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My commentary (middle block of quotes above) was a distraction about the inflation adjustment. The key point I was making was one does not withdraw 4.0% each year.The inflation rate is critical in the calculation when future value or purchase power declines every year. For now the assumption is 2% annual inflation. Can you imagine it gets larger in the future? An amount of $1M is not likely to last 30 years.Thus the return rate must be higher than 0.1% (4.1%- 4.0%) and that may not be easily accomplished every year.Or worse, 4% of the balance plus an additional 2% of the balance purportedly to "adjust" for inflation.
So a nominal rate of return of 6% or better means that the portfolio will last forever.The break-even point for portfolios with real withdrawals is the sum of 1) the withdrawal rate [4%] and 2) the inflation rate [2%]. In this portfolio’s case, that means 6%. That conclusion seems trite. But it did not strike me as obvious when I first approached the topic.
Thus the return rate must be higher than 0.1% (4.1%- 4.0%) and that may not be easily accomplished every year.Or worse, 4% of the balance plus an additional 2% of the balance purportedly to "adjust" for inflation.
He also cites a recent interview with Bengen that answers @davidrmoran's question:Michael [Kitces]: And so, what do you think about as the number in the environment today?
Bill [Bengen]: I think somewhere in 4.75%, 5% is probably going to be okay. We won’t know for 30 years, so I can safely say that in an interview.
You're paying the same rate, say 3%, on the amount of the loan outstanding each month. What is happening is that as you make your monthly payment, you're reducing the outstanding balance - part of your monthly payment goes toward paying down the loan. The rest of the payment is the 3% interest on the outstanding balance.If I understand it correctly, when the mortgage is new, then the mortgage payments are mostly interest. But if this is a fixed rate 30 years old mortgage, and only few years left to pay it out, then most of the monthly payment are for the principal. In other words, the effective interest you pay is maximal at the beginning and it is getting smaller and smaller at the end. Therefore it may be less advantageous to refinance during the last few years. A more detailed calculations is required, what I said is just a guess.
If the interest is deductible, then paying it off is equivalent to putting the money in the bank at that same rate of interest. For example, if your interest rate is 4% and your tax rate is 25%, then you're really paying only 3% (3/4 of 4%) after counting the value of the deduction. That's the same after tax return you get from a 4% bank account, once you subtract the taxes.One other point. Is interest payments still tax deductible ?
If you ONLY CARE about numbers for inflation, you might stop saying that your number is $876K. Adjusted for inflation, it is $543K, which amounts to a 2.64%/year loss in real value over 22.81 years.Both are close...Mine=$876K...yours=$847K.
I ONLY CARE about numbers adjusted for inflation.
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