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  • A Recent Moving Average Study
    Hi Guys,
    In the 1960s I made investment decisions using Moving Averages as a guide. My bible was the first edition of Edwards and Magee’s “Technical Analysis of Stock Trends”. That tome is still highly regarded.
    Keeping charts using pencil and graph paper is an error prone, labor intensive task. I had a few successes and a few failures. After about 5 years, I abandoned the arduous chore and drifted to more fundamentally based analysis.
    Over the last decade, technical analysis, and particularly those that are momentum or Moving Average based have enjoyed a resurgence of popularity. One reason is that they worked extremely well in this timeframe.
    Moving Averages (MA) over its entire lifetime have experienced checkered outcomes. It doesn’t work for a time, and then yields spectacular rewards. Knowledge of its history, what excess returns, or reduced risk it offers can make you a better informed investor. Depending on your goals, timeframe, and risk profile, you might consider using the MA tool or not. Your choice.
    Here is a Link to a recent very serious academic paper that explores “The Real-Life Performance of Market Timing with Moving Average and Time-Series Momentum Rules”:
    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2242795
    This paper adds to the extensive body of MA studies preceding it. One goal is to eliminate some data-mining aspects of earlier studies. Another is to incorporate trading cost estimates into its assessments. The study is comprehensive and covers the market period from 1926 to 2012. That’s a lot of history that embodies all kinds of economies and exogenous events.
    This 35 page report does get a bit mathematically intense in its midsection, but those details can be skipped without compromising an understanding of its findings and the reasons why. In particular read the 4. Discussion section for some practical insights.
    For example, the author concludes that MA tactics produce a reduction of roughly 30% in returns volatility (standard deviation) relative to buy-and-hold because that tactic is approximately out of equities and into short-term bonds approximately 30% of the time.
    For example, Section 4.2 discusses why market timing strategies sometimes work.
    The paper’s overarching conclusion is that: “Our findings reveal that at best the real-life performance of the market timing strategies is only marginally better than that of the passive counterparts.”
    In the Conclusions section, the researcher says that: “Our estimates suggest that over a long run investors can expect at best only marginally better risk-adjusted returns as compared to the passive investing. Over a medium run, on the other hand, a stock market timing strategy is more likely to underperform than to outperform the passive strategy. This is because the superior performance of a stock market timing strategy is usually confined to some relatively short particular historical episodes.”
    The researcher used the Sharpe ratio to measure risk-adjusted returns. Over the entire study period, MA approaches attenuated returns relative to buy-and-hold. Since MA reduces volatility, it delivered marginally superior risk-adjusted performance. As an investor, we get to choose our own poison. The author concludes with the usual cautionary warning that the past does not necessarily predict the future.
    Please enjoy the report.
    Best Regards.
  • 9 Core Funds That Beat The Market
    "Small funds need not apply."
    Morningstar highlights nine funds in the article, with assets up to $101 billion. Those are drawn from a list of 28 that made the cut. Of those 28, one has under a billion in assets.
    The key to making the cut: Morningstar must designate it a "core" fund, a category for which there are no hard-and-fast rules. Generally large cap and generally diversified, but also fairly large. There's only one free-standing fund with under $250 million in assets that they think of as "core."
    There are a lot of "core" funds under $250 million but that occurs only when they're part of a target-date suite: Fidelity Retirement 2090 might have only $12 in it but it becomes "core" because the whole Fido series is core.
    Morningstar's implied judgments ("we don't trust anyone over 30 or under a billion in assets") might be fair, but would be fairer if more explicit.
    David
  • Dodge and Cox proxy vote
    @mrdarcey: DODLX seems destined for 5/1/14 as per this 4/7/14 filing.
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/29440/000119312514133696/d647972d485bpos.htm
    Since interested purchasers will have to wait the required waiting time, there is no reason to publicize something no one can purchase until the required waiting period ends. This also happened with Artisan's Global Small Cap Fund when it was first introduced. Initially, you saw information about the fund, then it disappeared from the web site.
  • The BeeHive Fund
    @VintageFreak: ' Any takers?" No ! No ! No ! 3-years 85 percentile, 5-years 71 percentile
    Regards,
    Ted
    M* Snapshot Of BEEHX: http://quotes.morningstar.com/fund/beehx/f?t=beehx
  • The BeeHive Fund
    Thankzzz. I'll buzz by and comb through its prospectus. I believe the ticker is BEEHX. I hope they expand offerings to BEERX and BUZZX.
    At first buzz:
    They might "play with the numbers". If you take a look at the Expense Ratio, the fund provides a .05% fee waiver that convienently drops the ER to .99% (from 1.04%). Some businesses pride themselves on just this strategy... (99 Cent Stores, Gas pumps, and Used Car lots).
    A concentrated portfolio...top 10 holdings make up 45% and top 25 holdings make up close to 95% of fund.
    Large Blend fund with little or no exposure to: Basic Materials, Real Estate, Utilities or Consumer Defense.
  • Dodge and Cox proxy vote
    All set for tomorrow. I understand that after the formal shareholder meeting there will be a one hour tour of the Dodge & Cox facility. It's an impressive building actually. Views from up-top are take-your-breath away beautiful. I had opportunity recently to watch the documentary Money for Nothing there.
  • Which bond fund in FIDO?
    @STB65: Hunt with the big dogs, FAGIX
  • Rarer Than Rare
    @cman, thank you!!! I was feeling somewhat depressed after reading Sam Lee's article (and its funny but I feel that way a lot after I read his articles) and you've cheered me up. I felt even better when I did a little research and found out Lee's newsletter, with an admittedly short history, has performed miserably compared to the Wilshire 5000 on a risk adjusted basis and even worse when unadjusted. Maybe his writing just helps to make him feel better about his own lack of both skill and luck.
  • Art Cashin: Why Stocks May Reach New Highs
    I like Art Cashin, but he is becoming the master of the obvious. I wish he would take a little more career risk and say something useful based on his years of experience.
    He says that IF the S&P breaks 1885 there is a good chance it could close above 1890. But 1890 is only 5 points above 1885 - only about 0.25% which is basically noise. Then he says if 1890 is broken, MAYBE the bulls will take a shot at 1900. Again 1900 is only 0.5% above 1890 and can occur intra-day via trading noise.
    "They're very close to the next resistance level, which is 1882 to 1885. If they break through that there's a very good chance they will try to get above the record closing high, which was 1890."
    If that happens, "the bulls will be reinvigorated and maybe we'll take a shot at 1900."
  • Market Timing With Decision Moose ... New Signal
    Since you said please, here's your video. Enjoy!
    wealthtrack.com/recent-programs-ROBERT KESSLER – IN DEFENSE OF BONDS
    EDV (Zero Treasuries) vs. IBB (Biotech) over the last 5 years:
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  • Rarer Than Rare
    @dryflower, the studies along these lines do not model the reality correctly and so come up with incorrect conclusions when they generalize it.
    Imagine, if you were to conduct a similar study of multiple choice test scores of all high school students over a number of tests with no selection criterion, you may conclude that the test scores across all students were determined more by luck than skill because random answering shows similar distribution. Or if there was skill that you could not reliably select students that had skill or that they showed no persistence or if it did it was because those students studied more broadly than others (took more risk). :-)
    Studies that lie behind this indexing cult usually follow the same cyclic argument as follows, including the study linked in the other thread.
    1. In the aggregate over all funds, the active funds do not perform over index funds.
    But wait, you say, I do not select funds by throwing darts and there are a lot of bad funds. So what if I select the good funds?
    2. Even if you were somehow able to select good funds they do not show persistence over time. So, it is futile.
    But wait, you say, you require the fund to beat the index every year or in two consecutive periods and consider it a fail even if the fund underperforms in one period by a mere 0.5% while it gained by 2% in the previous period. So, it isn't necessary to be persistent in YOUR definition for the fund to do well over time.
    3. But active funds in general do not beat indices over time. See 1 above.
    See the cyclic argument?
    I am waiting for somebody to do a simple study. Find the cumulative performance over a reasonable period of time of active funds selected with multiple criterion available at the beginning of the period and see if any of the criterion select for over performing funds with statistical significance. This is what models reality better. If none of the selection criterion comes out with a reliable way to select a fund, then there is a good case to make against choosing active funds
    Because reality is complex, choosing a mathematical or statistical model to draw conclusions from is not trivial and requires some simplifying assumptions. That can lead to incorrect conclusions in the general case.
    As a very simple example of incorrect modeling leading to incorrect conclusions, consider @mjg's charming anecdote in another thread of using probabilities to make shooting decisions in basketball (not to pick on @mjg here).
    On the surface, it looks perfectly reasonable. The math is correct. So, the conclusion of going for 3 pointers should be valid, right? It might be, if the opposing coach is a total idiot as might happen in a junior team of 12 year olds. However, it does not apply in general because the reality is different for that simple modeling to apply.
    When you have two opposing teams making strategic decisions in a zero sum game, it needs to be modeled with game theory rather than simple probability to reflect what happens in reality better. Game theory applied to this suggests that the fixed point equilibrium reduces the efficacy of the 3 pointers to a level where it provides no advantage over a 2 point attempt.
    The plain English translation is that, if the 3 point tries start to win with higher probability in successive games, the opposing team will start to guard against 3 pointers more, which leaves them vulnerable to 2 point attacks and so a higher probability doing that, etc., until an equilibrium is reached.
    So real world coach decisions are much more complex relying on luck and skill to outplay the other teams based on the players, how they are playing at that moment, probability of refs in that game to be lenient towards fouls in that game, the strengths or weaknesses of the opposing coach, etc. Good coaches do this by intuition and aren't helped by a probability calculator to consult. It is not just luck either.
    Good fund managers and good coaches have a lot of things in common. :-)
  • The Bond Party Is Over
    MFO Members: For what its worth department, the linkster's asset allocation at age 77.
    Regards,
    Ted
    Money Market: .18%
    Mutual Funds: 10.3% (All Equity Funds)
    Individual Bonds & Preferred Stocks: 13.02%
    Stocks; 76.5 %
    Thanks for sharing, Ted. How many stocks do you own? Assume just a handful considering your philosophy of concentrating on best ideas. You certainly seem
    to have a good feel for the market and the ability to keep a regular eye on your
    investments.
  • The Bond Party Is Over
    @Ted. Ha! Pretty much "All In" looks like. You're a better man than I.
    It's been 356 trading days since market dropped below 200 day average...and then only for 3 days.
    It's been 683 days since we've spent any extended time (2-3 months) below 200 day average...back in fall of 2011.
  • The Bond Party Is Over
    MFO Members: For what its worth department, the linkster's asset allocation at age 77.
    Regards,
    Ted
    Money Market: .18%
    Mutual Funds: 10.3% (All Equity Funds)
    Individual Bonds & Preferred Stocks: 13.02%
    Stocks; 76.5 %
  • The Bond Party Is Over
    I have been advised to go with 20% equity, 50% bonds, 30% short term. Age are 80+78.
    Assets are suitable in retirement to cover all estimated expenses to age 95.
  • PIMCO Fundamental IndexPLUS AR Fund ?
    I own a little in my Roth IRA. It's basically a bond fund plus a derivative to give you value-tilted stock market exposure, if I understand it right. If you think Bill Gross's bond fund can earn enough return to overcome the management fee, and if you believe in a value tilt, it makes sense as a slightly riskier alternative to an index fund. But it is extraordinarily un-tax efficient, so hold it only in a tax-advantaged account, and the super excess returns of the last 5 years won't be repeated since the glory days for bonds are almost certainly over.
  • Which bond fund in FIDO?
    Having chosen to be bonded at the hip to FIDO in my 403b, and facing 0.01% money market returns in the third year of a presidential cycle, with a US stock market that seems fairly to over-valued, and Ukraine, Iran, and China posing concerns, I wondered what others might choose from the following options: FNMIX (are emerging market bonds coming back?) which might offer more return; FFRHX (lower return with some experts claiming these funds aren't as safe as they seem - but FIDO has good bond analysts); FAGIX (high yield, an area which has usually done better than predicted).
    These funds have redemption fees of 1% for 60 to 90 days, which shouldn't matter, since funds would only be moved to equities if there were a precipitous decline (and I'd be late to the party anyway). All lost varying amounts in 2008-9, and less in 2011; and I am retiring probably in 3 years, so income would be nice, but I can tolerate some volatility, if I am made whole in 5 to 7 years.
    If you feel I have abused the site, keep the castigations brief. I can tolerate more risk than short-term bond funds offer. I'm about 65% in equities across my various retirement accounts, if that colors your answer. My wife and I can probably survive for a year or two on SS income, but she'd be complaining (I actually like beans and rice - with enough spices).