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  • even more evidence about not beating the market
    Lots of investors like to beat these annual/historic active PM vs passive statistics* to death.
    But inside those numbers, and usually left out of these endless (IMO, usually worthless) discussions and articles, you can find PMs/funds that consistently, and over most/sometimes all of the interim periods, beat the indexes.
    Those are the PMs/actively managed funds you want to own. (Read it s-l-o-w-l-y and try to understand it.)
    If an investor does not know which PMs/funds those are, or can't scope them out, then, yeah, go ahead and invest in the indexes, and use the widely ballyhooed statistics as your justification.
    And no, I have no plans to spoon-feed what I consider the best PMs and/or actively managed funds as posters on this forum are more than capable of finding them, or are already invested in them.
    That said, we are current and LT holders of FSELX, a classic example of how rewarding it is if an investor can identify just ONE of the best of the best. Back in the day, almost 100% of our portfolio was in FLPSX during Tillinghast's glory days. Before that, ditto for Lynch's Magellan.
    In semi-plain English: The % of PMs who beat the indexes for a given period is largely comprised of that period's hot PMs/funds, and the ones who consistently do it.
    *Three kinds of Lies:
    1. Lies
    2. Damned lies
    3. Statistics
    EDIT: FWIW, I am 85% active and 15% passive, about my usual allocation.
  • even more evidence about not beating the market
    It's more than simply an AUM-weighted average of fund returns. It considers cash flows - investor dollars going in and out - and calculates how much each extra investor dollar earns. That's still asset weighted, though the assets being weighted are those attributable to investor trades rather than assets under management.
    https://awgmain.morningstar.com/webhelp/InvestorReturnsFactSheet.pdf
    It's not perfect. A single large investor with lousy timing can skew the results to the downside. Much as a few billionaires can make it seem like average workers are earning a whole lot more than they are.
    "Closest" is a matter of perspective. Take a category returning, say, 8.04%, and let's say the average investor dollar returns 0.69% less. The investors are failing to capture 8.58% of that 8.04% return.
    Compare that with a category returning 13.2%, where the average investor dollar returns
    1.17% less. The investors are failing to capture 8.86% of that 13.2%.
    Investors are failing to capture nearly the same fraction of returns either way. Those figures are what M* calculated for allocation/balanced funds and for domestic equity funds from 2010 to 2020.
    https://www.morningstar.com/articles/1056151/why-fund-returns-are-lower-than-you-might-think
    Perhaps the investors aren't sticking around longer for the allocation/balanced funds. The differences in the category "gaps" (as M* calls the 0.69% underperformance) could be due primarily to the relative magnitude of category returns.
    If one category returns 1.5x that of another category (with exactly the same performance graph, just 1.5x the amplitude), then one would expect the "gap" for that category to naturally be 1.5x as large as well.
  • Fidelity Private CRE Fund
    - I've never heard of a 1031 exchange for a MLP (does not mean it can't be done and based on a light skim I agree with you that there is no blocker) so perhaps there's not much benefit to it.
    - The PIG/PAL restriction for MLP's is quite material compared to no such restriction for real estate
    - Aspen article I agree is tilted towards private RE but imo it still paints a fair picture of public REIT's vs. private RE.
  • Fidelity Private CRE Fund
    It's easy to see that REITs and MLPs get different tax treatment. The former falls under corporate tax rules (with significant exceptions), while the latter falls under partnership tax rules.
    REITs are defined in the tax code (26 U.S. Code §856) as entities taxed as corporations with certain enumerated exceptions (26 U.S. Code §857), such as pass through income. In contrast, Master Limited Partnerships are partnerships taxed under Subchapter K - Partners and Partnerships
    There's nothing in the tax code that is specific to MLPs. Though, since the vast majority (but not all) of MLPs are publicly traded partnerships (PTPs) - a subcategory of partnerships - PTP special rules usually apply to MLPs.
    Here's an example of a restriction specific to PTPs (and thus to most MLPs): one cannot offset net income from a PTP (a PIG) with passive losses (PALs) from any other entity, whether PTP or not.
    CCH, Passive Activity Losses of Publicly Traded Partnerships
    Unless there's a similar special rule that prohibits PTPs from doing 1031 exchanges, then they have the same ability to do 1031 exchanges as do "regular" partnerships.
    As to the piece on private REITs, it says (emphasis in original):
    Private REITs technically don’t exist (except for a temporary designation given to a pre-public REIT). It is really just a marketing term to communicate to investors they are buying pools of real estate like a REIT, but in a private company.
    When most people refer to a ‘private REIT,’ what they mean is private equity real estate. Private equity real estate is another phrase investors may have heard, and mostly is interchangeable with Private REITs (except for those “pre-public” REITs).
    Private equity real estate investments are generally held in LLCs, meaning they are non-tax-paying, pass-through entities.
    Who'dve thunk that one could not have a private offering of a real, honest to goodness REIT? That it's all just marketing hype. If only we could find a counterexample - an actual private offering of a REIT. Where to look, where to look.
    How about the Fidelity offering?
    The cover page of the offering is titled in part: Private Placement Memorandum. And the Form D says that it is exempt from SEC registration under Rule 506(b). Clearly this is a private offering.
    The first paragraph of the memo ends with (emphasis in original): "We expect to qualify as a real estate investment trust (“REIT’) for federal income tax purposes."
    In a nutshell, this is why I look to the tax code, SEC regulations and the like. Anything coming from a company with a vested interest in a product may be helpful but is also suspect.
  • Reorganization at Rondure Global Advisors
    Received this email this afternoon:
    April 13, 2023
    Dear Fellow Shareholders,
    You recently received a supplement to the prospectus of the Rondure Global Funds dated February 23, 2023, with information about an upcoming shareholder meeting. The purpose of the meeting, as outlined in the supplement, is a shareholder vote about a proposal to reorganize the funds from their existing trust (Financial Investors Trust or FIT) into a new trust in order to move the funds' back-office service provider from SS&C (formerly ALPS) to Ultimus Fund Solutions. The reorganizations are expected to be tax-free for federal income tax purposes. There will be no impact on the ownership of Rondure Global Advisors, or on our team or investment process.
    Some of you have been asking about the shareholder meeting date, which was originally set for April 12. Due to unforeseen delays in the filing process, the mailing of meeting materials was postponed. As a result, the shareholder meeting date has been rescheduled to May 31, 2023. You will soon receive a new prospectus supplement announcing the new date.
    You or your designee will also be receiving in the coming weeks a proxy statement and other materials with information about the reorganization, including voting instructions.
    If you have additional questions after you receive the mailing, please feel free to contact me directly.
    Thank you for your help,
    Sunshine Stein
  • Bloomberg Real Yield
    14 April, 2023:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2023-04-14/-bloomberg-real-yield-04-14-2023
    Thumbs-up on short-dated TIPs. The jury is out on whether Fed will hike by .25% next time. Short-duration Treasuries and corporates, yes.
    It's all about prudence and safety.
    But G. Bory says extending duration by now does make sense. (Still not talking about junk. Later in the show, he asserts he selectively likes junk). Rodilosso finds junk and corporates "relatively attractive," particularly BBs.
    Video clip: O'Connor Juanas of UBS: IG fixed income and Treasuries look particularly good. Reduced risk, decent yield, currently.
    Near the end, the "footer" proclaims: "Junk's longest winning run in 3 months."
  • even more evidence about not beating the market
    ALMOST makes the entire managed (non-index) MF industry seem like a scam...
    "Consider these tallies for funds that invest in S&P 500 stocks through the end of 2022:
    Over three years, 74.3 percent of actively managed funds trailed the index.
    Over five years, 86.5 percent underperformed.
    Over 10 years, 91.4 percent underperformed.
    Over 20 years, 94.8 percent underperformed."
  • even more evidence about not beating the market
    I don't make much of articles that lump everybody together. Unless you are willing to really look at you goals and risk tolerances and investigate how a particular manger fits, you are better off in a passive funds, but ones based on the broadest market possible.
    The extreme out performance of FAANMG or whatever in the last few years has distorted everything.
    I do think it is fair to ask mangers who are 100% invested if they beat their respective benchmark over time.
    I tend to think "active management" should also include knowing when the market is too expensive and the potential long term return unattractive and be able to raise cash for a margin of safety.
  • City National Rochdale Intermediate Fixed Income Fund to be liquidated
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1026977/000139834423007351/fp0083232-1_497.htm
    497 1 fp0083232-1_497.htm
    CITY NATIONAL ROCHDALE FUNDS
    CITY NATIONAL ROCHDALE INTERMEDIATE FIXED INCOME FUND
    Servicing Class (CNRCX)
    Institutional Class (CNRIX)
    Class N (RIMCX)
    Supplement dated April 14, 2023, to the Prospectus and the Statement of Additional Information dated January 31, 2023
    The Board of Trustees of City National Rochdale Funds has approved a Plan of Liquidation for the City National Rochdale Intermediate Fixed Income Fund (the “Fund”), which authorizes the termination, liquidation, and dissolution of the Fund. In order to effect such liquidation, effective as of the close of business on April 18, 2023, the Fund will be closed to all investments by existing shareholders, and no new Fund accounts may be opened. Shareholders may redeem their shares until the date of liquidation.
    The Fund will be liquidated on or about May 26, 2023 (the “Liquidation Date”), and shareholders may voluntarily redeem their shares until the Liquidation Date. Prior to the Liquidation Date, the Fund may declare and pay its shareholders of record one or more dividends or other distributions consisting of any undistributed income and net realized capital gains. On or promptly after the Liquidation Date, the Fund will make a liquidating distribution to its remaining shareholders equal to each shareholder’s proportionate interest in the net assets of the Fund, in complete redemption and cancellation of the Fund’s shares held by the shareholder, and the Fund will be dissolved.
    In anticipation of the liquidation of the Fund, City National Rochdale, LLC, the Fund’s adviser, may manage the Fund in a manner intended to facilitate its orderly liquidation, such as by raising cash or making investments in other highly liquid assets. As a result, during this time, all or a portion of the Fund may not be invested in a manner consistent with its stated investment strategies, which may prevent the Fund from achieving its investment objective.
    Please contact the Fund at 1-888-889-0799 if you have any questions.
    Important Information for Shareholders with IRA Accounts
    If you hold your shares in an IRA, you should consult your tax adviser regarding the liquidation of the Fund. You may have 60 days from the date you receive your proceeds to “roll over” your proceeds into another IRA and maintain their tax-deferred status. You must notify the Fund prior to the Liquidation Date of your intent to roll over your IRA account to avoid federal and potential state withholding deductions from your proceeds. If the Fund has not received your redemption request or other instruction, your shares will be liquidated on the Liquidation Date, and you will receive your proceeds from the Fund, subject to any required withholding.
    If you have questions or need assistance, please contact a shareholder services representative of the Fund at 1-888-889-0799.
    *****
    PLEASE RETAIN THIS SUPPLEMENT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.
    CNR-SK- 070-010
  • City National Rochdale Government Bond Fund to be liquidated
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1026977/000139834423007354/fp0083232-2_497.htm
    497 1 fp0083232-2_497.htm
    CITY NATIONAL ROCHDALE FUNDS
    CITY NATIONAL ROCHDALE GOVERNMENT BOND FUND
    Servicing Class (CNBIX)
    Class N (CGBAX)
    Supplement dated April 14, 2023, to the Prospectus and the Statement of Additional Information dated January 31, 2023
    The Board of Trustees of City National Rochdale Funds has approved a Plan of Liquidation for the City National Rochdale Government Bond Fund (the “Fund”), which authorizes the termination, liquidation, and dissolution of the Fund. In order to effect such liquidation, effective as of the close of business on April 18, 2023, the Fund will be closed to all investments by existing shareholders, and no new Fund accounts may be opened. Shareholders may redeem their shares until the date of liquidation.
    The Fund will be liquidated on or about May 26, 2023 (the “Liquidation Date”), and shareholders may voluntarily redeem their shares until the Liquidation Date. Prior to the Liquidation Date, the Fund may declare and pay its shareholders of record one or more dividends or other distributions consisting of any undistributed income and net realized capital gains. On or promptly after the Liquidation Date, the Fund will make a liquidating distribution to its remaining shareholders equal to each shareholder’s proportionate interest in the net assets of the Fund, in complete redemption and cancellation of the Fund’s shares held by the shareholder, and the Fund will be dissolved.
    In anticipation of the liquidation of the Fund, City National Rochdale, LLC, the Fund’s adviser, may manage the Fund in a manner intended to facilitate its orderly liquidation, such as by raising cash or making investments in other highly liquid assets. As a result, during this time, all or a portion of the Fund may not be invested in a manner consistent with its stated investment strategies, which may prevent the Fund from achieving its investment objective.
    Please contact the Fund at 1-888-889-0799 if you have any questions.
    Important Information for Shareholders with IRA Accounts
    If you hold your shares in an IRA, you should consult your tax adviser regarding the liquidation of the Fund. You may have 60 days from the date you receive your proceeds to “roll over” your proceeds into another IRA and maintain their tax-deferred status. You must notify the Fund prior to the Liquidation Date of your intent to roll over your IRA account to avoid federal and potential state withholding deductions from your proceeds. If the Fund has not received your redemption request or other instruction, your shares will be liquidated on the Liquidation Date, and you will receive your proceeds from the Fund, subject to any required withholding.
    If you have questions or need assistance, please contact a shareholder services representative of the Fund at 1-888-889-0799.
    *****
    PLEASE RETAIN THIS SUPPLEMENT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.
    CNR-SK- 073-0100
  • City National Rochdale Corporate Bond Fund to be liquidated
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1026977/000139834423007355/fp0083232-3_497.htm
    497 1 fp0083232-3_497.htm
    CITY NATIONAL ROCHDALE FUNDS
    CITY NATIONAL ROCHDALE CORPORATE BOND FUND
    Servicing Class (CNCIX)
    Class N (CCBAX)
    Supplement dated April 14, 2023, to the Prospectus and the Statement of Additional Information dated January 31, 2023
    The Board of Trustees of City National Rochdale Funds has approved a Plan of Liquidation for the City National Rochdale Corporate Bond Fund (the “Fund”), which authorizes the termination, liquidation, and dissolution of the Fund. In order to effect such liquidation, effective as of the close of business on April 18, 2023, the Fund will be closed to all investments by existing shareholders, and no new Fund accounts may be opened. Shareholders may redeem their shares until the date of liquidation.
    The Fund will be liquidated on or about May 26, 2023 (the “Liquidation Date”), and shareholders may voluntarily redeem their shares until the Liquidation Date. Prior to the Liquidation Date, the Fund may declare and pay its shareholders of record one or more dividends or other distributions consisting of any undistributed income and net realized capital gains. On or promptly after the Liquidation Date, the Fund will make a liquidating distribution to its remaining shareholders equal to each shareholder’s proportionate interest in the net assets of the Fund, in complete redemption and cancellation of the Fund’s shares held by the shareholder, and the Fund will be dissolved.
    In anticipation of the liquidation of the Fund, City National Rochdale, LLC, the Fund’s adviser, may manage the Fund in a manner intended to facilitate its orderly liquidation, such as by raising cash or making investments in other highly liquid assets. As a result, during this time, all or a portion of the Fund may not be invested in a manner consistent with its stated investment strategies, which may prevent the Fund from achieving its investment objective.
    Please contact the Fund at 1-888-889-0799 if you have any questions.
    Important Information for Shareholders with IRA Accounts
    If you hold your shares in an IRA, you should consult your tax adviser regarding the liquidation of the Fund. You may have 60 days from the date you receive your proceeds to “roll over” your proceeds into another IRA and maintain their tax-deferred status. You must notify the Fund prior to the Liquidation Date of your intent to roll over your IRA account to avoid federal and potential state withholding deductions from your proceeds. If the Fund has not received your redemption request or other instruction, your shares will be liquidated on the Liquidation Date, and you will receive your proceeds from the Fund, subject to any required withholding.
    If you have questions or need assistance, please contact a shareholder services representative of the Fund at 1-888-889-0799.
    *****
    PLEASE RETAIN THIS SUPPLEMENT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.
    CNR-SK- 072-0100
  • Fidelity Private CRE Fund
    I'm comparing private CRE partnerships(LP role) to publicly traded MLP's where one is an individual investor. I suppose there are partnerships that invest in energy/pipelines but to my knowledge these are far less in number than partnerships focussed on real estate.
    1031 exchange within a RE partnership is messy and complicated I agree but it is available as an option vs. not being available at all to an individual investor holding publicly traded MLP's(to the best of my knowledge).
    Here are a few articles(pre-Covid days so some of the ground reality has certainly changed) comparing REIT's and MLP's. The last link is a compare between public and private REIT's.
    https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/reits-vs-mlps-assessing-the-better-high-yield-play-50484675
    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4244108-reits-vs-mlps-which-is-better-investment REITs Vs. MLPs: Which Is The Better Investment?
    https://aspenfunds.us/articles/breakdown-reits-private-reits/
  • Fidelity Private CRE Fund
    I'm writing about tax code and generalities while you're presenting specific tax situations and experiences. We're simply talking at cross purposes. As we're coming from different perspectives, I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. That doesn't mean I can't ramble on a little more.
    I have owned publicly traded MLP's that generate K1's and they're nowhere close to the depreciation that private REIT's generate.
    FWIW, here are a couple more generalities I've managed to locate. Clearly, they don't represent your experience.
    Typically, 70-100% of MLP distributions have been considered a tax-deferred return of capital, which means one does not pay taxes on that portion of the distribution until the investor sells his or her position.
    https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/understanding-the-tax-benefits-of-mlps
    Each individual MLP is different, but on average an MLPs distribution is usually around 80% to 90% a return of capital, and 10% to 20% ordinary income.
    https://www.suredividend.com/mlp-list/
    I don't think 1031 exchanges are do-able with MLP'S
    Partners cannot to 1031 exchanges, because what they own are fractions of the partnership, not the real property itself. That's owned by the partnership. So it is technically it is the partnership that must do the exchange.
    Here are a couple of pages that talk about how a partnership can do an exchange:
    https://www.exeterco.com/article_1031_exchange_partnership_interests
    https://provident1031.com/can-an-llc-do-a-1031-exchange/
    The simplest description is:
    All partners can sell their existing properties together and buy a replacement property together. This is because Section 1031 mandates that the same taxpayer must do all exchanges – so a multi-member LLC can also participate so long as it doesn’t change the structure.
    Typically MLPs have two tiers - (1) the MLP itself owned by the investors, and (2) the operating limited partnership (OLP) that is wholly owned by the MLP. It is the OLP that owns the actual real property.
    https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/master-limited-partnerships-77967/
    I'm not seeing how this has any effect on the ability of an OLP to do a 1031 exchange. An OLP looks like just another partnership (albeit with a single owner, the MLP). Is there anything you see in this structure that suggests an OLP cannot do a 1031 exchange?
  • Fidelity Private CRE Fund
    We'll have to agree to disagree.
    I am referring to LP's in a partnership as you stated.
    I have owned publicly traded MLP's that generate K1's and they're nowhere close to the depreciation that private REIT's generate.
    I don't think 1031 exchanges are do-able with MLP'S so can't do defer, defer, die.
    I agree with your point of the passive losses of real estate not being useful to everyone but the depreciation benefit is so material that the limited utility of PAL is not relevant.
    The way I see it, the fact that prior depreciation rules were more beneficial than current ones is not material because what matters is the menu of investment options available today and what provides the highest after tax $$ in your pocket. And private real estate partnerships fare well amongst the choices.
    All of above of course are my views based on my tax situation, cash flow needs and risk appetite. Very rarely is there a one size fits all solution in investing so certainly someone could look at the same facts and come to the opposite conclusion.
  • Fidelity Private CRE Fund
    The ability of LP's in a real estate private LLC to get the benefits of depreciation that shields most of the tax impacts of the distributions is massive.
    I think you're talking about the LLC members who are not managing members. For clarity it might be simpler to call the companies partnerships, and the owners LPs and GPs. Especially since for federal tax purposes LLCs don't exist.
    A Limited Liability Company (LLC) is a business structure allowed by state statute. ... Owners of an LLC are called members.
    ...
    Depending on elections made by the LLC and the number of members, the IRS will treat an LLC as either a corporation, partnership, or [a sole proprietorship].
    https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/limited-liability-company-llc
    A real estate private partnership (LLC) is able to get depreciation benefits, but so is a public partnership (LLC) such as an MLP. The key differentiator is taxation as a partnership vs. taxation as a corporation. As you wrote, getting a K1 is key.
    Another lever available to LP's in real estate LLC's is the ability to pair passive losses against passive income (known as the PIGS/PAL strategy) to basically shield even more of the cash flow from taxes.
    That's been available "forever". The JOBS Act did not introduce this. Rather, the limitation of writing off of passive loss against only passive income was introduced by the 1986 TRA. Prior to that, an investor could write off passive losses against active income as well as passive income.
    Reiterating what I wrote before, the amount of depreciation (and thus the amount of passive loss) also used to be larger (front loaded and with shorter depreciation schedules).
    Perhaps this 1986 Washington Post article will help to clarify. It is titled "Try a PIG or a PAL"
    ... Beginning Jan. 1, Americans who have sunk dollars into limited partnerships, rental condominiums, duplexes and other forms of real estate investment will find new restrictions on their ability to write off losses.
    They will be stuck with a surfeit of unanticipated PALs, and be in dire need of some really fat PIGs.
    ...
    The most controversial section of the 1986 tax legislation classified virtually all real estate investments [other than first and second homes] as "passive," no matter how active they may be in reality.
    ...
    PALs, the economic and paper losses produced by so-called passive real estate, no longer can be used to offset income generated by salaries, dividends, bank accounts and other "nonpassive" income sources.
    ...
    Many real estate-partnership investors, however, own no rental homes. But, fortunately for them, an entire new subsector of American real estate investment is rising from the ashes of tax revision.
    Good old-fashioned Yankee ingenuity is creating a bumper crop of PIG partnerships -- real estate investments designed to make money passively. ... So-called master limited partnerships (MLPs) are currently in [this] category.
    ...
    Appearances to the contrary notwithstanding, MLPs are bona fide limited partnerships. More than 25 MLPs, worth upwards of $ 4 billion, have either come to market since the summer or have been registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Most are real estate related.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/realestate/1986/12/06/try-a-pig-or-a-pal/c9364c54-3251-4477-9e07-331a3dfe8af6/
    In short, looking strictly at tax rules, prior to 1987 one could front load depreciation of real estate in partnerships (or LLCs); so much so that one could have paper losses exceeding income generated. One could apply this massive paper loss against W2 income, 1099 income, etc. After TRA, one could not. This obviously made private real estate partnerships (LLC) less valuable and precipitated the crash in values that sma3 mentioned.
    There was a fairly recent tax change favoring real estate, but that came in 2017 after the JOBS Act. It's the Section 199A deduction.
    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/qualified-business-income-deduction
  • Fidelity Private CRE Fund
    I should have been more specific. The article's claim of private LLC's dying isn't true in today's world, most certainly not after the passage of the JOBS Act.
    The ability of LP's in a real estate private LLC to get the benefits of depreciation that shields most of the tax impacts of the distributions is massive. I didn't fully realize the magnitude of this impact until I personally saw it on my tax returns. Easily 80%+ of cash flow is not subject to yearly tax due to depreciation and distributions from these partnerships are in general much higher than public REIT's -ranging from 6 - 12%.
    Another lever available to LP's in real estate LLC's is the ability to pair passive losses against passive income (known as the PIGS/PAL strategy) to basically shield even more of the cash flow from taxes.
    Investors in public REIT's do not directly get the benefits of depreciation. 1031 exchange(I have not done any) is another lever to execute a strategy colloquially referred to as defer, defer and die.
    I'm not condoning the system (it is what it is, individual investors have no control on tax policy) but tax rules imo are ridiculously stacked in favor of property investors. Same applies for carried interest, a tax benefit that is today entirely disproportionate vs. the benefits to society.
    The most public example of the benefits of tax rules to property investors is Trump -- New York Times has extensively covered how Trump got away(legally) with declaring massive (paper) losses on property that shielded his real cash flow income for many years(more than 15 if I recall correctly). At much smaller scales, LP's and GP's in real estate LLC's are basically doing the same thing.
    Investors in Fidelity CRE would not(my guess) get the benefits of 1031 exchanges but the benefits of depreciation should flow directly to the LP's in the fund **assuming** the fund is structured similar to how private funds in general work(getting a K1 is key).
    Fidelity in general as an org is a sharp cookie and they run a fairly large business as a custodian of private LLC's so they have a front row and insider view of the economics, consumer interest and ROI(to Fidelity). I'm speculating of course but I can't imagine that Fidelity is launching this fund on a whim.
    EDIT
    I see on the term sheet that tax reporting is 1099-DIV so what I stated above mostly won't apply to this particular fund but notwithstanding that, I stand by my other comments on the disproportionate advantages of being an LP in a real estate LLC.
    I don't get what advantage accredited investors will get from this fund without a K1 that provides depreciation benefit but perhaps Fidelity's target is the mass affluent market that does not want to spend time scouring for reliable sponsors and trust in the Fidelity brand. Fidelity looks to be somewhat replicating the wildly successful BREIT fund.
  • Precious metals are breaking out
    I've lost tract of when that was @hank. Definitely Fund Alarm days. I think I started watching FA around 2006-7 or so so probably around that time. PMs and Asia EM were the hot sectors. Harry Brown's permanent portfolio was also talked about a lot. (rono might have called the consistent post 'asia and the metals' now that I think about it).
    Asia and the Metals “ was a morning staple on F/A. Already running when I came there sometime around 2000. But @rono may have posted it on an earlier board before F/A. Asia was a different animal geopolitically 25 years ago. Folks who then complained that Asian workers were taking away U.S. jobs now complain that the cheap items they bought at KMart / Walmart in those days cost a lot more today.
    Unfortunately, I cleared out my trading records back to about 10-15 years. Otherwise I’d have a better reference to say when I first tuned in to F/A. Was around the time I moved out of American Century funds. Posted a question re that matter to which Maurice responded. (Never throw anything away.) :)