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  • Marketfield MFLDX: What will happen after the takeover?
    Link to proxy statement:
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1141819/000089418912003675/mrktfld-tpm_pre14a.htm
    (middle to bottom of page 20)
    ...Shareholders of the Fund (Marketfield fund) will receive Class I shares of the Acquiring Fund in connection with the Reorganization. Following the Reorganization, you will be eligible to purchase Class I shares, to the extent available, in any other fund that is part of the Mainstay Group of Funds, provided you continue to hold Class I shares in your account, including current accounts maintained at financial intermediaries. Because of the Class I eligibility requirements, Class I shares are not available for all financial intermediary firms, investment platforms or investment accounts. Therefore, if you move to a different financial intermediary, or the policies of your current financial intermediary change you may not be able to hold and/or purchase Class I shares of any fund in the MainStay Group of Funds or you may be subject to certain investment minimums or other restrictions, in addition to those found in the Acquiring Fund’s prospectus. Alternatively, you may maintain your account directly with the Acquiring Fund in order to continue to hold and purchase Class I shares. Please see the Acquiring Fund’s prospectus and SAI for additional information regarding Class I eligibility.
  • DALBAR Reveals Investor Shortcomings
    Hi MikeM,
    Thanks for your informative contribution. You enhanced the dialogue with your perceptive comments.
    I suspect we shared some common learning experiences along the poorly marked investment pathway.
    I too did my own stock selection for about three decades using various fundamental analyses, technical plotting, and newsletter tip approaches. Although I had some modest successes, I also suffered a few painful losses. The time commitment added stress to the entire process. In the mid-1980s, I initiated my first mutual fund investment with the Peter Lynch managed Magellan fund.
    In the 1980s, Fidelity allowed Lynch to invest without much in the way of corporate policy constraints. I believe much of his early success could be attributed to the “go anywhere” philosophy that Fidelity permitted Lynch to exercise; he invested in foreign markets long before they became a popular US financial destination.
    As you recall, Lynch retired in 1990 as an active Fidelity fund manager. His replacement, Morris Smith didn’t handle the pressure well, and he was quickly replaced by Jeff Vinik in 1992. I liked Vinik; he guided a size bloated Magellan with an aggressive leadership style. He went where he believed the excess returns were hidden.
    Unfortunately, in the short-term for Vinik, and, eventually in the long-term for Fidelity, Vinik strategically sold equity holdings for bond positions around 1994. That major asset allocation shift failed and Vinik was sacked for his ill-fated market timing. However, he quickly recovered when he established a very successful and profitable Hedge fund operation; I’m not convinced that Fidelity has ever subsequently found a successful manager for its Magellan product.
    I abandoned Magellan soon after Vinik was fired. That was one of my better investment decisions since I moved my Fidelity holdings into their Low Price Stock (FLPSX) and Contrafund (FCNTX) offerings which I still own.
    Like you, I prefer to allow the fund management liberty to make sector and broad category asset allocation moves that reflect their dynamic market assessments. That’s part of why I hire them. It’s not that they are smarter than you or I, but rather they have the resources and time to more fully collect the requisite information, critically assess it, and decide on an action plan. This can be an overwhelming chore for a private investor, irrespective of his market instincts, savvy, and skill set.
    I suppose that is the primary reason why members of the MFO community are so committed to the mutual fund/ETF approach to constructing a portfolio. Investing in individual stocks is a deep, time-consuming sinkhole.
    It is indeed hard to escape the emotional aspects of investment decision-making. Using mutual funds and ETFs help. For some, even this tactic fails to quell the anxiety factor. At that level, perhaps hiring a financial advisor would provide some needed relief. I think most MFO participants do not suffer this malady.
    Best Wishes.
  • Friday Fund Fun?, Market Switch Flip at 10:45pm .....LIP
    Morn'in Scott,
    Thank you for the linked article. I watched the move late last night, but did not find or see any related story and had to hit the pillow. Surely didn't expect the 19th or is it the 20th EU summit to be awake and holding a press conference at 3am Euro Time.
    Some traders have and others will gather some great profits trading the ups and downs of some markets over the next week or so; however, the root cause of the tooth ache is not gone and the topical application of the numbing agent is only temporary.
    Past what would appear to be a leaning negative towards the markets, which may be the case for a longer period of time; I really do prefer a bunch of stability, as the longer this situation travels down the road, the more regular folks on the planet will continue to be financially and emotionally damaged. The big and rich cats may scream over losing a million(s) in their personal financial accounts since April; but will have enough remaining to choose any dinner meal on the menu at the local 5 star feeding station.
    Some of our bond funds may get a clip today; but not motivated to sell any.
    Take care,
    Catch
  • Friday Fund Fun?, Market Switch Flip at 10:45pm .....LIP
    This:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/full-eu-summit-statement-all-its-conditional-wishy-washy-glory
    This is a very, very technical chart that leads the reader through the European situation. It's a superb, in-depth look at the real, underlying details.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/01/Einhorn chart.jpg
    Jim Rogers: "Rogers says the market euphoria brought on by the news, which saw a surge in Asian stocks, the euro and risk assets like oil, will not last.
    "How many times have this happened in the last three years - they have had a meeting they have made an announcement, the market have rallied, two days later the market say wait a minute this doesn't solve the problem," he said."
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/financial-armageddon-happen-despite-eu-061542925.html
  • RPHYX RiverPark Short Term High Yield: What role in your portfolio?
    David's done a nice job explaining the fund's process in the past, but I don't recall much. Your question however is a good and logical one. Have often bought into funds I liked first & then looked for a way to fit them in. If it's a great enough fund in your view, you'll find a way. Am inclined to say there's nothing new under the sun - though the managers obviously think they've found a dandy niche. I'd say cash is cash - about as dependable as you can get in just about any financial crisis (but don't yield anything). Next in my mind would be an "ultra-short" fund heavy in investment grade stuff. The old Strong Advantage I once owned could keep up to 25% upper tier junk. While I owned it she was as true as real cash - used it like a money market to pay household bills. But these funds suffered during the panic of '08. RPHYX I'd put further down the ladder, but like the Sears Die-Hard, it may have a very long & profitable run before put to the test. Two things to consider: (1) with funds designed for safety or stability it's really important to read and understand the prospectus. Study up on the various bond ratings & which they are allowed to hold. Unlike an equity fund, you DO NOT want your manager to have a lot of latitude. (2) Figure out what it is you want your cash to do for you. Since I hold a healthy dose of junk, want the cash position about as pure as can get it - as a counter balance. Also tend to trade quite a bit, so want the cash where it will incur the least restrictions on trading and where it's easy to move back & forth into my existing equity funds. Hope this helps a little.
  • RPHYX RiverPark Short Term High Yield: What role in your portfolio?
    Howdy Claimui,
    You noted: "I parked some money in RPHYX a few months ago, and now I am trying to understand how I should use this fund in the long term: as an alternative to cash, or as part of my bond allocation, or in some other way. If U have a 70/30 split between stocks and bonds, is RPHYX a suitable replacement for the "bond" portion of the portfolio? Or should I stick to a typical "core" bond fund such as VBMFX, PTTDX, DLFNX, etc."
    >>>>> We don't hold this fund; but it is indeed a speciality bond fund, and would be a complementary bond fund holding for us; among our other bond funds. VBMFX and PTTDX are more broad based, while DLFNX does and will probably continue to tilt towards mortgage bonds, unless Mr. Gundlach finds problems with this area going forward.
    "In the other thread about the role of fixed income in a portfolio, BobC noted that he advises clients to expect 2-4% from bonds over the next 10 years. According to Morningstar, RPHYX's 1 yr trailing performance is 3.61%, and its SEC yield is 3.65%. In this context, RPHYX's performance as a bond fund seems very respectable. It has returned (and is currently yielding) at the upper end of BobC's target range with very little change in NAV."
    >>>>> I have to presume BobC's reference is an annualized, total return from a broad based bond fund holding(s). I don't know what to expect that far out into the bond/financial world and will attempt to adjust going forward, as needed.
    "On the other hand, Vanguard's Total Bond Market VBMFX has returned 6.49% over the same period but with much more volatility. In isolation, I would think that if my bond target is 2-4%, and RPHYX is already returning 3.61%, then VBMFX is not worth the risk. However, I don't know how this plays out in the context of a portfolio. Maybe VBMFX is a better diversifier and thus a better choice a hedge against equity risks."
    >>>>> As to risk of RPHYX versus VBMFX; one would have to consider risk in the HY bond sector in general and what affect this might have upon RPHYX and how it deals with a special area of the HY bond area. VBMFX is definitely more diverse. Another consideration is that although RPHYX has a current yield of about 3.75%, it also has an ER of 1.25% (temporary, and could be adjusted to 2.2% range); while VBMFX has a yield of about 2.75%, but an ER of .25%. Not as much yield obviously, but one is saving 1% in ER, too. Additionally, at least for me; I would continue to measure RPHYX against SPHIX. Not the same critters in function; but they are cousins. I note SPHIX, as it has a very long record of returns, is well managed and ranks 47 of 563 HY funds over the past 5 years, which of course, includes the market melt period. Since its inception, has shown RPHYX to have a slow and steady upward path when measured against swings in the traditional HY bond funds, but with about 1/2 of the total return.
    "I noted in David's June commentary that he was planning to update his profile of RPHYX, so maybe this is one of the things that he could comment on. The original profile highlighted RPHYX as an alternative to money market funds but did not really discuss whether it could be a "core" bond fund in the context of a portfolio."
    >>>>> For our house, for most aspects; we currently use TIPs funds for our "cash" holdings, while any of our other bond funds serve a similar purpose and could be sold for equity positions. The TIPs funds are very liquid; thus part of their usage desire. The ultimate test for RPHYX would be enough of a market scare (lasting at least 3-6 months) that also would affect the traditional HY bond sectors to find the fund's reaction to buyers and/or sellers in this area. For our purposes, we would maintain a total type bond fund for a core holding in this area.
    My 2 cents worth............
    Take care,
    Catch
  • RPHYX RiverPark Short Term High Yield: What role in your portfolio?
    Claimui, I decided recently to put some cash into RPHYX as a money market equivalent after doing my due diligence. For those of you who may consult Yahoo charts, the price swoon on 2-24-12 is an error. I called the fund and they are contacting Yahoo to fix it. So far in its history RPHYX has been very stable price-wise, but it has yet to be tested by a 2008-type financial debacle (not that I'm wishing for one). As for my core bond holdings I lean towards the Doubleline funds, DBLTX and DBLFX, and PIMIX. At the end of the day RPHYX is still a bond fund, so I will be monitoring it as closely as I monitor any other bond fund holding.
  • What are the disadvantages of moving mutual funds to a supermarket like Fidelity , Schwab, etc
    NTF funds at brokerages generally have broker-imposed short term trading fees in addition to any imposed by the fund itself, e.g. Schwab imposes a fee on NTF funds sold within 90 day of purchase.
    Brokerages may impose their own min on funds (e.g. Fidelity imposes a $2500 min on funds in taxable accounts even if the fund itself has a $1000 min). Conversely, brokerages often let you into institutional funds at lower minimums, especially within IRA accounts.
    Some fund families will waive brokerage commissions on house ETFs (e.g. Vanguard doesn't charge for Vanguard ETF purchases through Vanguard Brokerage, Schwab doesn't charge for Schwab ETF purchases). On the other hand, brokerages may waive commissions on outside-sponsored ETFs (e.g. Fidelity waives brokerage charges on some iShares).
    Some fund families offer perks that you won't get through Fidelity or Schwab, e.g. TRP offers free premium M* accounts if you keep $100K at TRP; Vanguard offers a free financial plan if you keep over $500K in Vanguard funds directly with them.
    Typically if you want to transfer an account out of a mutual fund family, the transfer is free. Brokerages typically charge $50-$100 for this service. (It's call an ACAT transfer.)
    Brokerages are always tinkering with their NTF list, so funds that you purchased NTF may go off that list at a later time (so you'd need to pay to sell or even transfer out).
    Brokerages are not good at providing foreign tax credit info on funds. (You may need to know the amount of foreign income your shares generated - sometimes you still need to go to the fund family to get this info, but if you invest directly with the fund that info may be on your account statement.)
    Some fund families let you into closed funds if you own a sibling fund. I suspect that it would be harder to do this through a brokerage, though I haven't pressed the issue yet. (And it would certainly require human intervention which would likely incur a transaction fee, even for a fund that was NTF when purchased online.)
    --------------------
    All that said, if you've got a bunch of different NTF funds that you don't trade frequently, consolidating them at a brokerage makes things much easier to deal with. And the brokerages (especially Schwab) make it possible to get into some institutional (cheaper) or load funds at a lower min and without a load.
  • Feeling Pain
    Re: "The historical database suggests that ..." Yes MJG, your figures for money markets, bonds & equities should hold water over very long periods of perhaps 100 years or more. No wonder we mere mortals have a hard time applying such potential returns to our investments. There's no easy answer. However, your recent post on "luck" ("probabilities" as I suggested) may be relevant in assessing likelihoods nearer-term. Case in point: long government bonds may well have captured much of their century-long return over the preceding 25 years and quite possibly will not enjoy a similar spectacular run again for 50 years.
    Re: "Complete honesty and transparency is a rare commodity in the financial services community."
    I would amend to read: "Complete honesty and transparency is a rare commodity."
    Regards, hank
  • Q&A with Steve Romick (CNBC & M*)
    Reply to @AndyJ: Agree to disagree (perpetual said it well further down, too, and I'm not going to even get started on some of the specific comments in the comments section.)
    As for tougher questions, that's absolutely hilarious. Financial media is never about difficult questions or there wouldn't be a CNBC (who interviews Chubby Checker for his thoughts on "Operation Twist") or Bloomberg. CNBC asking a tough question is hell freezing over. Bloomberg might actually ask a tough question accidentally here-and-there.
    If CNBC started actually asking tougher questions, 1:) many people wouldn't even come on anymore and 2:) people may not like what a lot of people have to say. As is, when CNBC anchors get difficult responses, they often appear to not like what the guest has to say and look as if they're frantically trying to figure how to move on.
    At least the Morningstar interviewer allowed Romick to get his thoughts out without looking all frowny because Romick wasn't being cheery and telling people everything is going to be awesome. Even worse, he wasn't telling people to buy the latest BS momo stock.
    The constant BS and spin of CNBC (and Leisman in particular, who is an embarassment) is in many ways the reason why they're doing lousy. A little honesty about reality in the last 5 years would have been helpful to their audience.
    The best moment was an interview with Jim Rogers a year or two ago when called CNBC (while being interviewed on CNBC) a "market PR agency." It's not incorrect.
    Odd that this interview brings out all the demands for tougher questioning.
  • Feeling Pain
    Hi Guys,
    To quote President Bill Clinton. “I feel your pain.”
    I was moved to write this post by Igno’ s palpable distress over the unseemly misbehavior of financial agents of various stripes. For the most part, he sees this huge cohort populated by unscrupulous highwaymen and undisciplined charlatans. Here is his posting on the matter:
    http://www.mutualfundobserver.com/discussions-3/#/discussion/3376/exactly.
    Igno draws some approximately accurate pictures, but he paints with too broad a brush. He condemns an entire industry because of some popular misunderstandings within that community, because of a few miscreants, and because of common everyday advertising puffery.
    Bad stuff happens. Even as victims of these unhealthy practices, we should try to forgive bad advice if it is honestly offered. Admittedly, it is sometimes difficult to ferret-out the innocent advisor from the guilty or the incompetent one. But we do have resources to do so.
    The flood of information accessible on the Internet to both professional and amateur investors alike makes this task doable. Our connectivity to these sources is unparalleled. However, since many of them are unverified, the reliability of each candidate source must be challenged by skeptical scrutiny. Aiding our task is the daily (for the day trader, the minute-by-minute) pricing of the global marketplace. It has never been simpler to keep score by comparing the hired-hand’s performance against a good benchmark.
    Many members of the MFO family can help in this task and freely volunteer to do so.
    Let me now address the specific issues that troubled Igno. He was angered by the tortured statement "Studies have shown that over the long-term it is not your individual investments that determine your investment results, but your investment allocation." In this instance, that quote was lifted from the SeekingAlpha website. The quote purportedly comes from the 1986 research paper “Determinants of Portfolio Performance” by Gary P. Brinson, L. Randolph Hood, and Gilbert L. Beebower. That paper is almost universally misunderstood and misquoted. The SeekingAlpha article just continued that legendary misrepresentation.
    The Brinson paper focused on the monthly variability of institutional portfolio returns, not on their absolute returns. The paper reported that 93.6 % of the VARIABILITY in the returns could be coupled (correlated) to asset allocation. Other studies have made similar conclusions, although the specific percentage is not quite as high as the original Brinson finding. Some academics and industry researchers have contested the methodology in the original study.
    William Jahnke is an often referenced critic. Here is a Link to his “The Asset Allocation Hoax” article:
    http://www.norcal-ai.org/dwnld/2008-AssetAllocationHoax-Jahnke.pdf
    The debate continues in detail, but the accumulated evidence is overwhelming. Asset allocation does directly influence absolute expected returns, and when properly deployed can control return variability. The Brinson research definitely did not conclude that it is highly likely that Warren Buffett and Jim Cramer would generate similar outcomes if they managed your portfolio. They would not.
    Profits are a requisite target when assembling any venture. One of the guiding principles of any economic model is that there are no free lunches. In some way, you must always pay to play.
    In a lottery, the charge is usually about 50 % pot retention for the lottery organizers. On a racetrack, the track operators withhold about 15 % of each race kiddy, about half for the State and about half for themselves. As John Bogle often says: the croupier must be paid.
    The good news is that the marketplace is not a zero-sum game. Unlike the lottery, or the racetrack, or Las Vegas, all of which extract their fees so that the gamble payoff matrix reverts to a less than zero-sum game, the financial marketplaces have historically delivered positive outcomes even after fees have been extorted.
    For any investment, it is very important to have a general sense of the potential payout matrix. Realistic expectations are mandatory when making asset allocation decisions. The key is to get some premium over annual inflation rates.
    The historical database suggests that Money Market funds will generate about 0.5 % annually above inflation. Short term government bonds generate about a 0.75 % premium. Moving up the scale, longer term government bonds offer about a 3 % advantage, whereas high quality corporate bonds typically sweeten the payout by 4 % over inflation to accommodate increased risk. Large cap equities typically provide a 5 to 6 % premium, and small cap equities advance the expectations to perhaps 9 %. Historically, gold has merely traced inflation rates. Recognize that these are approximate values meant to illustrate an escalading returns scale as a function of risk.
    Given the Gold recent ascendancy, this last historical statement demonstrates just how distorted annual returns can become, dependent on political, economic, and public sector sentiment factors. These distortions can persist for an extended period, but eventually there is a regression to the mean. Patience is a critical component when implementing any investment strategy. Overall, market return base rates must be recognized and acknowledged during portfolio construction.
    All businesses are designed to be money machines. Las Vegas casinos are not in business to give away money. All aspects of their various branch operations are distinct profit centers. The same is true in the financial world. Financial consultants are no exception.
    It is the clients duty to measure the contributions of their hired consultants against their costs. Cost/benefit analysis is an economic way of life. If a hired consultant disappoints relative to his promises, and/or misrepresents his performance record, fire the bastard. You are always free to choose.
    I certainly agree that it is sometimes difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff. However, that too is your duty as the ultimate decision maker.
    You must be particularly alert when doing the separation. I’m not certain, but it is likely that Oscar Wilde once remarked that some of us have a compulsion to complete the separation process fairly, and then inexplicably toss away the wheat.
    I’m not sure of that last attribution, but this one definitely came from Oscar Wilde: “The salesman knows nothing of what he is selling save that he is charging a great deal too much for it.”
    All literature and talking points originating from the vested-interest party must be interpreted skeptically. That’s a universal given. The source and the source’s motivates must always be assessed. I am currently rereading Edward Bernay’s frightening book, “Propaganda”.
    Bernay is associated with being an early proponent for influencing public opinion using statistical analysis and psychological tools. He is credited with changing America’s breakfast habits to a ham and eggs society. His 1928 book is considered a classic, and supposedly served as a template for Joseph Goebbels Nazi propaganda agenda. The opening paragraph in the book is appalling in its scope and frankness. Here it is:
    “THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.”
    Complete honesty and transparency is a rare commodity in the financial services community. Each entity is a slave to its own incentives. But if that entity understands the art of long term strategy, those incentives must reflect customer considerations. An informed customer knows how to keep score, and the servicing agency knows that he knows. To remain a viable business in the long haul, that agency must incorporate a client’s wealth wellbeing in their business model; otherwise it is doomed. So, there are some excellent money managers and financial organizations.
    I suspect, with a few outstanding exceptions (like Bernie Madoff), most mutual fund operations do faithfully attempt to properly align the client’s portfolio with their goals. Unfortunately, given political, economic, and market uncertainties coupled to the vicissitudes of unreliable public sentiment that is all too prone to be stampeded by Bernays-like propaganda, these firms frequently fail to satisfy those goals.
    Indeed, at times, I too share Igno’s pain and hurt. But that experience is an inherent part of investing. Skill matters, but luck happens.
    Your comments are welcomed.
    Best Regards.
  • exactly.
    from seekingalpha.com:
    The Asset Allocation Lie starts like this, "Studies have shown that over the long-term it is not your individual investments that determine your investment results, but your investment allocation." Now let's step back and think on this for a second. Warren Buffet is generally considered the greatest investor ever. In one sentence, every Financial Advisor has just belittled and indeed, insulted his life work. They have not only insulted his investment decisions and results of the past six decades, but also his lifelong desire to teach the public at large about how to invest appropriately. This insult continues on to his shareholders who invested in his company on the belief that they might reap excess investment rewards in the future. Every Hedge Fund Manager, every Portfolio Manager, that has utilized proper stock selection, like Mr. Buffet, as their investment strategy and has achieved success with that investment strategy is being insulted. Every one of their investors, who invested with them in the belief that they could utilize proper stock selection as an investment strategy, is also being insulted. And there is one final person who is also insulted by this entirely false concept, and that is: everyone else, literally. Every individual investor who has not invested with or even heard of Warren Buffet is being insulted by almost every financial firm and advisor in the industry since these strategies, enacted by the successful investment managers, are not being presented as options to the public at large. This is the Lie.
    Then there is the Deception. The Deception uses the Lie to get you, the unknowing individual, to trust the Financial Advisor (or more accurately described, the Salesperson) and utilize their services as well as their firm. Because as long as you don't know about the other, more effective investment strategies of elite investment managers, you'll turn your money over to idiots. The idiots are active investment managers who are incapable of beating relevant benchmarks over a reasonably significant period of time.
    Finally, there is the Steal. The firm and the advisor charge what seems to be a "low fee" in relation to historical returns, but is in fact a very high fee for the actual services they perform for the client. This "low fee" grows over time as you save and invest more capital and have some positive investment returns. As the "low fee" grows, the compensation to the firm and advisor grows while they continue to do effectively nothing. This is the second part of the joke in action, "But if you steal a little bit of money, from a large segment of people over an extended period of time, you get rich." Who gets rich? Not the client, but the firm and the advisor.
  • The Quest for Yield What about Bonds?
    Reply to @catch22: The author, who is a financial advisor, merely points out the risk associates with bond funds or bond ETFs with respect to raising interest rate. One can lost value in their principal (decline bond prices) while maintain the yield in interest rate hike. So avoid long duration bonds and use short/intermediate term duration bond funds instead.
    The author suggests buying individual bond and hold to their maturity date, the principal will be paid in full along with the coupon yield regardless of interest rate. Also create a bond ladder to ensure income stream. However, this will require bond selection skills and large $$ for diversification. These the exact reasons individual investors use mutual funds/EFT to gain broad bond exposure, and professional actively management.
  • Seafarer Overseas & Growth fund
    Q&A with Andrew Foster in Investing Daily
    http://www.investingdaily.com/15227/emerging-market-stocks-the-bric-is-just-the-beginning
    Ben: What countries are most attractive right now?
    Andrew Foster: Vietnam is well positioned. Some investors are concerned that its growth model isn't very healthy, since the state sector is not particularly well managed and creates distortions in the economy. But the private sector is vibrant and growing quite rapidly.
    China and some of the other more developed emerging markets in Asia have been shifting their manufacturing bases to lower-cost economies. Vietnam stands to gain much of that business. Meanwhile, on the domestic front, Vietnam continues to make sound regulatory changes, even if those changes haven't always pleased the market. For example, some investors are worried about heavy-handed regulations on Vietnam's banking sector, but those concerns are misplaced. The regulators are acting in quite a benign way to promote medium- to long-term growth by forcing some consolidation among the banks and clamping down on certain speculative activities.
    There's also a lot to be excited about in Malaysia. Some interesting economies and sub-industries have begun to spring up there. For example, Malaysia has a growing medical equipment sector, and a number of burgeoning financial services industries. With regard to the latter, Malaysia has a leading global position in Islamic finance, predominantly serving Southeast Asia. These are intriguing niches where Malaysia has managed to secure a foothold and become quite competitive. On the other hand, the economy as a whole does have a fair bit of export sensitivity, and that could be problematic during a global downturn.
    South Korea is another market that offers opportunity. Samsung Electronics (Korea: 005930, OTC: SSNLF) and Hyundai Motor (Korea: 005380, OTC: HYMTF) have become strong enough to practically dominate their industries. South Korea also has some very competitive and well-managed companies that are incredibly cash generative, but have yet to see their valuations rise to reflect their underlying fundamentals. Those stories are lost behind the excitement over the country's export competitiveness.
    There's been a bifurcation in the market's opinion about whether to favor companies that produce impressive top-line growth, but whose cash flows are not nearly as strong, or companies that produce strong cash flows, but have more moderate growth. That's created a situation where investors interested in South Korea can still find defensive, undervalued names with attractive yields.
    Thailand deserves attention too. We're reasonably positive about Thailand's political outlook, as well as the country's recovery after last year's floods. The economy seems to be picking up momentum after a difficult 2011, and we've been excited to see many Thai companies that had suffered serious setbacks regain lost ground. There's reason to be optimistic about Thailand in that context.
    Mexico also has a robust economy. It does have linkages to Europe, and there has been concern about the narcotics wars there. Despite those issues, the economy has been surprisingly stable and productive. And there are Mexican companies that offer attractive dividend yields and have healthy, unlevered balance sheets.
  • Fuss and Hasenstab M* interview on the future of income investing.
    Howdy msf,
    Well.......yes, I was just kinda mess'in around with outloud thinking placed into words here.
    As you noted, the bonds I mentioned still could move much higher in yield and we too; do not play in this area of trading.
    My fantasy thinking with these particular bonds and their yields (of which, our house places close attention) is that, my best guess is that if either of the yields become much higher........well, there is going to be much more stress in financial systems and I still don't know what the various entities in Europe can do to fix the situation.
    The scary part of this for these two countries and the affects spread over the entire Euro financial system, is that I can't imagine how any country being deep into the "do-do" of monetary affairs can afford to pay these yields.
    Not unlike one who has a high credit card balance and finds the notation about the minimum monthly amount required and what the payback period and amount will be if one only makes the minimum payment.
    Still a pretty nasty situation.
    Take care,
    Catch
  • Extreme Avoidance: T. Rowe Price Small Cap. Value Fund
    Not to sound like a broken record about poor financial journalism, but he lost me when he said that low turnover helps keep the expense ratio down. Turnover affects brokerage costs and also has market impact (i.e. moving market prices upward as you buy, and downward as you sell). But neither effect is included in the expense ratio. Rather, they're hidden performance costs, which is one reason why one needs to look at turnover in addition to looking at expense ratios.
    The writer makes it sound like this fund has higher than average market cap for a small cap fund, because it will let winners ride. The opposite is the case. The fund does not have to "conform" (read: buy) stocks with market caps within the Russell 2000 range, but rather stocks with market caps within the Russell 2000 range or below. Read the prospectus (Principal Investment Strategies section). That's why over 1/3 of the fund is in microcaps, and only 1/6 is in midcaps, and why this fund can serve as a good entry into microcaps for someone who does not want to hold a separate microcap fund.
  • Why David Herro is Betting Big on Europe
    Reply to @Derf: Hi Derf. No idea if the financial sector is a buy now. Just adding to Scott's point that financials looked like a bargain or a good value play back in '09-'10. But those who jumped in early got beat-up pretty good. Berkowitz is the poster child for that move.
    Have a good weekend and happy fathers day to you.
  • Why David Herro is Betting Big on Europe
    Reply to @scott:
    "There is great value in Europe and there is going to be greater value in Europe, but the banks aren't it."
    I agree with you. If we parallel what's going on in Europe and how they will recover to the US recovery, every US sector has recovered and then some except financial. If you graph all the sector ETF's starting from the start of 2008 to the present, the only sector that has not come back is financial, still down about -35%. Compare that to sectors like consumer discretionary and consumer staples, up ~ 50% and 40% respectively since start of '08. If Europe's recovery is similar to the US recovery, sectors other than financial offer much better opportunities then the financial 'value trap' (as you said). As seen in the US, the European financial sector could take many years to reach a positive slope to recovery. -just my 2cents.
  • questions for Eric Bokota, FPA International Value
    1. How do you compare your value investing style at FPA versus Harris/Oakmark and Brandes since you also spent time working at those other 2 places?
    2. Since you worked as an Analyst at Harris/Oakmark and the Oakmark International/Global funds have been gobbling up Japanese stocks for over a year now --- why have you taken a different path and stayed completely away from Japanese stocks?
    3. What was your investment case/thesis for Brambles, G4S and Legrand? And why do you think the market has mispriced their stock?
    4. Tell us about Turkey? Are there no companies there that appeal to you considering that they are based in Europe but do not face the financial/economic troubles of Western Europe? Would you say that Turkey interests you but in an indirect way? For example - you are invested in Diago and last year they purchased Mey Icki Distillery for $2.1B in cash and is Turkey's biggest spirits company, which holds an 80 percent share of the country's top-selling spirit categories. I guess you see that as a positive and an indirect way for you to invest in Turkey and take advantage of the health of that country versus most of Europe?
    6. What typically creates opportunities for you to buy?
    7. How do you create your list of potential buys?
    8. Do you visit a lot of companies and is that face to face meetings important to you from a research/evaluation perspective?
    9. What were your most important investing influences early on?
    10. How do dividends play a role in your evaluation/consideration of a company?
    11. What are your thoughts on Nokia stock which has been battered I believe over 80%. Is their stock not cheap enough and you believe this is a value trap? Balance sheet looks poor? Too much future uncertainties and competition in the mobile handset market?
    12. Do you like investing in small foreign subsidiares of large multinational companies that trade separately from the parent company?
    13. As a follow-up question to my earlier mention of Diageo (which you are invested in) - what do you think about their Balance Sheet? Meaning do you think the 7 Billion Euros of debt (last I heard) is a fairly safe amount of leverage for Diageo and is a non-issue?
    14. What would be your investment thesis not to invest in Spain's Telefonica?