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  • FBR sold to Hennessy
    FBR just announced the sale of their mutual fund unit to Hennessy Advisors. Of the 10 FBR funds, seven will retain their current management teams. The managers of FBR's Large Cap, Mid Cap and Small Cap funds are getting dumped and their funds are merging into Hennessy funds. One of the mergers (Large Cap) is likely a win for the investors. One of the mergers (Mid Cap) is a loss and the third (Small Cap) has the appearance of a disaster.
    FBR Large Cap (FBRPX, 1.25% e.r., 9.2% over three years) merges into Hennessy Cornerstone Large Growth (HFLGX), three year old large value fund, 1.3% e.r., 13.8% over 3 years. Win for the FBR shareholders.
    FBR Mid Cap (FBRMX, 1.35% e.r., five year return of 3.0%) merges into Hennessy Focus 30 (HFTFX), midcap fund, 1.36% e.r., five year return of 1.25%. Higher minimum, same e.r., lower returns - loss for FBR shareholders.
    FBR Small Cap (FBRYX, 1.45% e.r., five year return of 4.25%) merges into Hennessy Cornerstone Growth (HGCGX), small growth fund, 1.33% e.r., five year return of (8.2). Huh? Slightly lower expenses but a huge loss in performance. The 1250 basis point difference is 5-year performance does not appear to be a fluke. The Hennessy fund is consistently at the bottom of its peer group, going back a decade. This is a clear "run away!" for the FBR shareholders.
    One alternative for FBRYX investors is into FBR's own Small Cap Financial fund (FBRSX), run by Dave Ellison, FBR's CIO. Ellison's funds used to bear the FBR Pegasus brand. The fund only invests in the finance industry, but does it really well. That said, it's more expensive than FBRYX with weaker returns, reflecting the sector's disastrous decade.
    David
  • FutureAdvisor...free retirement portfolio tool
    From WSJ Article:
    "FutureAdvisor, which has no ads, bills itself as a free alternative to paying a lot for financial advice from professionals, who often charge a 1% annual fee or work on commission. Many big investment firms offer retirement-savings services, but these generally don't offer step-by-step advice for an investor's complete portfolio."
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303506404577448503218010424.html?mod=e2tw
    The Website:
    https://www.futureadvisor.com/
    Anyone familiar with this site?
  • Trigger points, Long-Short funds (D-I-Y), what are you thinking???
    A few thoughts:
    1. There are companies that I want to continue to hold and effectively have "put away" for the long-term. I continue to have sort of a "level 1", "level 2", "level 3" feel about things - "1" is effectively "put away, "2" are long-term holds as long as things hold together, while "3" are things that can be sold off if things turn sour. Profit was taken on a couple of "3"'s this week, but I can't really see anything else being sold off.
    2. I have a great deal of alternative investments that have held up reasonably well. I also have some lower-key US and foreign stocks (Dairy Farm in Asia) and things like Brookfield Infrastructure, which has held up because I think it's unique and quality, but also because of the yield that everyone is desperate for. I have things that will do well if reflation at any cost is the desired end result by governments (and that wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, really), and I have some low-key things that are more defensive.
    3. There are some good l/s funds and a lot that aren't great. People can short (the profunds and rydex short funds are NTF and no minimum holding at some brokerages, but it's a matter of having some sort of plan and being willing to sit through rumors and BS if one wants to make a short bet at this point.
    " Is this period just a re-do of 2010 and 2011, or otherwise? Or do you feel this is just a blip to ride out and the problems will be resolved in a timely manner to your satisfaction and have no long term impact upon your portfolio? "
    4. I think that the idea that this could be a "re-do" is upsetting as is; it really suggests that there is either no sustainable plan or no desire to try to figure something out. I think if this is a "re-do", the fact that this is year three is horrendous and there's a point where short-term fixes are simply not going to be acceptable by the market or populace. At some point, QE and LTRO and other interventions don't have the desired effect because the market and populace sees these tactics not working to solve anything.
    You can't keep having "Groundhog Day" finance, where problems keep coming back year-after-year and being putting off year-after-year. We had one of the worst financial crises in the history of this country - it wasn't going to be solved with a wave of the magic monetary policy wand. This is (and was) going to take years, and all the interventions have only added time and to the bill. The country needed some fiscal rehab, but that's not fun and that's not popular - and money that could have really helped go towards projects that could have brought the country up and kept us competitive instead went towards propping crap up and special interests.
    QE3 is probably coming, but it will help asset prices in the short-term (probably shorter than before) and none of the underlying problems, and we'll be having this conversation again next Summer, although I think if the can can be kicked that far again I'd be impressed. Again though, it should become apparent that there is absolutely no long-term fixes coming, just QE's and LTRO's and rumors. Eventually, it dawns on the market that something more substantial is needed than throwing money at the problems. Then things get really interesting.
    5. I'm still not buying T-bonds. lol.
    People have to be cautious and throw out the old playbook for the years to come. People can't rely on that it's an election year, etc.
    And I referenced this is another thread regarding the very successful Winton Hedge Fund group: "NEED A WEATHER MAN
    The scientists at Winton say one thing that sets them apart is the sheer amount of data they base their algorithms on. More historical information, they say, helps put price trends into context.
    The company's London offices display charts tracking the prices of commodities going back hundreds of years, old maps and bank notes and even a dividend cheque from the 18th-century South Sea Company.
    Winton sends researchers to libraries and archives across the world to find numbers held in books and on microfilms. It has found barley and sesame prices from ancient Babylon, and English wheat prices going back to 1209.
    It now employs more than 90 researchers, including extragalactic astrophysicists, computer scientists and climatologists. The company hired a meteorologist who had researched the "El Nino" phenomenon. The physics graduate - Winton wants to keep his name secret for fear a rival might poach him - works in London correlating weather data to crops such as corn, wheat and soybeans. That data can be used to forecast how prices might fluctuate with the weather.
    While traders in commodities have long looked at weather statistics and forecasts, the attempt to computerize the process creates the basis of an industry."
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/21/us-trading-blackbox-idUSBRE84K07320120521
    ---------------
    Where have things gotten to in the markets when hedge funds have to send researchers to find prices of grain from Babylon in order to get that little bit of edge over the competition?
  • The Real Bond King Says "Buy"
    Howdy Kaspa,
    Your money is in a good place; as you should have been able to keep your equity gains from last fall and now compounding upon that. The ultimate plan, eh?
    One may suppose some magical event taking place and the financial troubles will be healed and gone. NOT!
    If we find a bit more twitch in the system on Monday, will would likely further offload the more sensitive bonds.....HY, EM and do a trim job on LSBDX. Hopefully, some of the remaining diversified bond funds will maintain.
    'Course I know there are those who are awaiting bond holders to get their clock's cleaned. Your BOND holding at least allows you to head for the hills within a few minutes of trading.
    Good work for paying attention to the items you monitor.
    Regards,
    Catch
  • June 2012 update is posted
    Reply to @kevindow: MFLDX relies upon macro calls, but it's like anything else - a long-only manager making sector calls, etc. The fund's immense flexibility in terms of multi-asset makes it particularly appealing. The fund's monthly reports also include well-written and thoughtful commentaries that do an excellent job explaining the fund's views.
    BPLSX I wish was open - that's just tremendous stockpicking *in both directions.*
    The entirely derivatives-based AQR Risk Parity fund - I think - has worked quite well and isn't terribly correlated to the market.
    Another category that could be considered for coverage are the "Event Driven" funds.
    In the "oddball" category I'll note James Alpha Global Enhanced Real Return, an "absolute return" fund run by the former long-time manager of Pimco Commodity Real Return. The fund is an "absolute return" fund focused almost entirely on emerging markets and commodities (goal - To achieve attractive long-term risk-adjusted returns relative to traditional
    financial market indices, through real asset and hedged strategies, while seeking
    to limit the effects of a broadly inflationary or deflationary monetary environment.) (GRRAX)
    It has only gently crept higher over the last year and a half, with hardly any volatility and returns that look like an Arbitrage fund, which now seems rather pleasant. Not something I'd invest in, but just pointing out a rather "unique"/unheard of fund.
  • Invest With An Edge ... Leadership Strategy Update ... May 29th
    RBC Wealth Management
    Michael D. Ruccio, AAMS
    Senior Vice President -Financial Advisor
    25 Hanover Road
    Florham Park, NJ 07932-1407
    (p) (866) 248-0096
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    michaelruccio.com
    related - rbc wealth management article
    Market Week: May 29, 2012
    The Markets
    Equities came out of the gate strong on Monday and managed to snap their recent losing streak, with the small-cap Russell 2000 taking the baton from the larger caps. Meanwhile, the euro fell to a two-year low of $1.25 and oil slid to roughly $90 a barrel, while gold saw a slight bounce to end the week near $1,558 an ounce.
    Market/Index 2011 Close Prior Week As of 5/25 Week Change YTD Change
    DJIA 12217.56 12369.38 12454.83 .69% 1.94%
    Nasdaq 2605.15 2778.79 2837.53 2.11% 8.92%
    S&P 500 1257.60 1295.22 1317.82 1.74% 4.79%
    Russell 2000 740.92 747.21 766.41 2.57% 3.44%
    Global Dow 1801.60 1754.30 1760.51 .35% -2.28%
    Fed. Funds .25% .25% .25% 0 bps 0 bps
    10-year Treasuries 1.89% 1.71% 1.75% 4 bps -14 bps
    Equities data reflect price changes, not total return.
    Last Week's Headlines
    The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development and the head of the International Monetary Fund called for greater shared liability among eurozone members for one another's debts. The moves raised hopes for the prospects of a joint "eurobond" and could undermine the triple-A rated countries' insistence on unpopular austerity measures. Meanwhile, as talk of a Greek exit from the eurozone grew louder, leaders continued to gamely insist they want to avoid a "Grexit," even as data from European businesses raised concerns about weaker economic activity. The uncertainty pushed the yield at a German auction of short-term debt to zero as investors sought a safe(r) haven.
    In other sovereign-credit news, Fitch downgraded Japan by two notches, from AA to A+. The rating agency said the decision was because of the country's high level of debt (more than 200% of its gross domestic product--an even higher ratio than Greece's more than 160%, according to the International Monetary Fund).
    Spain's government was hit with additional bailout requests. Bankia, one of the country's largest banks, said it will need a substantially larger amount than previously thought, and the regional Catalonian government said it also needs help paying its debts.
    In the United States, sales of existing homes jumped 3.4% in April and, according to the National Association of Realtors®, both the median price and overall sales were up 10% compared to the previous April. It was the 10th straight month of higher year-over-year sales. New home sales also improved; the Commerce Department said new home sales rose 3.3% for the month and were up almost 10% from the year before, though the median sales price increased only about 5%.
    Durable goods orders saw their second increase in three months. The Commerce Department said demand for cars and car parts helped push orders up 0.2% in April.
    Faceplant: After Facebook's share price plummeted in the days following its IPO, the Securities and Exchange Commission said it is looking into whether firms that underwrote the offering warned key clients at the last minute about the company's financial challenges without also making the information available to the investing public.
    Changing of the guard: Days after the Facebook IPO, computer maker Hewlett-Packard announced the company would lay off 27,000 employees--8% of its workforce--over the next two years. CEO Meg Whitman said the decision was designed to help the company address the growth of such forces as mobile devices and cloud computing.
    Eye on the Week Ahead
    The holiday-shortened week will be packed with economic data. As always, Friday's unemployment numbers will be closely watched, as will any revisions to the 2.2% initial estimate of first-quarter GDP growth. European Central Bank President Mario Monti is scheduled to speak on Wednesday; given the uncertain situation with Spain and Greece, investors will be watching for any additional ECB response.
  • Blue-Chip Dividend Growth Stocks Today's Strong Option For Retirement Portfolios
    Hi Kenster,
    Part I..........................
    First, I appreciate your efforts for your postings; and in particular taking the time to pull the text from this article.
    I'll offer my viewpoint, from the same age perspective as the writer of the article; but no stretch of the imagination as to his experience or financial studies background may compare to my limited formal financial studies. I do not have a document to hang upon a wall indicating a graduation status. However, I differ in what and why I see or find; in relation to the article writer.
    The article notes:
    "There is a confluence of factors that are painting a very odd picture of current investor behavior. Common sense and a careful analysis of the market dynamics between equities and bonds today would indicate that investors should be acting in the exact opposite manner than they are. Interest rates are hovering at a 100-year low, which creates two problems for investors. First, there is not enough return from bonds to fund a retiree's income needs or to fight inflation. Second, investing in bonds with interest rates so low makes it riskier to own bonds today than it has been in over a century.
    >>> As to a "sense", I don't find the behavior of many investors out of place. I do not have the time to write a paper about all of the statistics; but some of the basic considerationss would be who are these investors? What are the clusters by age and whether the monies being discussed have been filtered for those who are active in monthly 401k, IRA and related investment types, versus those who already have the bulk of their contributions in place; being the baby boomers and are a whole other statistic. Yes, there is not enough yield from current bonds to fund a retirees (at this point the writer indicates a specific group) needs. This assumes a buy and hold circumstance; as many bonds are at a negative and flat yield return relative to inflation. Our house finds no reason to presume we will buy and hold some bond fund positions; and this is the key point for any investor. One had better pay attention, or stay away from the markets, including the equity sectors.
    Nevertheless, investors are not only making a classic mistake, I believe they are making a very obvious and thus quite avoidable mistake. It is an undeniable fact that bond prices go down when interest rates go up. Since interest rates cannot go to zero or below, it logically follows that interest rates have nowhere to go over the long term but up. Perhaps, as many believe, federal intervention may keep rates low for another year or so. But in the longer run, the powerful forces of the market can only be contained for so long.
    >>> Some of this section is based upon a presumption of a solid economic base. Many countries, of economic power, are not on any solid ground at this time. Interest rates may indeed go up in the long term; but what is this long term? Is this term 3-5 years away, versus a year? So called bond vigilantes can cause moves in rates of some countries, as in Europe. At this time, I do not feel these folks have enough money to begin to offset the ability of the Fed and/or Treasury to provide whatever actions they see fit to operate.
    Yet given what I've already said, we continue to see that bond mutual fund inflows remain at a record high, while simultaneously equity fund outflows are some of the largest on record.
    >>> I susupect part of this money flow; although I don't have access to such data, is that in spite of some pension funds playing in the hedge funds and other "asset" allocation areas, many pension funds will maintain portions of their holdings in bonds for the long term; and likely with the hope that they can "leverage" movements in prices.
    In searching the Internet for a long-term graphic on 10-year U.S. Treasury notes I came across the following 110-year chart courtesy of the financial blog Observations. Although the chart from 1950 through 2010 illustrates a clear mirror image of interest-rate behavior, the portion going back to 1900 is even more illuminating. This is not statistical mumbo-jumbo showing correlation without causation, this is a factual depiction of interest rates spanning over 110 years.
    >>> While looking at long term, historical charts and graphs can be interesting; I find little value in attempting to establish relationships from the "wayback" machine to anything today. While the average life span of a U.S. male was age 53 one hundred years ago, it surely has little value today in making assumptions about a statistic going forward, based upon 100 year old charts and graphs. If this statistic still had value today; it is likely that half of us using discussion boards......would not be; as we would already be pushing daisies up from the dirt. And the discussion about problems with Social Security would be a "non-issue", eh?
    To summarize, the only rational reason that people are eschewing stocks in favor of bonds is fear. The precipitous drop in stock prices during the great recession has yet to be forgotten. On the other hand, what is forgotten is the fact that the same thing can happen to bonds as well. Therefore, I believe the irrationally exuberant confidence in bonds is ill-gotten. The only reason bond prices haven't fallen in 30 years is because interest rates have been falling since the early 1980s. When interest rates fall, bond prices go up and therefore an even greater aura of safety surrounds bonds. Keep in mind; although prices on pre-issued bonds will go to a premium as interest rates are falling, the premium vanishes at maturity.
    >>> No ! The past 5 years do not have a direct relationship to why and/or what caused interest rates to continue down for the prior 30 years the writer mentioned. This statistic was reset in 2007 and remains in place today. The so-called "aura" of safety is always in the eye of the beholder. What safety did a large percentage of individual investors, pension funds and many prominent investment and economic thinkers discover beginning in mid-2007. Had many of them used the most simple study of 50/200 moving averages; let alone all of the other statisical data that really started to flip and become nasty after October, 2007; they could at least have dialed down their exposure to some equity sectors. From my recall, a buy and hold of equities from and during the market melts of 2008/2009, hit a breakeven point in the fall of 2011.
    Additionally, there are several facts regarding the long-term ownership of quality dividend paying equities that many people either overlook or forget. But perhaps the most important fact is that any of the damage that the great recession caused was only temporary in nature for the prudent and intelligently patient investor. The prudent investor is defined as one who in the first place, was careful to only invest in blue-chip equities when valuations made sense. This is especially true for the best-of-breed blue chips that continued to generate strong earnings during the recession and consequently raised their dividends. Inevitably, the stock prices on quality companies whose earnings held up eventually return to fair value.
    >>> There is no problem with owning quality dividend paying stocks for the potential of the dividend and the price appreciation of the underlying company(s). But, when the mood is not to the favorable side of equities in general; not unlike rising interest rates affecting and pushing down the value of bonds; the dividend is of little consequence and will be offset by falling prices of the company(s).
    In other words, as long as the stocks were not panic sold out into price weakness, existing shareholders soon recovered their temporary losses while continuing to enjoy a steadily growing dividend income stream along the way. As I also stated before, it’s not the volatility itself that represents risk, but rather the emotional reaction to volatility which is where the real risk sits.
    >>> If the time frame was noted; we would have a better understanding of this "recovery period" noted here.
    As I have contended in this article, and others, as long as solid operating results remain intact, then I believe that shareholders have little to worry about except fear itself. Stock price volatility is often more a function of the emotional response than it is the rational response in the short run. However, in the longer run, I have long believed that dialectic thinking will prevail and rational behavior will follow. In other words, I was confident that stock prices will inevitably return to their fundamentally justified valuations.
    >>> This is a critical point, indeed. Solid operating results. Except when the market movers don't really give a rip about any of this; and will rely instead upon the minute functions of algorithms and only attempt to make a tiny percentage profit in each and every minute of a trading day; and then to do the final math at the end of the day to find whether the profit for the day was better than 1%.
    There are many pundits and prognosticators that never weary of attempting to convince investors on how risky it is to invest in equities, even high-quality dividend blue-chip paying equities. Invariably, they will always point to volatility as the evidence supporting their thesis that stocks are too risky of an investment for retirees. Personally, I believe this is a great travesty that is prominently promogulated upon an unwary investing public. Hopefully, it is more out of ignorance of the true facts than it is by bad intentions. The inevitable interruptions in the business cycle have conditioned people into believing that stocks are riskier than they really are, at least in my opinion.
    End Part I.....................
  • Blue-Chip Dividend Growth Stocks Today's Strong Option For Retirement Portfolios
    "To summarize, the only rational reason that people are eschewing stocks in favor of bonds is fear. "
    Not entirely. I believe distrust is absolutely a primary reason - many people's faith and trust in the financial system is broken and that's simply going to take time. People who are near retirement age and just went through the worst financial crisis in history are - in many instances - not going to take major risks again.
    I mean, look at mutual fund flows - three years of near-constant outflows from equity funds (mostly domestic, which I find fascinating) and into bonds, which shows no signs of stopping. That - to me - looks like an orderly flow of people out.
    Are bonds the right choice? Fundamentally no, but that's where people are - they don't want to take the risk of equities and when you take away any sort of interest on checking or CDs, people flock to all sorts of bonds and you get an angry mob of seniors who are upset they aren't getting much interest on their fixed income and who get 0.0000000000001% on their CDs.
    Additionally, as for the market, Flack said it well in another thread: "I know that a few of you will say, “But that didn’t happen in 1952 or 1968 or whatever year.
    I don’t know how many times I’ve said this but this is not your father’s stock market.
    You father wasn’t matched up against computerized trading that doesn’t give a rat’s ass
    about fundamentals.
    This means that you should evaluate the market conditions
    as they are currently and forget about what the market was like
    some 30, 40, and 50+ years ago."
    ...and I think a fair amount of retail investors are also starting to get that - that the balance of power has shifted even further out of their favor.
  • Blue-Chip Dividend Growth Stocks Today's Strong Option For Retirement Portfolios
    Blue-Chip Dividend Growth Stocks Today's Strong Option For Retirement Portfolios - Part 1
    http://news.morningstar.com/articlenet/SubmissionsArticle.aspx?submissionid=144075.xml
    There is a confluence of factors that are painting a very odd picture of current investor behavior. Common sense and a careful analysis of the market dynamics between equities and bonds today would indicate that investors should be acting in the exact opposite manner than they are. Interest rates are hovering at a 100-year low, which creates two problems for investors. First, there is not enough return from bonds to fund a retiree's income needs or to fight inflation. Second, investing in bonds with interest rates so low makes it riskier to own bonds today than it has been in over a century.
    {...}
    Nevertheless, investors are not only making a classic mistake, I believe they are making a very obvious and thus quite avoidable mistake. It is an undeniable fact that bond prices go down when interest rates go up. Since interest rates cannot go to zero or below, it logically follows that interest rates have nowhere to go over the long term but up. Perhaps, as many believe, federal intervention may keep rates low for another year or so. But in the longer run, the powerful forces of the market can only be contained for so long.
    Yet given what I've already said, we continue to see that bond mutual fund inflows remain at a record high, while simultaneously equity fund outflows are some of the largest on record.
    {...}
    In searching the Internet for a long-term graphic on 10-year U.S. Treasury notes I came across the following 110-year chart courtesy of the financial blog Observations. Although the chart from 1950 through 2010 illustrates a clear mirror image of interest-rate behavior, the portion going back to 1900 is even more illuminating. This is not statistical mumbo-jumbo showing correlation without causation, this is a factual depiction of interest rates spanning over 110 years.
    {...}
    To summarize, the only rational reason that people are eschewing stocks in favor of bonds is fear. The precipitous drop in stock prices during the great recession has yet to be forgotten. On the other hand, what is forgotten is the fact that the same thing can happen to bonds as well. Therefore, I believe the irrationally exuberant confidence in bonds is ill-gotten. The only reason bond prices haven't fallen in 30 years is because interest rates have been falling since the early 1980s. When interest rates fall, bond prices go up and therefore an even greater aura of safety surrounds bonds. Keep in mind; although prices on pre-issued bonds will go to a premium as interest rates are falling, the premium vanishes at maturity.
    {...}
    Additionally, there are several facts regarding the long-term ownership of quality dividend paying equities that many people either overlook or forget. But perhaps the most important fact is that any of the damage that the great recession caused was only temporary in nature for the prudent and intelligently patient investor. The prudent investor is defined as one who in the first place, was careful to only invest in blue-chip equities when valuations made sense. This is especially true for the best-of-breed blue chips that continued to generate strong earnings during the recession and consequently raised their dividends. Inevitably, the stock prices on quality companies whose earnings held up eventually return to fair value.
    {...}
    In other words, as long as the stocks were not panic sold out into price weakness, existing shareholders soon recovered their temporary losses while continuing to enjoy a steadily growing dividend income stream along the way. As I also stated before, it’s not the volatility itself that represents risk, but rather the emotional reaction to volatility which is where the real risk sits.
    {...}
    As I have contended in this article, and others, as long as solid operating results remain intact, then I believe that shareholders have little to worry about except fear itself. Stock price volatility is often more a function of the emotional response than it is the rational response in the short run. However, in the longer run, I have long believed that dialectic thinking will prevail and rational behavior will follow. In other words, I was confident that stock prices will inevitably return to their fundamentally justified valuations.
    {...}
    There are many pundits and prognosticators that never weary of attempting to convince investors on how risky it is to invest in equities, even high-quality dividend blue-chip paying equities. Invariably, they will always point to volatility as the evidence supporting their thesis that stocks are too risky of an investment for retirees. Personally, I believe this is a great travesty that is prominently promogulated upon an unwary investing public. Hopefully, it is more out of ignorance of the true facts than it is by bad intentions. The inevitable interruptions in the business cycle have conditioned people into believing that stocks are riskier than they really are, at least in my opinion.
    {...}
    As I have discussed in this article and many previous articles, I believe investors should behave according to the advice of legendary hockey star Wayne Gretzky who taught us "I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been." In that vein, I believe that tomorrow successful investors will follow Wayne Gretzky's lead.
    For the past several decades bonds have been a great refuge of safety and attractive return, especially for the investor desirous of income. But I believe a careful examination of the 110-year-old 10-year Treasury bond history presented in this article indicates that that is about to change. Conversely, I believe the future for US based dividend paying equities is quite bright. At least that is where I recommend skating in today's investment environment.
  • Sell in May, Except in Election Year
    Reply to @DlphcOracl:
    Hi DlphcOracl,
    Thanks for your needed contribution. Nothing succeeds more than real world, hands-on experience when evaluating a product.
    The commentary that concentrated on Stack’s portfolio management record surprised me since the primary thrust of my original post concentrated on his statistical research. In performing that study he was merely gathering and massaging uncontroversial numbers.
    Numerous portfolio selections test his judgments and decision making; my main focus only requires unbiased data collection, accuracy, and completeness. Typically, engineers (Jim Stack was formally educated in that discipline) are very good at this latter task, but sometimes expose shortcomings in the former task which demands interpretive deftness.
    Since MFO members expressed some curiosity In Stack’s performance as a portfolio manager, I retrieved a glossy brochure that his team provided at their workshop. That brochure summarized his recommended portfolio record for about 12 years ending in April 2012. He contrasted his performance against the S&P 500 Index as a benchmark.
    For that roughly 12-year period, the Stack portfolio generated a cumulative return of 118.0 %; for that same timeframe, the S&P 500 produced a 19.5 % reward. Dividends were reinvested in the comparison. In general, the chart showed attenuated losses during equity market downturns, which is consistent with Stack’s claim to have a “safety-first” management style.
    A separate bar chart illustrated that the Stack recommended portfolio outperformed the S&P benchmark for both 5-year and 10-year measurement periods, but his approach fell below the S&P 500 returns for the last 1-year period. I have no idea if his presentation material has been audited for accuracy, but I trust it is.
    Jim Stack’s performance is provided net of fees. That’s fair. His fees seem modest. He offers a sliding fee scale that starts at 1.4 % for 600 thousand dollars and drops below 1.0 % at the 1.25 million dollar marker. The Stack Financial Management service minimum entry level is at the 600 thousand dollar threshold.
    His most recent performance data seems to align well with your personal observations. So too does his incremental, slow moving decision-making approach. Jim Stack is definitely not a suitable advisor for a day trader, or even for a short-term market participant.
    Given your 2-year experience with his newsletter service, do you plan to renew your subscription when it expires?
    Once again, thank you for your meaningful submittal. It added an ingredient that is missing from my posts on this matter: actual experience with the Stack organization and product line.
    Best wishes.
  • Sell in May, Except in Election Year
    Hi Guys,
    Thanks for participating in this discussion.
    Understand that the singular purpose of my posting was to alert MFO members to significant statistical perturbations that exist for the Sell-in-May rule of thumb. None of these rules hold for all times and all circumstances.
    The major perturbation introduced by Jim Stack’s research focused on the Presidential four-year election cycle. Given our present position in that cycle, I deemed that the Stack research was immediately appropriate, especially given the second quarter market reversal currently in progress.
    My goal was to assuage panic fears which quickly gravitate, like the herd mentality, to extreme values. I did not intend to carry water for either Jim Stack or his financial enterprises. He is very successful at doing that for himself. Over the years he has received numerous awards from investment rating agencies such as Forbes and Barron’s weekly.
    For the record, I do not subscribe to his newsletter service and do not invest with the Stack Financial Management service. I have attended about 15 of his presentations that are always carefully crafted and filled with statistical study results. I freely admit that I find that style of presentation attractive given my training, my experience, and my investment proclivities.
    But my posting was not directed at selling Jim Stack; my objective was to emphasize his conclusions. My constant reference to Stack was to properly recognize his work. Allow me to stress once again since some of you missed my main goal: Stack is the source of the study. I do not necessarily endorse his fund management prowess.
    Since you asked, Jim Stack publishes an investment letter, heads an investment management operation, lectures, and has appeared on countless media shows such as Wall Street Week and CNBC. He has been active in this field for over three decades. His newsletters contain specific portfolio recommendations that incorporate mutual fund, ETF and stock holdings.
    Here is a Link to his financial management service:
    http://www.stackfinancialmanagement.com/
    Remember, I use his research and not his management acumen. I am a totally independent private investor; I have money placements across the entire United States to achieve even geographic diversification.
    Like myself, Jim Stack adheres to an incremental philosophy when making investment decisions. I doubt that he remains 100 % equity invested for very long, and I know that even when the majority of his indicators are flashing red he retains a portion of his portfolio in stocks (maybe like 20 %). As his indicators gather momentum in either direction, he shifts the weight of his holdings to reflect these dynamic market signals.
    I suspect we all do something similar, making adjustments in response to a changing economic, political, and market environment. As a consequence of this approach, James Stack usually scores best on a risk-adjusted basis.
    I hope this clarifies.
    Best Wishes.
  • Sell in May, Except in Election Year
    Hi Guys,
    I recently posted my summation of the mid-May MoneyShow held in Las Vegas. Within that summary, I reported that InvesTech chief James Stack finds little evidence that a significant equity market downturn is eminent. One of the primary drivers that informed Stack’s assessment is the four-year Presidential election market returns cycle.
    Jim Stack is an engineer by formal training, and his research is unbiased, comprehensive, reliable, and, therefore, trustworthy. One issue I might raise with his analyses is that he assembles too many market direction indicators. But, too much is better than too few since it allows the client or analyst to make choices.
    Since I was providing an overview of the Las Vegas event, I did not elaborate to support my brief recognition of Stack’s current forecast. Given the present market turmoil and downswing, perhaps a more complete description of Jim Stack’s analysis is appropriate for this forum.
    Here it is. This is my interpretation of Stack’s market forecast position. I extracted all the data mentioned here from the May 11 issue of the InvesTech Research newsletter that was distributed at the Las Vegas meeting.
    In general, Stack endorses the finding that most market rewards are realized in the November through April timeframe. In fact, he even acknowledges that some financial media might modify the “Sell in May, and walk away” axiom to “Panic in May and run”. Stack does not subscribe to that extreme vision.
    He notes that the market reward cycle is a tale of two seasons. Since 1960, if an investor was only in the equity marketplace (the S&P 500 Index as a proxy) within the doldrums period (May through October), he merely doubled his wealth. However, if that same investor only committed his resources in the high rewards phase (November through April), he increased his wealth by almost 50-fold.
    Such is the power of the sell-in-May rule. But the devil is always in the details, so be especially aware of those nasty details.
    The Presidential four-year election cycle distorts this overarching trend. Stack has assembled election cycle data beginning in 1928; that subset of data shows a remarkable shift in the S&P 500 monthly returns, especially for the time span from May through election day. Since 1928 this electioneering period generated an average 5.3 % positive return. In this 21 year data set, negative returns were registered on only 4 occasions. This limited data suggests an 81 percent likelihood of a positive market outcome through election day. I like those odds.
    Stack also presented a statistical average bar chart of quarterly returns in a year-by-year Presidential cycle format. He highlighted the year Four segment of that chart. That’s where we are today. That chart, which is historically based, clearly shows a negative return for the quarterly period just ending, and an exciting positive incremental gain for the segment into election day. Let’s hope this seasonal pattern for the Presidential cycle repeats itself.
    Jim Stack reinforces his current positive market perspective with a plethora of other macro-level signals that are basically positive at this juncture. The bear market warning flags that he monitors includes items like investor optimism, the Fed yield spread probability model, the Conference Board’s US Leading Economic Index, market breath statistics, and his own proprietary Bellwether Index which is composed of stocks from economically sensitive areas.
    Some of his macroeconomic indicators are approaching critical regions, but none have penetrated into the red flag zone. So continuing vigilance is necessary. Stack makes portfolio investment decisions in an incremental fashion. He moves cautiously, and adheres to a preponderance of evidence policy.
    So do I; that’s probably why I admire his work and his investment discipline. My comments are totally based on Jim Stack’s research. He deserves full credit for his efforts; if errors were made in my interpretation, they belong solely to me.
    I hope you agree with my assessment, but more importantly, I hope you can benefit from my representation of Jim Stack’s careful work and honest work ethic.
    By all means, I encourage and welcome your comments. Please participate actively.
    Best Regards.
  • Summarizing the Las Vegas MoneyShow
    Hi Guys,
    I just returned from a self-imposed four-day, concentrated investment barrage at the annual Las Vegas MoneyShow. The event organizers, Kim and Charles Githler, do a remarkable job balancing the disparate purposes, goals, and agendas of the presenters and the attendees.
    I find the exposure to such a wide universe of investment alternatives and players, both professional and amateur, educational and exciting. The conference is a great occasion to study all participants. It affords an opportunity to talk eyeball-to-eyeball with the human machinery that keeps the marketplace vibrant from both the seller and buyer vantage point.
    Sellers and buyers were all accessible. I discussed matters with attendees from Alaska, Maine, Texas, Florida, and Wisconsin, essentially from the four-corners of the United States.
    All the participants shared at least one widespread perspective: the upcoming national election outcomes are crucial to a more robust market recovery. The commonly expressed viewpoint was 100 % consistent regarding the significance of the November event. I have never experienced such an overwhelming and coherent perspective. This suggests that the early inventors of the economics discipline had it right when they originally called their emerging science “political economics”.
    It is somewhat puzzling that numerous presenters openly volunteered the poor forecasting track record that burdens the market gurus overall.
    Mark Hulbert, from the MarketWatch website and the Hulbert Financial Digest, generously conceded that 80 % of the roughly 200 investment newsletters that he monitors and constructs portfolios from their recommendations, fail to achieve market returns This conclusion is consistent with similar findings reported from a host of other investment group and entity studies: experts do not statistically produce excess returns.
    Hulbert speculated on the inconsistent performance from these self-proclaimed market prognosticators. Even the giants in this hazardous industry suffer major meltdowns. On an individual level, James Dimon and J. P. Morgan Chase’s recent bond debacle, and Warren Buffett’s underperformance for the last three years, were used to illustrate the fragility of even the most respected market wizards.
    The markets are a dangerous place even for the well informed, the well positioned, and the deep-pocketed players. As Daniel Kahneman observed in “Thinking, Fast and Slow”, overconfidence takes its costly toll.
    At an alumni breakfast, an overarching theme of economist Mark Skousen’s talk was to caution his audience not to overreact to sharp presentations that lured customers with exaggerated reward promises.
    Mining and Oil exploratory firms were heavily represented as event sponsors and exhibitors. They proffered wildcat drilling options for as “little” as 25 thousand dollars per share per hole. One such project was located in Kansas. I guess for a long time now Kansas has been identified as a place for uncertain adventures associated with jumping down a rabbit hole.
    In their defense, these high risk firms did honestly discuss the uncertainties coupled to dry holes. So they advised that at least 4 sites should be purchased for risk diversification purposes. That’s costly risk insurance. This is an illustration of the kind of investment that Mark Skausen was obliquely referencing.
    Also, I suspect (my interpretation) that Skausen was circuitously warning of the endless array of technical tool kits being sold throughout the conference. These tools are complex, have countless interactive options, feature colorful displays, and deploy sophisticated statistical analyses techniques supported by extensive historical databases. These are data rich and attractive products. They are also costly. Lectures on these computer tools were particularly well attended. It is not clear if the simulation promises can be delivered in the real world.
    For example, CycleProfit’s Michael Turner held a session that advocated a very short-term covered calls option strategy that “potentially” could generate an income stream of about 20 % per year. The backbone for the strategy is the eloquent and complex statistical methods that Turner developed for his time-cycle forecasts.
    Fundamentally, his database is constructed from historical daily price movements massaged in a very sophisticated timeframe manner. He freely acknowledges that his projection one year away will require frequent revision, but he concurrently claims that his 60 to 90 day forecasted movements are highly reliable. He has anecdotal support from a few users. But an independent scientific systematic study has not been completed to challenge his assertion. He could be right; he could be wrong. So, buyer beware.
    The term “Guarded Optimism” can function as a general summation of the numerous presentations that addressed global economic and market trendlines. Almost all presenters identified at least a few muted profitable equity ventures. Even Bear market protagonists such as Martin Pring highlighted limited upside potential using a shorter cycle business timeline model.
    Bonds were generically assessed as bad investments given the current political, economical, and financial environment. However, I did not attend any of the forums specifically dedicated to the bond world.
    Sam Stovall further documented the sell-in-May calendar effect, but proposed an enhancement strategy approach that featured a sell the S&P 500 in May baseline, but a stay in equities with a summer sector rotation into consumer staples and healthcare tactic addition.
    A representative from James Stack’s InvesTech operation out of Whitefish, Montana reported that the preponderance of Stack’s 50-odd market direction signals remain bullish. The conservative, safety-first Jim Stack sees no significant market downturn as the November election cycle approaches.
    At the international level, the meeting consensus implied that US problems and issues were far more manageable than the foreign versions of the same problem set. The international wizards assessments were grounded on our accumulated national wealth and our flexible, entrepreneurial capitalistic framework. Our global experts were much more worried over the future prospects of France, and, surprisingly from my limited understanding, the longer haul projections for both China and India. These meta-trend experts greatly fear the uncertain and interactive couplings between politics and economics in these surging nations.
    I always enjoy my visits to the Las Vegas edition of the MoneyShow. The organizers reported over 8,000 pre-registrations this year, down about 20 % from the record high noted two years ago. Times are tough for both sponsors and attendees alike. The event educational seminars were not as prolific as in previous years. Too bad, but still worth the effort to participate. You get the chance to exchange ideas with both winners and losers in the financial community. It’s a great learning opportunity.
    I encourage you to consider attending one of these extravaganzas. Within the next few months upcoming MoneyShows will be convened in San Francisco and Chicago. Internationally, events will be conducted in Toronto, Shanghai, and London. When attending, I suggest you keep your hand away from your wallet when participating in sessions with so many highly polished and accomplished presenters.
    You must resist urges to act quickly. Once again, it is prudent to engage in both fast and slow thinking.
    Best Regards.
  • Your best dividend growth fund over past 3+ years
    Not a high-dividend fund but a high quality-dividend growth focused fund that can offer higher dividend growth versus higher yield.....is VIG. VIG is packed with a high concentration of wide-moat companies.
    M* assessment on VIG:
    "In mid-November, when Warren Buffett revealed that Berkshire Hathaway had taken a massive 5.4% stake in IBM , Vanguard Dividend Appreciation ETF held four of its top five holdings in common with him. This was no fluke. VIG focuses on quality dividends, demanding that companies increase them for 10 consecutive years just to make the cut. It then imposes further tests for liquidity and financial strength. The exact formula is secret but seems to weed out companies with high leverage and poor cash flow. The result is quality rather than high yield, so income-hungry investors might be surprised by a dividend yield that just matches the market. Whereas many dividend-focused funds concentrate in smaller value companies, this fund shades slightly toward growth. While we like dividends (more on that later), we think the fund's emphasis on safer yields justifies its average yield. VIG is a great choice for a core allocation."
  • Funds food chain & what the sharks ate first.....and this phase
    Howdy,
    Unfortunately, I was away from the pc from noon until now, 5pm; and could not unload any funds.
    I will review tonight and anticipate selling more of our holdings tomorrow if there is not some magical financial event overnight or tomorrow.
    ---The fund eating sharks and the pathway to date:
    Begining the first week of March found weakness in the commodity sector. We sold most of our FSAGX and all of our FFGCX holding on March 6. Other equity and bond areas kinda cruised along for about one month; which found the signs of weakness again in Europe.
    Next in line during April found weakness in the EM equity sectors, which continues today. In late April and early May found weakness in EM bonds. We sold 1/2 of TEGBX and the majority of FNMIX a few days ago. The EM bond sectors have more downside today.
    Obviously, during this past 4-6 weeks has found problems with many global equity sectors, and so far this week has found about a 50% larger downside in Europe versus the U.S. No to be outdone, Asia had a fun time yesterday and may have another find time coming; while most of us here are asleep.
    Adding to the pile today; although not having been problematic over the past few weeks finds HYG and JNK taking the hammer today, with both just slightly better than a -1%.
    A consistant and somewhat of a pattern has been taking place and continues to chew through the risk off mode and is now pushing upon the credit quality of bonds. This is not surprising in light of changes that began in early April.
    Will another QE program here, or opening very big money doors in Europe cause an early summer equity rally? I sure don't know, but if such an event took place; I would suspect it would only be a game played among the big trading houses.
    The only U.S. equity sectors at this point in the late afternoon that were kinda happy: utilities (flat), health care (slightly up) and consumer staples (slightly up). If the market sells down through the summer, I am not sure these areas of equity would offer any comfort.
    Tomorrow, if nothing changes; will find a major shuffle of our portfolio. Surprise, surprise......the monies will likely travel to bonds of the non-HY/HI type. Wishing I was home today, to have begun the move.
    Perhaps we may escape the week with less than a 1% down.
    Wishing all well with the investments.
    Regards,
    Catch
  • Time To Close Bond Funds For Investors' Own Good ?
    Reply to @scott: I agree with most of what you've said; my comments were mainly about the "trade in your low-yielding bonds for dividend stocks" meme that is expressed somewhere in the financial media nearly every single day.
    However, I do have to say the hyperinflation-now talk from a few select sources is totally divorced from reality. We're in a liquidity trap, with high unemployment, low and stagnant real wages, and deficient demand, all of which puts us closer to current day Japan than, say, post-WW I Germany.
  • Overrating Stock Pickers
    Hi Guys,
    In its May 10, edition, the WSJ honored great stock analysts on an annual basis. The Journal prepared and published an extensive series of articles that featured a listing of the three top master stock pickers in 44 sub-sector equity categories.
    These top performers were granted Olympic-like status, similar to the newly minted gold, silver, and bronze metals now awarded by Morningstar in their second ranking formulation. This second Morningstar scoring procedure is purportedly forward looking in character, and supposedly contrasts with its famous “star” system which is fully rear-mirror looking by design.
    The WSJ rankings share the same attribute as the Morningstar Star system. The Star formula has revealed its mutual fund selection shortcomings over time. How useful is the WSJ assessments with respect to individual stock picks?
    On an individual stock picker basis, the WSJ listings show impressive results for the few category winners. But this is using hindsight bias; the champions for 2011 clearly established their superior records for that calendar year. But could the Journal identify these potential winners before the record was accumulated and evaluated? How persistent is performance over time? An overarching question is how skilful are the stock picker elite as a group? Do they really benefit their clients as a total?
    All stock analysts hired by financial firms are smart folks. They have great educations, super support staff, considerable on-the-job experience, and are highly motivated by personal pride, institutional recognition, and financial incentives. If anyone can successfully project future stock price movements, these guys should be the chosen ones.
    Intelligence, training and experience do matter. But the impact of these positive factors are muted if the price movements are chaotic by nature because of unknowable exogenous events and by internal complex feedback loops that are not modeled, perhaps not even recognized. The problem is further aggravated by irrational and inconsistent public behavioral responses. Investors reactions change remarkably when confronted with identical decision scenarios. Patterns get distorted over even short timeframes.
    Additionally, as Nassim Taleb and Daniel Kahneman observed in their respective “Black Swan” and “Thinking, Fast and Slow” books, luck is a key element in investment outcomes.
    Therefore, it is not shocking to discover that, although winners always exist in the stock selection marketplace, that same space also includes a substantial number of losers. The WSJ metal awards do not address the other end of this results spectrum.
    But I do. Here’s how.
    Besides showing the three superior stock pickers for each of the 44 sub-sector equity categories, the Journal also provides the class median performance for each of these categories. I used that data to complete a simple statistical analysis that yields an overall assessment of the entire host of stock analysts who were included in the contest.
    The WSJ scoring system is a little complicated so I have appended a Link to the Journal article that addresses the scoring methodology. It follows immediately:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303404704577307901542943884.html?mod=WSJ_Investing_MoreHeadlines
    In general, a positive score means that the stock pickers generated a net positive return for investors following their recommendations. Prescient sell signals were also incorporated into the evaluation by reversing the sign on the returns. The higher the net analyst score, the higher the likely client wealth enrichment potential. Note that many individual analyst and category scores were negative for the year, a wealth depleting likelihood.
    My simple analysis did not incorporate any weighting factors to adjust for the very disparate expert numbers who populated the various sectors. That refinement would improve the analysis but requires additional work. Given that I’m a bit lazy and out of training after two decades of retirement, I punted on that task. Perhaps a more energetic MFO participant can carry that ball across the goal line.
    Unfortunately, you must subscribe to the Journal to gain access to the overarching article titled “What Makes a Great Stock Analyst?” . Sorry about that. Perhaps you can identify an indirect avenue to secure access.
    My simple global statistical assessment shows that the analysts as a complete cohort did not add wealth for their clients. All of us have been exposed to similar findings for active mutual fund management. Market experts and pundits promise much, but frequently deliver little.
    The mean net return (gains minus losses) for adhering to the analysts’ recommendations was -1.11 units for 2011. Performance variability (standard deviation) was an unattractive 10.31 units. The maximum gain was 16.07, but the maximum underperformance was -23.33. Only 21 out of 44 category groupings (47.7 %) produced positive rewards. These results are disappointing given the talent and resources committed to uncovering attractive stock possibilities. Once again, luck seems to be a dominant factor.
    Overall, the WSJ awarded 132 (3 X 44) metals. The awards were scattered among 66 institutional and research firms. Goldman Sacks collected the most metals, 9 out of 63 analysts who qualified from Goldman for the competition. From a research corporate perspective, Morningstar came in third place with 6 metals from a recognized 63 entries.
    That concludes a summary of my crude statistical analysis of the WSJ survey. Now some interpretation.
    All analysis must be placed in a context framework. How tough was the equity marketplace for the stock picking army? Was there major tailwinds or headwinds? With the benefit of perfect hindsight, it was a mixed bag. In the US, this is appropriately measured by the mixed Index returns for 2011. The S&P 500 returned 2.1 %, the Wilshire 5000 delivered 0.6 % on the positive side of the ledger. The NASD composite absorbed -0.8 % while the Russell 2000 eroded -4.2 % of wealth on the negative side. The recorded returns demonstrated that the marketplace was not easy pickings during the previous year. Perhaps that was anticipated by customers and encouraged them to more fully implement expert advice. Of course, that’s speculative on my part.
    However, remember that the WSJ challenge was focused solely on a stock pickers ability to select specific stocks, not overall market behavior. His stock instincts and intuitions were being tested to determine his skill set in that arena alone. He was credited with a positive score both if his buy picks delivered profits and if his sell signals were properly aligned with subsequent performance. The WSJ constructed a fair test to gage stock picking acumen. They formulated a valid scoring method independent of the broad market direction.
    Even with my incomplete statistical analysis, we are now in a better position to answer one of the original questions posited earlier: Do stock picking gurus globally reward their clients? My answer is “No”. Some do, but slightly more do not.
    This analysis did not consider the costs associated with their task. That cost is a lot of money out of the pockets of the customers and into the deep pockets of the star pickers and especially into the coffers of their resident firms. That’s yet another drag on customers who often underperform annual market returns.
    The WSJ’s series honoring star stock pickers is misleading since it highlights the winners but mostly ignores those pickers who subtracted from their client’s wealth. The rating and ranking game is a double-edged sword that demands a broad statistical interpretation that is frequently omitted when promoting an agenda. In his book, Daniel Kahneman described it as WYSIATI (what you see is all there is). The WSJ articles perpetuate this tendency to only deploy the intuitive portion of the brain when making investment decisions while ignoring statistical data that establishes a base rate to make a more informed decision.
    So, I am under-whelmed by these findings as presented. Expert knowledge has its limitations, especially in a complex, chaotic environment with few consistent investment rules that survive time, and an unruly, emotional investing public. My analysis morphs the buyer beware bromide into a reader beware context.
    What do you think?
    Best Regards.
  • Utility funds, JPM, credit quality, Dec. 21, 2012 ???
    Howdy,
    Way past my bedtime..........but, I have been watching the equity markets like most folks and the maybe sell in May thingy. When broad equity markets bit the bullet in 2010 and 2011 going into the summer months; some sectors have had a slightly different path.........consumer staples, health related area and utility funds.
    Consumer staples are just kinda hanging around without much action. Some medical/health sectors have maintained during the recent equity sell. In particular, I have been watching the plain jane utility area, too.
    There were very narrow upward moves the past few days in the utility area and then settle back. I ran a fast page scroll tonight of utility funds (100 or so) and found the + range to be from .6 through 1.1% for today. I understand that some of these funds have some exposure to the natural gas move; but I don't feel this really has much to do with the moves in the utility sector today.
    As we use Fidelity for some of our monies, this is my first quick look at their funds. FSEUX, is mostly a plain jane equity utility companies fund; but was up 1.1% today; having been pretty much flat for this year.
    The question being then, why were utility funds so strong today. What say you???
    ---JPM and Mr. Dimon, per Scott's post and a few later articles I have read. Perhaps this was a public announce to be sure other financial institutions indeed know more about the game and please let us play nice. I do believe I will have to return the next Chase Bank credit card apply back with a personal note of "bite me".
    To all of this continuing ego-manical actions by the big kids in the house; although never really missing, serfdom is alive and well. The wee folks just happen to not be working in the potato patch; but in other areas being affected.
    'Course, this may be for not and be meaningless to the whole big, stinking picture.
    Past this, I will have to assume the "Thumper rule" of "If I can't say anything nice, I won't say anything at all."
    ---JPM's "Whale" playing in London (noted last month) will cause me to watch any impact, in particular, of actions with credit quality issues, such as the junk bond sector, as he was fiddling in this area, too. Note: Asian markets, as of 11:30pm are not crashing and burning.........UPDATE, midnight. Asian markets were down about .5%; but trending much lower right now.
    ___12-21-12............The Mayan. Perhaps, I don't need to be concerned with the cranial/rectals playing leadership at the big banks, eh?
    Thank you in advance for thoughts about the utility sector.
    Lights out here................
    Take care,
    Catch
  • Tis not 2007/2008, but.....
    Reply to @Old_Joe: I'd agree with that, and I think the more I have CNBC on in the background and the more I hear, "WHY ISN'T THE RETAIL INVESTOR PARTICIPATING OMG!", the more I agree with that. They don't get why people are upset, they don't get why many retail investors have lost trust and the anchors stare blankly when they are told that some retail investors would honestly rather go to Vegas than put money in the market and trust Vegas more. They also - as you said - don't get the reality many people are facing.
    Either they don't get it, or - and Jim Rogers said it - CNBC is primarily a PR firm for the market. (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/jim-rogers-calls-cnbc-market-pr-agency-whose-sole-purpose-make-stocks-go-higher) CNBC just said people's anger at banks was "unfocused" and disorganized and are whining about the occupy movement and how they don't "get it." "I know people are frustrated, but why take it out on the financial services industry?" lol.
    Meanwhile, CNBC is facing its lowest ratings in many years.
    I think there are exciting companies that I want to be involved in, especially in the developing world. People aren't going to be pulled into risk again, and those hitting retirement age are going to value capital preservation over appreciation and it wouldn't stun me if you see continued movement into fixed income. That's not to say that people shouldn't invest in stocks, but I do think people have to keep expectations in check and the volatility is going to continue to cause people to exit.
    I do think that the emerging consumer has the potential to do better over time, and that's part of the reason why you're seeing moves like you are in some of the Brazil consumer names (AMBev) and Mexico's FEMSA and elsewhere. That'll be a bumpy ride, but the emerging consumer - I think - remains a potentially very good long-term theme (ECON etf is a broad way to play.)