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  • New Retiree question. Use more than one retail brokerage for whatever reason ???
    @gman57 "Haven't been to a brick and mortar bank/brokerage in 20, maybe 30,40 years that I can remember."
    Are you printing your cash needs?
  • New Retiree question. Use more than one retail brokerage for whatever reason ???
    Consolidated everything at Vanguard except one small HSA at Fidelity since VG didn't have an HSA choice at the time I opened it. Haven't been to a brick and mortar bank/brokerage in 20, maybe 30,40 years that I can remember. Although I have no complaints with Vanguard if I had to do over knowing what I know now I'd pick Fidelity as they have better financial tools.
  • New Retiree question. Use more than one retail brokerage for whatever reason ???
    @Crash, I do recurring transfers at Schwab. I just checked Fido too and under Transfers, it also offers recurring transfers.
    Unfortunately, Schwab doesn't offer m-mkt fund as core, so money have to be shifted as T+1. Fido offers SPAXX as core, Vanguard VMFXX as core.
    @Sven, those 3-way calls are standard for transfers/rollovers from 401k/403b. But IRA transfers/rollovers don't require them and the target broker can take care of all of the paperwork - and there has been some stories about fraudulent transfers.
    I have multiple brokerage a/c - Schwab, Fido, Vanguard. Among these, I like Vanguard the least. In fact, I was quite happy with Vanguard mutual fund only account, but a few years ago, it forced me to change to brokerage.
    Fido and Schwab compare well, both have physical offices nearby.
    Each brokerage has some aspects that you can complain about, but things are vastly better than before the discount brokerage revolution was launched by Charles Schwab (yes, the same old fellow that you may see on TV). I had BAD experiences in that old era too. US brokerages are also much better than those overseas.
  • New Retiree question. Use more than one retail brokerage for whatever reason ???
    We have been Fidelity and Vanguard customers since the 90’s. Both firms were my 401(K) administrators with different jobs we had. Two years ago, we consolidated most of our Vanguard’s IRA accounts to Fidelity for ease of management. While Vanguard offers many low cost index funds and ETFs, we prefer Fidelity since it has many more financial planning tools than that of Vanguard. Don’t think any large brokerage is perfect, but Fidelity able to meet 90% of our needs. Although we are not their Wealth Management client, there is a private number that you can call them directly.
    We rollover our 401(K) to Fidelity. They make the 3-way phone call arrangement ahead of time, where the process is completed over the phone. The rollover took about 5-7 business days to complete, and Fidelity will keep you informed along the way.
  • 2025 Yearend Tax Moves Under OBBBA from Kitces
    As usual, the analysis on the Kitces site is outstanding. I spot checked a few areas that I'm focused on this year or have been in the past and the subtleties and calculations are presented with great clarity.
    I've exercised options in that past and looked for the statement that paying AMT is often a timing issue - you're paying taxes now instead of down the road when you sell your stock - but you're not paying more.
    It's worth remembering that paying AMT on an ISO exercise creates an AMT credit, which can offset regular tax in future years to the extent that the taxpayer's regular tax exceeds AMT. For clients who receive ISO grants only sporadically or on a one-time basis, paying AMT in one year isn't necessarily a problem if they'll eventually recover it through the AMT credit.
    I'm in the process of helping a non-married taxpayer decide on the size of their 2025 Roth conversion. Someone below RMD age who won't need the RMD amounts later. So converting more now is better.
    The column notes that with the phaseout of the $6K senior credit, tax brackets for singles get multiplied by 1.06 (until fully phased out). A 22% bracket becomes a 23.32% bracket (6% higher). That's still better than edging into the 24% bracket in the future. But for couples, the multiplier is 1.12, so the 22% bracket becomes a 24.64%. For couples it might be better to just keep the T-IRA money and pay 24% on it later.
    Lots of moving parts. I've included the multiplier effect table from the Kitces site column for various phaseouts:
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    https://www.kitces.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/03-Magnifying-Effect-Of-OBBBA-Deduction-Phaseouts-On-Marginal-Tax-Rates-2000x1062.png
    Then there's the elimination of energy efficient home improvement credits. Trigger warning - here's where we get into politics. I expect to be able to wait until tax credits are revived. We try to keep our place set at 76° - 78° so we haven't been taxing our HVAC as severely as some of our neighbors who recently replaced their units (with obsolete 2024 models that use an old, high Global Warming Potential coolant :-()
    Given that COP30 was another disappointment, and climate change related damage is increasing rapidly in the US, we may see those tax credits revived sooner rather than later.
    https://abcnews.go.com/International/cop30-delegates-agree-minute-deal-falls-short-expectations/story?id=127785289
    https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/billions/state-summary/US
    (There are no updates from NOAA after 2024 to "align[] with evolving priorities, statutory mandates, and staffing changes".)
  • The Week in Charts | Charlie Bilello
    Hi @Observant1 Thank you again for keeping this thread updated. I pass the 'Week in Charts' along to a few folks; mostly in the aspect for continued learning. The presented information and discussion is good knowledge for seasoned investors; and moreso important for beginners to 'learn' more about the words and terminology of the investing world. Over many years, the words of investing is what I've 'pushed' towards the beginners. Yes, they need to form an interest; but to treat the 'investment words' as learning about any new topic or subject in which to become more familiar and comfortable.
    Remain curious,
    Catch
  • This Day in Markets History
    From Markets A.M. newsletter by Spencer Jakab.
    On this day in 1985, the S&P 500 closed above 200 for the first time, finishing the day at 201.41.
    It had taken the index more than 17 years to double.
  • Vanguard Launches Three New Active Equity ETFs
    Very weird, about VDIG having an ER of .40 with, as the announcement states ,having the same managers and essentially the same strategy as VDIGX which has an ER of .22. Have owned it for 20 years but will be sold this year because of large off selling and large capital gains as a result. Am considering adding to DGRW or venturing into VIG or DGRO after due diligence.
  • Sentiment & market Indicators, 11/19/25
    @hank: Wow. Did the markets turn on a dime today. We’ll see if it lasts.
    Um....the markets are in a bipolar state, tending toward nonsense. Stunning shift in attitude today.

    Agree. And I think it’s overly-simplistic and non-productive as an investor to attribute market behavior to any single individual whether you love or loath him. Honestly, is this how people invest today? Based on their view of the political leadership?
    My sense is many markets have been
    expensive (the nice term for overvalued) for many years (and still are). Depending on one’s time horizon it may or may not be appropriate to own various assets. But to attribute everything to a single individual or party? No. Neither Democrats nor Republicans have control of the economy. Why pretend one party does? Herbert Hoover did not cause the Great Depression and Franklin Roosevelt did not end it (but ramping up for war in Europe had a lot to do with ending it.) Economies have a mind of their own.
    End of rant.
    Post of the year @Hank. Thanks for your cogent comments.
  • Sentiment & market Indicators, 11/19/25
    @hank: Wow. Did the markets turn on a dime today. We’ll see if it lasts.
    Um....the markets are in a bipolar state, tending toward nonsense. Stunning shift in attitude today.
    Agree. And I think it’s overly-simplistic and non-productive as an investor to attribute market behavior to any single individual whether you love or loath him. Honestly, is this how people invest today? Based on their view of the political leadership?
    My sense is many markets have been expensive (the nice term for overvalued) for many years (and still are). Depending on one’s time horizon it may or may not be appropriate to own various assets. But to attribute everything to a single individual or party? No. Neither Democrats nor Republicans have control of the economy. Why pretend one party does? Herbert Hoover did not cause the Great Depression and Franklin Roosevelt did not end it (but ramping up for war in Europe had a lot to do with ending it.) Economies have a mind of their own.
    End of rant.
  • Gina Raimondo on Trump tariffs
    It never made sense in the same universe as re-shoring or reducing the trade deficit. For anything like that to happen, many, very high tariffs would need to remain in place for several years, minimum.
    But, when looking for excuses, these folks (most folks) are very adept. The first thing they ever learned, and they have had a lot of practice.
  • vanguard 351 exchange
    having read a bit more, it seems all the heavy administrative lifting is done by the companies that provide the etf. it is a relative minor issue whether vanguard will custody the etf . am seeing lower entry requirements than in 2024.
    my impression of following the alphaarchitect blog for ~5 years is they are a high integrity firm.
    curious if anyone on mfo has executed this.
  • In the A.I. Race, Chinese Talent Still Drives American Research
    FYI, below is an excerpt from an interesting article in today's The NYT:
    "In the A.I. Race, Chinese Talent Still Drives American Research
    Although some Silicon Valley executives paint China as the enemy, Chinese brains continue to play a major role in U.S. research.
    By Cade Metz and Eli Tan
    Reporting from San Francisco
    When Mark Zuckerberg, Meta’s chief executive, unveiled the company’s Superintelligence Lab in June, he named 11 artificial intelligence researchers who were joining his ambitious effort to build a machine more powerful than the human brain.
    All 11 were immigrants educated in other countries. Seven were born in China, according to a memo viewed by The New York Times.
    Although many American executives, government officials and pundits have spent months painting China as the enemy of America’s rapid push into A.I., much of the groundbreaking research emerging from the United States is driven by Chinese talent.
    Two new studies show that researchers born and educated in China have for years played major roles inside leading U.S. artificial intelligence labs. They also continue to drive important A.I. research in industry and academia, despite the Trump administration’s crackdown on immigration and growing anti-China sentiment in Silicon Valley.
    The research, from two organizations, provides a detailed look at how much the American tech industry continues to rely on engineers from China, particularly in A.I. The findings also offer a more nuanced understanding of how researchers in the two countries continue to collaborate, despite increasingly heated language from Washington and Beijing.
    In 2020, a study from the Paulson Institute, which promotes constructive ties between the United States and China, estimated that Chinese A.I. researchers accounted for nearly one-third of the world’s top A.I. talent. Most of those Chinese researchers worked for American companies and universities.
    A new study from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace shows that a vast majority of these Chinese researchers have continued to work for U.S. institutions. Of the 100 top-tier Chinese researchers in the original study who were at U.S. universities or companies in 2019 — three years before the arrival of ChatGPT set off the global A.I. boom — 87 are still doing research at U.S. universities or companies.
    “The U.S. A.I. industry is the biggest beneficiary of Chinese talent,” said Matt Sheehan, an analyst who helped write both studies. “It gets so many top-tier researchers from China who come to work in the U.S., study in the U.S. and, as this study shows, stay in the U.S., despite all the tensions and obstacles that have been thrown at them in recent years.”
    There is still significant collaboration between the two nations. A separate study from alphaXiv, a company that helps people track and use the latest A.I. research, shows that since 2018, joint research between America and China happens more often than collaboration between any other two nations."
  • Investing In AI Technology
    Everybody talks about how this isn't pets.com, but Jain hits the points I have been thinking about:
    During the dot-com era, the big infrastructure builders were incumbent telecommunication businesses and global long-haul telcos and equipment names whose regulated local and long-distance franchises generated stable, utility-like cash flows that underwrote the internet and fiber infrastructure capex binge. Today’s infrastructure arms race is driven by the hyperscalers—Microsoft MSFT, Alphabet GOOG, Amazon AMZN, Meta Platforms META, Oracle ORCL—whose reported free cash is increasingly strained by data center and GPU capex, and whose overall earnings quality is propped up by extending server/chip “useful lives” to five to six years, versus the two to three we believe it will be. And they’re treating very large and increasing stock-based compensation as a non-cash item that is being added back to cash flow metrics.
    Am I selling tech? No. It's mostly all in my taxable account, and I mostly bought at much lower prices. I'm not buying either.
    But wait, there's more. I wasn't aware of the following:
    Let’s take GPU pricing. You can call up distributors, which have publicly listed phone numbers, and some are authorized Nvidia distributors. My question: Why is the Nvidia H200, which was released late last year, selling at a 50%-60% discount if there’s such a shortage? On Nvidia’s website, they’re selling at $40,000-plus. NetworkOutlet.com quoted $25,900 just a couple of days ago. If there’s such a shortage, why are there tens of thousands available? Nvidia’s latest and most powerful AI chips, Blackwell, are also offered at a discount.
    Next, GPU rentals. Why are they in freefall? We’ve gotten quotes at under $4 per hour for Nvidia’s Blackwell GPU rentals. Would you let a $50,000 car rent for $4 if the car only has a three-to-four year life? Meanwhile, [Amazon Web Services] charges around $12-$13 for Blackwell. The bulk of new cloud growth is coming from AI startups. If they’re paying $4 per hour versus $12, then AWS can’t compete. Margins for AWS are already coming under pressure. Revenue growth was OK. Why? Because large tech is also investing in Anthropic, OpenAI, and so on. They go back and buy compute [computational resources] from these guys. Nvidia has invested in over 50 startups, which then go back and buy Nvidia chips.
    More at the link.
  • December Rate Cut in Doubt as Fed Fault Lines Deepen, Minutes Show
    Following are excerpts from a current report in The New York Times:
    The central bank’s decision to lower interest rates last month was more divisive than it first appeared as officials splintered over how to weigh a weakening labor market against rising inflation.
    Many officials at the Federal Reserve did not think the central bank should lower interest rates in December when they voted last month for a second cut in a row, according to minutes from October’s meeting. The record of the latest gathering, released on Wednesday, highlighted a divide that has only deepened since officials opted for a quarter-point cut that brought interest rates down to a range of 3.75 percent to 4 percent. Some policymakers who supported the reduction could have also supported the Fed standing pat, the minutes said, while several were against a cut.
    “In discussing the near-term course of monetary policy, participants expressed strongly differing views about what policy decision would most likely be appropriate at the committee’s December meeting,” the minutes said.
    October’s decision was already divisive. It featured a rare two-way dissent. Stephen I. Miran, whom President Trump recently picked to join the Fed’s board of governors, again voted for a larger, half-point reduction and Jeffrey R. Schmid, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, voted against any move at all. It was the third meeting in a row in which the interest rate decision was not unanimous.
    If the Fed does not cut interest rates next month, that will surely inflame tensions with President Trump, who has repeatedly lambasted Mr. Powell and attacked the politically independent central bank for not lowering borrowing costs as swiftly as he would like. On Wednesday, Mr. Trump revived a threat to remove Mr. Powell before his term ends in May, saying that he would “love to fire his ass.”
    The core of the disagreement revolves around how to balance a labor market that has started to show some signs of strain against inflation, which has gained momentum because of Mr. Trump’s tariffs and moved even further from the Fed’s 2 percent target. Some officials appear more inclined to look past the temporary price pressures stemming from tariffs and assume that, over time, their impact will fade. Instead, they harbor much greater concern about companies pulling back on hiring and the prospects of unemployment spiking.
    In a separate camp sit officials who worry far less about the slowdown in monthly jobs growth, which they believe is a function of a reduction in the supply of available workers as a result of Mr. Trump’s immigration crackdown. They do not believe interest rates are weighing too heavily on economic growth and instead believe that the Fed should be far more focused on the fact that inflation has remained stuck above the central bank’s target for nearly five years.
    New economic data typically plays a pivotal role in helping to resolve outstanding differences between officials and has proved crucial for allowing Mr. Powell to forge broad support for policy decisions. But the recent government shutdown, which stretched on for over 40 days and was the longest on record, has upended the release of a range of monthly reports, including those tracking payrolls growth and inflation. That has meant the Fed has not had a clear view of how the economy is faring since August.
    The government data drought will start to ease this week, with September’s jobs report released on Thursday and another metric tracking prices for that month for goods and services that companies use to make products out the next week. The Bureau of Labor Statistics, the agency responsible for collecting the data and publishing its findings, said on Wednesday that it was delaying the release of the November jobs report to Dec. 16, roughly a week after the December interest rate decision. The agency said it would also publish part of October’s jobs report at that point.
    Without important data in hand, the December decision looks even more uncertain than it did just a few weeks ago. Several policymakers have already made clear that they do not think the Fed should cut at that point. But the case for cutting still has powerful backers. One of the most vocal supporters is Christopher J. Waller, a governor who is in the running to replace Mr. Powell as Fed chair. In a speech this week, Mr. Waller emphasized that the labor market was near “stall speed” and that inflation concerns were overblown.
  • Investing In AI Technology
    Yes, Rajiv Jain has been there before. We may not see that AI companies may lean into private debts as Osterweis Strategic Income pointed out. Things can get ugly when things go south quickly.
    We have been reducing equity exposure since September. Currently at 40% and that is the lowest we have been in many years.
  • Anyone talk investments with friends?
    Winning, as it relates to investing, means having the financial means to achieve your goals.
    Beating some arbitrary benchmark is irrelevant.
    True to a degree. I used to play tennis with a guy that sold his business for 10-15 million in 1995. He has been invested in 90+% munis.
    He could be in 100% cash? Do you call it a win?
    Someone who read that if you have enough, don't play the stock market anymore and invested in the total bond index, BND, in the last 15 years and made 2.2% annually...is it a win?
    The biggest problem is that most can't define their goals with a specific number for performance, SD and max draw to know if they won. :-)
  • Investing In AI Technology
    "You could do worse than owning companies prominent enough to have their own shared nickname,
    but you probably could do better."
    "The group on everyone’s lips today is the Magnificent Seven.
    The performance of those stocks—especially Nvidia, which will unveil quarterly results this afternoon—
    has almost singlehandedly supported the S&P 500 since ChatGPT was unveiled three years ago."
    "AI technology certainly has legs, but the arc of history bends toward mediocrity for stocks
    once they get their own sobriquet."
    https://marketsam.cmail20.com/t/d-e-gjkjdht-duklntldl-r/
  • Anyone talk investments with friends?
    None of my friends like to talk about investing. From the little that they’ve said, it seems that they all use financial advisors. I’ve got no problem with that, but find investing very interesting and would enjoy talking about it.
    its the same here. most will say "our guy says we are doing great" and have no idea whether they are or not and are just happy that someone says its doing great.
    I'm not interested in this because i'm trying to beat the system or "win the game". I just enjoy the math if I had to guess a reason. when someone does express interest and want to talk to me it's usually because they think if i'm interested it's because i have some out-performing strategy and they want in. and then are largely disappointed when i'm like figure out your risk profile and build a well diversified allocation based on your tolerance. Check your risk profile again 5 years later and make changes if appropriate. not what they are expecting to hear.
    I have someone who wants to talk with me at Thanksgiving who sold a few investment properties and wants to talk about what they should do with this money. boy o boy are they going to probably be disappointed when i'm not like "well you see you need to load up on fartcoin and 3X Beyond Meat leveraged ETF's"
  • Anyone talk investments with friends?
    Some of my friends periodically ask me what they should do with their investments. I usually limit my responses to something like, "What do you have in mind and why?", "That would be an okay choice for a small portion of your total holdings.", or most often, "I am not qualified to advise you and refuse to jeopardize our friendship over something like this; even the best investors in the world can make terrible mistakes."
    But about four or five weeks ago I had an unusual conversation with my nephew, who works as a tradesman and has a wife and two very young kids. To prep and sell their home of seven years they moved into a condo, soon to move to another state for better employment. I expressed concern about carrying both rents, to which my nephew replied "Don't worry, I have money saved", and then showed me the four holdings using his cell phone. The two top holdings were Bitcoin and Ethereum! He had held everything long enough to turn roughly $25K into six figures.
    I was stunned, elated, and unable to contain myself. "How did you select these holdings", "What was the advice you got (from a friend) that convinced you", "Do you know anything about what these companies do", Do you have any idea how incredibly unusual your returns are", I asked. His answers confirmed he is a total neophyte when it comes to investing. Once I caught my breath I suggested he take the bulk of his winnings off the table to pause and regroup, not only to lock in the gains but also to maintain his family's stability during this precarious time. While I felt strongly this was the right thing to do, in the back of my mind I also knew it is tough to tell anyone who has seen so much success to make such a big change in direction.
    In the last week the market has made a big change in direction and those holdings have plummeted. Enough to more than cover the taxes my nephew would have to pay for liquidating his holdings a month ago. I have no idea whether or not he took my advice.