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  • Bond Returns Have Been Spectacular. Don’t Count on a Sequel.
    The other link to this story seems to have been deleted now. Myself, Ol Skeet, msf (and perhaps others) had commented on it. As I mentioned on that thread, interest rates have pretty much been trending downward since the early 80s when Fed chair Paul Volker jacked up short term rates to stop runaway inflation. The 10 year treasury topped out north of 15% around than. As we know, declining rates increase the value of longer dated bonds, while rising rates work against bond values. So we’ve had nearly 40 years of favorable rate trends for bond investors (more than half the lifetimes of many of us).
    Paul Volker didn’t do this alone. There was the financial crisis and global market meltdown of ‘07-‘09 which compelled central banks to push rates lower by assorted means. Inflation has been subdued thanks to retail giants like Amazon, less powerful labor unions and relatively cheap energy - due to fracking and other advances. Low inflation generally translates into lower interest rates (and improving bond values). Additionally, upward pressure on rates from the baby boomers buying first homes in the 70s and 80s has abated - helping drive rates lower as well. All good if you invest in longer dated high grade bonds.
    The lower-quality bond market (ie: junk) has been helped by a record 10+ year U.S. economic expansion and bull stock market which finds itself 3 or 4 times higher than it was only a decade ago. Since lower rated bonds react (favorably or unfavorably) to overall economic conditions (and secondly to long term rates) junk and corporates have tended to follow the stock market higher.
    The article is correct that the past 6 months have been “spectacular” for just about any type of bond / bond fund. Missing in the headline, but critical to the article, is that many prognosticators predicted rising interest rates for this year - while in fact rates have trended lower with the 10 year getting below 1.95% recently before closing above 2% at week’s end. I have no major criticisms of the article. However, unless you butter your bread on both sides by trading in and out of bonds - particularly the lower rated ones (as @Junkster does very well) - you probably shouldn’t be too focused on your 6 month bond return. Anything other than cash and ultra-short IMHO is best suited for terms longer than a year or two.
    I’m glad Ol Skeet liked the article and kicked it over to the discussions + part of the board.
  • Large Growth Fund
    I own and like POLRX. Then again, why? Frankly, and this may apply to you, it shows up on lists of high performing funds. I track my funds on StockCharts.com and note that this fund is up 122% in five years (unfortunately, I haven't owned it for 5 years). I like that it is often in the top quartile of performing funds in its category. (TRBCX, another fund I've owned, is up 107% in five years). I just checked Morningstar which credits POLRX with having a formula that focuses on stellar high growth companies with little or no debt. Morningstar says this approach is intended to limit risk. We will see. On the caution side you should note that it has a portfolio of only 20 stocks (not a lot of diversification if they choose the wrong stocks). And note that the list of their stocks includes the same big name growth stocks that almost every other fund seems to own (Microsoft, Facebook, Alphabet, etc.). In summary, this is a high flyer that may flop big time if we hit a brutal decline in the market.
  • The New Math Of Saving For Retirement May Boil Down To This One, Absurdly Simple Rule
    FYI: “Eventually, I’ll stop working.” Most of us think that and know it will happen, but millions of us worry whether we’re saving enough to live on once we do. We want to know: How much of my earnings should I set aside? What’s the magic number? 3%? 5%? 10%? More?
    What your financial adviser won’t tell you:
    Regards,
    Ted
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-new-math-of-saving-for-retirement-2019-05-22/print
  • Interactive Asset Allocation Tool
    Exactly. PAUIX's 20% short SPX position in a raging 'bull' market back then definitely dragged hard on it. I held it for a while during/after the GFC but dumped it once I realized they had no plans to reduce/exit that short position as the world around them changed..
    Hi, Catch.
    Two versions of the fund: All Asset and All Asset All Authority. Both have a contrarian bent (i.e., more value than momentum hence less US and more foreign than their peers). The difference is the All Asset All Authority is permitted both leverage and shorting, which I warned folks about many years ago.
    The vanilla version has substantially and consistently outperformed the souped-up on. Peer comparisons are hard because M* has changed All Asset's peer group three times in 10 years but, in generally, it has been a very solid performer (a little below average to substantially above) except for one period of about 30 months (in 2013-15). All Asset All Authority has kept the same peer group, has never excelled and has frequently stumbled. I'm guessing, though without detailed examination, that that's the cost of leverage and shorting.
    For me, that is brief.
    David
  • Interactive Asset Allocation Tool
    Hi, Catch.
    Two versions of the fund: All Asset and All Asset All Authority. Both have a contrarian bent (i.e., more value than momentum hence less US and more foreign than their peers). The difference is the All Asset All Authority is permitted both leverage and shorting, which I warned folks about many years ago.
    The vanilla version has substantially and consistently outperformed the souped-up on. Peer comparisons are hard because M* has changed All Asset's peer group three times in 10 years but, in generally, it has been a very solid performer (a little below average to substantially above) except for one period of about 30 months (in 2013-15). All Asset All Authority has kept the same peer group, has never excelled and has frequently stumbled. I'm guessing, though without detailed examination, that that's the cost of leverage and shorting.
    For me, that is brief.
    David
  • Playing The Coming Rate Cut With High-Yielding Closed-End Funds
    FYI: Confirming what markets everywhere had expected, Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell all but promised Congress Wednesday that the central bank will be lowering its federal-funds rate target, starting with a cut of one-quarter percentage point, most likely at the end of the month. He admitted that the economy already was “in a good place,” perhaps an understatement with the record-long expansion entering its 11th year, unemployment at a half-century low, the major stock market averages at record highs, and the biggest apparent problem being inflation falling short of the Fed’s 2% target. A cut would trim the bank’s key policy rate from the current 2.25%-2.50%, hardly an exalted level.
    Regards,
    Ted
    https://www.barrons.com/articles/how-to-play-the-coming-rate-cut-51562943633?mod=hp_INTERESTS_funds&refsec=funds
  • Interactive Asset Allocation Tool
    Thank you David for your thoughtful response. What prompted me to post this discussion was a comment provided by FD1001 on a M* discussion board. It suggested to me that despite the availability of the tool and the thought process behind it there is no guarantee of a successful outcome. That's true at least for PAUIX managed by Mr. Arnott compared to selected competing funds.
    Morningstar Discussion
  • Target-Date Funds May Fall Short for Retirement Savers
    I don't keep up with the various offerings from all of the fund families (especially funds like these, being more of a DIY person myself), so I hadn't looked into TRLAX.
    Apparently T. Rowe Price rebooted the fund two years ago, changing it from a target date fund into a managed payout fund. So the short answer is that this fund isn't much different from other managed payout funds now, but it used to be.
    https://retirementincomejournal.com/article/t-rowe-price-reopens-the-market-for-payout-funds/
    Viewing 4% as a "safe" withdrawal rate, that's what Vanguard targets. It adjusts the amounts periodically based on performance (as do virtually all managed payout funds). As @hank noted, T. Rowe Price fund targets 5%, while pointing out that it is designed to pay out more early in retirement and less later on (possibly not keeping up with inflation). That's not necessarily a bad idea; generally retirees are expected to spend more in early retirement while they are still more active.
    You're not giving up flexibility with managed payout funds. As T. Rowe Price notes on the overview page, you have the "Freedom to withdraw additional funds", and to "Increase (or reduce) your monthly payouts ... by adding or removing investment assets."
    The expense ratio does seem high, and is due to "other expenses", not management fees. I don't know why Price isn't operating more efficiently. In theory, you could mimic the fund yourself (it's a fund of funds), except that (a) you'd pay more than the 0.47% it pays for the aqcuired funds because you can't buy institutional class shares, and (b) some of the funds it uses are closed. Using retail class shares (if you could) would bring your expenses up to around 0.60%. (That's about the same as Fidelity charges for its 2020 RMD fund.)
    Can one do better on one's own? Maybe. ISTM this question is not much different from asking: why invest in any allocation fund; can't one do better by investing one one's own in separate large cap, small cap, investment grade, junk bonds, international? Or would one do better by paying that same 0.71% and just buying PRWCX?
  • Target-Date Funds May Fall Short for Retirement Savers
    Anytime I see “may” in a headline like this I’m wary of the actual substance of argument. But it’s a good read. TRP appears to offer a Target Income Fund. It appears quite new. Structurally, how would this differ from the target payout fund (VG and others) mentioned by @msf?
    - Overview: https://www.troweprice.com/personal-investing/mutual-funds/target-date-funds/income-funds.html
    - Detailed look: https://www.troweprice.com/personal-investing/tools/fund-research/TRLAX
    Interestingly, the NAV for TRLAX appears quite stable (for now anyway) at around $10. I assume that was the opening value. It’s also noteworthy they appear to target a 5% annual payout from the fund. I recently locked away my anticipated cash needs for 2020 (in the face of strong first-half market returns) and 5% pretty much covers the projected 2020 needs (in addition to SS and pension).
    The fund’s “real” ER is around 1.2% , which sounds extraordinarily high for this type of fund. After a fee wavier, it’s .71%. That still seems high.
    I can’t see where this would be any better than investing on your own conservatively within a sheltered plan and than withdrawing a predetermined amount yearly. I suspect you could do better on the ER and have more flexibility in the needed withdrawal amounts (which will likely vary from year to year). You also may / may not do somewhat better at timing the withdrawals to coincide with more favorable market conditions.
  • Target-Date Funds May Fall Short for Retirement Savers
    https://www.thestreet.com/retirement/target-date-funds-may-fall-short-for-retirement-savers-15016076
    Target-date funds, or what some call TDFs, have become the investment of choice for many folks saving for retirement. You buy one fund that is aligned with your anticipated year of retirement and you don't have to do much else.
  • Which Vanguard Money Market Fund? (The Finance Buff)
    An old (2007) piece, and pretty basic, but still worthwhile for descriptions of different types of MMFs. (It does not get into government vs. prime funds, which is a more recent development.)
    The 7 day yields of the Vanguard MMFs seem to bounce all over the place. For a few days they may look unbelievably good, and then they look like they're not worth it.
    The Treasury MMF, if you can meet the $50K min, may be a better option for those in high tax states like Calif. and NY. That's especially true now that SaLT deductions are limited. It used to be that if you were in, say, a 10% state/local bracket, and a 25% fed, then your effective state tax rate was 7.5% (because you could deduct state income taxes). Now more people are feeling the full weight of their state income taxes. So the state tax-exempt nature of the Treasury fund makes it even more valuable now.
    Another thing that's changed since the article was written is that the AMT exemption amount was raised so high that virtually no one is subject to AMT. Thus the fact that Vanguard's muni funds are not AMT-free isn't a concern any longer.
  • M*: 3 Great Funds Having A Lousy Year: Text & Video Presentation
    Agree with Charles. After 5 years if you are still down on original investment (I'm boing to ignore whether you doubled your money in S&P 500 in that same time), AND you still want to hold on to the fund, you have lost your marbles. You have as much probability of moving assets to another fund and do as good for next 5 years. ASSUMING original fund regardless of whether it starts performing does not shut its doors because investors are not forthcoming and may not return.
    Let no one take your tax loss away from you in the original fund.
    And there are no such things as journalists any more. That word should be stricken from the english languages. I wouldn't even call them reporters, who as the word suggests simply report what they say, and don't try to ANALyse things. There may be maybe 2 / 1000 who are journalists.
  • Interactive Asset Allocation Tool
    Hi, Mark.
    I haven't used the tool, per se. I've poked around a bit, and have read it in light of two other recent RA pieces. At base, this is simple visualization of the principle, "if value matters, then here's what has to happen for things to be more or less 'normal' a decade from now." So, given the prices people are currently paying for US large caps, it would take a decade of essentially zero returns (0.5% real) with normal economic growth for us to end the decade at "normal." If you happen to believe that "it's really different this time because (tech, the cloud, bitcoin, the Fed, politics, passive dominance, China)," you're unlikely to find this at all useful.
    The two pieces of theirs that I've been thinking about are an advisor presentation in which they graphed forward returns against current valuations. I'll try to post the graphics in our August issue. The short version: the relationship between valuations and returns are essentially zero over any 12 month period, nearly zero over any 36 month period, emergent over any 60 month period, and dauntingly like a straight line - say 90% plus - correlation over any 120 month period. In short, we can delude ourselves in the short-run that price doesn't matter but, in the long run, it very much matters.
    The second piece, published today, looks at bubbles and anti-bubbles. They got a lot of press in 2018 for their original piece defining a bubble but the section of that paper defining anti-bubbles was essentially ignored.
    An anti-bubble is an asset or asset class that requires implausibly pessimistic assumptions in order to fail to deliver a solid risk premium. In an anti-bubble, the marginal seller disregards valuation models, which are indicating the asset is undervalued.
    Today's piece identified three egregious current bubbles - Tesla, bitcoin and many large tech stocks - and issued the dual recommendation to avoid them and to avoid market-cap weighted indexes that are driven by them. The S&P 500 is 25% tech, with Microsoft, Apple, Amazon and Facebook alone accounting for 13% of the index. If the two shares of Alphabet stock (GOOG and GOOGL) were treated as one stock, then the top five stocks would all be tech and about comprise 16% of the index with an average unweighted P/E of 37.
    But RA also identified two anti-bubbles: emerging markets and, for people willing to enter the market slowly over time, UK stocks. They conclude, "Value-oriented smart beta strategies in both the developed and emerging markets offer investors promising investing opportunities outside the many bubbles in today’s global markets."
    For what that's worth,
    David
  • CEFs - from all angles
    Here's a clear, more in-depth explanation of leverage, especially as used by CEFs.
    https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/investment-products/closed-end-funds/leverage
    A couple of numbers in the original article caught my eye, as they were presented without explanation:
    "According to the Investment Company Institute, the average leverage ratio for bond funds stood at 28% last year; for equity funds the leverage ratio was 22%."
    What's an "average leverage ratio"? Is the numerator (what's being averaged) all leverage or just "stuctural", aka "1940 Act" leverage? Is the denominator (which funds are being counted) all funds or just the funds that actually use leverage?
    I didn't find the ICI 2018 figures, but I did find the 2015 figures, which are similar. The ICI explains what exactly these averages represent. For 2015, "Among closed-end funds employing structural leverage, the average leverage ratio for bond funds was somewhat higher (27.3 percent) than that of equity funds (22.0 percent)."
    https://www.ici.org/pdf/per22-02.pdf
    However, as Fidelity notes "Leverage is leverage. Regardless of the source of the leverage, it has the same effects on a portfolio ... This is why transparency of a fund's true leverage is so important. ... Fund families have wide discretion in how they choose to actively report non-'40 Act leverage. Their websites may say a fund is unleveraged, when it actually has a lot of non-'40 Act leverage."
    The original article gives a second figure: "Closed-end funds’ use of leverage can be relatively safe 'if the underlying assets are of high quality and have volatility of around 3% to 4%, commensurate with stable assets such as high-quality bonds,'"
    What's volatility, and how does that relate to the safety of leverage? I'm guessing that the figure presented is standard deviation of a portfolio. The Bloomberg Barclays US Aggregate Bond Total Return Index is around 3 for various lengths of time (3 years to 15 years), per M*.
    Is standard deviation a good way to measure safety of leverage? Here's an excerpt from a Schwab page from which one might infer that the low volatility of bonds is not necessarily comforting. (Consider my selection to represent confirmation bias, as it discusses what I regard as a significant risk of leverage - a flattening of the yield curve.)
    Leveraged closed-end funds tend to benefit from a steep yield curve—that is, a large spread between short- and longer-term interest rates. By borrowing at lower short-term rates and investing at higher longer-term rates, the fund typically can generate higher income. ... [T]he spread has narrowed over the past few years.
    Rising short-term interest rates can have a big impact on closed-end fund prices. In general, rising short-term rates will increase the cost of leverage for closed-end funds. If the yield curve flattens as rates rise, it can be a double whammy: The fund has to pay more to borrow, while the bonds in the fund may drop in value. If the spread between the cost of borrowing and the yield earned on the underlying bond investments narrows, some funds may not be able to generate as much income as in the past, leading to a cut in the income distribution.
    When that happens, a fund’s price may fall, as investors may look elsewhere for income. In addition, leverage can increase the fund’s effective duration—that is, the sensitivity of its price to changes in interest rates. Consequently, closed-end funds can experience far greater price volatility than unleveraged funds.
    https://www.schwab.com/resource-center/insights/content/closed-end-bond-funds-how-they-work-and-what-you-should-know-as-rates-rise
    On the subject of risk, the original column talks about steady payment streams, but doesn't say anything about how CEFs do this or what the risk is: "the ability to distribute returns more equally throughout the year makes income more predictable and can help clients manage their taxes more efficiently."
    The fund smooths out these "managed distributions" by estimating annual total return, including cap gains (both realized and unrealized) and paying that out monthly or quarterly. By distributing all return, the CEF hopes to maintain a steady price. Here's a page from Nuveen explaining how this works:
    https://www.nuveen.com/understanding-managed-distributions
    Nuveen notes that even if the estimates are accurate, part of the distributions may represent a return of capital (coming from the unrealized gains). Worse, if the fund overestimates total return, "some or all of the distribution represents return of capital that includes part of the shareholders’ principal."
    As Fidelity notes, consistent use of this latter "destructive return of capital is a huge red flag, especially if the return of capital comprises the bulk of a distribution."
    https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/investment-products/closed-end-funds/return-of-capital-part-one
  • Preferred Stock Issued By A mREIT
    Hi sir MIKEM
    We don't have that much preferred in our portfolio
    Few we have preferred or hy
    Our preferred portfolio ~0.5 %total
    (real estates pipelines biotech)
    Duke Realty preferred
    Mnk
    Jnk
    CipPrb
    AllyPra
    Glopra
    Cnq
    Maybe better get bonds or bonds fund... Best enjoy these vehicles after div dates... you have to watch 'em like hawks . They go up down Very quickly and loose money very quickly
    Not buying this vehicle... I did bought dillard's bonds few days ago
    254063AW0
    http://cbonds.com/emissions/issue/54235
  • How 2 Nearly Identical Junk Bond Funds Can Have Very Different Returns: (PRHYX) - (HYB)
    FYI: The next time somebody propounds the notion of efficient markets, do smile politely.
    You may reasonably concede that all possible knowledge about the 500 biggest stocks is fully discounted in their prices, so passive ownership of that broad index beats active stock picking. But when it comes to bonds and bond funds, the exceptions are prevalent enough to dispute the efficient-market rule.
    This is by way of introduction to two such examples. First, consider the T. Rowe Price High Yield fund (ticker: PRHYX), which has consistently out-returned the popular exchange-traded index fund that tracks the junk market, the iShares iBoxx $ High Yield Corporate Bond ETF (HYG), over almost every time period.
    Now consider the New America High Income fund (HYB), which has consistently outperformed the T. Rowe Price open-end fund even though both share the same managers and much the same portfolio. The key difference between the two is the former is a closed-end fund, which means it has a fixed number of shares, while the latter is an open-end mutual fund, which means it expands and contracts the number of shares to accommodate investor purchases and redemptions.
    Regards,
    Ted
    https://www.barrons.com/articles/t-rowe-price-junk-bond-closed-end-fund-51562119150?refsec=bonds
    M* Snapshot PRHYX:
    https://www.morningstar.com/funds/xnas/prhyx/quote.html
    M* Snapshot HYB:
    https://www.morningstar.com/cefs/xnys/hyb/quote.html
  • Equable Shares Small Cap Fund (I class) to open and to close to new investors
    This is not the first time this fund has done this:
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1650149/000089418918006607/spt-equable_497e.htm
    Equable Shares Small Cap Fund (Series 1)
    (Class I EQSIX)
    A Series of Series Portfolios Trust
    December 3, 2018
    Supplement to the Summary Prospectus, Prospectus and
    Statement of Additional Information (“SAI”) dated May 30, 2018
    Effective December 17, 2018, shares of the Equable Shares Small Cap Fund (Series 1) (the “Fund”) will be offered for purchase.
    Effective as of the close of business on December 19, 2018, the Fund will be closed to all new purchases. The Fund will remain open after December 19, 2018 to automatic reinvestment of dividends and capital gains distributions, as described under the section entitled “Distribution of Fund Shares – Dividends, Distributions and their Taxation” in the Prospectus.
    The decision and timing for future opening or closing of the Fund will be at the discretion of the Fund’s investment adviser, Teramo Advisors, LLC.
    For investor inquiries about the Fund, please call the Fund at (888) 898-2024.
    Please retain this Supplement with your Prospectus, Summary Prospectus and SAI for future reference.
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1650149/000089418918004304/spt-equable_497e.htm
    497 1 spt-equable_497e.htm SUPPLEMENTARY MATERIALS
    Equable Shares Small Cap Fund (Series 1)
    (Class I EQSIX)
    A Series of Series Portfolios Trust
    August 10, 2018
    Supplement to the Summary Prospectus, Prospectus and
    Statement of Additional Information (“SAI”) dated May 30, 2018
    Effective as of the close of business on August 16, 2018, the Equable Shares Small Cap Fund (Series 1) (the “Fund”) will be closed to all new purchases. The Fund will remain open to automatic reinvestment of dividends and capital gains distributions, as described under the section entitled “Distribution of Fund Shares – Dividends, Distributions and their Taxation” in the Prospectus.
    The decision and timing for future opening or closing of the Fund will be at the discretion of the Fund’s investment adviser, Teramo Advisors, LLC.
    For investor inquiries about the Fund, please call the Fund at (888) 898-2024.
    Please retain this Supplement with your Prospectus, Summary Prospectus and SAI for future reference.
  • Equable Shares Small Cap Fund (I class) to open and to close to new investors
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1650149/000089418919004102/eqsixsupplement792019.htm
    497 1 eqsixsupplement792019.htm 497
    Filed pursuant to Rule 497(e)
    Registration Nos. 333-206240; 811-23084
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    Equable Shares Small Cap Fund
    (Class I EQSIX)
    A Series of Series Portfolios Trust
    July 9, 2019
    Supplement to the Summary Prospectus, Prospectus and
    Statement of Additional Information (“SAI”) dated February 28, 2019
    Effective July 15, 2019, shares of the Equable Shares Small Cap Fund (the “Fund”) will be offered for purchase.
    Effective as of the close of business on July 17, 2019, the Fund will be closed to all new purchases. The Fund will remain open after July 17, 2019 to automatic reinvestment of dividends and capital gains distributions, as described under the section entitled “Distribution of Fund Shares – Dividends, Distributions and their Taxation” in the Prospectus.
    Shares of the Fund are currently not available for new purchases and will remain closed until the above referenced date. The decision and timing for future opening or closing of the Fund will be at the discretion of the Fund’s investment adviser, Teramo Advisors, LLC.
    For investor inquiries about the Fund, please call the Fund at (888) 898-2024.
    Please retain this Supplement with your Prospectus, Summary Prospectus and SAI for future reference.
  • U.S.-Stock Funds Are Up 17% So Far In 2019
    Agreed, the markets have risen nicely this year.
    But the widely-quoted rise in the markets since January 1 forgets about the steep drop in December. So we're working off a low base.
    If we include the downs and ups, the past 12 months total return for the S&P 500 has been about 10%.
    Which is still good, just not in the gangbusters neighborhood.
    David