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  • couple of reads - cash solutions/muni bonds etc...
    Nice stuff John.
    I like this chart from the cash solutions article, but I personally would advise to "Save for a Home" as one of priorities.
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  • Gregg Fisher: What's A Sustainable Portfolio Withdrawal Rate ?
    After my parents reached the point that age was affecting their ability to make good decisions I took over the management of all family money and affairs. Since, their investments had reached critical mass and they had made good choices in preparing for retirement there was not a need to draw down investment principal.
    My strategy was a simple one. I took 1.25% per quarter from the portfolio’s closing valuation and moved this sum to a cash reserve and disbursement account. When the money was needed it was easily accessed … and, I never had a cash crunch. Some quarters I drew upon reserves and sometimes I did not but I continued to fund the reserve account as I described above even when it was not needed. And, oh by the way, I grew the investment principal, over time, so the amount taken each quarter for the most part grew in size.
    Now that I have reached retirement, I plan to do much the same; and, I have started my distribution rate at 0.75% per quarter to fund my cash reserve and disbursement account.
    Old_Skeet
  • journalist query: "what do you think of acronym-based investment strategies?"
    Perhaps these acronym investments serve a purpose for some but when I hear about a BRIC fund I think about a fund that is like the Dow compared to the SP500 index with relation to emerging markets.
  • Process and Luck over Outcome
    Hi Guys,
    From the writings of Michael Mauboussin: "We have no control over outcomes, but we can control the process. Of course, outcomes matter, but by focusing our attention on process, we maximize our chances of good outcomes."
    A few days ago a rather new MFO participant asked a question that inspired respectably wide and divergent replies, and attracted an even wider viewership. This was somewhat puzzling given the manner by which the subject was introduced: “Why Did Each and Every One of my Funds Beat the Index?”.
    Please note that the main thrust of my post is not to be critical of the original poster, but to expand the discussion horizon of the topic. The originating post is merely a point of departure.
    The MFO member asserted that all his mutual funds had outdistanced benchmarks for a 15 year period. Although that’s a highly unlikely event, probabilities do not go to zero given the huge number of accessible funds and the even larger number of mutual fund owners with unlimited portfolio construction options. So the claim can not be summarily dismissed.
    To paraphrase one of the questions, the new member asked the MFO board to provide some explanations or suggestions for his success story. Stripped of its specific nuances, this is the old is it skill or is it luck conundrum?
    By the very way the question was asked, the answer is embedded in the question itself. The new MFO member is baffled by his success. He requested explanatory aid. He identified no methodology in his sorting or selection process. In fact, that process likely morphed over time as the investor acquired some experience. Given these conditions, the most promising guesstimate is that the investor was purely a luck beneficiary.
    That’s not a particularly devastating assessment. All investors, at one time or another, have experienced both winning and losing streaks. Since forecasting is an inexact discipline, luck must be an integral part of any outcome equation. But certainly all investors are not equal. The experienced, the informed, the patient, the persistent, the confident, the wealthy investor tilts the odds of winning just a little more in his direction. However, none of this is a rock solid guarantee for excess profits.
    Even such an honored and heroic market wizard like Benjamin Graham recognized and adjusted to the changing dynamics of an evolving marketplace. Here is an extended quote from Graham that he enunciated late in his exceptional career:
    "I am no longer an advocate of elaborate techniques of security analysis in order to find superior value opportunities. This was a rewarding activity, say, 40 years ago, when our textbook "Graham and Dodd" was first published; but the situation has changed a great deal since then. In the old days any well-trained security analyst could do a good professional job of selecting undervalued issues through detailed studies; but in the light of the enormous amount of research now being carried on, I doubt whether in most cases such extensive efforts will generate sufficiently superior selections to justify their cost. To that very limited extent, I'm on the side of the "efficient market" school of thought now generally accepted by the professors."
    Graham modified and documented his thinking on this matter many decades ago. Given the proliferation of financial data, the ease of Internet research, and the overall enhanced knowledge, training, and smartness of present institutional investors, finding undervalued prospects today is a more daunting task.
    The referenced contributor apparently used relatively unsophisticated, transitory, and sometimes flawed processes when sorting his way through the mutual fund selection maze. I do not wish to unnecessarily pile-on since many wise and informed MFO participants have already identified these shortcomings in his analysis, but several observations are worth repeating for emphasis and to establish my position on the matter.
    Proper benchmark matching is really necessary to score the effectiveness of any investment decision. In general, that rule is violated time and time again. The assertion was for the recent 15-year period. That’s fine except how sensitive are the results to other timeframes? How does any portfolio compare for 5-year, 10-year, and 20-year time periods? An investor should always explore the robustness of his findings against a variety of timeframes.
    Most importantly, the decision making process was totally ignored. The discussion merely centered on outcomes, the final score. I believe since future outcomes are unknowable, the process itself should be the focus of attention. As an investor, you control process, you never control outcomes.
    That’s why I initiated my post with the Michael Mauboussin quote. You are free to alter the process if the circumstances demand a change; but the decision is always in your wheelhouse. You control process, and you should dutifully document any changes.
    I congratulate any investor who assembles a portfolio that outdistances a meaningful, accurate benchmark. I find it amazing that a rather inexperienced investor can select individual portfolio components that each generate excess returns over their respective appropriate benchmarks. Although the odds are decisively against that happening, it does happen. More power to that rare bird. As the song goes “luck be a lady tonight”.
    Rather than seeking explanatory help from the general investing population, if I were such an individual, I would be proclaiming the virtues of my methodology, my process. Now that’s the ultimate test. Is the process real and repeatable? Even scientists have been known to distort or falsify data to secure fame or fortune. Sad but true.
    Folks tend to focus on successful investors, and often attempt to duplicate their success using similar methods. Frequently, that does not work because luck was a major factor in the outcome. It might be a more rewarding project to examine failures. We can learn far more from a failure analysis than from an ill-defined and morphing set of selection rules. The Space Program Challenger disaster was not fully examined until after the O-ring failure although accumulating evidence had suggested the O-ring sensitivity to low temperature.
    I like Michael Mauboussin’s perspectives on investing. Here is a Link to a 36 minute interview conducted with him by the Motley Fool organization:
    http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/01/an-interview-with-behavioral-investing-expert-mich.aspx
    I hope you enjoy and learn from this probing interchange.
    It’s always friendly to offer a little lagniappe (a small gift) after such a lengthy posting. Since luck is an integral part of this posting, perhaps a few thoughts are appropriate.
    Under certain circumstances luck is indeed arbitrary and uncontrollable, like being a victim in an earthquake. However, researchers believe that under a large number of circumstances, luck is somewhat controllable and can be improved. Situational awareness, a positive attitude, faith, perseverance, a relaxed personality, an openness to opportunities are several positive luck factors. It’s a complex phenomenon. There are several very popular Luck Factor books available. Here is a Link to a video interview with one renown researcher in this controversial field, Professor Richard Wiseman:

    That’s my special lagniappe to you. Wiseman is a very entertaining and engaging fellow; he is also a talented magician. He offers several entertaining oddity-focused presentations on the Internet.
    Sorry that I did not participate in the first posting exchange. I just returned from a cruise and needed some catch-up time. Besides, the MFO members who did join the fray did a wonderful and helpful job at uncovering and explaining the salient issues. A hardy attaboy to all; there were many nice, effective contributions. The originating poster showed courage in defending his positions. He too warrants an attaboy.
    Also, I really wanted to expand the scope of these original exchanges into the Process and Luck fields.
    Best Regards.
  • Energy Investors Suggest 6 MLPs To Buy Now
    So 2 people suggest some MLP's for you to buy intermixed with Barron's skeptical comments of the MLP investment arena in general. Hmmm. I note that the author also threw in reference to the recent Barron's article slamming The Kinder Morgan group even though their take has been debunked repeatedly by others who actually knew what they were talking about. Hmmm again.
    For an interesting discussion on the relative merits of Barron's relevance these days you might want to check out this recent M* Fidelity Investments discussion thread:
    http://socialize.morningstar.com/NewSocialize/forums/p/336253/3521670.aspx#3521670
  • Dodge and Cox proxy vote
    Thanks msf, as usual. I checked with Schwab this morning and got a "no," but maybe there was a misunderstanding. I (and other members of my family) own D&C funds direct with D&C, so we will be voting for sure. I might even decide to attend the meeting in April if it's open to regular shareholders, although I think I may be in DC about that time. Will see.
    I just checked with D&C and it is indeed open to mere mortals. And I will be in town after all, so right now I plan to attend.
    It will be held Wednesday, April 23 at 10am. The address: 555 California Street, San Francisco, CA in the Memorial Auditorium. DF King is the company handling the voting. At the meeting, they will review the seven proposals. If interested, bring ballet and ID. I believe the building is the old BofA Center.
  • Dodge and Cox proxy vote
    Do only the direct holders get the proxy materials? I have an IRA through Fidelity brokerage and don't get any notifications about them.

    All share holders of record as of 2/14 are entitled to vote. The link is
    here. You'll need to contact your brokerage if they haven't sent you your control number.
    If you've signed up for electronic delivery of proxies, you can find them at Fidelity here:
    http://www.fidelity.com/proxymaterials (you'll need to be logged in for this to work)
    I'm curious about people's objection to proposal 4 (other than DODIX investors). Exactly the same restriction is being kept in place. What is being changed is how easy it will be for D&C to alter/remove the restriction in the future. (A fundamental restriction is being made nonfundamental, i.e. not needing shareholder approval to change.)
    Unlike the other proposals, D&C is not saying that they want to change an investment policy now. If/when they do want to change that policy, it will be less expensive for shareholders - D&C won't need to hold another meeting and have more proxy ballots. And if they do change the illiquid securities restriction some time in the future, then one can think about selling.
    (For DODIX, there is a current change - the amount of illiquid securities allowed is raised from 10% to 15%.)
  • Energy Investors Suggest 6 MLPs To Buy Now
    FYI:
    Regards,
    Ted
    Copy & Paste Barron's Dimitra Defotis
    Investors packed the Metropolitan Club in Manhattan Thursday to hear from experts on master limited partnerships. After a decade of beating the stock market, MLPs—which are mostly energy infrastructure companies—lagged in 2012 and produced a total return of about 28% last year, just behind the broader market. Investors prize them for their juicy, tax-advantaged yields, but valuations are getting a bit rich, as noted in Barron's latest MLP roundtable.
    Still, investors continue to flock to new MLPs and MLP funds. One big reason: an average payout of about 6%. Plus, they offer exposure to the boom in North American oil-and-gas production, and with billions in planned infrastructure spending over the next decade, the best players should continue to do well.
    Against that backdrop, Barron's asked two money managers presenting at Capital Link's Master Limited Partnership Investing Forum for their top MLP picks now. Two themes emerged: first, the desirability of crude oil and natural gas liquids, over natural gas; second, the importance of diversity, geographic and otherwise.
    Opening the festivities at the club was Kyri Loupis, head of energy and infrastructure at Goldman Sachs Asset Management, who manages MLP portfolios and two publicly traded funds. He likes smaller MLPs with strong growth prospects, healthy balance sheets and small distribution obligations to general partners. His picks:
    • Oiltanking Partners (ticker: OILT): $2.9 billion market value. It is in the crude-oil logistics business. With major crude-oil delivery bottlenecks, Oiltanking's positions in the Houston ship channel are valuable. Its yield, at 2.7%, is less than half the MLP average, but Loupis expects distribution growth of 18% annually over three years, and its distribution coverage ratio—the partnership's cash flow after maintenance capital spending and general-partner payments, divided by current distributions—is very strong at 1.9 times. A number above 1 is considered healthy. Debt, at 1.3 times earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, is about one-third that of other MLPs.
    • Lehigh Gas Partners (LGP): $404 million market value; 7.5% yield. It owns and leases real estate tied to retail fuel distribution at 700 locations in the Northeast, Florida and Ohio. Loupis expects distribution growth of 8% annually over the next three years as Lehigh expands its wholesale distribution network. The coverage ratio is 1.46 times, and a low percentage of total distributions goes to the general partner. It is still undiscovered, and not part of the benchmark Alerian MLP index.
    • EQT Midstream Partners (EQM): $3.1 billion market value; 2.8% yield. It is focused on natural gas gathering, transmission and storage, mostly in the Appalachian basin. It was carved in 2012 from parent EQT (EQT). Loupis believes that the parent company could—and should—sell pipelines and other midstream assets to the MLP, which would unlock more value in the limited partner. Loupis projects distribution growth of 15% to 20% or more annually over the next three years, supporting yield growth.
    One interesting note: Loupis does not hold any Kinder Morgan businesses in his two funds. The four companies in the Kinder empire— Kinder Morgan Energy Partners (KMP), Kinder Morgan Management (KMR), Kinder Morgan Inc. (KMI) and El Paso Pipeline Partners (EPB)—were the subject of a recent Barron's cover story. Barron's wrote that Kinder Morgan makes aggressive assumptions in its accounting. (See "Kinder Morgan: Trouble in the Pipelines," Feb. 22.)
    Dan Spears, a portfolio manager at Swank Capital, a Dallas-based asset manager with an MLP focus, still likes large pipeline players (including some Kinder-related stocks). His top picks:
    • Access Midstream Partners (ACMP): $10.8 billion market value; 3.9% yield. It owns gas gathering and processing assets and has leadership positions in some less-developed fields with growing production. Spears expects distribution growth of 15% to 20% per year. Distribution coverage is strong at about 1.5 times. It has budgeted $3.5 billion for capital spending between 2013 and 2015, which should boost volumes and expand desirable fixed-fee contracts.
    • Energy Transfer Equity (ETE): $25 billion market value; 3.1% yield. It is a leading natural gas pipeline operator. But acquisitions of natural gas liquids (NGL) and crude logistics businesses have diversified its operations. There is strong demand for gas liquids, which contain propane, from industrial and retail customers. Spears thinks ETE's price should rise at least 20% to reflect the value of these businesses. Distribution growth looks steady.
    • NGL Energy Partners (NGL): $3 billion market value; 5.9% yield. Acquisitions have diversified the business, and were accomplished at good prices since NGL's public offering in 2011. It is in the crude oil, propane and water service business, but is not well covered by analysts. Spears thinks there are growth opportunities in dealing with wastewater and providing water used in drilling. Good distribution growth and distribution coverage.
    How long can the MLP profits keep flowing? A skeptic in the audience, apparently fatigued with industry bullishness, asked Spears a sobering question: Who is not positioned well in the energy space? Spears named three areas: Broadly, Europe loses because it doesn't have cheap natural gas as a feedstock to compete in refining and manufacturing. In the U.S., natural gas producers will see low prices for a while. And some long-distance pipelines face obsolescence, unable to match supply with demand.
    "Expectations need to come down a little bit for MLP returns from last year. We expect total returns of between 8% and 12% in 2014," Spears told Barrons.com. "But MLPs are not necessarily expensive if you look at their investing and growth prospects."
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  • FAAFX Breaking Out...and Some Thoughts on M* Coverage of Fairholme Funds
    I'm not positive, but I think there is a final subjective call on which metal to assign to a fund if any. Just because a fund scores 5 positives on the five pillars doesn't automatically earn it a gold.
    I'd be surprised if M* deliberately was looking for a flaw for FAIRX in its pillar system.
    I agree that the 1% fee is fair, but it's not a screaming bargain as it would be if it were .75% or .65%. DODGX, after all, is .52% - so I can't really fault them for giving a neutral to FAIRX for its (very fair) 1% fee.
    I don't agree that M* "holds a grudge" or is angry with BB. M* certainly understands what he is doing and why as well as anyone does. I think they are approaching the situation just as I would if I were they. (please note good grammer)
    FAIRX is very likely to be an outlier when it comes to performance. To call it "non-diversified" is to make a vast understatement. As it is presently constituted, it doesn't even look like a mutual fund at all. Several years ago when M* "fawned over it" it had a good slug of Berkshire and was at least moderately well-diversified.
    I am thinking M* simply does not want to go "all-in" on FAIRX. They probably believe that "Silver" strikes a good balance between the high past performance plus their assessment of BB as a manager vs. the uncertainty of future performance as compared to a fully diversifies fund.
    (Full disclosure -- big BB fan with an over-sized position in FAIRX.
  • (New) Open Thread: What Are You Buying/Selling/Pondering
    I'll weigh in here since I think most active funds are over priced.
    Better than active
    http://quote.morningstar.com/fund/chart.aspx?t=BRTNX&region=USA&culture=en-US&statePara={securities:[{n:"Bretton Fund",ids:"F00000J732|0P0000P5VU|CU$$$$$USD|1|1|FO|2010-9-30|||false|USA|16"},{n:"Mid-Cap Blend",ids:"$FOCA$MB$$|$FOCA$MB$$|CU$$$$$USD|1|1|CA||||true|USA|0"},{n:"S&P 500 TR USD",ids:"XIUSA04G92|0P00001MK8|CU$$$$$USD|1|1|XI||||true|USA|0"},{n:"Vanguard Extended Market Index ETF",ids:"FEUSA00037|0P00002DB2|CU$$$$$USD|1|1|FE|2001-12-27|||false|USA|16"}],chartType:"GrowthChart",range:"2010-9-30|2014-3-6",period:9,region:"USA",tc:"USD",isD:"0",isR:"0",rM:3,scale:"1",bMenu:"",sma:"0,0,0"}
    I compare everybody against D&C, which is only 0.53 for DODGX and 0.65 for DODWX (global). Single share class. No load.
    My back goes up at anything over 1%, unless it is long short, hedged, or perhaps EM.
    I'm OK with young funds to be higher on low AUM. But, I really want to see that come down as AUM grows.
    If I remember, BB capped ER at 1%, even when FAIRX launched.
    Reading David, I think he's a bit more fundamental and flexible. He looks to see if the manager adds value, evidenced ultimately by superior returns over long run.
  • (New) Open Thread: What Are You Buying/Selling/Pondering
    I'll weigh in here since I think most active funds are over priced.
    I compare everybody against D&C, which is only 0.53 for DODGX and 0.65 for DODWX (global). Single share class. No load.
    My back goes up at anything over 1%, unless it is long short, hedged, or perhaps EM.
    I'm OK with young funds to be higher on low AUM. But, I really want to see that come down as AUM grows.
    If I remember, BB capped ER at 1%, even when FAIRX launched.
    Reading David, I think he's a bit more fundamental and flexible. He looks to see if the manager adds value, evidenced ultimately by superior returns over long run.
  • (New) Open Thread: What Are You Buying/Selling/Pondering
    @STB65, what is the rationale for using ER as a yardstick for measuring (net) over or under performance? Just trying to understand.