a share, you'd better have remarkably strong evidence in order to act on an internal valuation of twenty dollars a share.
    Andy asked how Zac established valuations on firms with lots of physical resources. Very cautiously. Their cash flows tend to be unpredictable. That said, BMPEX was overweight energy service companies because things like deep water oil rig counts weren't all that sensitive to fluctuations in the price of oil.
    A number of other contributors to the discussion board were there and I'd be delighted to get their take on the evening. Folks interested in listening in can get the .mp3 at http://78449.choruscall.com/dataconf/productusers/mfo/media/mfo131016.mp3.
    As ever,
    David
  • Investing: Some New Funds Worth Considering
    John and I had a nice chat over the noon hour yesterday. His general theme was "now we can get back to normal finance topics, rather than 24/7 debt crises." Mine was, "yep, but it's not going to get any easier." John does read MFO (you might be surprised by the wide variety of folks - from the WSJ, Baltimore Sun, NY Times and a slug of fund firms - who scan both the board and the fixed content) and suggested that he'd rather talk first, instead of just "borrowing" ideas.
    My suggestion was to look for managers who'd help investors make it through turbulent, rapidly shifting markets. I clustered those into two groups:
    • risk conscious managers with experience and flexibility in their investment mandates - Seafarer (SFGIX), F P A Paramount (FPRAX), RiverPark Strategic Income (RSIVX).
    • risk conscious managers who have a sensible, steady investment discipline that they might actually be able to get investors to understand and buy into - Beck Mack & Oliver Partners (BMPEX), Oakseed Opportunity SEEDX), Frank Value (FRNKX), Bretton (BRTNX), Cook & Bynum (COBYX).
    Afterwards, we talked about international travel and John's observation that being perceived as disrespectful was a much bigger problem than not speaking the local language. Romans, he noted, mostly spoke enough English to help you get by and enjoy the city -- unless you were wearing shorts and ball caps and galumphing around.
    For what interest it holds,
    David
  • a reminder: we're talking with Zac Wydra of Beck, Mack & Oliver tonight, 7:00 - 8:00 Eastern
    Thanks David. I love these calls.
    These folks have beaten the S&P fairly consistently, especially over longer periods. They appear shareholder friendly with good explanation of strategy and decent ER. No load. No 12b-1. But it does look like they are kicking-back for NTF at Schwab.
    I like your comparison to D&C in the MFO profile. BMPEX seems a bit more conservative (or at least better stock pickers), which helped during the 2008 collapse.
    They seem to manage risk mostly within the context of equity market, not all allocation or all authority. So, you can expect market-like losses (or gains) as the tide rolls in and out.
    As I look at their returns, they marched to the index in the first 10 years (1993-2003), but then came into their own. Took the hit in 2008. But have come on strong the past 3 years.
    So, questions:
    1. How has their strategy evolved through the years? In particular, after the tech bubble and then after the more recent financial bubble.
    2. How do they feel about equity evaluation lately? Reading their reports, I suspect they think markets are over-heated...at least in US.
    Here are the risk/return numbers across four different intervals, comparing against some other notables, sorted by absolute return:
    Since 1993 (about 20 years)...
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    Since 2003 (about 10 years)...
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    Since 2008 (last 5 years)...
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    Since 2010 (last 3 years)...
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    Will be calling in from El Capitan State Beach...a little piece of heaven.
  • a reminder: we're talking with Zac Wydra of Beck, Mack & Oliver tonight, 7:00 - 8:00 Eastern
    MFO Board Members: For you information here is a M* & Lipper Snapshot Of Beck, Mack & Oliver Partners Fund. (BMPEX)
    Regards,
    Ted
    M* Snapshot: http://quotes.morningstar.com/fund/f?t=BMPEX&region=USA&culture=en-US
    Lipper Snapshot: http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/fund/bmpex
    Beck, Mack & Oliver Website: http://www.beckmack.com/USStrategy.aspx
  • David Snowball's October Commentary (with RSIVX and RGHVX updates, in answer to your questions)
    Reply to @kallerid: We're working out a date in the second or third week of December for a call with David. October (Zac Wydra of BMPEX) and November (John Park and Greg Jackson of SEEDX) were already taken.
    David
  • October is up!
    Happy October David!
    Very much enjoyed the commentary this month, once again.
    Thirty-three percent of the currently fantastic funds were not so distinguished twelve months ago.
    Suspect that is true of so many "Best Funds" lists! In this case such wisdom only cost $250.
    I'd venture to say you believe FPA Paramount looks pretty promising, despite its strategy change and new manager (ie., David's Take of FPRAX is Positive). High marks for parentage and its manager's performance with FPIVX, even if the September's profile proper seemed a bit ambivalent.
    There is one and only one bright spot in the picture for active managers: international small cap funds, nearly 90% of which outperform a comparable index. Which international small caps qualify as Fantastic you might ask? That would be, none.
    Gotta love it.
    The bottom line: invest your intellectual resources where your likeliest to see the greatest reward. In particular, managers who invest largely or exclusively overseas seem to have the prospect of making a substantial difference in your returns and probably warrant the most careful selection. Managers in what’s traditionally the safest corner of the equity style box – large core, large value, midcap value – don’t have a huge capacity to outperform either indexes or peers. In those areas, cheap and simple might be your mantra.
    Nice!
    Tealeaf Fund "will eventually ask you for 2.62 – 3.62% of your money each year." No words.
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    Nice graphic.
    What does the large-cap growth or small-cap value manager do when there are no good opportunities in their style box? They hold cash, which lowers your exposure to the equity markets and acts as a lead-weight in bull markets, or they invest in companies that do not fit their criteria and end up taking excess risk in bear markets. Neither one of these options made any sense when I was managing family-only money, and neither one made sense as we opened the strategy to the public …
    My thoughts precisely!
    "If there is no opportunity, we leave the space." But Mr. Frank remains invested in equities, of some market cap, looks like. FRNKX came into its own during current bull run:
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    OBIOX ranks top honors in the MFO risk-adjusted rating system for the past 3 and 1 year periods. "Indeed, OBIOX in 2013 isn’t even the OBIOX of 2009." Good thing. Between October 2007 and March 2009, OBIOX incurred a horrifying -70% drawdown. It rates a 2 in risk-adjusted return over past five years. After six years, the new strategy is producing new highs.
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    Just registered for the Beck, Mack & Oliver Partners (BMPEX) call. Absolutely love these calls. You're changing landscape here David.
    In early December we’ll give you a chance to speak with the inimitable duo of Sherman and Schaja on the genesis and early performance of RiverPark Strategic Income, the focus of this month’s Launch Alert.
    Looking forward to this!
    As of Friday, 10/4, RiverPark Strategic Income Fund (RSIVX, RSIIX) was still not available at Schwab.
    Looking forward to reading Greener Pastures.
    "Virtus Dynamic AlphaSector Fund (EMNAX)...Class A Shares, 2.56%; Class B Shares, 3.31%; Class C Shares, 3.31%; and Class I Shares, 2.31%." No words.
    FMI Focus (FMIOX) will reorganize itself into Broadview Opportunity Fund in November. It’s an exceedingly solid small-cap fund (four stars, “silver” rated, nearly a billion in assets) that’s being sold to its managers.
    Interesting.
    Meridian Value (MVALX) is Meridian Contrarian Fund. Same investment objective, policies, strategies and team.
    Wow.
    "They are killing off three funds that were never a good match for the firm’s core strengths." Good for M&N.
    Just don't know how you pack so much in every month! In any case, can't thank you (and Chip et al) enough.
    Off to farmers' market.
    Charles
  • Bretton Fund 3 Years Next Month - On Track for Great Owl Status
    Thanks for the tip about Vanguard availability. Requires a transaction fee, but brokerage availability makes this much more attractive for me.
    I like the combination of all-cap scope, concentrated portfolio and relatively low turnover. It seems like a similar strategy to Beck Mack & Oliver Partners BMPEX, which is profiled by David this month.
    What makes me a little wary of Bretton are the relatively high expense ratio (1.50%) and very small asset size ($6.7 million) -- the latter of which makes me wonder if the fund will be sustainable. BMPEX, on the other hand, charges 1.00% on assets of $144 million.