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Bill Gross’s Bond Fund At Janus Lost 2.9% Monday

FYI: Bill Gross’s bond mutual fund at Janus Capital Group Inc. suffered a 2.87% decline in its net asset value Monday, according to fund-research firm Morningstar Inc.
The drop is unusually large for a bond fund, according to people familiar with the industry.
Regards,
Ted
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bill-grosss-bond-fund-at-janus-lost-29-monday-2015-08-25-81033757/print

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  • Some other bond funds and how they fared yesterday

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  • Note: column on the right is YTD performance; on left, yesterday's performance
  • edited August 2015
    The M* blurb says little. Certainly yiou can't judge a manager on such short term results.

    Without knowing more, the losses probably relate to being concentrated in a relatively small number of holdings. Stuff happens when you concentrate.

    I'd also guess his foreign holdings must be largely unhedged, exacerbating any currency losses.

    My DODLX (global bond) took a hit, but less than 1% on Monday. The junk funds I watch didn't do that badly either. For whatever reason, bonds didn't seem to benefit much from the equity rout.
  • Well, there you go: I just checked his portfolio at Morningstar. It looks like his 3% short on "09/16/15 R 60 Markit Cdx.Na.Ig S24 5y Ba" probably reverse-arb'd his 3% long "09/16/15 P 100 Markit Cdx.Na.Ig S24 5y Ba" while the 3% long position reported for "E-mini S&P 500 Index Future Mar15" goofed his 10% e-mini short on S&P September futures.

    There is, by the way, an entire portfolio that looks just like that.

    And he's initiated March 2015 futures positions? Wouldn't that have to be a March 2015 pasts position?

    David
  • "And he's initiated March 2015 futures positions? Wouldn't that have to be a March 2015 pasts position?"

    LOL
  • Just posted best and worst unconstrained funds before I read this. Bill is currently approx 50% emerging bonds (primarily mexico and brazil). Also remember that this should not be considered a bond fund. It's really a derivative laden long/short fund that happens to use bonds as it's primary tool.
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