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  • David Snowball's August Commentary
    Is it really the year 2105? Did we really jump 90 years overnight? :)
    Thanks for the keen eyes!
    That's my fault. I've fixed the title, but can't change the link, now. *sigh*
  • gold on sale
    Whenever I see posts or articles discusing returns from the opening of a fund or stock to the present time which show outstanding returns I have to smile. Sure, there are some that have held the same investnents for decades, but the vast portion belong to the church of whats working now and get out when the market falls and get back in much higher than when they sold. It is very difficult to hang on to an investment when it has years of underperformance. I am guilty of it too. Having sold GLD after I saw it drop 20% from my costbasis. I did not see the silver lining of holding it anymore. I have also sold stocks in favor of others, but I generally hold on to my funds unless I exchange out for one I like better, but its seldom. I will not be rebuying any gold in the future, even recently sold some gold coins and sets I inherited. Cash or st bonds even at these anemic interest rates will at least hold its value as long as inflation is low.
  • David Snowball's August Commentary
    Thanks for the notes @hank
    Per the "(on balanced funds) "... I am increasingly concerned that the three usual asset classes of equities, fixed income, and cash, will not necessarily work in a complementary manner to reduce risk."
    Many economies and policies still doing the fight from years ago. Central banks are doing what they feel is needed, but; yes the markets are perverted by many factors.
    Not sure about the "risk" part; but the "return" thought is reflected through this year, at this point in time.
    Not more than 2 years ago, one could find a balance to an equity portfolio portion if it went south for awhile; as support could usually be found from investment grade bonds and related.
    Not the case this year, eh?
    Hey, I gotta get outside for work before the evening storms arrive.
    Take care,
    Catch
  • David Snowball's August Commentary
    Is it really the year 2105? Did we really jump 90 years overnight? :)
  • Gold: Is It Really Likely To Hit $5,000 An Ounce?
    I am confident gold will hit 5k an oz though I do not expect to be alive when that happens. Hopefully I will be around for gold at 2k which may happen within 8-10 years. This is NOT a prediction. I am actually planning to buy gold at $1050 and then average down bu not up from that level.Reason for 1050 is the large number who will buy at 1000.
  • gold on sale
    The math:
    You could have purchased gold for around $150 an ounce during the 1975-1977 period (after which the price rose sharply). Today's price is close to $1100. Over a 40 year period (1975-present) that equates to around a 5% annually compounded return.*
    Historical gold prices http://www.nma.org/pdf/gold/his_gold_prices.pdf
    It would have been better to purchase gold prior to 1975 when the price (artificially set) remained around $35 an ounce for many years. Unfortunately, U.S. law prohibited private citizens from owning gold except in smaller quantities in the form of jewelry.
    The Gold Reserve Act (1934) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Reserve_Act
    ---
    *(interest compounded yearly - added at the end of each year)
    Year Year Interest Total Interest Balance
    1 $7.50 $7.50 $157.50
    2 $7.88 $15.38 $165.38
    3 $8.27 $23.64 $173.64
    4 $8.68 $32.33 $182.33
    5 $9.12 $41.44 $191.44
    6 $9.57 $51.01 $201.01
    7 $10.05 $61.07 $211.07
    8 $10.55 $71.62 $221.62
    9 $11.08 $82.70 $232.70
    10 $11.63 $94.33 $244.33
    11 $12.22 $106.55 $256.55
    12 $12.83 $119.38 $269.38
    13 $13.47 $132.85 $282.85
    14 $14.14 $146.99 $296.99
    15 $14.85 $161.84 $311.84
    16 $15.59 $177.43 $327.43
    17 $16.37 $193.80 $343.80
    18 $17.19 $210.99 $360.99
    19 $18.05 $229.04 $379.04
    20 $18.95 $247.99 $397.99
    21 $19.90 $267.89 $417.89
    22 $20.89 $288.79 $438.79
    23 $21.94 $310.73 $460.73
    24 $23.04 $333.76 $483.76
    25 $24.19 $357.95 $507.95
    26 $25.40 $383.35 $533.35
    27 $26.67 $410.02 $560.02
    28 $28.00 $438.02 $588.02
    29 $29.40 $467.42 $617.42
    30 $30.87 $498.29 $648.29
    31 $32.41 $530.71 $680.71
    32 $34.04 $564.74 $714.74
    33 $35.74 $600.48 $750.48
    34 $37.52 $638.00 $788.00
    35 $39.40 $677.40 $827.40
    36 $41.37 $718.77 $868.77
    37 $43.44 $762.21 $912.21
    38 $45.61 $807.82 $957.82
    39 $47.89 $855.71 $1,005.71
    40 $50.29 $906.00 $1,056.00
    Standard CalculationBase amount: $150.00
    Interest Rate: 5%
    Effective Annual Rate: 5%
    Calculation period: 40 years
    From "The Calculator Site" http://www.thecalculatorsite.com/finance/calculators/compoundinterestcalculator.php
  • Nathan's Famous Hot Dogs and RSIVX
    HomeFed issued $150 million in senior notes that mature in three years, with a coupon of 6.50%. The company chose not to pay for a rating. The money was used to buy a 1,400 acre property known as Otay Ranch, which according to Sherman was “contiguous to property HomeFed already owned.
    That would be a tad over $107,000 / acre. It must be a Wall St. property !!!! ??? (California)5300 acre development.
    Derf
  • Japan and Europe Funds Continue To Rake Assets
    Thesis for Continuation of Those and Other Current Trends
    By Tom Stevenson4:44PM BST 01 Aug 2015
    Tom Stevenson is an investment director at Fidelity Worldwide Investment. The views expressed are his own. He tweets at @tomstevenson63.
    Excerpts from http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11778011/Commodities-rout-brings-global-winners-and-losers.html
    Commodities rout brings global winners and losers
    The sell-off in commodities is terrible news for emerging market countries which depend on high resource prices
    The commodity slump is important because, unlike the Greek debt negotiations and Shanghai’s bursting equity bubble, its impact is felt throughout the global economy. Greece is a rounding error in worldwide terms while the Chinese stock market remains largely sealed off from the rest of the world. Last month’s slide in oil, industrial metals and agriculture speaks to a broader concern – that the long slow recovery from the financial crisis is far from secure.
    Although the past month has seen an acceleration of the slide in commodity prices, it is actually part of a secular shift that may have barely begun. Commodities boomed for a decade from 2001. It is unrealistic to expect the correction to be over in just four years. This is good for some countries, sectors and asset classes and catastrophic for others. No wonder Janet Yellen is leaving her options open.
    Companies are belatedly acknowledging that they face a prolonged downturn in prices and they are finally facing up to the consequences.
    That’s bad news for commodity producers and companies dependent on investment in the sector. It’s also terrible news for emerging market countries whose economies and current accounts depend on high resource prices. Between the mid-1970s and the mid-1990s, inflation-adjusted earnings for basic resources, industrials, chemicals, oil services and machinery companies went nowhere. It is hard to see why this pattern should not be repeated.
    But for the commodity consuming parts of the economy, a slide in the cost of resources is just another tail-wind to add to falling unemployment, rising wages and persistently low inflation. This is why the US stock market trades at a premium to the rest of the world and why resource-hungry Japan continues to look so interesting.
    For many companies and individuals, reduced input prices and lower transport and heating costs are a positive that will keep a lid on inflation and give the central banks on both sides of the Atlantic pause for thought. It’s not too late to get on the right side of this trade.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11778011/Commodities-rout-brings-global-winners-and-losers.html
  • Time for Name the Fund
    "M* don't like. It will never admit it, while it keeps currying favor with other managers whose funds never "recovered" (sic)."
    M* didn't like this fund when it covered it (aside from one later report, it stopped covering the fund in the mid 2000s, just like its "spinoff" and probably its other peers).
    This fund has recovered its losses from its 2000 peak, but M* never praised this fund. Rather, M* continues to praise other funds (not necessarily its peers) that didn't recover from the bust at the turn of the millennium.
    "Investors who listened to M* would have generally fared badly."
    The vast majority of this fund's peers have vanished. M* continually panned the group of funds as a whole, so generally one would have done well by heeding M*'s advice.
    But this fund fared moderately well, so one would have done better holding on and ignoring M* for this specific fund.
    "10K at inception, VFINX : 41K, FUND : 137 K"
    See graph for growth of $10K. VF set chart at "maximum", and moused over to get the final (current) values of VFINX and this fund as of the posting date.
    "M* would start dissing the fund at end of 2000"
    M* started coverage in 1999, and never wrote a positive report (though some were nuanced). The mid 2000 report said that one could do better by purchasing a peer fund.
    The late 2000 report (apparently the one VF is using as the first "dissing") said that the fund was positioning itself somewhat defensively (not a bad idea for late 2000), while acknowledging that the fund still lost as much as its average peer. Being defensively positioned, it should have fared better.
    "At this time [late 2001] M* is all over this fund."
    The late 2001 report said that the fund had blown away its peers by virtue of its defensive positioning (losing a lot less), but if the market turned up, that could reverse. M* advised avoiding the fund - it was no longer focused on its objective (hard to fit into a portfolio), heavily concentrated (high risk), and had recently changed management (favorable short term performance may not be meaningful).
    "Last 5 Years, VFINX marginally higher than fund
    Last 3 Years, VFINX marginally lower than fund
    "
    Over the past five years, this unnamed fund has slightly underperformed the S&P 500; over the last three, it has done a smidge better than the S&P 500. (Didn't I just write this before?)
  • gold on sale
    Since we're cherry picking data, holding PRPFX since 2000 would have yielded 7.7% CAGR vs 4.3% for SPY. Better sharpe, half the volatility and draw down as well.
    Holding GLD since its inception has a slightly better return than SPY with roughly the same draw down and volatility.
    So it can and does diversify, IMO.
    clacy, but it wasn't until PRPFX had such a great run that it became a board favorite. It's five year annualized return isn't anything to crow about either. I would wager most here succumbed to all the incessant articulate ramblings about the fund in the past five years. Just go back to 2011 in the MFO board archives on PRPFX.
  • gold on sale
    Well Maurice, I am one of those posters. I don't feel a need to do weekly posts to promote holding AU. Nor do I ponder/fret what to do about it day-to-day. So you needn't fret about why you haven't seen such posts...
    I continue to hold my position in AU bullion (all of which I self-custody). And it makes a wonderful diversifier. --- A diversifier does not mean "go up all the time". AU had a VERY LONG up-market; several down-years is nothing too unusual. -- After all, equities, after topping in 2000, took a decade to reach new highs. Assets come/go out of favor. AU excelled when stocks did nothing. AU has foundered the past few years as stocks have climbed. Definitionally,that IS diversification. Breaks in the price of AU below $1K would commence my accumulating. (If I had NO AU position, I'd probably commence SLOW accumulation here --- as the GDX/GDXJ suggests possible capitulation in those securities).
    I do find from time-to-time, what I will call "gold haters" post on investment message boards, why, I do not know. Energy stocks are down sharply since Nov. EM-stocks too. Is it your contention that asset are only attractive for purchase/holding if they are at/near all-time highs..? --- I generally go about deploying capital the other way: buy/accumulate when prices are down. Maybe different strokes for different folks...?
    In the past month I have initiated and expanded new positions in MLPs and EM, as those have encountered price weakness, but IMO represent real longer-term value. Will probably commence accumulating shares in Aug-Nov in quality energy producers -- my thesis being the quality producers (XOM, CVX, COP, OXY, EOG) will recover -- primarily because I suspect circumstances will eventually drive WTI higher. I don't claim to know when, but $45/WTI is not conducive to producers -- so producers will (voluntarily or otherwise) curtail production, and that will "solve" the problem of low WTI (just as happened in earlier cycles).
  • Time for Name the Fund
    Well that's a blast from the past.
    The best known of the early managers went off to form his own competing fund that cratered even worse. Like the fund he left, this "spinoff" did marginally worse than VFINX over the past five years, but a smidgeon better over the past three. This original manager was a media darling at the time he left.
  • Time for Name the Fund
    This is easy. M* don't like. It will never admit it, while it keeps currying favor with other managers whose funds never "recovered" (sic). Investors who listened to M* would have generally fared badly. The performance numbers are from M* as of right now.
    10K at inception, VFINX : 41K, FUND : 137 K
    M* would start dissing the fund at end of 2000
    10K on 12/31/2000, VFINX : 20.8K, FUND : 28.4K
    10K on 12/31/2001, VFINX : 23,4K, FUND : 31K
    At this time M* is all over this fund.
    10K on 12/31/2002, VFINX : 30.4K, FUND : 41K
    Need I go on?
    Last 10 years, VFINX : 20K, FUND : 28 K
    Last 5 Years, VFINX marginally higher than fund
    Last 3 Years, VFINX marginally lower than fund
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  • The Worst Mutual Fund In The World
    too lazy to check whether the Steadman funds still exist (obviously not under the same name !0+ years since this link
    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2002-04-14/business/0204130137_1_steadman-funds-account-activity
  • Which Top Small-Cap Mutual Funds Accept New Investors?
    You're right - I scrolled down too far in the prospectus before cutting and pasting - Driehaus did this "prepending" with a number of funds. For DMCRX, it prepended Driehaus Micro Cap Fund, L.P. - hope I got it right this time. The prospectus also says that in addition to DMCRX succeeding this LP fund, it also took in the assets from Driehaus Institutional Micro Cap Fund, L.P. (That was essentially a clone.)
    What happens when a a company in the portfolio grows (or shrinks, for that matter) out of a fund's target cap size depends on the fund. Some funds say that they will continue holding the stock so long as it looks like a good position. This can result in modest style drift. Funds with more rigid sell policies will likely have higher turnover but better style purity.
    It sounds like DMCRX will (or at least is allowed to) keep companies even if they grow out of microcap range. The prospectus says: "For purposes of the Fund, the investment adviser currently considers a company to be a micro-cap company if it is within the same market capitalization range at the time of investment as those included in the Russell Microcap® Growth Index. "
    Style drift of individual stocks is also an issue with index funds. What index companies (like MSCI) have done over the past several years is build "buffer zones", so that a company is not automatically thrown out of an index just because it becomes too large, or too growthy, or too whatever. The company may be given some time before getting kicked out, in case this cap change is temporary. Or a stock may be kicked out only after the company changes its cap size by a lot (i.e. not just going a little over the line). These ways index funds don't turn over as much.
  • Worst year since 2008?
    Re: "Now if that's skill or luck?"
    I always attribute my good years to skill and my off years to bad luck. :)
    If you trade a lot, skill has much to do with returns. Kudos to those who do it successfully.
    If you are more of a passive allocation type investor, much of your year-to-year success depends on the whims of the various markets, and to some extent, the skill of the managers you have hired to manage that allocation. For example, your bond fund manager may have a premonition of impending doom and position the fund on the short side. That won't eliminate losses completely, but will provide superior returns to a manager who kept maturities long.
    Just my 2 cents.
  • T.Maddell monthly MF newsletter
    Data mining at it's best ?
    Had one invested in my 2000, 2003, 2006, 2009, and 2012 Model Stock Portfolios and held them for the 3 following years, one would have outperformed a portfolio of low cost index funds by an amount approaching 3% per year. This, I would argue, is a record that would have been hard to beat by merely trying to figure out the fund sectors with the current fastest growth.
    What would be his return if he started investing in 1999 ?
    Derf
  • Which Top Small-Cap Mutual Funds Accept New Investors?
    A top performing small cap may not always be one. A fund comes to mind a few years ago I had RYPRX. It was closed and became too large. They are now mid cap.