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I don't need to mention the whole thing each time. I have said hundreds of times seen that that Buffet said "Diversification is a protection against ignorance" and his second choice is the SP500.Investing in SC or anywhere else is your choice.
When someone lags the most famous index in the world, the SP500, they pull out the DIVERSIFICATION card.
Buffett said the following: "Diversification is a protection against ignorance".
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A fund manager is good as his last 6-12 months of performance.
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There you go again - quoting Buffett out of context!
Warren Buffett talking to MBA students:"If you are not a professional investor; if your goal is not to manage in such a way that you
get a significantly better return than the world, then I believe in extreme diversification.
I believe that 98 or 99 percent —maybe more than 99 percent—
of people who invest should extensively diversify and not trade.
That leads them to an index fund with very low costs.
All they’re going to do is own a part of America.
They’ve made a decision that owning a part of America is worthwhile.
I don’t quarrel with that at all. That is the way they should approach it."
financinglife.org/learn-how-to-invest/warren-buffett-on-diversification/
S&P 500 index funds have proven to be good long-term investments.
However, it's ridiculous to benchmark all funds against the S&P 500 regardless of investment styles
and objectives. It's interesting when someone who invests in a way which is diametrically opposed
to Mr. Buffett's approach periodically "quotes" Buffett nonetheless.
I strongly disagree that "A fund manager is good as his last 6-12 months of performance."
Even the very best fund managers will underperform from time to time.
Should investors move in/out of funds based on short-term performance?
These actions often lead to excessive trading and inferior returns¹.
Numerous studies have indicated frequent trading is hazardous to one's wealth.
¹ Skilled traders can generate excellent returns. They are few and far in between.
Thanks BaluBalu.What do other absolute return funds use for benchmarks?
Since no one answered in 12 hours, I will venture - from memory I think it is 3 mo T-Bills index. Basically, cash.
The fund's own use of benchmark was in JD's post from yesterday. That is what any investor not engaging in discussion at MFO would use, and it is not the benchmark used by Absolute Return funds.
Investing in SC or anywhere else is your choice.
When someone lags the most famous index in the world, the SP500, they pull out the DIVERSIFICATION card.
Buffett said the following: "Diversification is a protection against ignorance".
[snip]
A fund manager is good as his last 6-12 months of performance.
[snip]
Each person's needs, spending patterns, and mental acuity differ.I have a BoA card that pays 5.25% for all online purchases and 3.5% for groceries. Costco Citi membership card which I also use for travel pays back 5% on gas and travel. For everything else (tax payment, health insurance, P&C insurance, etc.) have another BoA card that pays 2.62%. They all are Visa. I will not be getting another card (or an Apple card) unless it is better benefits than the 2.62% BoA card and potentially a master card. I do not have a mental bandwidth for more than 3 cards!
Since no one answered in 12 hours, I will venture - from memory I think it is 3 mo T-Bills index. Basically, cash.What do other absolute return funds use for benchmarks?
Description reads like a credit fund and not a hybrid allocation fund. May be the hybrid is public- private credit hybrid?Capital and KKR are planning a series of hybrid funds that will invest in both publicly and privately traded assets. The first two strategies, expected to launch next year, will hold about 60% in public bonds picked by Capital managers, and 40% in direct and asset-based loans sourced by KKR.
These are likely the asset allocation or balanced funds. Really have to monitor these funds as they evolve.
TRP has a global allocation fund with 10% in private equity, and the fund is very average in performance for a number of years.
Yup. I didn't like the (then) 10-15% Blackstone Black Box they were promoting in RPGAX. I was interested in the fund to compliment PRWCX but I like knowing what I own!Capital and KKR are planning a series of hybrid funds that will invest in both publicly and privately traded assets. The first two strategies, expected to launch next year, will hold about 60% in public bonds picked by Capital managers, and 40% in direct and asset-based loans sourced by KKR.
These are likely the asset allocation or balanced funds. Really have to monitor these funds as they evolve.
TRP has a global allocation fund with 10% in private equity, and the fund is very average in performance for a number of years.
And I already commented that this IS NOT an absolute fund.As shipwrecked mentioned....If you actually look at Palm Valley's website, it refers to ABSOLUTE RETURN Investing...."Focused on Absolute Returns"....in large letters.
These are likely the asset allocation or balanced funds. Really have to monitor these funds as they evolve.Capital and KKR are planning a series of hybrid funds that will invest in both publicly and privately traded assets. The first two strategies, expected to launch next year, will hold about 60% in public bonds picked by Capital managers, and 40% in direct and asset-based loans sourced by KKR.
So are you mainly invested in a S&P 500 index fund then?PVCMX made about half of the SP500 for 5 years, so it's not alright. :-)
Good established funds don't guarantee anything either, remember that over long time the SP500 beats most funds because it's formula is very efficient.
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