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I've become more cautious about hedge fund conversions as a result; my experience is that those often end up as being okay funds but mostly shadows of their former selves. Why? Rekenthaler made a good argument this month: hedge fund conversions are cherry-picked and we don't know anything about the rest of the crop. A hedge fund manager might have 10 funds, nine of which smell like the beach at low tide and one of which has had (maybe, "has lucked into") eye-popping results. The existence of the nine dogs doesn't have to be disclosed so we falsely assume that the one winner is representative of the managers' skills. While that's not always the case - that is, some hedge fund conversions produce reputable mutual funds - it's something that we need to approach with skepticism.The general problem is that Mr. Pickett has been skeptical about the US market for much of the decade, has maintained about as many short as long positions (bad idea in a rising market) and has been repeatedly wrong in security selection. None of which I would have predicted. Indeed, none of which I did predict.
For the love of. ....!!!!Gambling is not a word I want associated with my retirement portfolio.
"Would MFO exists if everyone indexed?"....I wish someone would have forum posted me senseless years ago about the virtues of indexing. It would have made me a lot more money.
I respect your right to invest as you see fit with your money.
I agree with you. At least since the market bottom in early 2009 I have seen scant evidence MFOers have beaten a buy and hold in the Vanguard S&P 500 fund. Or for that matter come remotely close. Lots of international and emerging market investing and love for cash rich funds as well as alternative funds. The latter out of fears of another 2008.
Edit; Yes, I know it has been a relentless move up the past 8 years and 8 years may not be a long enough period to make any kind of judgement. But I know countless passive investors who are now set for life thanks to those 8 years. And isn't that what it is all about??
I agree with you. At least since the market bottom in early 2009 I have seen scant evidence MFOers have beaten a buy and hold in the Vanguard S&P 500 fund. Or for that matter come remotely close. Lots of international and emerging market investing and love for cash rich funds as well as alternative funds. The latter out of fears of another 2008.Gambling is not a word I want associated with my retirement portfolio.
"Would MFO exists if everyone indexed?"....I wish someone would have forum posted me senseless years ago about the virtues of indexing. It would have made me a lot more money.
I respect your right to invest as you see fit with your money.
Yes and just look at Japan's stock index it still has not gotten back to 39,000.The thing these kinds of essays fail to acknowledge is how short in terms of human history 100 years is.
If it got your attention just 8-9 years ago, you may have wondered about the ticker. Manning & Napier funds were called Exeter funds until Sept. 26, 2006.EXTAX (Manning & Napier Tax Managed) was first suggested by board members and also favorably mentioned by Professor Snowball perhaps 8-9 years ago. ... (Apparently that fund no longer exists).
(I'm confident Shadow posted this at the time; now it was just easier to fetch the filing directly.)The Board of Directors of the Manning & Napier Fund, Inc. (the “Fund”) has voted to terminate the offering of shares of the Tax Managed Series (the “Series”) ... Accordingly, ...The Series will redeem all of its outstanding shares on or about February 1, 2017
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