Fundamentals old Make More/Lose Less portfolio YTD Hi Accipiter,
Thanks for ringing my bell. I recalled and found the FA archives link I had in the pc favorites list.
>>>>>matt, is this the portfolio mix you have on paper ???Posted by: Fundmentals
Date: November/December 2009
Subject line: Model portfolio design
Body of post:
I am sure many of you have come across the situation of a friend or a family member clueless about investing ask you to help them with a stash of money. The real-life requirements are usually "simple":
1. "Want your help to make some money. I can lose money all by myself"
2. "I can put it in the market for 5 years. Can leave it there longer if it is making money but not if it is losing money"
3. "Don't ask me to do anything more than once a year"
The following portfolio is designed specifically for people that are not
(a)expecting to beat the market
(b)don't want the portfolio to go down much (likely to panic and sell at the bottom if they went down 10% or more)
(c) would like some decent gains - more than what they can get with money market funds, CDs or even just bond funds without which they will not take the risk of investing at all and
(d) don't want to fiddle with it more than once a year.
The Portfolio
Domestic Equity:
5% Forester Value (FVALX) - Large Value
5% Amana Trust Growth (AMAGX) - Large Growth
5% Queens Road Small Cap Value (QRSVX) - Small Value
International/Global equity:
10% Forester Discovery (INTLX) - World Allocation
10% Matthews Asia Dividend (MAPIX) - Diversified Asia/Pacific
Alternate investments:
10% Robeco Long/Short Eq Inv (BPLEX) - Long/short equity
10% Arbitrage Fund (ARBFX) - Merger/arbitrage
15% Hussman Total Return (HSTRX) - Conservative allocation
Bonds
7.5% Managers Intermediate Govt (MGIDX) - Mortgage securities/Govt
7.5% PIMCO Total Return D (PTTDX) - Intermediate Investment Grade Bond
7.5% Weitz Short-Interm Income (WEFIX) - Short-Intermediate Term Investment Grade Bond
7.5% PIMCO GNMA D (PGNDX) - GNMA
Backtested performance
If portfolio invested on 1/1/2008, results as of 11/13/2009:
Total return: +15.05%;
2008 Performance: -4.79%
2009 YTD: 20.84%
Portfolio X-Ray:
Stocks 52.3%; Bonds 38.1%; Cash 9.6%
Stocks US 56.00%; International 44.00%
US equities
Large cap 27.4%; Mid cap 22.8%; Small Cap 49.8%
US equities
Value 36.9%; Blend 53.0%; Growth 10.1%
International equities
Europe 24.1%; Pacific 38.5%; Canada 18.9%; Emerging Markets 18.5%
Bonds
Taxable 78.70%; Uncategorized 21.30%
Credit quality High 78.7%; Uncategorized 21.30%
Duration Medium 20.2% Low 58.5% Uncategorized 21.3%
Costs: Portfolio average 1.72%
Portfolio construction notes:
The portfolio is constructed to solve a basic flaw in traditional portfolio construction. Diversification using high volatility equity funds (even index funds with market volatility) results in deep losses during bear markets as most such equities become correlated and go down together.
Just depending on bond allocation to reduce losses requires primarily allocation to Treasuries as it is the only type of asset that can be depended on to show negative correlation with equities in bear markets. But unlike in the past, Treasuries starting with the current situation of low interest rates cannot be expected to provide much gains going forward so the portfolio may turn out to be too conservative or too aggressive based on what happens in the market regardless of how much is allocated to Treasuries.
As a solution, portfolio picks only funds designed with a strategy to reduce/minimize losses during long bear markets and has some capital protection goals in place. The overall volatility is reduced by depending on each fund to reduce its own volatility rather than depend on lack of correlation to reduce the volatility.
Note that this is not the same thing as picking funds with the highest returns in either bear or bull markets or both. Nor are the returns attributable to some fantastic market timing in picking which stocks to buy and when to sell.
In fact, most of these funds will likely not consistently appear in the top 10% of their class except occasionally. But all of them will have shown the ability to limit losses by reacting to long-drawn down market conditions and make decent gains in long-drawn up market conditions.
In other words, the only market timing they will show will be in recognizing long bear markets as in recognizing the difference between 2008 and 2009, not what happens month to month. None of them try to time tops and bottoms.
Methodology
Portfolio Requirements:
1. Capital protection and lack of volatility extremely important. No long periods of losses. No "wait for 10-20 years or more" excuse for losses.
2. Asymmetric behavior - as much of the upside as possible, as little of the downside as possible
3. Simple portfolio with high quality no-load funds widely available in the main brokerages
4. Only annual tune-ups
5. Total return more important than income
6. No assumption of bull/bear markets for the portfolio as a whole, no forecasted assumptions of economy or any other indicators, doom/gloom predictions, etc.
Concrete requirements:
1. Not more than 12 funds.
2. No single fund with less than 5% allocation or more than 15% allocation
3. Portfolio must be diversified but not necessary to cover all asset/fund classes. Only asset classes that have shown consistent returns without long loss periods and small drawdowns. Riskier assets only within risk-managed funds.
4. No assumptions of correlation or lack of correlation between asset classes going forward but no gross overlaps between funds. Some overlap is fine.
Screening criterion for funds:
1. No-load, ER less than or equal to category average, been in existence for at least 5 years.
2. No losses in 3, 5 or 10 yr (if available) rolling periods (amazing how many asset classes or funds drop out here)
3. Manager has been around for at least the category average
4. Minimum initial purchase not more than $3000 (i.e., minimum not more than $60k portfolio)
5. Best 3 month performance must be better than worst 3 month performance over its lifetime (amazing how many funds you lose with this criterion)
6. Best volatility-adjusted performance (3-yr and 5-yr) in class, not necessarily the best returns.
7. Volatility of each fund on its own must not exceed 10% of total stock market index, total bond index or balanced index as appropriate.
8. Lowest volatility to break a tie all else remaining the same.
9. No bias towards active or passive funds as long as the above criterion are satisfied
10. Allocation percentages based entirely on relative volatility-adjusted returns (3-yr and 5-yr), no ad hoc allocation decisions. Individual fund notes:
end of Part 1
Proposal for a horizontal design in the mutual fund popup I am proposing the following 2 column format in the mutual fund popup. This is for
WEFIXEach column is 220px wide. So, this popup should fit in a popup 480px wide. I would say 360px height would be sufficient. In the following example, the light yellow area is 480x360 size.
I am willing to make the necessary adjustment to the code that generates the html markup so contents of popup would look like this. I can also adjust the fonts used to render to look like the rest of the site (which is more pleasing to the eye)
Note also that, I've pushed header text down a bit so that the close X icon on upper right does not overlap any text.
The Weitz Funds, Short-Intermediate Income Fund Insti Class(wefix)Look up this fund on:
General links:
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For those with high cash levels, when will you start to buy? I always have a bottom line number and when it gets approached I have to bail even though I own mostly conservative, balanced and flexible portfolio funds. The day of the first 5% rebound following the first 5% drop I sold about 50% of my fund investments. I did not sell any shares of PRPFX, RNDLX, DBLTX, VWINX, GLRBX, WEFIX. Totally agree with Louise Yamada "would rather be out of the market wishing I was in that in the market wishing I was out" (thanks Catch).
Holding a lot of cash in Vanguard MM but have moved some into RPHYX which I'm watching carefully and increased positions in RNDLX, DBLTX and added HSTRX for now.
Riverpark short term high yield fund (RPHYX) looks like a great place to park money. To clarify, the fund buys short term "special situation" bonds. I recently spoke with the fund, in an attempt to get them onto our platform at LPL. These bonds include as David highlighted, high yield bonds that have been called, high yield bonds of companies which have been acquired by higher quality owners, or where management has placed a significant portion of the cash due to bondholders in escrow or walled off in some other fashion. The fund does what i call 'working in the corners of the market', issues that are less interesting to high yield managers but cannot be purchased by investment grade managers.
To BR Bond: They do not have a partnership that mirrored this strategy. The biggest issue, as with many funds that invest in shallow markets, the capacity for the fund cannot be huge (although not a problem yet at $30mm or so). Just look at Driehaus Active Income . . . invest in limited arbitrage opportunities in the international fixed income markets, i believe it closed with just over $1.5 billion.
To 00BY: WEFIX is a great fund, i use it extensively on conservative accounts, but the riverpark fund hasn't been around long enough to say it provides worse downside protection. It only opened in October of 2010, and has been in the words of dennis gartman "moving from the lower left to the upper right".
As to elmer's comment, this is not a floating rate fund. Although it is high yield, there are mitigating factors other than the credit quality of the other business (special situations). The hedge fund industry was stuck forced selling mostly thinly traded sovereign credits as opposed to the corporate issues that riverpark invests in. Also, please note that FFRHX did perform poorly, but the numbers you presented don't take into account the few percent that were distributed as dividend income on a monthly basis.
As soon as this is available thru LPL, it will be inserted as a instant addition to our income models (and some use as a cash alternative).
Riverpark short term high yield fund (RPHYX) looks like a great place to park money. WEFIX is more conservative --- lower risk and lower return (in up markets), but better downside protection.
Riverpark short term high yield fund (RPHYX) looks like a great place to park money. How would you compare all the above named funds with the Weitz Short Term Bond fund WEFIX with regard to risk and return ? I am looking for a fund with a higher return than a M M to park money for the end of the year for an IRA required annual distribution.
Hoping for Explanation re Intermediate Bond Fund Investments Thanks for your comments, fundalarm, it's so great that you are now able (and willing) to participate so we can hear your opinions!
If I may ask, what styles/sectors and/or specific mutual funds do you feel will be the most protective considering these economic conditions during next 1-3 years to help offset market downslides? I am looking to add a little more to a portion of our investments where my minimal goal with this portion is 4% (i.e., better than zilch returns on cash/cd's right now but I don't expect more). I have, and like, WEFIX (5%) and am thinking about adding 3% more.
Bond Fund Investing at 52 I have about 1/3 of my assets in cash. 1/6 is invested in a mix of moderate and conservative allocation funds. The rest, in individual stocks. I'd like to invest the cash portion in bonds. I'm not interested in anything racy. I'd like to start earning a little more money than I am presently earning by having my cash sit in the bank.
I've thought of the following plan:
TGCFX TCW core fixed income: 33%
WEFIX Weitz Short-Intermediate income:33%
BGNMX American Century GNMA:33%
Is this too narrow a portfolio?
What Happened to Diversification? (CathyG) Thanks for your input, Ooby. It will be interesting to see how these do in upcoming economy. But I try to stay away from load funds and I use WEFIX (Weitz Short-Intermediate) as my lowest volatility fund that I've never worried about. Also don't count on it for big returns, but it has 5.65% 3 year annualized and gained 2.29% in 2008 - also has lowish tax cost ratio. I would hope that this will still perform ok even in interest rate/inflation increases... but I'll find out soon enough.
What Happened to Diversification? (CathyG) Thank you, John. I really miss Fundmental and am especially saddened as I think the only reason he would not at least give a "goodbye-off to do other things" comment would be because he became very ill.
I put all of Fundmentals portfolios in M*. Hadn't checked them lately, but just rechecked. For those interested,
His "safe" one shows 2.34%-YTD, 8.44%-12 mo, 7.94%-3 yr
His "Make More, Lose Less" one shows 2.48%-YTD, 12.53%-12 mo, 8.11%-3 yr, as opposed to VTHRH with 5.40%-YTD, 16.51%-12 mo, 1.66%-3 yr.
You have a much higher risk tolerance than I do - a 58% loss would definitely keep me up at nights. I watched one of my Mom's trust portfolios managed by USB (with 90% U.S. stocks) lose similar huge sums. It took them 3 years to get back into the black, with only now a 2.58%-3yr gain, with a 5.47%-10 yr return. My "safest" fund WEFIX shows 2.68%-3 yr and 4.83%-10 years without any sleepless nights. On the other hand, the USB portfolio is up 8.31%-YTD and 22.5%-12 mo, so that (as well as yours I'm sure) will do a lot better than mine in good markets.
I think it all boils down to "how much risk do you HAVE to take" - if you think you will need to withdraw a significant amount of income from your investments after a certain number of years, then you would have to take the extra risk. So I am very fortunate not to be in that position.