>> The only thing that's obvious is that Krugman is either an idiot or he's blatantly lying.
Wow. What a thing to write. Talk about heat instead of light.
Here:
[Fatas]
Let me start with the obvious point: your debt is someone else's assets. http://fatasmihov.blogspot.com/2015/02/those-mountains-of-debt-and-assets.html>> counts the asset (all the Treasury bonds we hold are counted as assets in our net worth) but it doesn't count the debt.
Why do you think that is?
>> not about Americans and foreigners, it's about which Americans got the benefits and which Americans pay the costs.
right
>> The benefits have already been given. The costs have yet to be paid.
it is always this way !
>> We've been running annual deficits since the mid
1950s with only a couple years of surpluses at the end of Clinton's presidency.
So? It does not matter, all that matters is percentage of GDP.
>> I'll agree with Fatas, growing debt doesn't have to mean we're living beyond our means, but it sure looks that way.
You are not getting it, and I would say do not want to, but your writing is so clear and your interest in reading is manifestly so high, that cannot be the case. Keep reading is all I can suggest.
... Except if you really think Paul Krugman is 'not even close', well, then, no, there is no point in more reading. Quite aside from his being idiotic or blatant liar.
The below is rather deep in the weeds, but may be of interest. Maurice above for example thinks there is a real problem with Paul Samuelson as he read him and the sophisticated views on debt needs and levels today:
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2013/03/bill-black-is-justifiably-irate-monday-hoisted-from-comments-weblogging.htmlThis might help those who read Samuelson (Paul) in college:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/15/the-incomparable-economist/http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/14/samuelson-friedman-and-monetary-policy/comment-page-1/>> Fatas didn't say that debt isn't an indication that we're living beyond our means. He said it doesn't have to be.
Help me understand how this is something other than hairsplitting.
Finally, share what you think the answers are yourself, to whatever you say the problems are? Somehow cut more spending? What? Gold standard? Raise wealthy taxes back to 90%?