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Yes, that was the Spitzer and Singh study cited ...Getting back to the question as to "where" should retirement withdrawals come from this study researched a number of options and I liked this quote enough to pass it along:
In virtually all the scenarios, "it pays to eat your bonds first, equities later."
Withdrawal scenarios studied:
1. Withdraw money from either stocks or bonds and then rebalance the portfolio annually to the initial stock/bond proportion. This harvesting rule will be referred to as “Rebalance.”
2. Withdraw money from the asset that had the highest return during the year and do not rebalance. This will be referred to as “High First.”
3. Withdraw money from the asset that had the lowest return during the year and do not rebalance. This will be referred to as “Low First.” To the extent that historical rates of return on bonds tend to be lower than historical rates of return on stocks, the following two additional methods of harvesting withdrawals will be referred to as “Bonds First” and “Stocks First.”
4. Take withdrawals from bonds first and do not rebalance.
5. Take withdrawals from stocks first and do not rebalance.
Study:
time-diversification-vs-rebalancing-in-retirement-portfolios/
They could probably run a 10 period monthly moving average on the prices of the assets as to reduce daily generated "whipsaws" ( as many "needless" whipsaws occurring in the past have been contained "within" the monthly data ) and reduce the amount of "management" time, ie. looking at the calculations daily / subjecting oneself too frequently to market data - leading to possible cognitive investing biases ...Interesting Read using a three fund portfolio (VFINX, VUSTX, VSGBX or VFITX) and a 200 mda filter.
From the link:
"The popular 60/40 Stocks/Bond portfolio performs well over the past 24 years, but adding a simple moving average to this portfolio has increased returns, reduced the duration of draw downs, and substantially reduced portfolio draw down. Adding in an intermediate term bond fund as the cash fund accomplished even more, it increased annual returns more than 10% over the buy and hold portfolio, while having close to 1/3 of the daily draw down numbers. Avoiding draw down and still being involved in market upswings was the goal of this strategy, and it worked well in this instance. There were a few concerns, namely being involved in the cash filter fund for too much duration, not being diverse enough to capitalize on gains across different markets, and the potential of missing out on some of the market upsides. However, these concerns did not prevent us from accomplishing the goals of reducing draw down and risk along with increasing return in this particular example."
iema-blog.com/2016/02/6040-stockbonds-portfolio-with-market.html
Ya I know someone who did the same thing when he retired 5 years ago at 62 and is in trouble now.I have personally known 4 people who chose a lump sum option from their employer in retirement vs annuity option. All 4 are in serious trouble now.
Is this a M* poke-in-the-ribs to TRP? Suggesting..... even though underlying funds are actively managed, it is their understanding that the overall asset allocations will be "managed" as well; and, when the manager(s) of underlying funds express trepidation in outlook for certain assets in the near future, then M* expects TRP to tweak the allocation invested in those assets (and they are not seeing that done). Hmmm, should this perceived shortcoming be enough to warrant a rating downgrade?"Meanwhile, the T. Rowe Price Retirement series has fallen to Silver--still a strong vote of confidence--from Gold. Solid underlying funds and a steady asset-allocation approach give the series a discernible edge over most peers. However, the team's tendency to stick with the status quo when underlying manager concerns arise gives pause, and continued asset growth might lead to a small shift away from active management, a driver of the series' outstanding long-term results." [my emphasis]
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