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Oakmark International Funds

edited April 15 in Fund Discussions
Michael Manelli, a comanager on OAKIX and OAKEX, will retire at year's end.
The following notes for OAKEX are from Morningstar Fund Investor (April 2025).

Our Take: Manelli is leaving unexpectedly in the prime of his career,
and his experience and investment acumen will surely be missed by the firm.
Manelli’s departure disrupts what was a clear succession plan for renowned investor David Herro.
Although Herro remains a comanager, he had delegated significant responsibilities here to Manelli and comanager Justin Hance, who will now take on an expanded role. Hance’s presence provides continuity:
He’s been with the firm since 2010, has 18 years of experience, and has been a comanager here since 2016.
Like Manelli, Hance has proved to be a savvy small/mid-cap investor under Herro’s mentorship and invests heavily in the offering.

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  • Yikes, as a former OAKIX shareholder I recoil at the description of Herro as a "renowned investor." I think we can all see who drove the out-performance of the fund many years ago by comparing OAKIX with ARTKX.
  • edited April 16
    OAKIX annual returns were often inconsistent.
    It wasn't uncommon for 1 yr., 3 yr., and 5 yr. fund category returns
    to alternate from top decile to bottom decile and vice versa.
    I haven't paid close attention to Oakmark funds for quite some time.
    I just checked OAKIX and noticed it hasn't been doing well in recent years.
    OAKIX returns in 2022 and 2024 were in the bottom 5% of the Foreign Value category according to M*.

    I have an article about Morningstar's International-Stock Fund Manager of the Year nominees in 2013.
    Here's a snippet which references David Herro and Oakmark International.

    "Herro is no stranger to internationally minded investors.
    He won the 2006 Morningstar International-Stock Fund Manager of the Year award
    and also received Morningstar's Manager of the Decade prize for international funds in 2010.
    Herro has been running this fund, on his own and with comanagers, since its 1992 inception,
    and its long-term record is certainly attention-getting.
    It hasn't slowed down, either: Oakmark International has ranked in the top 3% of its category
    in four of the past five calendar years.
    Not surprisingly, money has poured in, and the fund now has $28 billion in assets."



    Note: I've previously owned OAKIX (exited July 2014).
  • beebee
    edited April 16
    Second ARTKX - good international value fund.
    FMIJX - an international value fund choice if you are extremely patient and purchase at the right price. Over last 10 yr FMIJX provided index like (VXUS) return with less volatility.
    VWIGX - International growth fund that had a wild ride recently (during COVID timeframe).
  • edited April 16
    David Samra and Dan O’Keefe who manage ARTKX and ARTGX, respectively. They were co-managers on OAKIX before going to Artisan Partners. While starting their fund, ARTKX (later splitter to form ARTGX), they have done far better than David Herro’s fund, in terms of risk adjust return. Along the way, they have refined the value investment process considerably and avoided many of the value-trap stocks as many deep value managers do. From time to time, they move in and out into emerging stocks at the right time. Both are truly great managers.

    Perhaps someone can find past interviews with Samar and O’Keefe. At present, ARTKX is closed to new investors while ARTGX is still open.
  • edited April 16
    David Samra has done a great job with ARTKX - its performance has been excellent.
    VWIGX is also a very good, but volatile, fund.
    Although I admire many of parent firm's Fiduciary Management Inc. practices, I'm not sold on FMIJX.
    This foreign fund is currency hedged (most are not) and the rising dollar provided tailwinds until recently.
    It may be helpful to check FMIFX which does not hedge currency.

    https://www.morningstar.com/funds/xnas/fmifx/performance
  • edited April 22
    "At present, ARTKX is closed to new investors while ARTGX is still open."

    David Samra is the Managing Director for ARDBX but he doesn't make final investment decisions for the fund.
    The fund's investment process resembles that of ARTKX.
    Both ARDBX comanagers previously worked with Mr. Samra on ARTKX and ARTGX.
    Mr. Zhou was an analyst for Artisan International Value and Global Value from 2005 to 2012.
    Mr. Vasagiri was an analyst for Artisan International Value and Global Value from 2007 to 2010.
  • BIEAX/BIIEX, Brandes International, a LCV fund despite Lipper calling it a multi-cap, deserves comparison with ARTKX. It stacks up very favorably in the respects that matter to me (performance, ER, seasoned managers, boutique firm). Brandes has 22 different iterations (classes) of their funds and 11 of them are 5-stars, the other 11 are 3 and 4. Their relatively new ETFs have not been around for long, but I own BINV, a clone of BIEAX which has a long record.

    It’s a pleasure to find a thread in which members talk about funds.
  • I've had my eye on Brandes funds for a long time. Though I've not been able to fit them into my portfolio without a significant reshuffling of funds (i.e. not just a simple one for one swap).

    A distinguishing characteristic of Brandes is funds is that, relatively speaking, they are heavily invested in Latin America, notably Mexico and Brazil. (Data source is M*.) I like int'l funds that feel free to wade into emerging markets, but I'm not quite sure what to make of this unusual tilt.
  • @msf, FWIW...

    Our fave dedicated Foreign fund was GSIHX but we jettisoned it at our 2024 YE Review and replaced it with Brandes' BISAX. Wanted to shift our exposure there to Value from Growth. So far so good.

    Looking to add another dedicated Foreign fund sometime soon.
    Early scoping candidates include:
    GSIHX, HILAX, ARTIX, SCHY and GQJPX.
  • Brandes on Top of MFO Fund Families Scorecard Thru March 2025

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  • Long-term investor with Oakmark here (OAKIX, OAKWX, OAKEX, and sometimes OAKBX). I am still with Oakmark, though I don't know why. They really seemed to have lost a lot of their mojo over the past 5+ years. I saw it first with OAKBX; OAKEX has long been a laggard in the space. I think at this point I stay with Oakmark largely for diversification (manager concentration risk) and because they have a wide range of funds I can readily move between.

    On manager concentraiton risk -- I don't like having too much money with a single manager, and I don't want to have funds with a ton of different manager; currently I have 15% from an old Roth I started in grad school with Oakmark. I am split across four major fund families currently.
  • We have owned OAKMX off-and-on over the years and own it currently. Still a 5* fund that tracks well vs S&P despite being LCV. Was having a very good year until the debacle. Always thought it was/is their best offering.
  • I owned it for about 8 years in a advised account until bailing in 2021. It was bad for those 8 years. went to a factor based international fund (to match my 401k) and never looked back.
  • edited April 21
    Again, OAKMX is a 5*, LCV fund that tracks well vs the S&P, beating it by 2% over the past 3 years, by 5+% over 5 years, trailing it by a measly 0.5% over 10 years, and beating it by 2% over its LFE.

    I don't diss funds that do that, especially LCV funds! I more tend to own them.

    EDIT: Corrected based on @Shostavovich post
  • @stillers -- OAKMX is FCLV? I thought it was all domestic.
  • edited April 22

    @stillers -- OAKMX is FCLV? I thought it was all domestic.

    Thanks man, great catch. Yeah, only 3% Foreign.

    I've been scoping Foreign funds, especially FLCV for about a week (see above list) and had a brain fart there on my 2nd OAKMX post. My bad. I EDITED the post.

    The point I was trying to make still applies: a LCV fund, Domestic or Foreign, beating or tracking close to the S&P, is a fund I will and do own.
  • stillers said:

    Again, OAKMX is a 5*, LCV fund that tracks well vs the S&P, beating it by 2% over the past 3 years, by 5+% over 5 years, trailing it by a measly 0.5% over 10 years, and beating it by 2% over its LFE.

    I don't diss funds that do that, especially LCV funds! I more tend to own them.

    EDIT: Corrected based on @Shostavovich post

    No idea what this has to do with their international products

  • edited April 23
    A quick look back at the sequence of posts, and what was stated in each, should tell you.
  • edited April 22
    Back to the OP discussion...

    We have scoped several Foreign and Global LC funds recently and will be starting a new position in one of them today as a companion fund to currently owned BISAX (FS/MV).

    The scoping list, in no particular order includes:
    BAHAX - Europe Stock
    CIVVX - FLV
    GSIHX - FLG
    HILAX - FLV
    ARTIX - FLG
    GQJPX - FLV
    ARTGX - Global LV
    BIEAX - FLV

    Leaning at the moment to HILAX or BIEAX.

    EDIT: AS noted on BSW thread, BOT a starter position today in HILAX. Close call between it, BIEAX and a coupla others. Own BISAX - ultimately did not want to have all dedicated Foreign Stock allocation with one house, albeit arguably the Best in Class.
  • @Charles: thanks for that nicely done chart. If I had been online on the 20th, I would have said the colors were Easter-like. My own looking into the Brandes family of funds was seat-of-the-pants, not statistical, so I'm pleased to see how they come out stacked up with the competition. I can't find the tape of an old Miller Lite commercial, the punchline of which was, "These guys are good!"
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