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  • Timing My RMD
    Since, all my mutual funds held in my IRA pay their distributions in cash (rather than reinvest) I take my RMD in January of each year. This gives me a full year to accru for this. In most cases I have enough cash on hand to meet the RMD without having to sell anything. Any residual cash gets invested or it can be held and put towards next years RMD.
  • PRWCX flat 01 Nov. 2018
    Hi Crash, The fund has morphed over the years into pretty much a “go anywhere” fund. Pretty darn hard to “read” its daily behavior for that reason. I knew they played with derivatives. Wasn’t aware (as you claim) it shorts stocks - but it wouldn’t surprise me. One thought - Gold (and materials) had an uncharacteristically big day Thursday. So if the fund is shorting any of that stuff, it would have gotten dinged. Even if substantially “underweight” materials (but not shorting) it would have lagged some of the broader indexes. TRP has been bearish on the commodities / materials sectors for several years.
    Compared to many other conservative equity / balanced funds, PRWCX is still having a respectable year. DODBX is positive but lags it. OAKBX and RPGAX are actually in the red.
    PRWCX - Lipper Breakdown (From Reuters)
    http://www.funds.reuters.wallst.com/US/funds/holdings.asp?YYY622_6sBkEkBoRVEDVUmnzYdySBuZTH3KwZb8EX/lL+8rQLfc70v/pOneMtJCmBtqvYsy
    TOP 10 HOLDINGS % of Assets (Change vs 1Q Ago)
    1 Keurig Dr Pepper Inc ORD
    KDP
    4.2%
    (+11.0%)
    2 T Rowe Price Government Money Fund
    PRRXX.O
    4.1%
    3 Marsh & McLennan Companies Inc ORD
    MMC
    3.2%
    (+2.1%)
    4 Microsoft Corp ORD
    MSFT.O
    3.0%
    (-1.5%)
    5 Fiserv Inc ORD
    FISV.O
    2.9%
    (-0.4%)
    6 Becton Dickinson and Co ORD
    BDX
    2.9%
    (-4.5%)
    7 Danaher Corp ORD
    DHR
    2.7%
    (-0.9%)
    8 PerkinElmer Inc ORD
    PKI
    2.7%
    (-5.5%)
    9 Visa Inc ORD
    V
    2.5%
    (+1.4%)
    10 Fidelity National Information Services Inc ORD
    FIS
    2.4%
    (+0.7%)
    @Crash - Try drinking more Keurig Coffee & Dr Pepper. It might boost your return. :)
  • Finding fund AUM over time?

    Is there any way to track / monitor an individual fund's AUM flows over time? The only data that's easily available is current-year/quarter AUM. Specifically, I'm wondering what PRGTX's AUM has looked like over the past few years. Thx in advance
  • Meredith Whitney Was Flat-Out Wrong About Municipal Bonds
    FYI: Being too far ahead of your time is indistinguishable from being wrong.”
    That’s what Howard Marks, chairman and co-founder of Oaktree Capital Group LLC, wrote in a memo to clients about 11 years ago. Around that same time in late 2007, banking analyst Meredith Whitney made a prescient negative call on Citigroup Inc. that exacerbated a market sell-off and, she said, prompted death threats. Perhaps emboldened by that experience, she made another headline-grabbing prediction in a December 2010 broadcast of CBS Corp.’s “60 Minutes” program: There would be “50 to 100 sizable defaults” in the U.S. municipal market in the coming year, totaling “hundreds of billions of dollars.”
    Regards,
    Ted
    https://www.fa-mag.com/news/meredith-whitney-was-flat-out-wrong-about-municipal-bonds-41662.html?print
    Meredith Whitney 60 Minutes Interview 12/19/2010:
  • Funds That Do Gender-Based Analysis Are Surging in Popularity: (SHE) - (RLDR)
    FYI: Assets in so-called gender lens funds grew sharply this year, according to a study by the wealth management firm Veris Wealth Partners. Gender-lens investing integrates gender-based factors, either to improve returns or to promote more gender equality.
    In the 12 months ended in June, assets under management in gender lens products that invest in publicly traded securities increased 85% to $2.4 billion from a year earlier, according to Veris. Gender lens assets have grown rapidly, but “this is the most growth we’ve seen in 20 years,” Patricia Farrar-Rivas, CEO of Veris Wealth Partners, said in an interview.
    Regards,
    Ted
    https://www.barrons.com/articles/gender-lens-investing-growth-1540834302?refsec=funds
  • Jonathan Clements: Ignore The Signs?
    Hmm ... I started taking distributions at perhaps 63 or 64 - long before RMD was required. And that’s when the realization sank in that this isn’t some “numbers game” we’re playing anymore. It’s very real spendable cash. Withdrew very small amounts the first few years. For several years the net amount invested continued to grow.
    My thinking behind the % comments I made earlier was along the lines that, while I have often chased markets down in the past - with some success - and including during the ‘07-‘09 rout, I won’t be chasing this one. My gut tells me there’s a ways to go yet. I’ve never before witnessed the kind of complacancy among investors as this time around. At 72 I don’t have a realistically long enough time horizon to tough it out and keep buying should prices continue falling.
    Not doing anything drastic. Just sitting back and watching. At the end of December it will be time to do a quarterly rebalance. Perhaps equities will be on sale at that time. :)
  • Jonathan Clements: Ignore The Signs?
    @Hank. 2019 will be my first RMD. Just retired end of quarter 3.. At this point in life it sure looks different than in the accumulation years. Oddly enough my October paper loses equal exactly the dollar amount I will need to withdraw in 2019. When withdrawal time is way over the horizon a bad year is just a %. When three weeks equal a years worth of living $$$$$ that is something else .
  • Calendar Years Are Arbitrary
    To a large extent, I agree with you that 12 month periods are baked in as intuitively obvious. That said, I disagree that the 12 month period must be tied to a calendar year.
    When I look at one year performance, I'm looking at the past 12 months (e.g. 10/17/17 to 10/27/18), or maybe the past 12 full months of performance (9/30/17 to 9/30/18). For one year performance I'm certainly not going to ignore what's happened between January and October of this year (i.e. I don't look at 2017 data as a meaningful representation of how a fund did over the past year).
    There are even special cases for RMDs that get away from calendar years: you have a fifteen month period in which to take your first RMD (the year you turn 70.5 and up to April 1 of the next year); so you can also take two RMDs within a single calendar year. In addition, there was a calendar year in which no RMDs were required (2009).
    Further, for 401(k)s where the fiscal year doesn't match the calendar year, assuming no withdrawals have been made, the value of the account used to compute the RMD is the account value at the end of the fiscal year, not the value at end of the calendar year (Dec 31). Here's a page discussing this:
    https://www.irahelp.com/forum-post/21980-rmd-fiscal-year-based-profit-sharing-plan
    For performance comparison purposes, funds must use standardized periods. This is to prevent cherry picking. For example, they can't advertise their performance starting the day the market hit bottom. The use of calendar quarters for comparisons is indeed arbitrary, but the very arbitrariness of these dates means that no fund is benefited or disadvantaged by the choice of dates.
    Even here, the yearly periods are not calendar years; they cover twelve months through the end of the last quarter, not the last year. Yes, 12 month periods are baked in. No, figures are often not anchored on Jan 1, except YTD figures. And on Feb 25, does one really care about YTD?
    How to Read a Performance Advertisement that Describes a Mutual Fund’s Total Return
    https://davisfunds.com/downloads/04readingfndadv.pdf
  • Jonathan Clements: Ignore The Signs?
    Dunno how much it’s down. Don’t much care. But I’ll note here that percentages can be very misleading.
    Example A: If your portfolio fell by 25% in one year, you would actually need to gain more than 33% in the following year to “break-even” again.
    Example B: How many years in succession can your portfolio experience a 25% decline?
    Think 4? Actually, in hypothetical terms, it could fall by 25% per-year every year - forever.
    Are you feeling lucky?
  • Calendar Years Are Arbitrary
    The author makes a worthwhile point. The “YTD return” a lot of us focus on is based on an arbitrary 12-month Earth year beginning January 1st. I find YTD return a curiosity, but don’t get too bent out of shape when it’s negative. Viewing 3 or 4 successive years’ total returns together yields a better perspective. And when you get out to 10 years and beyond, total cumulative return (often viewed as a yearly average) becomes quite important.
    In a sense, we’re locked-in to paying attention to the 12-month calendar year. Not only is it the “language” most analysts and market observers communicate in, but there are some practical considerations. Foremost, Uncle Sam takes notice. He constructs your RMD (if over 70.5) so that distributions must be taken on a yearly basis. If you do a Roth conversion there’s normally a 5-year holding period before gains can be withdrawal penalty free. Income taxes are based on yearly income / gains & losses. In preparing a household budget, the 12-month year is easiest to work with. Some household expenses, like insurance premiums or newspaper subscriptions, come due on a yearly basis. College tuitions may be paid on a yearly or semi-yearly schedule. Expensive vacations (think: sun-belt) are best planned / funded according to the yearly calendar. And our automobiles become one model year older roughly every 12 months - affecting depreciation, resale value and insurance considerations.
    So in a nutshell, in terms of significance, YTD and 12-month calendar numbers are pretty baked in the cake and it’s entirely natural for Earthlings to take notice. If you inhabited Mars or one of Jupiter’s intriguing moons you would probably subscribe to some alternative way of viewing short term investment performance.
  • Calendar Years Are Arbitrary
    I read a thin volume years ago: "https://www.amazon.com/Lectures-Relativity-Charles-Proteus-Steinmetz/dp/1933998040
    It had me thinking that I almost had a handle on that stuff.
  • Calendar Years Are Arbitrary
    Blows my mind too. Sometimes, however, I come close to understanding Einstein’s view of gravity (somehow tied-in to the the theory of relativity) - but than it escapes me. As I understand his view of gravity, everything is traveling in a straight line (including orbiting planets). But because space itself is warped by the mass of large objects, objects like planets only appear to be moving in circular orbits.
    From a practical standpoint, would an equity position opened on Earth by an “Earthling” from his near-the-speed-of-light spacecraft appreciate in Earth years? If so, the traveler would be unimaginably wealthy once he eventually returned to earth - and still young enough to enjoy his new found wealth to the fullest. :)
  • The Closing Bell: Yesterday The Market Giveth : Today The Market Taketh Away
    FYI: The S&P 500 ended at -1.7% to 2658, after earlier falling nearly 3% and breaching the 2637.68 level that would place it 10% below its last record. That would put it in correction territory for the first time since February’s selloff.
    The Nasdaq Composite fell 2.0%, paring much of Thursday’s rebound and putting it down about 10% for the month, while the Dow Jones Industrial Average declined 1.1% to 24688. A close below 24145.55 would put the blue-chip index in correction territory.
    Markets around the world have been caught up in a whirlwind week marked by intraday drops and sharp rebounds. Worries about corporate revenue slowing and whether a slowdown in China and Europe growth could spill over into the U.S. economy have sent U.S. stocks into a tailspin, putting major indexes on course for their worst month in several years.
    The recent stampede by investors has erased about $5 trillion in value from global stock and bond markets in October alone. But that shouldn’t be severe enough to affect the economy, for now, according to economists at Deutsche Bank.
    Still, unless the markets regain their footing soon, the pressure for the Federal Reserve to reassess their monetary policy will continue to mount, they said.
    “Academic studies of the wealth effect find that households and companies don’t react to short-term fluctuations in their wealth but instead react to a moving average of where their wealth levels are,” said Torsten Slok, chief international economist at Deutsche Bank Securities, said in a note to clients.
    Regards,
    Ted
    Bloomberg Evening Briefing:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-26/your-evening-briefing
    Bloomberg:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-25/asia-stocks-set-to-rally-on-u-s-gains-bonds-slip-markets-wrap?srnd=premium
    WSJ:
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/global-stocks-resume-declines-1540541081
    MarketWatch:
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-stock-futures-under-pressure-after-amazon-google-disappoint-2018-10-26/print
    IBD:
    https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/stock-news-today-amazon-earnings-alphabet-earnings/
    Reuters:
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-stocks/wall-street-resumes-selloff-sp-flirts-with-correction-idUSKCN1N01JN
    CNBC:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/26/stock-market-us-futures-show-drop-for-dow.html
    U.K.:
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ftse-100-tumbles-to-near-2-year-low-as-global-stock-rout-resumes-2018-10-26/print
    Europe:
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/european-stock-markets-tumble-sharply-lower-to-end-an-ugly-week-2018-10-26/print
    Asia:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/26/asia-markets-wall-street-ecb-currencies-in-focus.html
    Bonds:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/26/us-bonds-treasury-prices-higher-amid-market-volatility.html
    Currencies:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/26/forex-markets-dollar-yen-stock-markets-in-focus.html
    Oil:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/26/oil-markets-saudi-arabia-crude-supply-in-focus.html
    Gold
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/26/gold-markets-stock-markets-ecb-in-focus.html
    WSJ: Markets At A Glance:
    https://markets.wsj.com/us
    Major ETFs % Change:
    https://www.barchart.com/etfs-funds/etf-monitor
    SPDR's Sector Tracker:
    http://www.sectorspdr.com/sectorspdr/tools/sector-tracker
    SPDR's Bloomberg Sector Performance Pie Chart:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/sectors
    Current Futures:
    https://finviz.com/futures.ashx
  • Calendar Years Are Arbitrary
    FYI: Investors use calendar years as a period of measurement. How did the market do last year? Most of us view our investment performance “year-to-date” meaning how the investments have changed in value since January 1. Advisors conduct annual (or quarterly) reviews comparing investment returns to benchmarks which are sometimes appropriate but often are not.
    Below are two lists of annual returns for a 60/40 portfolio that is hypothetically invested 60% in the S&P 500 Index and 40% in the Bloomberg Barclays U.S. Aggregate Bond Index. The author removed the calendar years on purpose. Take a look at the series of returns and try to imagine experiencing them in succession.
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://blairbellecurve.com/calendar-years-are-arbitrary/
  • M*: 3 Emerging-Markets Equity Funds That Have Handled Volatility Well: (NEWFX) - (PRMSX) - (ODMAX)
    Hi @bee: Years back I did at one time own ODMAX but sold it as I aged and got more conserative. Back then, I also owned NEWFX and retained it. Also, back then, my neutral allocation in the growth area of my portfolio was about 25% today it is 15%. In addition, years back I also owned DEMAX. These three funds comprised my emerging markets sleeve. Now, I am down to one emerging market fund NEWFX but thinking of adding DWGAX in the growth & income area of my portfolio in my global equity sleeve as it pays a quarterly dividend.
  • M*: 3 Emerging-Markets Equity Funds That Have Handled Volatility Well: (NEWFX) - (PRMSX) - (ODMAX)
    NEWFX is one of my three holdings found in my global growth sleeve. It has been a long term holding for me and one that I plan to continue to hold for a good number of years to come.
  • 2018 Dogs Of The Dow
    One of my mutual funds (FDSAX) invest about one third of its money in the Dogs of the Dow strategy (ten positions) and the other two thirds (twenty positions) using the same type strategy for picking stocks from the broader market omitting picks form the financial and utility sectors. I have owned this fund for a good number of years and feel it has served me well. It use to reset its portfolio in the fall of each year; but, in recently viewing its holdings I noticed portfolio changes now seem to be made more often.
  • M*: 3 Bond Funds You May Be Tempted To Buy But Shouldn't: (THOPX) - (NHMRX) - (LSFYX)
    For buy-and-hold investors, I don’t see the problem with THOPX. I owned it for a while, including its swoon a few years ago, but its returns over 1, 3, 5, 10 years have been excellent. I don’t understand why M* bashes funds like THOPX but continues to tout funds like MWTRX that have had miserable returns in recent years while becoming bloated with assets. Many so-called quality bond funds have gotten killed by rising interest rates and have seemingly done little or nothing to ease the pain for investors. As long as interest rates continue to rise, investors seeking quality apparently would be better served by ultrashort bond funds, money markets or CD ladders.
  • M*: 3 Bond Funds You May Be Tempted To Buy But Shouldn't: (THOPX) - (NHMRX) - (LSFYX)
    We have owned THOPX in the distant past and in recent years, missing it's period of poor performance by blind luck. It's performance of late has been outstanding. M* has long questioned the small team at Thompson and has expressed doubts but it's rare for them to issue a "shouldn't buy" warning. Anyone here consider this article actionable? Anyone have a replacement in mind? When I started building my position in THOPX it was because risk free options were yielding near zero. Now the yield here isn't so great compared to the zero risk choices. Something to think about.
  • RPSIX TRP "Spectrum" ?
    Good analysis by several. I like the ultra-short (TRBUX) mentioned above. Use it as a “cash equivalent” (Not all ultra-shorts are managed as well.). Yet, even over the shorter 5 year period, it lags RPSIX by about a point and a half. So, if willing to tolerate a little more volatility, investors would have been better off in RPSIX.
    Another income fund I own is DODIX. i’ve long allowed a smaller portion (no greater than 50%) to count as part of my “cash equivalent” holdings. Of course it’s not really cash - but for allocation purposes I’m willing to include it. DODIX has a longer history than TRBUX. So a 10 year comparison is possible. Here RPSIX still wins with a 6.28% return while DODIX netted 5.61%. Again - you need be willing to accept more volatility to reap the additional income with RPSIX.
    While I’m not “married” to TRP (borrowing Crash’s words), it’s my single largest fund manager and has 100% of my Traditiinal IRA. So, I’ll stick with the 15% allocation to RPSIX. We’ve known for 10 years that bonds would suffer when the emergency Fed easing slowed or stopped and rates normalized / rose. Nothing too startling here. Yes, the foreign securities have taken a toll on the fund. I thought PRELX a brilliant idea when introduced. Unlike most of their international / EM bond funds, Price does not hedge this one against currency fluxuations. So the strong dollar has really hurt it. I’ve owned it before but doubt I will again.