A New Retirement-Income Option for IRAs At Fidelity With regard to using Roth IRA dollars for longevity risk Julian commented at the end the kitces article with this:
"I agree with you that there are better hedges for old age than longevity annuities. In a Roth IRA or non-retirement account, one option is to purchase U.S. Treasury STRIPS that mature at perhaps 80 or 85 years of age and at maturity time, buy an immediate life annuity with the proceeds. This has several advantages over a longevity annuity purchased years or even decades in advance: (1) the bonds can be cashed out prior to maturity and may be worth considerably more than their cost if held for many years, (2) the counter party risk (i.e., of an insurance company going insolvent) is eliminated, (3) not all -- or any -- of the maturing bond proceeds have to be committed to the immediate annuity, and (4) if one spouse dies -- or has significantly impaired health -- prior to purchase of the immediate annuity, the immediate annuity can be written for larger annual payouts than would be possible with a longevity annuity (e.g., written as a single life annuity or an impaired life annuity). By my calculations, if I purchase the STRIPS around age 60, then after about age 80-85, the IRR with this method is about 50 bp less than with a longevity annuity. However, this seems like a small price to pay for the advantages and flexibility outlined above."
A New Retirement-Income Option for IRAs At Fidelity
Hopefully a QLAC calculator will answer this question soon.
Yep - good questions bee. I'm assuming you looked at the Fidelity calculator msf already linked. It does allow you to set the time you start receiving funds (but assumes an immediate investment). Probably doesn't go far enough to answer your question.
If I wanted to dig deeper today (I don't) I'd just take one of the readily available compound interest calculators and run some hypothetical amounts on my own over the same time periods comparing the to how I'd fare with the annuity. What the annuity offers is a degree of certainty on payout - while the markets can go anywhere over shorter terms. Also, that you won't outlive your income stream. But - Yikes, at 85 how many good
years will most of us have left to pursue our interests?
My problem is that I have converted enough to Roths where more than half of retirement funds are now exempt from RMD. So, RMD isn't going to impact me much. I'm already taking out each year more than the required RMD amount would be on the non-Roth investments. But, I wouldn't mind sinking a relatively small amount into one of these products.
Sorry I can't answer your questions.
Market Bloodbath Not a bloodbath yet.
But what I find amazing is the contrast in the 3 & 5 year returns for (diversified) large-cap equity funds in general and those funds focused on raw materials/energy. It's a stark contrast with the first group showing 10%, 15%, and even 20% annualized gains over 3 & 5 years, and the second group essentially flat or negative over that same period.
Doesn't make sense to me considering that to a degree the two groups are interconnected economically. (You don't buy a car and than not put fuel in it or drive it - or drive only on unpaved roadways. And few houses today are built of mud and grass and heated with solar.) Point I'm awkwardly trying to make is that the products which drive earnings for large cap stocks rely to an extent on the use of energy, metals, lumber, cement, etc. for their production and continued operation.
Either one group of stocks appears to be way overvalued - or the other way undervalued.
King Of Bonds’ Gundlach: No Great Case For Higher Rates We will have a low interest rate environment for 5-8 years more.
In about 10 years we will have a VAT to deal with gov't deficits and interest on the debt which will keep interest rates low.
I'd say the only thing what will have large pricing power is apartment rent, homes. retail space in densely populated, health care and necessities such as gas, electric, food.
I hope you're wrong on the VAT, but you're probably not. It would not surprise me if we have a low interest rate environment for nearly another decade, but I sort of question whether that can be managed without something becoming disorderly.
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fully, fully agree with you on the pricing power statement. In terms of retail space, I kinda ponder warehouse space given continued rise of online shopping vs B & M, but high quality retail in dense areas is fine.
King Of Bonds’ Gundlach: No Great Case For Higher Rates We will have a low interest rate environment for 5-8 years more.
In about 10 years we will have a VAT to deal with gov't deficits and interest on the debt which will keep interest rates low.
I'd say the only thing what will have large pricing power is apartment rent, homes. retail space in densely populated, health care and necessities such as gas, electric, food.
Monica Lewinsky Will Address Financial Advisors I'll be darned- it's a real word, sort-of. I made that up years ago in a discussion with my wife regarding certain feminine characteristics. She was not amused.
One thing about that word always kind of bothered me.. it isn't immediately obvious whether it refers to a female bozo, or just a diminutive male bozo. But here in SF such gender descriptive terminology is pretty much off-limits anyway. We must be the PC capitol of the universe. I don't fit well here, as I'm constantly reminded. Not sure where I'd fit all that well, for that matter.
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Investors Trimming Bets On September Interest Rate Hike This.
"A Taylor-rule central banker may be convinced that lowering the central bank's nominal interest rate target will increase inflation.
This can lead to a situation in which the central banker becomes permanently trapped in ZIRP. With the nominal interest rate at zero for a long period of time, inflation is low, and the central banker reasons that maintaining ZIRP will eventually increase the inflation rate. But this never happens and, as long as the central banker adheres to a sufficiently aggressive Taylor rule, ZIRP will continue forever, and the central bank will fall short of its inflation target indefinitely. This idea seems to fit nicely with the recent observed behavior of the world's central banks."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/after-6-years-qe-and-45-trillion-balance-sheet-st-louis-fed-admits-qe-was-mistakeIf they raise (say 50 basis points) only to drop it again, that to me is almost worse.