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  • John Waggoner: Morningstar: Advisers Are Overreacting To Fund Manager Changes
    Again, it really depends on the fund and how the management is structured and what strategy is being employed. But any significant management change should be noted and followed closely. Price funds have done an exceptional job of handling management changes over the years. Others often not so well. The "star" manager funds can be particularly difficult, as carew388 noted about Harbor International, although performance there in 2011 and 2012 remained in the top quartile. Last five years, however is only in 84th percentile. Perhaps a delayed reaction to a strategy change? Not sure, since I do not follow the fund any longer. Ted's comment about giving the new manager(s) time is spot on. Manager change should not be an automatic trigger to sell.
  • Vanguard's Global Wellesley Income and Global Wellington Funds in registration & prospectus
    Agreed, but does anyone know anything about the who are going to manage the equity portions of the funds- Nataliya Kofman for Wellington and Ian Link for Wellesley? They both seem to be managing funds registered in the UK. She seems to be managing a US focused Wellington fund in the UK that's only a year old and he's managing a global Wellington fund registered in the UK that's 5 years old. Obviously they've both been around Wellington for a decade and he has a lot more previous investment experience than she does, but she's getting the fund with the higher equity allocation. Does that mean they believe more in her than him? The fixed income managers are all straight from the US Wellington and Wellesley funds but it seems the equity side is a passing of the torch. Would anyone have concerns about that?
  • If The Stock Market Can Make You Rich, Why Are So Many Americans Poor?
    FYI: Over the years, I have regularly addressed the psychological and emotional pitfalls that ultimately lead individual investors to poor outcomes.
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/if-the-stock-market-can-make-you-rich-why-are-so-many-americans-poor-2017-07-26/print
  • John Waggoner: Morningstar: Advisers Are Overreacting To Fund Manager Changes
    Fund manager changes, especially lead managers and solo managers, should absolutely raise a red flag. There have been many instances where I can look back and say that I should have reacted to manager changes sooner. The fact that a fund is team managed should not change the importance of going back and seeing what that person's contributions were to the success of the fund during her/his tenure. Great example is IVAEX, where one of the team left in mid-2014. The fund had been struggling already that year, and it just got worse. Something was clearly not working with the fund's macro strategy, and the next year was even greater under-performance. In fact, the fund never recovered, and assets dropped from almost $13 billion to $1 billion at year-end 2016. Was the manager leaving the reason? No, but it simply was another sign that should have triggered a sale. We held until mid-2015, and fortunately were able to extract ourselves with some decent long-term gains for the most part. Should you sell every time a team manager leaves? No, but the event should mean a re-evaluation of the thesis for owning the fund and very close monitoring for a period of time thereafter.
    For solo managers, and fortunately there are fewer now than in the past, this event should absolute put any additional purchases on hold until an evaluation of the new manager is completed. This is difficult for individual investors, but fortunately we have access to fund managers and can interview them.
    Lesson learned over the years: funds that employ active macro and thematic strategies are very difficult to evaluate sometimes and can turn on a dime performance-wise. It's not that the managers have taken dumb pills, but rather their unusual approach can suddenly go out of favor in a big way. You really need to understand how the investment philosophy translates to day-to-day management and the many risks involved in the strategies. These funds should be kept on a short leash.
  • Investing According To Your Values Can Also Make You Money
    I'm thinking that most folks that post on the board are students of the markets and as such we are a cut above the average retail investor that does not watch the markets or monitor their accounts (except look through their statements). I'll bet many of them comment and ask themselves ... What the hell happen here? With this, we each have our own investment concepts. These different concepts, ideas, strategies and thought processes all factor into how we view the market and govern our investments. I have found, through the years, that is better to be on the front end of a trend than the back end of one (don't chase the market). For me, I enjoy a dance with my wife before the dance floor gets crowded. And, in investing, I enjoy being on the front end of a developing investment theme over jumping in after the crowd has arrived. And, yes I have left some money on the table by not riding the train (investment theme) to it's final station. Don't want to be the last one left that has to turn off the lights and close the place up. And, then wonder ... Where did everyone go?
    And, folks ... If you really enjoy following the markets and it brings true enjoyment to you why not? And, when profit is made that makes it even better. Currently, if I was going to put new money in play and I was short on small caps I'd be moving some money there and the same with value too as they both have been recent laggards. But, since I am currently fully allocated in these two areas it is back to watching and continue with my current theme and that is to increase my footprint in hybrid funds. After all, many hybrid funds hold some small caps, value stocks, along with foreign positions and other asset classes as well.
    Those that want to invest in ESG policy stocks and funds are welcome to do so by my thinking because if you are truly diverisified you probally own some of them too.
    And, so it goes ...
    Peace,
    Skeet
  • GLFOX Return of Capital
    It happened to me something close to 10 years ago and I didn't realize it until I looked at my 1099. It was in a taxable account where I had DCA'd into a fund (I can't remember which fund it was) and I wasn't sure how to adjust my basis because I've always specifically identified the shares/lots I want to sell. In the end I think I just pro-rated the adjustment across all shares.
  • Investing Lessons From Edward Thorp, Quant Pioneer And Card Counter
    - This quant pro and card counter says gambling can make you a better investor.
    Yes, absolutely. But be careful gambling. House generally wins.
    - Try to figure out what your skill set is and apply that to the markets.
    Love that line. So much petty nit-picking here from time to time about what one investor or the other is doing. I'd rather say: There's more than one way to skin a cat. Figure out your own game plan and than try to improve on it.
    - As most here probably know, Bill Gross was also a blackjack card counter before he managed money. While it's become fashionable in recent years to knock Ol' Bill, he remains one of the greats in my book.
    Great article @Ted
    Great post by @Flack as well
  • A 'big fall' in markets is coming as traders put record cash to work
    Need? I didn't infer that from the 90/10 rule. Just that 10% in cash/short term bonds is sufficient (according to Buffett) to protect against sequence risk.
    That leaves you free to invest the rest however you see fit subject to the constraint that it will outlast you. If you've got a 30 year horizon, and 27x annual cash flow to invest (after the first three years of cash), all you need do is match inflation (after taxes) to meet that objective.
    Equities should do better than that, but TIPS in a Roth would also suffice, as would a 50/50 mix (a la Bengen).
    If you've got less to invest, you can't take such a cavalier attitude toward allocation, but the 10% in cash/short term bonds still serves its role. I've been meaning to post a link to a sequence risk article - I'll start a separate thread for that.
  • A 'big fall' in markets is coming as traders put record cash to work
    >> I figure every day has a 50/50 chance of going up, or going down.
    ?
    And then you go on to say that actually this is not how you 'figure'. I mean, none of us does.
    Disregarding the subjective stuff ("sleep at night", selective memory, etc.) that people act upon, it's the objective statement that's suspect: "Historically there have been a lot more up days than down."
    Up days do dominate, but not by all that much, typically 55% give or take. Or just one extra up day per month of 20 trading days (11 up days, where 10 would be 50/50).
    https://www.crestmontresearch.com/docs/Stock-Yo-Yo.pdf
    I completely concur with keeping 3-5 years in cash/short term bonds, assuming one can afford the hit in a low interest rate environment. It is one of the safer, more "sleep at night" approaches.
  • Investing According To Your Values Can Also Make You Money
    @Jojo26
    The RBC study you referenced looks at the KLD 400 Index. According to MSCI, the index's owner: "The MSCI KLD 400 Social Index is maintained in two stages. First, securities of companies involved in Nuclear Power, Tobacco, Alcohol, Gambling, Military Weapons, Civilian Firearms, GMOs and Adult Entertainment are excluded." https://msci.com/documents/10199/904492e6-527e-4d64-9904-c710bf1533c6
    It is precisely such exclusionary screens for SRI funds I stated the research was neutral about, revealing that such exclusionary indexes/funds either match the market or lag it slightly. It is ESG rankings in which every sector is included but the worst ranked ESG companies are minimized or eliminated that there is strong corroborative evidence for. Since you didn't read the links I provided to the DB report, here is an important excerpt:
    The evidence is compelling: Sustainable Investing can be a clear win for investors and for companies. However, many SRI fund managers, who have tended to use exclusionary screens, have historically struggled to capture this. We believe that ESG analysis should be built into the investment processes of every serious investor, and into the corporate strategy of every company that cares about shareholder value. ESG best-in-class focused funds should be able to capture superior risk-adjusted returns if well executed.
    This is the key finding of our report in which we looked at more than 100 academic studies of sustainable investing around the world, and then closely examined and categorized 56 research papers, as well as 2 literature reviews and 4 meta studies – we believe this is one of the most comprehensive reviews of the literature ever undertaken.
    Frequently, Sustainable Investing is stated to yield ‘mixed results”. However, by breaking down our analysis into different categories (SRI, CSR, and ESG) we have identified exactly where in the sprawling, diverse universe of so-called Sustainable Investment, value has been found.
    By applying what we believe to be a unique methodology, we show that “Corporate Social Responsibility” (CSR) and most importantly, “Environmental, Social and Governance” (ESG) factors are correlated with superior risk-adjusted returns at a securities level. In conducting this analysis, it became evident that CSR has essentially evolved into ESG. At the same time, we are able to show that studies of fund performance – which have been classified “Socially Responsible Investing” (SRI) in the academic literature and have tended to rely on exclusionary screens – show SRI adds little upside, although it does not underperform either. Exclusion, in many senses, is essentially a values-based or ethical consideration for investors.
    We were surprised by the clarity of the results we uncovered:
    100% of the academic studies agree that companies with high ratings for CSR and ESG factors have a lower cost of capital in terms of debt (loans and bonds) and equity. In effect, the market recognizes that these companies are lower risk than other companies and rewards them accordingly. This finding alone should put the issue of Sustainability squarely into the office of the Chief Financial Officer, if not the board, of every company.
    89% of the studies we examined show that companies with high ratings for ESG factors exhibit market-based outperformance, while 85% of the studies show these types of company’s exhibit accounting-based outperformance. Here a gain, the market is showing correlation between financial performance of companies and what it perceives as advantageous ESG strategies, at least over the medium (3-5 years) to long term (5-10 years).
    The single most important of these factors, and the most looked at by academics to date, is Governance (G), with 20 studies focusing in on this component of ESG (relative to 10 studies focusing on E and 8 studies on S). In other words, any company that thinks it does not need to bother with improving its systems of corporate governance is, in effect, thumbing its nose at the market and hurting its own performance all at the same time. In the hierarchy of factors that count with investors and the markets in general, Environment is the next most important, followed closely by Social factors.
    Most importantly, when we turn to fund returns, it is notable that these are all clustered into the SRI category. Here, 88% of studies of actual SRI fund returns show neutral or mixed results. Looking at the compositions of the fund universes included in the academic studies we see a lot of exclusionary screens being used. However, that is not to say that SRI funds have generally underperformed. In other words, we have found that SRI fund managers have struggled to capture outperformance in the broad SRI category but they have, at least, not lost money in the attempt.
    These conclusions go a long way towards explaining why the concept of sustainable investing has taken so long to gain acceptance and even now inspires indifference and even cynicism among many investors. It has been too closely associated for too long with the SRI fund manager results which are not only an extremely broad category (i.e. in terms of investment mandate), but historically were based more on exclusionary – as opposed to positive or best-in-class – screening. ESG investing, by contrast, takes the best-in-class approach. By analyzing the various categories within the universe of sustainable investing, we can now say confidently that the ESG approach, at an analytical level, works for investors and for companies both in terms of cost of capital and corporate financial performance (on a market and accounting basis). It is now a question of ESG best-in-class funds capturing the available returns.
  • Money-Making Conclusions I've Come to After 30 Years of Investing in Funds By Tom Madell
    Hi @JohnN,
    Thanks for posting Dr. Madell's newsletter for the board's reading enjoyment. It is one that I have often read over the years and I have received good value from it's message. This issue is no different.
    Old_Skeet
  • A 'big fall' in markets is coming as traders put record cash to work
    I figure every day has a 50/50 chance of going up, or going down. Historically there have been a lot more up days than down. We are wired to remember the down days and "forget" the good days. So the moral (IMHO) is to create an allocation that allows you to sleep at night, knowing there will be some down days and some just plain awful days, in addition to the great days. Timing these things is impossible. Be sure you have any cash needs for 3-5 years from the portfolio held in cash or short-term bonds. Yes, it may be "fun" to look at the accounts every day, but it really doesn't matter. Make changes along the way when really needed, and try to keep expenses as low as is practical. Don't think you will find a magic bullet, and don't spend too much time trying to find the perfect manager. Don't be afraid to index, especially in domestic stocks. Get a life if you don't have one. These are probably over-simplified, but they have worked for me...when I adhere to them.
  • Amazon Does It Again. Sears Up. Home Depot and Lowes Down
    @Maurice,
    Since Ford is a major shareholder of Mazda, they used Marza 's small engines due to Ford's reliability issues with small displacement engines. Mazda 323 engine is still used today's Escort and few other compact cars. Today vast majority of foreign cars are assembled in US with foreign parts, except for few low volume and higher price point German cars. Some American cars are assembled in Mexico and has been that ways for years. The boundary between domestic and foreign cars (or other products including cell phones) does nor really exist anymore.
  • Money-Making Conclusions I've Come to After 30 Years of Investing in Funds By Tom Madell
    http://funds-newsletter.com/aug17-newsletter/aug17.htm
    Unless there are no generalizations that one can make about fund/ETF investing, over 30 years of experience should yield some highly worthwhile conclusions.
    In this article, I try to extract some of the most important ones that have been highly successful for me, while suggesting choices that might be avoided.
    Of course, many strategies for getting the best long-term returns are almost universally understood, but here I try to elaborate on those that likely aren't common knowledge.
  • Investing According To Your Values Can Also Make You Money
    There absolutely has been strong evidence for many years:
    https://db.com/cr/en/docs/Sustainable_Investing_2012.pdf
    This is specifically for the model I'm describing of ranking by ESG factors not exclusionary screens of entire sectors. There is a ton of supporting evidence for ranking by ESG factors.
    Anybody can data mine evidence to support their camp. And back tests don't tell me anything or give me any confidence that this will be effective moving forward.
    RBC has a piece that supports ESG/SRI, but at least they still point to the lack of evidence it outperforms.
    "This has also been illustrated in an updated study by di Bartolomeo and Kurtz (2011). Performing a holdings-based attribution analysis using the North eld U.S. Fundamental Equity Risk Model, they examined the risk and return characteristics of the S&P 500 Index and the KLD 400 Index for an 18-year period between January 1992 and June 2010. Within the total 18-year period, 2 sub-periods were also analyzed: January 1992-November 1999, and December 1999-June 2010. The KLD 400 outperformed the S&P 500 during January 1992-November 1999, but underperformed during the latter period. Di Bartolomeo and Kurtz concluded that the strong performance in the 1990s was entirely factor driven, during which time the KLD 400 Index had a higher market beta, bets on higher valuation, and an overweight position in the Information Technology sector (i.e., growth stocks). The underperformance following the 1999 peak
    was said to be due to an over reliance on the same factors."
  • Investing According To Your Values Can Also Make You Money
    What's interesting and not many people understand is there are two important kinds of socially responsible investing. In one version, many call the old model, certain sectors are completely excluded from the portfolio--oil, weapons, tobacco, etc. These are so-called exclusionary screens. In another kind every sector is included, but the fund ranks the stocks in each sector on ESG criteria and chooses only those that rank the highest while excluding the lowest. So for instance oil companies will still be in the portfolio but only those that rank the highest in ESG.
    The former older exclusionary model studies have shown can match the market or slightly lags it. The latter model which ranks on ESG actually has outperformed the market over time. Companies that do good do well performance-wise. However, there is another step that I think can take an ESG oriented fund to the the next level. If a socially responsible fund is going to for instance own oil companies, it should I believe also engage with corporate management to improve its ESG record, voting for shareholder proposals that would force oil companies to disclose more of their climate risks. It should even file proposals itself. This would be in accord with the values of most of the shareholders who buy socially responsible funds. I think divestment as many universities do actually is less of an socially responsible approach than shareholder engagement. Challenge CEOs to do better. The market actually rewards them for doing so.
    @LewisBraham: This is not always so, though I see the case you're making. Over the years, I've come across shareholder petitions from Orders of nuns to promote one thing or another, and Management ignores them. (...Because...? No one else gives a shit?) Interaction by shareholders with Management in order to lobby for more socially responsible policies on the part of the company might work, sometimes. Yet several denominations have finally chosen to divest from companies making money in connection with the continued Israeli occupation of Palestine. HP, Caterpillar, Motorola, just to name a few. Because Management simply ignored the questions and petitions, offered from within the company structure. Boycotts and divestment are always a last resort. But they have been resorted to. Everyone knows about the Montgomery, Alabama bus boycott...
  • Investing According To Your Values Can Also Make You Money
    @JoJo26
    There is no strong evidence that supports ESG outperforming.
    There absolutely has been strong evidence for many years:
    https://db.com/cr/en/docs/Sustainable_Investing_2012.pdf
    This is specifically for the model I'm describing of ranking by ESG factors not exclusionary screens of entire sectors. There is a ton of supporting evidence for ranking by ESG factors.
  • Investing According To Your Values Can Also Make You Money
    @Maurice
    If investments were truly socially responsible, then they wouldn't invest in anything related to capitalism. Therefore the only thing left to invest in is government. But no profits, dividends or capital gains there.
    I believe Treasury bonds, savings bonds and municipal bonds are all investments in the government and have managed to generate returns for investors for many years.
  • A 'big fall' in markets is coming as traders put record cash to work
    Thanks DavidV. Despite a hyped-up overly sensational title, this actually makes for pretty good reading. Couple of excerpts:
    "... active equity funds just absorbed their biggest inflows in 2 1/2 years, according to BAML. This is a sign of confidence not just for the market, but for fund managers that make their living picking stocks. It's a rare bright spot for active management, which has struggled alongside the rise of the red-hot ETF industry."
    "... Institutional investors are also holding the lowest levels of cash since the start of the eight-year bull market, survey data compiled by Citigroup show. The measure now sits at less than one-third of a multi-year high reached in 2016."
    The first quote seems to explain (at least partially) the fact that S&P ETFs are seeing steady outflows (see other thread). Looks like maybe some of that is going into actively managed funds.
    I'm a bit perplexed re the second quote. Are MFs counted as institutional investors? In that case, there would seem to be a contradiction, as just about every actively managed fund I own has been raising cash over the past 3-6 months. (Of course, T. Rowe could be the exception.)
    Good article. Just touched on a couple things that stood out to me.
  • Fund Manager #@$%*! Fired as Trump's Communications Director

    His reboot of 'WSW' was/is a joke and a far cry from Uncle Louis' content and PBS' quality. I saw one episode and barely made it through the whole thing.
    As to Mooch himself, I remember seeing him as a regular on CNBC over the years .... he comes across to me as a stereotypical hedge-fund-bro -- slickly coiffed, perfectly-manicured, projecting overconfidence and a smooth/fast-talking Manhattaner. He may be what POTUS wants to have representing him now, but in terms of providing information to the public, I don't think I'll trust him farther than I can throw him. However, I'm sure to those the WH is trying to mollify (ie, its base) he's perfect, b/c he is a "made man" and "exudes wealth and success" which is what POTUS is all about -- ie, he's more concerned w/optics, appearances, and ratings than anything else.