50% of this fund is invested in 1 stock. yeah
the OP quoted from Barron's
Most of its recent gains came from just one stock, Tesla (TSLA), which accounts for 50% of its portfolio.
so I was not seeing the problem, not seeing any problem. Then you posted
It's hard to think of this as a mutual fund when 50% is in one stock.
(and the answer to your question 'Why not just buy that stock?' is that you still want active management, presumably.)
A colleague who writes European prospectuses ventured:
... if an investment policy violation occurs (over a maximum, under a minimum, bond downrated to below credit threshold, etc.), the manager must make it a priority to resolve the problem as soon as possible within the normal course of business. So you don't have to suddenly dump so many now-junk bonds on the market that you push down the price you get for them, because that is not in the shareholders' best interest --- which is the paramount test for anything a fund does or doesn't do, though somehow they've managed ways to persuade regulators that giant fees are in the shareholders' best interest.
But yes, you gotta ditch the stuff or, as likely, offset some of the exposure through short sales or derivatives or whatever. This is an actual reg, not just a policy, and is about diversification and smoothing out volatility, and it is so heart-and-soul a mutual fund feature that you gotta follow it, eventually.
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50% of this fund is invested in 1 stock. My impression is that as long as the purchases of the stock did not exceed 25% of the fund's assets, the manager can have as much of the stock as a percentage of the portfolio as they want if the stock has appreciated beyond that 25% threshold. I don't think they're required to sell the position down, but they wouldn't be able to add to it.
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TSUMX Franklin Income/FKIQX is misclassified as conservative-allocation/30-50% equity. When looking at its Relative-SD/Effective-Equity (65.8%; 73.6% for TSHIX), it is like moderate-allocation/50-70% equity. That can lead to unhappy experiences.
Edit/Add: Using PV for 33-month common run, the Relative-SDs/Effective-Equity are:
FKIQX 65.6%, TSHIX 73.6%, TSUMX 61.4%. So, all 3 are acting like moderate-allocation/50-70% equity.
50% of this fund is invested in 1 stock. Dumb question, must be missing something --- how does it (is it supposed to) work when one of the holdings increases just stupendously and thus goes far above some percentage threshold ? Are managers somehow obligated or mandated to sell to get the percentage of the total back down?
>> prohibits the fund from investing more than 25% of its assets in a single company.
Assuming investing also entails having, I guess the answer is managers are supposed to (quickly? is there a time schedule?) whittle down, or whatever the phrase is. Unless I am missing something.
TSUMX Has anyone looked at Franklin Income A FKIQX or Transamerica Multi-Asset Income I TSHIX also in 30-50% category?
BIVIX Davep:BIVIX Risk varies between 4 and 5 at MFOP. Max DD -14.1% 202003, Recovery months +3. MFO Great Owl (GO). Capture Ratio Overall vs. S&P is Up 72%, Down 4% = Overall U/D of 17.7% 500. Beaten S&P 500 in all periods since inception in all up-and-down periods.
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Just a matter of political will. And a reduction of GREED.
Perhaps using the word Just in this context is akin to waving a magic wand.
Here is a piece of the puzzle.....Within each nation and among rich and poor nations it is necessary to reach consensus related to "adequately" addressing the wants and needs of present day adult populations while simultaneously adequately setting aside resources to account for the wants and needs of the young and and the unborn. And, related to that, within each nation and among rich and poor nations it is necessary to determine who pays how much to achieve those goals (and then to successfully monitor and to adjust -- when climatic evidence dictates -- those commitments through extended time periods).......sounds like a tall order based on our checkered human history. Perhaps fumbling our way forward over an extended time frame and avoiding the worst possible outcome is likely (this coming from a person who began to advocate for substantially higher gas taxes
50 years ago as a way to reduce fossil fuel consumption and to account for the external costs associated with their use.) Here is
a current article about some of what fumbling our way forward may entail over the next 30 years. (Hawaii takes a relatively mild hit in this telling.)
TSUMX Team,
Please note avail at Schwab, Fidelity in IRA for $2500 minimum, not sure of other platforms. Holding up well YTD. WIthout using your qualified monies, bring your platinum checkbook or cash out your Bitcoin, then yes min's are high.
"For investors looking for inflation protection with a focus on risk adusted returns" We sure are, yes we are.
"Flexible, global mandate"
Been watching this one almost since it started. What peaked my interest is that I had good results with Thornburg Income Builder back in the day, way prior to 08'
It is NOT a "best idea" fund, has ability to short, very good returns so far.
In my no nothing opinion it might be one of the better allocation fund out there, might be a smaller more nimble and more conservative FPACX, dunno?
It might be one that you can hold thru thick and thin and come what may...and many grey beards feel there are storm clouds on the horizon.
Full Disclosure: I hold a noticeable 6-figure position in this fund and plan on sticking with this one. Do your own homework, do what is right for you and your situation, be careful.
Good Luck to All,
Baseball Fan
TSUMX Thornburg describes TSUMX newer (3/1/19- ; AUM $70 million only ) as multi-asset fund (stocks, bonds, alternatives) that is "unconstrained" or go-anywhere. No ranges for assets are specified in the prospectus but M* puts it in conservative-allocation/30-50% equity based on its current positioning. It may be a milder version of Thornburg's world-allocation/multi-asset TIBAX (NTF/no-load at Fido and Schwab) and its newer type of CEF TBLD (term-structure; not leveraged for now). TSUMX has transaction-fees at Fido and Schwab and both have lower min for IRAs (Fido $2,500; Schwab $1,000). I am surprised that Thornburg hasn't made it available as NTF/no-load at Fido and Schwab.
More drained accounts ! According to the account disclosure, cash gets FDIC coverage when it is swept into Happy State Bank, which happens on a daily basis:
you authorize and direct GoldStar Trust Company (“GoldStar”) to deposit any uninvested cash held in your IRA/ESA into an omnibus demand deposit account maintained by Happy State Bank, an affiliate of GoldStar (the “Deposit Account”). On a daily basis, any cash in your IRA/ESA, for which GoldStar has not received an investment or other direction as to its disposition, will be deposited into the Deposit Account. Such uninvested cash will remain in the Deposit Account until you direct GoldStar as to the investment or other disposition of such uninvested cash, and such direction is implemented. The Deposit Account is insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (“FDIC”)), up to the maximum amount per depositor, which is currently $250,000.
https://www.goldstartrust.com/PDFforms/Traditional_IRA_Simplifier.pdfOne wonders a bit about the choice of the term "affiliate". "Affiliated companies are companies that are related through ownership, either with one owning the other as a minority shareholder or with multiple companies being owned by a third party." Is Goldstar Trust a subsidiary of Happy State Bank as you write, or merely an affiliate? Merrill is an affiliate of Bank of America, it has FDIC-insured sweep accounts, but it doesn't say that cash is insured before it is swept into the bank.
https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/strategy/affiliated-companies/
TSUMX Thanks
@Davep.
Just adding what I learned if it is helpful to others.
It is a multi-asset, real return fund. Its current bond allocation is mostly investment grade with a big slug of US Treasuries.
https://www.thornburg.com/wp-content/uploads/home/pdfs/TH4795_C-fact-sheet-S.pdf.pdfIf one overlooks the idiosyncratic rise and fall of NAV in February 2021, it compares with and might even have a slight edge over FMSDX (depending on one's temperament).
If I was not averse at this point to adding an additional fund to my portfolio, I would seriously consider this.
More drained accounts ! @Derf -- I don't know what OT stands for
@msf -- I don't think the vulnerability window you called out for fintechs is applicable to Goldstar Trust. Goldstar Trust is a subsidiary of a bank that has FDIC protection. I see the below statement as cash being protected because the uninvested cash of a Goldstar Trust customer is sitting in the parent company(Happy State Bank) account. There isn't any uninsured fintech middleman between the consumer and Goldstar/Happy State Bank
FDIC NOTICE: IRA and/or Bond investments represented on this website are not FDIC-insured, are not guaranteed by GoldStar Trust Company, and involve risk including possible loss of principal. If held in a GoldStar IRA or GAMMA account, the un-invested cash portion is FDIC insured up to $2
50,000.
50% of this fund is invested in 1 stock. It's hard to think of this as a mutual fund when
50% is in one stock. The other issue I could image is the potential tax liability if the fund starts experiencing redemptions and the manager has to sell appreciated stock. Given that, if one is a Tesla fan, why not just buy Tesla directly? According to the fund's June 30, 2021 semiannual report--
https://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1217673/000119312521257076/d171358dncsrs.htm#cov171358_33--the fund had $
5.6 billion of unrealized capital gains in its $6.9 billion portfolio. One could easily imagine the fund distributing some hefty taxable distributions if some of those unrealized gains have to be realized because of shareholders selling the fund.