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  • Can Billionaire Manager Ron Baron Regain His Touch?
    Interesting article.
    1. At least he throws great parties. I've never been a shareholder, but shareholders can go to the annual meeting, which has interviews with the portfolio managers, interviews with CEOs and performances from the likes of Sting and I think Jerry Seinfeld one year.
    2. I thought Baron Partners could short (although like CGM Focus, rarely did.) Guess not.
    3. A whole lot about going after more money, not a lot (really nothing, actually) about things that benefit shareholders - none of it seems to understand the current environment. If you're going to expand in this time period and try to pull in more assets, "Baron Balanced" has a nice ring to it. Obviously low-risk is not what Baron is about, but if it's about pulling in new money... Pimco's new funds haven't been all that outstanding, but I think at least they show an understanding of what people are looking for.
    Um, speaking of funds that might be of interest given the current environment, whatever happened to Baron Retirement Income? It's not even listed on the Baron website or Morningstar.
    4. "Could Baron skip the frills and simply pass the $25 million difference along to shareholders in the form of lower fees? Baron contends that most people don't care about the price tag. "We are not trying to be Wal-Mart," he says. "If people want low fees, they can go to Vanguard."" Lol. People don't care about fees? Apparently he's never read MFO. The Wal-Mart comment also shows, much like a fair amount of the rest of the article, Baron doesn't get why 18% of the company's assets have left.
    5. He's a permabull. He admits errors in 2008, but the next "crisis" will likely be no different for Baron funds.
    Bonus: "lives on an East Hampton property that cost nine figures in 2007. Reports at the time said he bought it for $103 million, but he's quick to correct a reporter: It was actually $132 million."
    Nice timing (again, permabull.) Although he probably doesn't care.
  • Trigger points, Long-Short funds (D-I-Y), what are you thinking???
    Sunday morning coffee break,
    What's your trigger point(s)?
    --- Are you using fundamental or techinical analyis, or a combination? Are the fundamentals without merit; at least at a company level, and that the global (central banks and debt) the real place to view what may be fundamental to your investments? A few have noted here, that their market trigger points came to view in the month of April; and a review of charts indicates a most correct call. Congratulations.
    How are you guaging the markets?
    --- Take no prisoners. While past sideways markets may have provided some shelter in domestic equity havens of broad healthcare, consumer staples and utility area investments; a take no prisoners equity market puke doesn't really care about these sectors, eh?
    What's your breaking point?
    --- How far does one ride a sector or broad market move? This question is not just inclinced to a sell function; but also to a buy function, any given sectors.
    D-I-Y long/short fund house.
    --- Without actually investing in an active long/short fund; many investors are operating their own long/short portfolio based upon their mix. Not unlike a long/short fund; the balance may tilt too far one way or the other. L/S funds do have the obvious advantage of using all of the tools (put/call options and the full tool box) to modify in a short time period to where they think a market sector(s) may be headed. For individuals, a most simple plan of a 50/50 split between VTI and BND (or one's favorites in these areas) could do the trick.
    Our current portfolio has become ballasted more and more towards IG bonds; not that we have not had some of this ballast in place for the past 3 years. Whether or not anyone who reviews the Funds Boat is in agreement to our portfolio mix is not the point of the posting; only to the fact of another portfolio view for consideration, and that we place our monies where our mouth is.....
    As is always noted (especially for new visitors to this site); is that our position is directed towards capital preservation first, and to hopefully trickle growth into the mix; regardless of how or where from, the growth arrives. However, captial preservation must also be a priority for the beginner, too; and regardless of the age for those who have been investing for any number of years and find retirement to be a few decades away. The value of capital preservation is the ability to compound the positive, regardless of how small the return; into continued growth going forward.
    What is your plan with your portfolio during this twitchy investing period? Is this period just a re-do of 2010 and 2011, or otherwise? Or do you feel this is just a blip to ride out and the problems will be resolved in a timely manner to your satisfaction and have no long term impact upon your portfolio?
    Okay, out of coffee.
    A few simplified questions posted for this house and yours; but requiring more complex answers. Not really a totally fair mix between a simple question requiring a complex answer; but some of the questions we all attempt to answer for ourselves. I don't recall any quotes about investing being a simple task.
    Be careful out there in investment land and take care of you and yours.
    Catch
  • June 2012 update is posted
    "This month we begin by renewing the 2009 profile of a distinguished fund, Wasatch Long/ Short (FMLSX) and bringing a really promising newcomer, Aston / River Road Long- Short (ARLSX) onto your radar.
    Our plans for the months ahead include profiles of Aston/MD Sass Enhanced Equity (AMBEX), RiverPark Long/Short Opportunity (RLSFX), RiverPark/Gargoyle Hedged Value (RGHVX), James Long-Short (JAZZX), and Paladin Long Short (PALFX). If we’ve missed someone that you think of a crazy-great, drop me a line. I’m open to new ideas."
    There have been few successes in the long-short field in part because of the inflexibility of the funds - these were largely presented as "hedge funds for the masses", but in many cases are not flexible enough to be really functional in this market. They're just not hedge funds and if the funds are not "fully functional" in a way that can pull of the strategy, they disappoint . See the Rydex Managed Futures fund, which was "ahead of its time" as the first Managed Futures fund, but after it worked in 2008 when everything went in one direction, it has seemed broken ever since because of the fact that the long-short fund only repositions once a month (and I believe is sector specific - if it's short ag, it's short ag across the board rather than specific commodities.) Managed futures as a strategy has not been outstanding in the mutual fund space over the last few years, but a number of large managed futures hedge funds that are vastly more flexible have done fine. However, something that updates its positions once a month in this market is going to be continually off unless you get one long, continuous move either way.
    Additionally, many long-short funds often seem to take the long-short mentality too literally - those funds that can dial up and down risk with much greater flexibility (Marketfield, the Robeco fund) are the few that have held up better than the rest. Those who seem to continually have to be short with a good deal of the portfolio have not. Those who have tried to discuss fundamentals in a time of the easiest monetary policy in history (Hussman) have not. Nakoma, well...
    As for the James fund, didn't they have a Market Neutral fund that imploded not that long ago? That fund was down 28% between 11/08 and when it folded in June of last year.
    Look at what Leuthold Hedged equity turned into (or not.), as well. As for Leuthold....
    "I’ve been wondering, lately, whether there are better choices than Leuthold Global (GLBLX) for part of my non-retirement portfolio."
    Yes, yes there is. The Leuthold funds continue to be disappointing and I think it became clear that the hundreds of indicators that Leuthold was using were no longer all that functional in a market like this as maybe they used to be.
    I mean, from an article on hedge funds and being in a market where one "has to change algorithms":
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/21/us-trading-blackbox-idUSBRE84K07320120521
    "NEW ALGORITHMS
    In the middle of a trading floor overlooking the Thames, a huge screen flashes with the deals - everything from interest rate futures to oil contracts - made by AHL's black-box computer.
    The firm has recently had a rough ride: its portfolio fell almost 17 percent in 2009 and lost 6.8 percent last year when the fund's assets shrank 11 percent to $21 billion, dragging the share price of its parent, Man Group.
    "We've learned our lessons," says boss Tim Wong. The fund is now keenly aware of the need to pay attention to what its rivals may be doing, he says.
    But AHL isn't out to match Winton's ancient data - its chief scientist Anthony Ledford argues that modern markets behave very differently than they did 50 or 100 years ago. ************* Winton sends researchers to libraries and archives across the world to find numbers held in books and on microfilms. It has found barley and sesame prices from ancient Babylon, and English wheat prices going back to 1209. It now employs more than 90 researchers, including extragalactic astrophysicists, computer scientists and climatologists. The company hired a meteorologist who had researched the "El Nino" phenomenon.************** The physics graduate - Winton wants to keep his name secret for fear a rival might poach him - works in London correlating weather data to crops such as corn, wheat and soybeans. That data can be used to forecast how prices might fluctuate with the weather.
    Instead, it is sharpening up its processes. AHL has cut back its short-term algorithms, and is developing codes to profit from different market patterns away from trend-following - for example, betting on the fact that markets tend to iron out short-term anomalies over time, or revert to the mean.
    With volatility so high now, it is also developing new algorithms that try to predict, and trade on, the changing volatility of different assets.
    Its approach gets support from some investors.
    "The old CTAs are relying too much on the past," said Monty Agarwal, an author and founding partner of Managed Futures Fund, which invests in both its own and external CTAs. "The new strategies that we see thriving are mean reversion, which is trend anticipation, and pattern recognition - artificial intelligence."
    The funds know they need something new to generate 'alpha', or outperform the market. AHL's Ledford isn't sure whether short-term codes will ever work again. "It's either taken an extremely long time for the alpha to come back from those frequencies or it's not coming back," he said. "And I still don't know the answer to that."
    ---
    Or, as Lord Rothschild (or "Lord Vader", perhaps) simply said a couple of days ago, "Unless one has a long horizon, investment success in
    public markets has become a game of timing rather
    than fundamentals."
    You have an investment market where people have to research grain prices from ancient Babylon in order to try and get that extra leg up over their computer-driven competition. No comment really necessary.
    Overall, another really terrific article this month, and keep up the wonderful work with MFO.
  • June 2012 update is posted
    Hi, guys.
    Hope you like it. Four fund profiles - Aston/River Road Long Short and Wasatch Long Short (an update) plus Huber Small Cap Value (Lipper's top SCV fund for the past three years) and Osterweis Strategic Investment (another update).
    There are also several warnings about bad data at Morningstar - or, at least, stuff that's substantially inconsistent from one portion of the site to the next, a note about FBR's decision to try to sell their fund family (perhaps they regret chasing Chuck Akre and his billion in assets away?) and other bad moves by fund directors.
    "Best of" looks, a bit, at retirement income calculators. I'm likely to follow up on the subject myself in July.
    And I've tried reorganizing the "briefly noted" section and the style of the updated profiles, to make both a bit more usable. Let me know what you think.
    And have a great weekend.
    As ever,
    David
  • new brokerage firm
    Hi tip,
    Most of our assets are held at Wellstrade (WT) because of their 100 free trades/year for qualifying accounts. You may link a qualifying retirement account with a non-qualifying taxable account, so that you get 100 free trades for each account. And I have been able to link my qualifying account with the non-qualifying accounts of my 7 children, so that they each may have 100 free trades/year. Also, there is no WT short-term trading fee other than those required by mutual funds. And they do reinvest dividends for stocks, OEFs, and CEFs on request.
    However, since opening our accounts, Wellstrade has provided consistently very poor service. If you want them to carry a new mutual fund, forget about it. They will if they want to and definitely NOT because you want them to. With transfers in and out of WT, you need to fax the required documents, and then call them to make certain that everything is in order. If something is not right with your paperwork, they will not call or contact you -- at least that is my experience. I have become accustomed to their poor customer service, which is at least consistent. I guess that is a positive if you squint your eyes.
    We also have smaller accounts at Fidelity, Scottrade, TOS/TDAmeritrade, and Firstrade for access to specific attractive mutual funds which are not available at WT. Fidelity has the absolute best service in the business IMO, but they also have the almost the highest costs. The customer service and costs at the other three brokerages are excellent. Please note that we had a Thinkorswim (TOS) account before they were gobbled up by TDAmeritrade, so we are grandfathered into the very reasonable TOS fee schedule: $15 for sale or purchase of non-NTF funds, and no short-term trading fees other than those specified by the mutual funds.
    I really wish I could consolidate all of our assets in one brokerage, but so far that's a no-go.
    Kevin
  • Thoughts on mid cap value watch list?
    In the domestic value space, I am using FNSAX, which is more of a multi-cap value fund. Another young fund in this space to consider would be GOODX.
    In the domestic MC space (all styles), funds that look attractive include UMBMX, WPFIX ($2K minimum in Scottrade retirement accounts per site), and DEFIX, in that order.
    Kevin
  • Blue-Chip Dividend Growth Stocks Today's Strong Option For Retirement Portfolios
    Guys - don't get me wrong, this isn't a call to overweight Stocks right now or immediately.
    Yes, computers are investing for the next 30 nanoseconds but the point is to try to hold your stock/bond balance within reasonable range. If you're say an average 39 year old investor then maybe 80% stocks is a bit too aggressive and also 80% bonds could be a bit too conservative. If you've normally been comfortable the past few years with a 60/40 stock/bond allocation but recently have gone to a bit more conservative stance to say 50/50 --- then that's perfectly fine especially considering this investor is adding new money periodically in their 401k.
    In early 2009 - I have seen investors including acquaintences I've met at parties who dumped ALL of their equities at that time.
    My own take-away I have from the article is not to replace drastic amounts of bonds with equities but to be careful about overdoing the fear factor and not investing in stocks at all or barely doing so out of fear. Again, I ramped up my investing in equities actually during the aftermath of the dotcom crash and I came away beautifully for it. What's the big deal as the stock market goes up and down while you're adding say $500 or $1000 a month to your Retirement fund.
    The reason why HP, Nokia, Motorola, Dell and RIMM stocks have been down, down, down and McDonalds, Apple, Visa and Mastercard stocks have been up and up has all been about their business and not because of fast-trading computers. Visa and Mastercard were a good buy on the dips after they debuted --- especially if your investment horizon is longer than 30-nanoseconds or 30-seconds or 30-days.
    The short-term stock movement is based on a voting machine but in the long-term it's based on a weighing machine.
    Nothing is wrong with being a bit more defensive these days especially if the macro environments worry you and would cause some sleepless nights but the perspective offered in the article is dead-on as least for me....not for overweighting nor replacing bonds with stocks but for understanding why I should hold on and continue investing new money in a balanced portion of equities in my portfolio. Like I said before --- adding new money periodically bit by bit, month by month as the markets went lower and lower was an awesome time for me.
    We're getting closer and closer to juicier and juicer valuations.
  • Need some advice for a friend
    also a couple of reads about retirement/long term investings
    http://online.barrons.com/article/SB50001424052748703438504577042394189481000.html#printMode
    http://seekingalpha.com/article/309386-time-to-throw-away-the-4-withdrawal-rule-for-retirement
    http://seekingalpha.com/article/309115-retirement-scenarios-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickferri/2011/11/21/withdrawal-rates-drop-as-fees-rise/
    http://www.burnsidenews.com/Opinion/Columns/2011-11-14/article-2804370/The-new-retirement-and-effects-of-market-risk/1
    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/americans-in-the-dark-about-the-real-cost-of-retirement-131508253.html
    http://seekingalpha.com/article/298138-rewriting-the-4-rule
    also rono's previous retirement commentary, a must read imho
    rono - retirements
    Think of your retirement like a stool with legs. We all know that if your stool only has one leg, it won’t be very sturdy. Even if it has two legs, it will likely tip over. Once we get to three legs, it’ll stand on its own. With four legs, it becomes even sturdier. In addition, you want your legs to be strong.
    With your retirement, the objective is to have as many legs under your own retirement stool as you can. More is better. You always want more legs. In this way, even if one leg falters or is cut off, you have other legs to support your stool. Five is better than four, six is better than five.
    Examples of legs are numerous, but we can start with Social Security. Add in your Pension. How about a saving account? The equity in your house is a good one. You want to include deferred compensation and an IRA. Another leg could be an outside business – you could be an EBAY dealer, or a landlord, or have a corner store. What about having children that have gotten a good education (largely with you help, I should add). You might have a collection of widgets that have value. These ALL can become legs under your retirement stool. Which do you have and how strong are they?
    SOCIAL SECURITY. Regardless of how secure you may, or may not, think the system is, in all likelihood it will be around to a greater or lesser degree. Sure, the age at which you can start drawing may increase and even benefits may be reduced. However, it remains such a key component of our society, that to some degree it will be one of your legs.
    PENSION. Whether you’re going to receive a Defined Benefits (traditional) pension, or a Defined Contributions (401K) type pension, this is also another key leg under your stool. A traditional pension is nice because supposedly it’s a guaranteed income for the remainder or your life [note: this is no longer such a guarantee as in the past]. Sometimes you even have the choice of a “cash out” option where you can roll the monies into a Rollover IRA and thereafter have control over it. With a Defined Contribution (401K) pension, you also have some benefit in that it’s portable. If you decide to change jobs, you can ‘take it with you’. Normally, this is also through the process of moving it into a Rollover IRA.
    SAVINGS. Hopefully, we all have some savings if nothing other than an Emergency Fund. An Emergency Fund is where you start and is normally six months worth of expenses (bills). Once this fund is established, additional savings can be invested or simply left in the bank. Either way, this money also represents another leg.
    DEFERRED COMPENSATION. Many employers offer some sort of deferred compensation in addition to the 401(k), in which you have an option of also investing. Depending upon the particular plan, the limits may or may not be similar to those of a 401. You might have similar or different investment options and you also might have different withdrawal rules. However, it can become another Leg under your retirement stool.
    IRA (TRADITIONAL OR ROTH). The Roth IRA is one of the nicest gifts ever made to us by the federal government. With limits, you can contribute up to a certain amount each with after-tax dollars and later withdraw everything TAX EXEMPT. There are some minor restrictions on withdrawal of the gains (not the principal), but these are minor and end at 59 ½ . After that you can take it out however you wish without worries about the taxes. This is very neat.
    With the traditional IRA, if you have a lower income, you can contribute with after tax monies (the credit comes when you file your taxes). This money grows tax deferred but your withdrawals are subject to tax as income. There are even situations where it may be wise to contribute to a traditional IRA when you don’t qualify for the tax break. This is because you’ve contributed After tax money and therefore only the gain is taxable at a later date – not the principal. You would want to weigh the tax implications both now and in the future to go this route, but it should be considered in some situations.
    A further note about these tax exempt or deferred IRS type of retirements savings plans (401, 403, 457, traditional IRA and Roth IRA) is that they often have drastically different withdrawal rules and tax implications. This means they provide a great deal of flexibility in how your use them for retirement . . . and flexibility is good.
    HOME EQUITY. Buy a home. Period. It beats renting as you’re paying into your OWN equity, rather than the landlord’s. Over time this equity will increase and become available, should you need it, in retirement. There is even now such a thing as a reverse mortgage. This is where, in retirement, you sell your home to the bank, and continue to live in it until you die, but they pay YOU a monthly mortgage payment. However, this only works if you’ve either paid it off, or most of it, because in effect, you’re borrowing on your equity. Home equity is a great and crucial leg under your retirement stool.
    OUTSIDE INCOME. Start another business on the side. Sell stuff on EBay. Become a landlord and rent out houses. With any of these, you’re establishing a second stream of income and another leg under you stool.
    CHILDREN. You’ve heard the expression, “my son (daughter) - the doctor”. Well, don’t sneeze. Having kids and helping them through school so they can get good paying jobs is a form of security in your old age that can be very important. How many know of someone who had a parent or other relative move in with them? Whether you need or want to use it, it can be another leg.
    In summary, you want to take an inventory of the number of legs you have under your retirement stool and how strong each of them is. Can you add another leg or two between now and when you retire? Can you strengthen any of the weaker legs you presently have?
    The bottom line is that your retirement is only as secure and sturdy as you make it and having a variety of strong legs under your retirement stool, provide a diversity that can insure you against any one or more legs, getting chopped off or eliminated. Or think of it as diversifying your retirement. If diversification is good for your portfolio . . . why is it not good for your retirement?
  • Blue-Chip Dividend Growth Stocks Today's Strong Option For Retirement Portfolios
    PART II..............................
    >>> Risk exists period. Pick whatever sector you choose and the risk is there. The writer notes: "Hopefully, it is more out of ignorance of the true facts than it is by bad intentions." We do our best here to understand the variables and machinations in place. We readers; at least as to what I read from this writer, does not explain or express what the "true facts" may be to rest this article upon. It is apparent from my personal view, that what the writer understands or knows to be "true facts" are not always from the same perspective or knowledge base.
    As I have discussed in this article and many previous articles, I believe investors should behave according to the advice of legendary hockey star Wayne Gretzky who taught us "I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been." In that vein, I believe that tomorrow successful investors will follow Wayne Gretzky's lead.
    >>> This is a correct statement and example. While the writer uses this fine quote, I feel it partially dissolves his giving credible meaning to his thoughts regarding the "old" data. His expression of the value of the "old" data is "where the puck has been".
    For the past several decades bonds have been a great refuge of safety and attractive return, especially for the investor desirous of income. But I believe a careful examination of the 110-year-old 10-year Treasury bond history presented in this article indicates that that is about to change. Conversely, I believe the future for US based dividend paying equities is quite bright. At least that is where I recommend skating in today's investment environment."
    >>> Again.........His expression of the value of the "old" data is "where the puck has been". Equities will likely be bright again; with some sectors shining brighter than others. Our challenge is to discover the "whens" with any sector or type of investment.
    I am not so sure that the past several decades have been the place for investors attempting to discover income. The majority of baby boomers were not invested directly into bonds. The motivating factor as to large bond positions have been/were held by many pensions funds, in my opinion.
    As this house is of the "boomers", I will mention again; as been stated before also at FundAlarm; I still feel many economists and related writers and advisors are still having a problem coming to grips with the social/economic changes that have taken place.
    I still point a finger at some today on the tube who I feel have not made the transisition to this new world of investments. I make this statement from the position of our house having been 90% equity investors since 1978. Today, we are not at this time. This too, may change.
    Finally, if we were 15-30 years younger, and knowing we would have continuing cash flow into this house from employment vs pending retirement; we would be slinging some money at the etf market place and playing with some of our monies in this space, which is the "new" area of what was the options and futures markets of 20 years ago.
    Kenster, thank you again for this part article.
    Best to all in this turbulent investing period.
    Regards,
    Catch
  • Blue-Chip Dividend Growth Stocks Today's Strong Option For Retirement Portfolios
    "To summarize, the only rational reason that people are eschewing stocks in favor of bonds is fear. "
    Not entirely. I believe distrust is absolutely a primary reason - many people's faith and trust in the financial system is broken and that's simply going to take time. People who are near retirement age and just went through the worst financial crisis in history are - in many instances - not going to take major risks again.
    I mean, look at mutual fund flows - three years of near-constant outflows from equity funds (mostly domestic, which I find fascinating) and into bonds, which shows no signs of stopping. That - to me - looks like an orderly flow of people out.
    Are bonds the right choice? Fundamentally no, but that's where people are - they don't want to take the risk of equities and when you take away any sort of interest on checking or CDs, people flock to all sorts of bonds and you get an angry mob of seniors who are upset they aren't getting much interest on their fixed income and who get 0.0000000000001% on their CDs.
    Additionally, as for the market, Flack said it well in another thread: "I know that a few of you will say, “But that didn’t happen in 1952 or 1968 or whatever year.
    I don’t know how many times I’ve said this but this is not your father’s stock market.
    You father wasn’t matched up against computerized trading that doesn’t give a rat’s ass
    about fundamentals.
    This means that you should evaluate the market conditions
    as they are currently and forget about what the market was like
    some 30, 40, and 50+ years ago."
    ...and I think a fair amount of retail investors are also starting to get that - that the balance of power has shifted even further out of their favor.
  • Blue-Chip Dividend Growth Stocks Today's Strong Option For Retirement Portfolios
    Blue-Chip Dividend Growth Stocks Today's Strong Option For Retirement Portfolios - Part 1
    http://news.morningstar.com/articlenet/SubmissionsArticle.aspx?submissionid=144075.xml
    There is a confluence of factors that are painting a very odd picture of current investor behavior. Common sense and a careful analysis of the market dynamics between equities and bonds today would indicate that investors should be acting in the exact opposite manner than they are. Interest rates are hovering at a 100-year low, which creates two problems for investors. First, there is not enough return from bonds to fund a retiree's income needs or to fight inflation. Second, investing in bonds with interest rates so low makes it riskier to own bonds today than it has been in over a century.
    {...}
    Nevertheless, investors are not only making a classic mistake, I believe they are making a very obvious and thus quite avoidable mistake. It is an undeniable fact that bond prices go down when interest rates go up. Since interest rates cannot go to zero or below, it logically follows that interest rates have nowhere to go over the long term but up. Perhaps, as many believe, federal intervention may keep rates low for another year or so. But in the longer run, the powerful forces of the market can only be contained for so long.
    Yet given what I've already said, we continue to see that bond mutual fund inflows remain at a record high, while simultaneously equity fund outflows are some of the largest on record.
    {...}
    In searching the Internet for a long-term graphic on 10-year U.S. Treasury notes I came across the following 110-year chart courtesy of the financial blog Observations. Although the chart from 1950 through 2010 illustrates a clear mirror image of interest-rate behavior, the portion going back to 1900 is even more illuminating. This is not statistical mumbo-jumbo showing correlation without causation, this is a factual depiction of interest rates spanning over 110 years.
    {...}
    To summarize, the only rational reason that people are eschewing stocks in favor of bonds is fear. The precipitous drop in stock prices during the great recession has yet to be forgotten. On the other hand, what is forgotten is the fact that the same thing can happen to bonds as well. Therefore, I believe the irrationally exuberant confidence in bonds is ill-gotten. The only reason bond prices haven't fallen in 30 years is because interest rates have been falling since the early 1980s. When interest rates fall, bond prices go up and therefore an even greater aura of safety surrounds bonds. Keep in mind; although prices on pre-issued bonds will go to a premium as interest rates are falling, the premium vanishes at maturity.
    {...}
    Additionally, there are several facts regarding the long-term ownership of quality dividend paying equities that many people either overlook or forget. But perhaps the most important fact is that any of the damage that the great recession caused was only temporary in nature for the prudent and intelligently patient investor. The prudent investor is defined as one who in the first place, was careful to only invest in blue-chip equities when valuations made sense. This is especially true for the best-of-breed blue chips that continued to generate strong earnings during the recession and consequently raised their dividends. Inevitably, the stock prices on quality companies whose earnings held up eventually return to fair value.
    {...}
    In other words, as long as the stocks were not panic sold out into price weakness, existing shareholders soon recovered their temporary losses while continuing to enjoy a steadily growing dividend income stream along the way. As I also stated before, it’s not the volatility itself that represents risk, but rather the emotional reaction to volatility which is where the real risk sits.
    {...}
    As I have contended in this article, and others, as long as solid operating results remain intact, then I believe that shareholders have little to worry about except fear itself. Stock price volatility is often more a function of the emotional response than it is the rational response in the short run. However, in the longer run, I have long believed that dialectic thinking will prevail and rational behavior will follow. In other words, I was confident that stock prices will inevitably return to their fundamentally justified valuations.
    {...}
    There are many pundits and prognosticators that never weary of attempting to convince investors on how risky it is to invest in equities, even high-quality dividend blue-chip paying equities. Invariably, they will always point to volatility as the evidence supporting their thesis that stocks are too risky of an investment for retirees. Personally, I believe this is a great travesty that is prominently promogulated upon an unwary investing public. Hopefully, it is more out of ignorance of the true facts than it is by bad intentions. The inevitable interruptions in the business cycle have conditioned people into believing that stocks are riskier than they really are, at least in my opinion.
    {...}
    As I have discussed in this article and many previous articles, I believe investors should behave according to the advice of legendary hockey star Wayne Gretzky who taught us "I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been." In that vein, I believe that tomorrow successful investors will follow Wayne Gretzky's lead.
    For the past several decades bonds have been a great refuge of safety and attractive return, especially for the investor desirous of income. But I believe a careful examination of the 110-year-old 10-year Treasury bond history presented in this article indicates that that is about to change. Conversely, I believe the future for US based dividend paying equities is quite bright. At least that is where I recommend skating in today's investment environment.
  • ICI Fund Inflows/Outflows This Week
    Reply to @kevindow: There's a general dislike towards equities by much of the retail population, it seems, which now includes rich people (according to a poll CNBC was discussing yesterday), who are buying diamonds and other things - hard assets (http://www.cnbc.com/id/47446781). "A recent survey from Harrison Group and American Express Publishing found that the wealthy have cut back their allocations to stocks dramatically since the economic crisis."
    Personally, my view:
    If you are near retirement age, it's understandable not wanting to take considerable risk and focusing on fixed income.
    Otherwise, as I noted in another thread, I really don't understand buying treasuries here, and while corprates and dividend paying stocks are fine and great, the race for yield is an immensely crowded trade - everyone and their cousin wants yield. That trade could go on for years, potentially, but I think it gets to a point where people may look at yield first and fundamentals second.
    People definitely don't like stocks (please, someone start liking stocks so CNBC can STFU about how the retail investor hasn't come back - it's getting to the point where I can't even have it on in the background - and now CNBC's number one idiot, Steve "Baghdad Bob" Leisman just said that the US is better off than the rest of the world, because look at this great Facebook IPO we're doing), and while the sentiment could be an indicator in favor of them, I think people have to be able to deal with what I think will be continued significant volatility because problems (like Europe) continue to be postponed and keep coming back.
    I don't think many people are willing to deal with that kind of volatility and furthermore, I think people see what's going on and - whether they're eventually going to be proven right or not - it just reinforces their view that the market is rigged, the market is too risky, the market is... (fill in the blank.) I will say that - and I've said this before - if the market really cracks again there will be tumbleweeds blowing through the NYSE - you'll lose the interest of another large portion of the population, both wealthy and not.
    Personally, I have some funds and a number of individual holdings where I think there's a compelling long-term story/theme and fundamentals (as I noted yesterday, largely overseas.) What else can ya do?
    As for rich folks, I think their view and their pulling money is why you've seen a number of hedge fund managers looking for "permanent capital" (Ackman: "... with permanent capital we can be more opportunistic during periods of market and investor distress.”) by either going for a public fund (Loeb, possibly Harbinger and Ackman now apparently early in 2013 - http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/ackman-to-go-public-with-pershing-square-holdings-in-2013-11985/) or a reinsurance company (Loeb, Einhorn, SAC) or are funds converting to mutual funds (RLSFX and the new Pimco Long/Short fund.)
  • Funds Boat, allocation changes.....5.14.12
    I fully believe that you are doing what is right for you and I fully agree that those in/near retirement age should be conservative. I have a lot of concerns about a move to treasuries that does not seem sustainable and could reverse in a rocky manner. However, solid investment grade bond funds that are well-managed are probably fine, at least for a while.
    The only thing I really don't understand is the appeal of treasuries at these levels - I just think the fundamentals are terrible and you're not being paid for the level of risk.
    Again though, I don't have any issue with what you're doing and believe that you've managed your portfolio in a way that's right for you - and you've posted the results, which - for the desired risk level - are very good and consistent.
    I can not get treasuries at these levels and I'm rather concerned that maybe the rush for yield by everyone and their cousin will cause problems down the road (some dividend stocks still seem a little overbought after the recent market tumble), but at my age - different situation. I wouldn't want someone at/near retirement age to take some of the risks I'm taking.
    I do think - and agree with an excellent article from Pimco All Asset manager Rob Arnott that was posted a while back - those near retirement age are not going to take risk and that's going to create headwinds for assets.
    I don't think you should sell TEGBX or FNMIX (especially the former), but everyone knows their own desired level of risk.
    Bad News For Boomers (Arnott/WSJ)
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204795304577223632111866416.html
  • Funds Boat, allocation changes.....5.14.12
    Howdy,
    For what it is worth...............
    Regardless of the current mood swings in the equity sectors, I do not like the implications of EM bonds having larger down day percentages than many equity funds. This action will continue to follow through strongly today with a likely -1% range. I see this action as twitchy money moving to other places with less credit quality risk and related.
    Our FNMIX holdings have been greatly reduced; as well as TEGBX, which has followed the EM bond sector decline very closely. As we have some limited choices in some retirement accts.; the monies from these sells were moved either to FBNDX and FTBFX.
    Tomorrow we'll take another review of the equity holdings, too. And Greece is still in the picture, eh? Asia should hold some better clues with the Tuesday open there.
    U.S. retail sales and a few other reports will be presented this week. Whether the numbers are of value to the market place remains a mystery.
    Scott and Hank, the above should cause some head shaking from both of you. Regardless, if either of you ever threaten to stop posting or leave MFO, you better have a darn good reason.........I'll track you down to change your mind. All here need and enjoy your continued input.
    Regards,
    Catch
  • A System for the Long Term Investor to Enter and Exit Equity Positions
    At this point in my life and retirement, I only use asset allocation as a tool and while I have slowly been increasing fixed income with a goal of 25-30%, I don't make changes from technical indicators.
  • Overrating Stock Pickers
    Hi Guys,
    In its May 10, edition, the WSJ honored great stock analysts on an annual basis. The Journal prepared and published an extensive series of articles that featured a listing of the three top master stock pickers in 44 sub-sector equity categories.
    These top performers were granted Olympic-like status, similar to the newly minted gold, silver, and bronze metals now awarded by Morningstar in their second ranking formulation. This second Morningstar scoring procedure is purportedly forward looking in character, and supposedly contrasts with its famous “star” system which is fully rear-mirror looking by design.
    The WSJ rankings share the same attribute as the Morningstar Star system. The Star formula has revealed its mutual fund selection shortcomings over time. How useful is the WSJ assessments with respect to individual stock picks?
    On an individual stock picker basis, the WSJ listings show impressive results for the few category winners. But this is using hindsight bias; the champions for 2011 clearly established their superior records for that calendar year. But could the Journal identify these potential winners before the record was accumulated and evaluated? How persistent is performance over time? An overarching question is how skilful are the stock picker elite as a group? Do they really benefit their clients as a total?
    All stock analysts hired by financial firms are smart folks. They have great educations, super support staff, considerable on-the-job experience, and are highly motivated by personal pride, institutional recognition, and financial incentives. If anyone can successfully project future stock price movements, these guys should be the chosen ones.
    Intelligence, training and experience do matter. But the impact of these positive factors are muted if the price movements are chaotic by nature because of unknowable exogenous events and by internal complex feedback loops that are not modeled, perhaps not even recognized. The problem is further aggravated by irrational and inconsistent public behavioral responses. Investors reactions change remarkably when confronted with identical decision scenarios. Patterns get distorted over even short timeframes.
    Additionally, as Nassim Taleb and Daniel Kahneman observed in their respective “Black Swan” and “Thinking, Fast and Slow” books, luck is a key element in investment outcomes.
    Therefore, it is not shocking to discover that, although winners always exist in the stock selection marketplace, that same space also includes a substantial number of losers. The WSJ metal awards do not address the other end of this results spectrum.
    But I do. Here’s how.
    Besides showing the three superior stock pickers for each of the 44 sub-sector equity categories, the Journal also provides the class median performance for each of these categories. I used that data to complete a simple statistical analysis that yields an overall assessment of the entire host of stock analysts who were included in the contest.
    The WSJ scoring system is a little complicated so I have appended a Link to the Journal article that addresses the scoring methodology. It follows immediately:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303404704577307901542943884.html?mod=WSJ_Investing_MoreHeadlines
    In general, a positive score means that the stock pickers generated a net positive return for investors following their recommendations. Prescient sell signals were also incorporated into the evaluation by reversing the sign on the returns. The higher the net analyst score, the higher the likely client wealth enrichment potential. Note that many individual analyst and category scores were negative for the year, a wealth depleting likelihood.
    My simple analysis did not incorporate any weighting factors to adjust for the very disparate expert numbers who populated the various sectors. That refinement would improve the analysis but requires additional work. Given that I’m a bit lazy and out of training after two decades of retirement, I punted on that task. Perhaps a more energetic MFO participant can carry that ball across the goal line.
    Unfortunately, you must subscribe to the Journal to gain access to the overarching article titled “What Makes a Great Stock Analyst?” . Sorry about that. Perhaps you can identify an indirect avenue to secure access.
    My simple global statistical assessment shows that the analysts as a complete cohort did not add wealth for their clients. All of us have been exposed to similar findings for active mutual fund management. Market experts and pundits promise much, but frequently deliver little.
    The mean net return (gains minus losses) for adhering to the analysts’ recommendations was -1.11 units for 2011. Performance variability (standard deviation) was an unattractive 10.31 units. The maximum gain was 16.07, but the maximum underperformance was -23.33. Only 21 out of 44 category groupings (47.7 %) produced positive rewards. These results are disappointing given the talent and resources committed to uncovering attractive stock possibilities. Once again, luck seems to be a dominant factor.
    Overall, the WSJ awarded 132 (3 X 44) metals. The awards were scattered among 66 institutional and research firms. Goldman Sacks collected the most metals, 9 out of 63 analysts who qualified from Goldman for the competition. From a research corporate perspective, Morningstar came in third place with 6 metals from a recognized 63 entries.
    That concludes a summary of my crude statistical analysis of the WSJ survey. Now some interpretation.
    All analysis must be placed in a context framework. How tough was the equity marketplace for the stock picking army? Was there major tailwinds or headwinds? With the benefit of perfect hindsight, it was a mixed bag. In the US, this is appropriately measured by the mixed Index returns for 2011. The S&P 500 returned 2.1 %, the Wilshire 5000 delivered 0.6 % on the positive side of the ledger. The NASD composite absorbed -0.8 % while the Russell 2000 eroded -4.2 % of wealth on the negative side. The recorded returns demonstrated that the marketplace was not easy pickings during the previous year. Perhaps that was anticipated by customers and encouraged them to more fully implement expert advice. Of course, that’s speculative on my part.
    However, remember that the WSJ challenge was focused solely on a stock pickers ability to select specific stocks, not overall market behavior. His stock instincts and intuitions were being tested to determine his skill set in that arena alone. He was credited with a positive score both if his buy picks delivered profits and if his sell signals were properly aligned with subsequent performance. The WSJ constructed a fair test to gage stock picking acumen. They formulated a valid scoring method independent of the broad market direction.
    Even with my incomplete statistical analysis, we are now in a better position to answer one of the original questions posited earlier: Do stock picking gurus globally reward their clients? My answer is “No”. Some do, but slightly more do not.
    This analysis did not consider the costs associated with their task. That cost is a lot of money out of the pockets of the customers and into the deep pockets of the star pickers and especially into the coffers of their resident firms. That’s yet another drag on customers who often underperform annual market returns.
    The WSJ’s series honoring star stock pickers is misleading since it highlights the winners but mostly ignores those pickers who subtracted from their client’s wealth. The rating and ranking game is a double-edged sword that demands a broad statistical interpretation that is frequently omitted when promoting an agenda. In his book, Daniel Kahneman described it as WYSIATI (what you see is all there is). The WSJ articles perpetuate this tendency to only deploy the intuitive portion of the brain when making investment decisions while ignoring statistical data that establishes a base rate to make a more informed decision.
    So, I am under-whelmed by these findings as presented. Expert knowledge has its limitations, especially in a complex, chaotic environment with few consistent investment rules that survive time, and an unruly, emotional investing public. My analysis morphs the buyer beware bromide into a reader beware context.
    What do you think?
    Best Regards.
  • Rethinking Reinvestment
    I'm in retirement and reinvest dividends on all mutual funds in my retirement accounts. I take cash dividends on ETFs and individual stocks. I'm years away from having to do RMD on my main portfolio. However, I do have an inherited IRA where I do have to do RMD, but I keep enough cash in that account to more than cover it. I have a taxable account with a mutual fund in it that also reinvests; in this case I'm not concerned about calculated the cost basis since it's now the responsible of the brokerage to do that, and Fidelity's site does a nice job of that.
  • Tis not 2007/2008, but.....
    Reply to @Old_Joe: I'd agree with that, and I think the more I have CNBC on in the background and the more I hear, "WHY ISN'T THE RETAIL INVESTOR PARTICIPATING OMG!", the more I agree with that. They don't get why people are upset, they don't get why many retail investors have lost trust and the anchors stare blankly when they are told that some retail investors would honestly rather go to Vegas than put money in the market and trust Vegas more. They also - as you said - don't get the reality many people are facing.
    Either they don't get it, or - and Jim Rogers said it - CNBC is primarily a PR firm for the market. (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/jim-rogers-calls-cnbc-market-pr-agency-whose-sole-purpose-make-stocks-go-higher) CNBC just said people's anger at banks was "unfocused" and disorganized and are whining about the occupy movement and how they don't "get it." "I know people are frustrated, but why take it out on the financial services industry?" lol.
    Meanwhile, CNBC is facing its lowest ratings in many years.
    I think there are exciting companies that I want to be involved in, especially in the developing world. People aren't going to be pulled into risk again, and those hitting retirement age are going to value capital preservation over appreciation and it wouldn't stun me if you see continued movement into fixed income. That's not to say that people shouldn't invest in stocks, but I do think people have to keep expectations in check and the volatility is going to continue to cause people to exit.
    I do think that the emerging consumer has the potential to do better over time, and that's part of the reason why you're seeing moves like you are in some of the Brazil consumer names (AMBev) and Mexico's FEMSA and elsewhere. That'll be a bumpy ride, but the emerging consumer - I think - remains a potentially very good long-term theme (ECON etf is a broad way to play.)
  • Rethinking Reinvestment
    Once you are in retirement, taking the RMD, and no earned income, do you take or reinvest? Seems that if you are using the RMD, you have a decision of earning enough dividends and interest to cover the cash needed for RMD or having to sell shares. Does it still make sense to reinvest dividends? Or better to take the dividends and invest it in a cash account? Reinvesting makes it vulnerable to a market meltdown and having to sell shares at the worst time. Your thoughts?
  • No, You Don't Actually Need To Hire A Financial Advisor
    Hi OJ,
    From the article, "The advent of online advice"; kinda reminds one of this site, an investment home away from home and the many gracious and enlightening discussions.
    As to an advisor; I'm thinking about retiring this chore. What's a fella to do?
    'Course on the other side of this coin is that I continue to calculate (for enterainment purposes only) how many hours per year is spent regarding investments and using this number to divide into a given year of dollar returns; to find this house is paying ourselves a most decent hourly rate of pay. A tough decision to forgo such a good paying job in today's economy.
    A most valuable and side benefit from operating an in-house advisor group is the amount of knowledge gathered. It is difficult to place a value upon this.
    Lastly, the advisory staff at this house's operation are a friendly bunch and most flexible with work hours.
    Part of the subject was to be a Fund's Boat topic; but will just it be here and now.
    Lastly, an interesting article; and on the bright side, if one is a practicing investment advisor with a decent track record, this is one area that a retiring advisor would not have to deal with upon retirement, eh?
    Take care of yourselves,
    Catch