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  • Diversifiers
    @soaring, where/how do you buy it? M* lists $5M min. Appears unable to be bought at Fido and ML.
  • How much do you have in your savings account?
    So to keep with the historical custom you cite, a better question would have been What percent of your total nut do you have in cash?
    I was not expressing any opinion about privacy. It's not that I don't understand the issues. I was just surprised few were willing to answer a plain direct question but responded anyway.
    Opinion weighting is an interesting notion. Not sure it applies so much in a situation where anyone could've said "I have 50k (or 25k, or 100k), about a year's worth for me." Whatever.
  • 401K advice
    Hi proman. The 3 main drivers to winning the retirement savings game are to start saving early in your career, save as much as you can (10% of your income minimum) and have a diversified portfolio according to risk tolerance. I wouldn't agonize over fund choice too much. Fund choice IMO is a very distant contributor to the end-game compared to these other factors.
    It would be my opinion that one of those Target Date funds would give you the allocation base you need. Use the retirement year as a guide, but make your decision based more on the funds stock/bond allocation. Take a look at how much these funds lost in 2008. Are you comfortable with short term loss knowing you don't need this money for another 30+ years? For example I see that the 2045 retirement fund, AOOIX, is about 78% stocks. It had a 1 year, 2008 loss of 33%. At 30 years old that might be a good choice for you, but you have to decide. If the fund is riskier then you can handle (based on 1 year loss potential) you may pull out at the very wrong time. If it doesn't have enough stock or risk at your age then you may be leaving a lot of money on the table 30 years from now.
    Anyway, start with your allocation and then pick a few funds that get you to that allocation. And don't overlook the index funds when allotting, especially in the large cap area. And remember one fund like a Target Date fund might be all you need or at least be the core of your portfolio.
    Save as much as you can and as soon as you can. That's the big deal. Good luck to you.
    edit: oops, in my original post I used data from AAARX, the strategic fund. I changed the ticker to be AOOIX, the 2045 target date fund.
  • How much do you have in your savings account?
    I have about half a year's living expenses in cash and short term investments. I'd say about 80% of that is straight cash. My wife holds another slug of money equivalent to about 25% of our annual living expenses, separately, in cash and conservatively-managed flexible stock/bond funds (roughly split 50 cash/50 funds).
  • How much do you have in your savings account?
    @little5bee - LOL
    We're near the end of our budget year, and had a lot of unanticipated expenses over the summer - so at the moment our checking accounts (at two local banks) contain less $$ than Dex's stated figure.
  • Diversifiers
    I haven't invested in it yet, but I'm rather drawn to PRAFX, TRP's real assets fund. Almost half the fund is real estate, the rest is materials, commodities and energy. It could serve nicely as an all-in-one diversifier for maybe 5% of a portfolio.
    One important consideration about putting 5% of your portfolio into such a fund, or into REITs or preferreds, etc, is you must be willing to make a long-term allocation. Moving in and out of these areas is surefire way to lose money.
  • 401K advice
    Hi proman:
    Not familiar with AC's current lineup - though I did once invest with them and found them OK. Keep in mind that funds like the one you own (Aggressive is the tip-off here) are typically very volatile. Losses of 15-25% in a year followed by similarily large gains are not uncommon. Comes with the territory.
    My sense is you'd be more at ease in some type of moderate allocation fund or a target date fund based on anticipated retirement year. And shucks ... There's nothing on your list along that line that I recognize or could recommend.
    The one (more aggressive) choice that leaps to mind is T.Rowe Price's Growth Stock Fund (PRGFX). They're a great client-friendly house. And Lipper gives the fund its highest ratings. Another I've owned and liked is Oppenheimer's Global Growth (OPPAX). It also scores well at Lipper. R-Class would allow you to own Class A equivalent at Oppenheimer without paying the customary (near 5%) load. But be wary of many of Oppenheimer's other funds. You can lose a lot of money fast in some of them. And their allocation funds actually tack-on an extra "allocation fee", making them overly costly to own.
    Please keep in mind that the two I mentioned specifically (at Price and Oppenheimer) are aggressive funds designed for long-term investors able to tolerate large swings in NAV.
  • How much do you have in your savings account?
    l5b, no trash pickup (or sewerage) in our town; we pay for private pickup. Very well-paid teachers, though.
    Interesting that almost nobody else answers the question and gives figures. Maybe I should delete mine.
  • Luz Padilla /Doubleline E M Bonds Webcast Tue10/06
    Crash, the 5y figures I see on M* for annualized total return are 4.16% for DBLEX and 3.42% for PREMX, which makes some difference (top 7% vs. top 24%, five stars vs. four stars), and DBLEX is "low" on the risk rating vs. "average" for PREMX.
    Padilla and Gundlach said at the outset, and have repeated frequently, that the objective of the fund is market return with lower risk, and looks like they've delivered.
    Both are good funds, but DBLEX has been a little ahead on return: risk since inception.
    Cheers, AJ
  • How much do you have in your savings account?
    @VintageFreak, yes, they are FDIC insured ($250K limit per account). That was the first thing I checked. We did perfectly fine during 2000-2002 and 2008.
    Money market funds work just like saving accounts, and pay very little. Nothing fancy. I prefer Vanguard short term investment grade bond, Admiral share, VFSUX, with SEC yield 1.97% and ER 0.10%.
  • How much do you have in your savings account?
    A wise man once told me - at that time I didn't know he was wise - never invest more than half of your money regardless of how much money you have. This is completely contrary to any advice you will receive.
    I am taking this advice. My "cash" position in my investment portfolio does not include 50% cash I have which I will never invest. I maximize my retirement accounts of course.
  • ETFs and the free lunch illusion
    Vanguard is the perfect place to compare ETF and OEF, because they invest in the same underlying portfolio and their shares, say VIG and VDADX, and have identical ERs. This removes portfolio differences and ER differences, allowing one to see clearly the differences due strictly to the sales structure. It also demonstrates that with Vanguard, cost advantage is indeed illusory (#1).
    With VDADX, you get exactly what you pay for (NAV). With the VIG ETF you may get more or less, and that difference varies from moment to moment and day to day (#5). Vanguard shows that as of now (market close, Oct 6) the ETF was trading at a $0.04 discount, so selling near day end would have netted you a few cents under NAV.
    Actually, you likely would have lost another penny, because Vanguard (like most providers) gives the closing price of the ETF as the midpoint between bid and ask. VIG typically has a 2c spread, and depending on the Vanguard ETF, the typical spread can be as high as 0.20%. (#4).
    Hidden expenses, Vanguard? Trading expenses - these are the same for VIG and its open end siblings, because they share the same underlying portfolio. Likewise any volatility due to skittish investors (again one must ask, Vanguard?) would impact the NAV of the ETF share the same as it would affect the open end class' NAVs.
    This is why I feel Vanguard provides the perfect way to compare the two ways of buying/selling shares of a portfolio - ETFs and open end funds. Take the portfolio itself out of the equation and all that's left are the intrinsic differences in sales mechanisms. One always gives you a buck for a buck (NAV), the other often doesn't quite get there, for various reasons.
  • 401K advice
    Here's a good thread on M* from someone asking a similar question - new investor, a bit younger (age 25, not 30), lots of the same funds (or similar funds, or funds from the same families).
    http://discuss.morningstar.com/NewSocialize/forums/t/341193.aspx
    It's worth reading because no one who responded suggested "pick this fund and this one". Rather, they ask additional questions of the investor, discuss IRAs, matching, costs, etc. Easier for me to point you there than repeat a lot of good feedback.
    Unlike the funds there (which were 'A' shares, apparently load-waived), you are being offered 'R' shares, which are load shares, period. Those funds add an extra 0.50% annually to the fees they take out of your investment.
    Often (especially for small employers) this is a way for the employer to offer the plan without paying any fees to the administrator for running it. It is the employees who pay for the plan out of their investments (the 0.50% being assessed). That's a good reason to invest in the plan only up to the matching amount (if any), then an IRA, then maybe looking at more in the plan.
    Of the funds I recognize, there are some decent ones, but few that jump out at me.
  • How much do you have in your savings account?
    I have less then $5,000. That is what I would have said if asked.
    The rest of my $ is in mutual fund ect. or my home.
    How do companies spend $ on such poor surveys.
    http://www.gobankingrates.com/savings-account/62-percent-americans-under-1000-savings-survey-finds/
  • ETFs and the free lunch illusion
    I suspect that huge, highly liquid and extremely cheap ETFs like most of Vanguard's or even some of Schwab's proprietary ones (say, SCHD) do not suffer from disadvantages 1,2, 4, and 5 listed above.
    Indeed, if you compare the ETF and OEM versions of Vanguard funds (say VIG vs. VDAIX) the ETF generally outperforms slightly.
    #3, poor market timing, is a danger for all investments.
    And mutual funds have plenty of disadvantages too, including hidden fees, trading expenses, taxes, and being forced by skittish investors to buy and sell at exactly the wrong time.
    But I'd stay far away from any ETFs that aren't very liquid and cheap.
  • Luz Padilla /Doubleline E M Bonds Webcast Tue10/06
    A RISKIER APPROACH
    Templeton Betting on `Multi-Decade' Emerging-Market Opportunity
    October 5, 20155:37 PM CDT
    Updated on October 6, 2015 — 4:36 PM CDT
    The recent selloff in emerging-market assets, including Mexico and Malaysia’s currencies, has opened up investment opportunities not seen for decades, according to Franklin Templeton’s Michael Hasenstab, who’s well known for making contrarian bets.
    “On a valuation basis, this is not a once-a-decade, this is a multi-decade opportunity to be buying very cheap assets,” Hasenstab, who oversees 30 funds with $143 billion in assets, said in an interview posted on YouTube Monday. “We are not buying everything,” but “there are a handful that have been caught up in the turmoil that we think are diamonds in the rough,” he said.
    His reputation, however, was tarnished lately after an investment in Ukraine turned sour as the conflict-torn country defaulted on its bonds. A Templeton-led creditor committee holding about half of the country’s $18 billion Eurobonds reached a restructuring deal with the Ukraine government in August.
    Hasenstab’s Templeton Global Bond Fund, which manages $61 billion, has lost 6.1 percent this year, trailing 85 percent of its competitors, as some of its wagers on emerging markets flopped, according to Morningstar Inc. It returned 7.1 percent annually over the past decade, beating 99 percent of its peers.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-05/templeton-betting-on-multi-decade-emerging-market-opportunity
    Fact Sheet 6/30/2015
    https://www.franklintempleton.com/forms-literature/download/406-FF
  • 401K advice
    Hi All,
    I am new to the investing world and am hoping for some advice on funds to invest in for my 401K portfolio. I am currently invested in one fund ( American Century Strategic Allocation: Aggressive ). This fund doesn't seem to perform as well as our advisor assumed. I would appreciate any advice anyone may have oh what I can do with these funds:
    Percent
    Invesco Stable Asset Fund
    Putnam American Government Income Fund - Class R
    PIMCO Total Return Fund - Class R
    Oppenheimer Global Strategic Income Fund - Class R
    Ivy High Income Fund - Class R
    PIMCO Real Return Fund - Class R
    AB Global Bond Fund - Class R
    American Century One Choice In Retirement Portfolio - Class R
    American Century One Choice 2020 Portfolio - Class R
    American Century One Choice 2025 Portfolio - Class R
    American Century One Choice 2030 Portfolio - Class R
    American Century One Choice 2035 Portfolio - Class R
    American Century One Choice 2040 Portfolio - Class R
    American Century One Choice 2045 Portfolio - Class R
    American Century One Choice 2050 Portfolio - Class R
    American Century One Choice 2055 Portfolio - Class R
    American Century Strategic Allocation: Conservative Fund - Class R
    American Century Strategic Allocation: Moderate Fund - Class R
    BlackRock Global Allocation Fund, Inc. - Class R
    AB Equity Income Fund - Class R
    BlackRock Equity Dividend Fund - Class R
    Franklin Rising Dividends Fund - Class R
    SSgA S&P 500 Index Securities Lending Series Fund - Class IX
    BlackRock Capital Appreciation Fund, Inc. - Class R
    Neuberger Berman Socially Responsive Fund - Class R3
    T. Rowe Price Growth Stock Fund - Class R
    BlackRock Mid Cap Value Opportunities Fund - Class R
    Oppenheimer Main Street Mid Cap Fund - Class R
    SSgA S&P MidCap Index Non-Lending Series Fund - Class J
    Eagle Mid Cap Growth Fund - Class R3
    Nuveen Mid Cap Growth Opportunities Fund - Class R3
    Delaware Small Cap Value Fund - Class R
    JPMorgan US Small Company Fund - Class R2
    SSgA Russell Small Cap Index Securities Lending Series Fund - Class VIII
    Lord Abbett Alpha Strategy Fund - Class R3
    Nuveen Small Cap Select Fund - Class R3
    MFS International Value Fund - Class R2
    MFS Research International Fund - Class R2
    Neuberger Berman International Select Fund - Class R3
    SSgA International Index Securities Lending Series Fund - Class VIII
    Oppenheimer International Diversified Fund - Class R
    MFS International New Discovery Fund - Class R2
    Oppenheimer Global Fund - Class R
    RS Emerging Markets Fund - Class K
    The Hartford Healthcare Fund - Class R3
    Oppenheimer Gold & Special Minerals Fund - Class R
    Deutsche Real Estate Securities Fund - Class R
    Columbia Seligman Communications and Information Fund - Class R
    I am 30 and just starting to invest so I need to catch up and willing to go aggressive for now. Any help or advice would be very much appreciated. I was planning on reallocating at least 90% of my current funds.
    Thank you in advance
  • Luz Padilla /Doubleline E M Bonds Webcast Tue10/06
    DLENX vs PREMX going back 5 years are almost even-steven. I see the TRP div. is more generous, too.
  • ETFs and the free lunch illusion
    @little5bee
    Our house tends to move large enough positions that the one time fee, if it applies; to purchase an etf is not a concern.
    respectfully...no, thanks! I'm not as good of a market timer as you.
  • ETFs and the free lunch illusion
    @little5bee
    I don't advocate buying a share of an etf. But, if one is considering a purchase of "x" $'s into their choice of investment, the $7.95 is a one time event. Obviously, purchasing in chunks would be a whole different consideration. Fidelity does offer a fair number of etf's via I-shares without purchase fees.
    Our house tends to move large enough positions that the one time fee, if it applies; to purchase an etf is not a concern. ITOT is a good example if one wants a U.S. equity postion that is somewhat mixed with cap. size. The e.r. is .07%.
    Have a pleasant remainder of the evening.
    Catch