Portfolio Protection Strategy Hi Guys,
DavidV is not a very experienced or confident investor, and the market’s shaky start this year has only operated to reinforce his qualms. Given the poor start, it’s probably helpful to review the statistics on market meltdowns. There are plenty of websites that summarize these data in an attractive, easy to understand format. One such nice summary is provided by Scottrade. Here is a Link to it:
https://about.scottrade.com/blog/blogposts/Market-Corrections-and-Rebounds.htmlAlthough the article was published in 2014, it provides the bulk of the necessary data in a graph that incorporates the depth of the downturn, and the times for both the meltdown and its recovery. It’s always a good idea to be familiar with the base rate stats in order to establish an anchor point. Any special insights and/or circumstances that exist now can be used to extrapolate off that departure point.
I especially like the bar chart presentation that graphically illustrates the length of the entire cycle and the extent of both parts of it. The final chart in the article depicts the benefits of a mixed stock/bond portfolio in terms of ameliorating the impact of several market meltdowns.
Knowledge of the odds is always mandatory. Scottrade provided a succinct summary. Here it is: “The Market Downturns and Recoveries image below shows 1
5 major corrections of 10% or more over the last 88 years; on the right side of the image, you can see how long it took the market to recover. In instances where the market declined by less than 30%, the average length of the downturn was 8 months and average recovery time after the downturn was 9 months.”
On average, these are not long times. Dependent on spending needs, these data, along with a comfortable safety factor, suggest how much cash should be held in reserve for protective purposes.
Enjoy. I hope you find these data both useful and entertaining.
Best Wishes.
Art Cashin: "A Strange Jobs Number" Hi
@vkt and
@Old_JoeI witnessed and began to understand this transformation (management in particular) as I watched the "old management", most of whom were educated properly for their positions; but who had also moved "up" through the company and actually knew what the company was all about. In 1990, a group I had worked with for a number of years was always in the top
5% of monetary performers nationwide. The company president invited several of us for lunch and a meeting to "discover" our secret of high standards and performance. He listened very closely and began some changes within the company. Within 2 years he and numerous others in upper management were replaced with outsiders who had no knowledge of the particular business. I watched as the company took too many wrong paths to make things "better". The majority of the new leaders were MBA folks who had graduated in the early 1990's. They tried all kinds of fancy stuff to enlighten the workers. But, never again did anyone from upper management ever ask "us" what could be done to improve the performance of the company. I suspect their ego(s) caused them to know they had already learned from the MBA program books what needed to be done. Sadly, they didn't know, that they didn't know.
This technical company still exists, but has had a few CEO's removed under shady circumstances and more than one class action lawsuit filed by employees and customers.
Just one of what I suspect are numerous similar conditions of American companies.
Regards,
Catch
Portfolio Protection Strategy Frankly DavidV, your timing strategy is possible I suppose. There are successful trend followers here that are very successful on avoiding big losses. Junkster comes to mind. He does it with specific funds in a specific sector. He buys when he determines an upward trend has formed within a trend channel that he is comfortable with and sets a specific sell percentage from the high after he buys. It absolutely works for him, but I don't believe everyone possess the skills or diligence needed to succeed with this type of investing. Maybe you could use the same approach with a portfolio mix. If you don't have the skill and diligence needed, and I know I don't possess those attributes, the risk tolerance buy and hold method would fit. And I'm comfortable with portfolio weight adjustments depending on economic factors, like old skeet. Just not 100% in or out.
So even with the average and standard deviation statistics MJG gave you (I think 10% average return and 12% standard deviation), probability statistics say you would have a 68% likelihood of yearly returns between -2% and +22% (10%-12% being the low). Of course that means you have a 32% chance of returns below (could be well below) -2%. If you want to open up the normal distribution curve, say to 95% confidence (2 standard deviations) with a 60/40 portfolio you are likely to have year to year returns between -14% and +32% (and 5% possibly worst or better). If you look at 2008, you see moderate 60/40 balanced funds losing 20-25%. So heck, in 2008 you were in that slim 5% worst case probability range. It happens. If nothing else, the great recession tells you the market can be very mean. But, within 5 years it was back.
A disclaimer on the numbers. I'm well through my second beer after a hard weeks work.