Vanguard created big tax bills for target-date fund investors, lawsuit claims Here's a good video explaining the lawsuit:

and the actual complaint (courtesy of that video):
https://www.classaction.org/media/verduce-et-al-v-vanguard-chester-funds-et-al.pdfWhat I was saying above about the actual damages not being as large as claimed is covered in the video starting about
17:
15.
I agree with the video that win or lose, this is a big PR problem for Vanguard. In essence because its defense will likely be in part that on balance, investors were helped - it's just that the institutions (40
1(k) plans) were helped at the expense of the little guys (retail investors).
Though that framing isn't exactly objective because who invests in 40
1(k) plans? Not just CEOs but line workers (and
CEOs have private plans that are much more lucrative). Still, it will be difficult for Vanguard to manage what this looks like.
The complaint seems to be asserting that Vanguard (or any fiduciary) cannot disadvantage anyone even if the overall effect is positive. IMHO that's a losing argument.
Suppose the situation were somewhat reversed, if instead of supposedly helping the institutions at the expense of the little guy, Vanguard had made a change that significantly helped the little guy while dinging the institutions. Would people be complaining? Yet the same argument would apply.
Have you ever wondered? Ever wonder what it would be like to live in a world where being secure in your old age wasn’t dependent on complete randomness and luck? Linking retirement to the stock market is a bit like linking it to a roulette wheel.
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1. MOST people can't even dream of having the sort of modest portfolio I've got. And it's not even my doing: I INHERITED the biggest slice. The rest has been my own decisions about what to do with it all, yes. My in-laws in that shit-hole country overseas go hand-to-mouth. How poor ARE they? When we send boxes of stuff, it includes LAUNDRY DETERGENT. Anyone who needs THAT sent to them is in a bad way. Just like everywhere else, they can't get out of their own way politically----- allowing for corrupt assholes to run the country. And part of that picture is the CULTURE, too. As long as things just don't move without a bit of bribery here and a bit of bribery there, nothing will ever change. To say nothing of the fact that (very much like HERE) very few have an inkling about how to grow their money and invest.
Tough Day in Bond Land Tiny ETF PVI is run like an ultra-short muni, so may be a cash-proxy. Nominal yield is 0%, 30-day SEC yield is negative, 52-wk range 24.81-24.94.
Hold On or Move On @Starchild : “I posted a pissed off thread about MGGPX recently, but held on. Good thing I did.” < — you are saying that you are glad you held on to MGGPX?
It’s down
18% YTD, may I ask why? Asking as I still own some and am wondering why.
U.S. inflation rate climbs again to 7.9%, CPI shows / MarketWatch Article Ball don't lie...let's stick to reality and not libereral advocacy econo-babble shall we?
"But lest you doubt that Biden, not Putin, is to blame for the pain at the pump, at used-car lots, at grocery stores, and everywhere else these days, we present four charts below that make it clear that price spirals started long before Russia’s troops moved into Ukraine – and in fact began to accelerate right at the time Biden was signing his “American Rescue Plan” into law."
"Take a look and judge for yourself whether Biden is being honest about why inflation, which hasn’t been a problem in four decades, is suddenly reaching into Carter-era heights – just as economists such as Summers predicted."
Stunning how the impact of this administration's poor decisions have impacted many Americans.
Kind Regards,
Baseball Fan
https://issuesinsights.com/2022/03/17/four-charts-prove-biden-is-lying-about-putin-and-inflation/
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Wealthtrack - Weekly Investment Show +1.
Short and distort - the inverse of pump and dump If I’m considering buying something (especially a stock) I don’t mention it. After I’ve owned it a while I might. I mention this only because it makes so damned much sense. Why would anyone (particularly a fund manager) announce to the whole world that he “might be interested” in picking up a particular asset? If anything, it might drive the price up before he buys. Afterwards it’s likely a non-issue.
I realize my meager buys or sells won’t affect markets. Yet, it just seems like common sense to buy first before saying anything. I think a lot of “talking-up” of certain stocks or sectors goes on on
Tout TV by all those “guests.” What good does it do you or me to buy something a fund manager bought a couple months earlier before the price rose
15 or 20%? While I personally think Bill Gross gets dumped on too much, I always thought his frequent stints on CNBC to be a bit disingenuous. Seemed me he’d predict bonds or interest rates to move in exactly
opposite the direction he really believed. This allowed him to take the positions he wanted more cheaply after the herd leaned the other way based on his statements.
“Through the Retail Lens” A new tool from JPMorgan allows Wall Street firms to keep an eye on what retail traders are doing, according to a Thursday report from Bloomberg.
The bank's "Through the Retail Lens" tool launched in September and is now being used by about 30 asset and quant fund managers, Bloomberg reported. The new tool shows retail flows, predicts the next "short-squeeze," and combs through Reddit and Twitter to determine retail traders' sentiment on a stock, the report said.
A bank representative did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment. JPMorgan told Bloomberg that without a keen eye on retail, investors may feel like they're "driving partially blind." Source
How often do you rebalance?
How often do you rebalance? @Sven,
I use X-Ray via
M* Investment Research Center ¹ provided by my local library.
I'm able to save X-Ray results and don't have any M* subscriptions.
¹ Also allows free access to FundInvestor, ETFInvestor, StockInvestor, and DividendInvestor newsletters.
U.S. inflation rate climbs again to 7.9%, CPI shows / MarketWatch Article
How often do you rebalance? @Devo, would you please link your previous article on drawdown? I seem to difficulty locating it.
@Obserant1, are you subscribing to M* in order to have access to their X-ray tool ? T. Rowe Price is now enable this tool when the investors reach certain level, and I do not qualify that at this moment.
Wealthtrack - Weekly Investment Show Basically, yes. Banks can raise lending rates and regional banks benefit from higher mortgage rates in today’s housing market.
Two ETFs were mentioned by Ms. Mack on energy: Energy Select Sector SPDR, XLE and Vanguard Energy, VDE.
Energy is the best performing sector this year. The above ETFs are volatile as well.
The other interview from Jeffery Schulze is also quite informative on inflation when he compares Fed chairman Powell to Volker. Schulze doesn’t see a rate hike-induced recession based on the 12 economic indicators that Clear Bridge uses.
Vanguard created big tax bills for target-date fund investors, lawsuit claims Thanks @ Derf, I didn't even know there was an option for the average investor to redeem MF into appreciated shares. Can an average investor do this?
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@Devo : If you reached your limit on articles , then try here ::
https://www.investopedia.com/how-vanguard-patented-a-system-to-avoid-taxes-in-mutual-funds-4686985So with that read, should or could the "average" investor try to do the trade of MF's to appreciated stock while doing a redemption ? A step up in bias sounds good to me if the proceeds are to be passed on ! Granted the stock could go down in price before one gets to pass it on.
How often do you rebalance? My MFO article on Drawdowns exactly talks about all these issues. I do hope you get a chance to read it. My experience is that rebalancing is a 2-step practice.
The 1st thing I find is Slippage away from core positions into tertiary positions. This might be if I thought of Stock picking or market timing. To me, this is actually a more worthwhile rebalancing to do because most of the time when I compare vs the index my stock selections or over/underweighting, I find I would have been better off sticking to the core views. This requires have a pre-set view on what the core asset class index is in each asset.
The 2nd is the under/over weight. I find that as all risky assets have become correlated (international, em, RE, US), I tend to rebalance less internally across risk assets and allow momentum to express over/under weights until it just becomes too extreme. Right now EM assets seem extreme is an example and a motivator to shift out of US into EM by 1-2% max.
Shifting between Risky and Riskless is harder because the Riskless has also been RIsky this year. Neverthless, now I feel we are at a point where a downward risk to growth could actually move bonds up in price. I have been more focused on adding to Bonds from US Eq.
Michael F Price, RIP
Michael F Price, RIP So sad to read of his passing. I also want to send my deepest heart felt condolences to his family.
He died way too soon, at only 70.
I too bought Mutual Shares as my first mutual fund in 1989 ( or before, but that is as far back as my available records go!) after reading everything I could find about him and his ideas about value investing. Over the years we put more and more in until it was my biggest position, with Mutual Discovery a close second.
When he sold the firm, I wrote him a long letter, thanking him for putting up such good returns, but also for teaching me about investing and the difference between the value of a company and the price of it's stock.
I can't think of any other well known investor, other than perhaps Buffett, who had a greater impact on my investment ideas ( or on our net worth!).