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  • Templeton Frontier Markets Fund to close
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/916488/000091648813000020/p-20513frontiermarketssticke.htm
    497 1 p-20513frontiermarketssticke.htm
    096 P-2 05/13
    SUPPLEMENT DATED MAY 23, 2013
    TO THE PROSPECTUS DATED AUGUST 1, 2012
    OF
    TEMPLETON FRONTIER MARKETS FUND
    (Templeton Global Investment Trust)
    The prospectus is amended as follows:
    The following paragraphs are added to the “Fund Summary” and “Fund Details” sections:
    Effective at the close of market on June 28, 2013, the Fund is closed to all new investors with the exception of: (1) clients of discretionary investment allocation programs where such programs had investments in the Fund prior to the close of business on June 28, 2013, (2) participants in the Franklin Templeton 401(k) Retirement Plan, (3) funds within Franklin Templeton Fund Allocator Series for which the Fund is an approved underlying fund, and (4) participants in any 401(k) plan that is already a shareholder of the Fund. If you are an existing investor in the Fund on that date, you can continue to invest through exchanges and additional purchases. Re-registration of accounts held by existing investors, if required for legal transfer or administration reasons, will be allowed.
    The Fund reserves the right to modify this policy at any time.
  • Investment Advice
    You owe it to yourself, Justin, to learn about this stuff, at least enough so that you're not a "babe in the woods." Look at Benjamin Graham's "The Intelligent Investor." Easy to digest. He was W. Buffet's mentor. Taught at Columbia Univ.
    Along with bee, I want to know what funds are available to you in your 401k. You won't even be able to respond intelligently until you can figure out whether the 401k is "wrapped" in an annuity--- like my brother's.... Are the available funds all "no-load?" You should NEVER have to pay for the "privilege" of buying shares in a fund--- particularly in a RETIREMENT vehicle.... And yet, until I stepped-in, my colleague was paying a 5.75% "load" that way every month. ......Or is your 401k entirely self-directed? That would indeed be unusual. While I was still working, my 403b was entirely self-directed. But that doesn't mean you can go anywhere and invest in anything. A great many fund-houses refuse to deal with 403b....I suppose it's not quite the same raw deal with regard to 401k plans. Let us know what is available to you. What are your fund options? It's helpful if you can give us the 5-letter ticker-symbol.
    -Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
    -Don't think that just because you put money in different baskets, then you are diversified.
    -You'll have to formulate a plan. Once you're happy with your fund selections, don't switch in and out. Make changes seldom. I could suggest funds, but I'd be offering you a "pig in a poke" until you can give us some more information. It will be self-defeating to think you can select X number of funds and then just forget about it. On the other hand, choose well, and you'll have no need to worry about your money too much from day to day.
    Generally speaking: you want some USA equities. Split it between large and small companies...... You'll want some bonds, but not too very much, particularly right now. Then, international.
    Help us to help you get specific. All of us in here--- we live for this stuff! Others FEAR money. We love to discuss the ins and outs of it all.
  • New company retirement funds...please suggest
    Hi bnath001,
    Does her present IRA reside within her previous employers 401k plan? If so, transfering the $200k to a self direct IRA would be my first suggestion. With her present employers plan, Vanguard is a great way to avoid high fees though their maybe some indirect fees (third party administration and the like). The Target fund seems the most diversified. I like the Vanguard REIT fund and have no problem with Windsor II but both would be complimentary to a well diverisified single choice like VFORX. Both sectors (REIT and LCV) are represented in VFORX to a certain degree anyway. Are there other retirment date choices.
    As jerry mentioned you may be able to increase/decrease your percentages of the three underlying investment in VFORX (VTI,VT,BND) by choosing a different retirement dated fund like 2030 (VTHRX) or 2050 (VTTRX).
  • New company retirement funds...please suggest
    Hello folks,
    My wife recently joined a company. They have bunch of funds. But, I wanted to listen to the opinon of this forum on the following funds that are available. Her age is 40 years old. about 200K in IRA. But we are not rolling over that money into the new company's 401k account.
    Vanguard REIT Index Fund Signal Shares - VGRSX
    Vanguard Windsor II Fund Investor Shares - VWNFX
    Vanguard Target Retirement 2040 Fund -VFORX
    Thanks
    basam
  • Investment advice
    Thanx to all of you for your time and help as I am fast forging a path toward retirement. That's the goal. Oracl, well said. Some things need to go, and I will look at your 3 choices for sure. The journey is long, and I need to do better.
    Jerry, on the company side of my 401k, I have my three (3) largest holdings: Vanguard's VINIX (S&P 500), VIEIX (Mid CAP), VIDMX (Developed Markets Index). As far as internationals, FGILX, MACSX, MAPIX, PTHDX and SGIDX round out the mix.
    Sorry, Mike, it's just too much to put down at first----my bad. As far bonds, I have none right now having sold them on advice from CNBC and others. Also have small and mid: APPLX, CHTTX, FSCRX, FSSPX, RYDVX, STDIX, UMBMX, WASIX.
    So, Max, this is it for my current portfolio. I am going to check out your funds. Also, thank you to all again. I know I need bonds. I expect to hear a lot of guff for this, and I understand. Have started this brokerage journey in 2009, so it's relatively new to me. That's why I need help. Thanx.
  • That 52% figure
    The Gallup article MJG linked to appears to provide the exact poll question asked. What the answer means depends on how each person polled responded. The question remains ambiguous, though I think we can surmise how most people would interpret (and respond to) the question.
    The question asks about being currently invested in "the stock market ... either in an individual stock, a stock mutual fund, or in a self-directed 401(k) or IRA".
    Here are some ambiguities that I think the vast majority of people would gloss over:
    - 403(b), 457, etc. (similar to 401(k)s, but omitted from the question - this is likely the biggest source of ambiguity in the responses, and I suspect most people owning only 403(b)s would answer "yes".
    The other ambiguities are more for amusement - most people who own any of the below likely also own "regular" stock or stock funds:
    - private placements - still stock, but are they part of "the stock market"?
    - REITs (and REIT funds) - ownership of a company, not a corporation, and fundamentally ownership of real estate, not a business. If this were all I owned, I don't know how I'd answer the question.
    - GLD and the like - ownership of a fund that does not own stock (just raw metal), though most gold mutual funds own mining companies.
    On the flip side, I suspect there are many people who own stock who should answer "no":
    - co-ops - technically stock ownership, but intent (not wording) of question clearly excludes home ownership regardless of form
    The bottom line is that the number means what the people answering the question think is means, and we'll never know exactly what this is.
    Though it is clear enough to suggest that we've still got lots and lots of people relying on fixed income investments (if any) and social security for retirement. That is scary.
    Here is a page of US Census links (2010 data) for information about household worth (regardless its form). And one particular link worth highlighting (as it in turn highlights key numbers):
    Wealth and Asset Ownership - US Census page with links to spreadsheets and blogs
    Changes in Household Net worth from 2005 to 2010
    The median household net worth, excluding home, was $15,000. Since 52% of the Gallop responders said "yes", we know that at least some people with net worth under $15K are invested in the stock market, for the little that is worth.
    I know what you're thinking - that this number is misleadingly low, because it includes young people just starting out. True. The median net worth excluding home of householders 65+ was $29K, vs. $4K for those 35-. No matter how you look at it, it is not a pretty picture. And no money available to invest in the market.
  • Tilson Focus Fund liquidates
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1295908/000139834413002574/fp0007323_497.htm
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    TILSON FOCUS FUND
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    SUPPLEMENT, DATED MAY 20, 2013 (THE “SUPPLEMENT”),
    TO THE PROSPECTUS OF THE TILSON FOCUS FUND AND THE TILSON DIVIDEND FUND (“PROSPECTUS”) AND STATEMENT OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION (“SAI”),
    DATED FEBRUARY 28, 2013
    THIS SUPPLEMENT PROVIDES NEW AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BEYOND THAT CONTAINED IN THE PROSPECTUS AND THE SAI, AS SUPPLEMENTED, AND SHOULD BE READ IN CONJUNCTION THEREWITH.
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    Effective immediately, the Tilson Focus Fund (the “Fund”), a series of the Tilson Investment Trust (the “Trust”), has terminated the public offering of its shares and will discontinue its operations effective June 21, 2013 (the “Closing Date”). Shares of the Fund are no longer available for purchase.
    The Board of Trustees of the Trust, in consultation with the Fund’s investment advisor, T2 Partners Management LP (the “Advisor”), determined at a meeting of the Board of Trustees of the Trust, held on May 20, 2013 (“Board Meeting”), to discontinue the Fund’s operations based on, among other factors, the Advisor’s belief that it would be in the best interests of the Fund and its shareholders to discontinue the Fund’s operations. Through the date of the Fund’s liquidation, currently scheduled to take place on or about the Closing Date, the Advisor will continue to waive fees and reimburse expenses of the Fund, as necessary, in order to maintain the Fund’s fees and expenses at their current level, as specified in the Prospectus.
    At the Board Meeting, the Board of Trustees directed that: (i) all of the Fund’s portfolio securities be liquidated in an orderly manner not later than the Closing Date; and (ii) all outstanding shareholder accounts on the Closing Date be closed and the proceeds of each account be sent to the shareholder’s address of record or to such other address as directed by the shareholder, including special instructions that may be needed for the Individual Retirement Accounts (“IRAs”) and qualified pension and profit sharing fund accounts. In addition, the Board of Trustees decided to eliminate the Fund’s redemption fee for all shareholder redemptions on or after May 20, 2013.
    As a result of the liquidation of the Fund’s portfolio securities described above, the Fund’s normal exposure to equity investments will be reduced and eventually eliminated. Accordingly, going forward the Fund should not be expected to achieve its investment objective.
    Shareholders may continue to freely redeem their shares on each business day during the Fund’s liquidation process.
    This transaction will be considered for tax purposes a sale of Fund shares by shareholders, and shareholders should consult with their own tax advisors to ensure its proper treatment on their income tax returns. In addition, shareholders invested through an IRA or other tax-deferred account should consult the rules regarding the reinvestment of these assets. In order to avoid a potential tax issue, shareholders that have invested through an IRA or other tax-deferred account may choose to authorize, prior to the Closing Date, a direct transfer of their retirement account assets to another tax-deferred retirement account. Typically, shareholders have 60 days from the date of the liquidation to invest the proceeds in another IRA or qualified retirement account; otherwise the liquidation proceeds may be required to be included in the shareholder’s taxable income for the current tax year.
    If you have any questions regarding the Fund, please call 1-888-484-5766.
    Investors Should Retain this Supplement for Future Reference.
  • That 52% figure
    Hi Jerry,
    You correctly stated that I quoted the 52 % stock ownership statistic from a presentation by Money Show organizer Kim Githier. She did not reference its source.
    You develop a serious concern that embeds several auxiliary issues. Perhaps the first step in addressing your issues is to verify the 52 % level and its source.
    At least one source of that number is a recent Gallup poll. Here is a Link that I located from the Daily Finance site:
    http://www.dailyfinance.com/on/stock-ownership-record-low-gallup/
    Gallup’s summary conclusion was: “Just over half of Americans, 52%, now say they personally, or jointly with a spouse, own stock outright or as part of a mutual fund or self-directed retirement account.”
    Here is the original survey data set directly from Gallup:
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/162353/stock-ownership-stays-record-low.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All Gallup Headlines - Americas - Economy - USA
    The trend as a function of time is particularly informative. Gallup also attempts a correlation and interpretation of the data set.
    This might be a good place to start your own interpretation. The comments suggest that the data incorporates more than just individual stock ownership.
    Best Wishes.
  • That 52% figure
    In MJGs post on Las Vegas (excellent by the way)he mentions that according to the organizers only 52% of Americans own individual stocks. I had heard that number on CNBC but thought it referred to equities including stick and balanced funds. If it just refers to individual stocks the number is less alarming. We have all heard that in the last few years only the rich are getting richer because they are the ones that own stocks. i have and do believe it but I do think that if the 52% is just holders of individual stocks the situation may not be so bad as I actually thought since I suspect that a great majority of 401ks and IRAs contain some stock and/or balanced funds (including target retirement)j
  • EVBIX (Kathleen Gaffney) is up 4.6% last month
    Reply to @MikeM: I am not as concerned if and when Dan Fuss retires. The other two co-managers have been working with Fuss and Gaffney for well over 10 years. My opinion is that Fuss's investment process would likely stay intact when Fuss moves to retirement. Hence the fund would do fine afterward.
    Right now I am not familiar with Ivascyn, but will do more research on how his approach differs from Bill Gross's PTTRX.
  • EVBIX (Kathleen Gaffney) is up 4.6% last month
    Reply to @Mark:
    The information provided was based on a test-trades I made in my retirement accounts at the brokerages I listed. Such test-trades usually represent reality, especially at Fidelity.
  • EVBIX (Kathleen Gaffney) is up 4.6% last month
    Reply to @Sven: I agree with you that there isn't a big reason to follow Gaffney. But I for one did decide to significantly reduce my LSBDX holding after Fuss announced his retirement (there is no "if". he said he's going) and when Gaffney left Loomis Sayles. I was invested in LSBDX because Fuss and Gaffney were the proven co-leaders. The remaining managers "may" do just fine, but... being a good analyst does not guarantee good lead management.
    There are plenty of good-proven bond fund managers and management teams out there. I decided to move most of my LSBDX money and invest with Ivascyn, PIMIX. I've also held MWTRX for quite a while. Great proven management investing in higher quality bonds. So I have no compelling need to hire Gaffney (as if I could or would invest $250k in one fund :).
  • Scout International Discovery Fund to liquidate
    http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1105128/000145079113000102/rule497e.htm
    Scout Funds
    Scout International Discovery Fund
    Supplement dated May 16, 2013 to the Prospectus dated October 31, 2012, as revised April 11, 2013
    Upon the recommendation of Scout Investments, Inc. (the “Advisor”), the Scout Funds Board of Trustees has adopted a Plan of Liquidation to cease operations of the Scout International Discovery Fund (the “Fund”) and liquidate the Fund. The Advisor has determined that it is no longer economically viable to continue operating the Fund in view of its size and future prospects for growth. The liquidation is expected to be completed on or about June 28, 2013.
    The Fund will be closed to new investors effective May 17, 2013. After May 17, 2013, if you sell all of the Fund’s shares in your account, you will not be able to buy additional shares of the Fund. Shareholders may sell Fund shares or exchange Fund shares for shares of other Scout Funds at any time prior to the liquidation date. Procedures for selling or exchanging your shares are contained in the “Selling Shares” and “Exchanging Shares” sections of the Fund’s Prospectus. Any shareholders that have not sold or exchanged their shares of the Fund prior to the liquidation date will have their shares automatically redeemed as of that date, with proceeds being sent to the address of record.
    All holdings in the Fund’s portfolio are being liquidated. Any capital gains will be distributed as soon as practicable to shareholders and reinvested in additional shares, unless you have requested payment in cash.
    The liquidation of the Fund will constitute a taxable event for purposes of federal income taxes, except to the extent the Fund’s shares are held in a tax-advantaged product, plan or account. You also may be subject to state, local or foreign taxes on any liquidation proceeds you receive. By the liquidation date, the Fund expects to declare and pay one or more dividends to its shareholders to the extent necessary to avoid entity level tax. You should consult your financial or tax advisor for further information about the impact any tax consequences may have to your own circumstances.
    IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR RETIREMENT PLAN INVESTORS. If you are a retirement plan investor, you should consult your tax advisor regarding the consequences of a redemption of Fund shares. If you hold shares in a tax-deferred account, please consult with your retirement account trustee or custodian to determine how you may be able to re-invest your liquidation proceeds on a tax-deferred basis. If you receive a distribution from an Individual Retirement Account (IRA) or a Simplified Employee Pension (SEP) IRA, you must roll the proceeds into another IRA within 60 days of the date of the distribution in order to avoid having to include the distribution in your taxable income for the year. If you receive a distribution from a 403(b)(7) Custodian Account (tax-sheltered account) or a Keogh Account, you must roll the distribution into a similar type of retirement plan within 60 days in order to avoid disqualification of your plan and the severe tax consequences that it can bring. If you are the trustee of a Qualified Retirement Plan, you may reinvest the money in any way permitted by the plan and trust agreement.
    You should keep this Supplement for future reference. Additional copies of the Prospectus may be obtained free of charge by calling (800) 996-2862.
  • 4% rule on withdrawals
    I'm glad to see annuities mentioned as a component of retirement income. And she correctly (IMHO) groups annuities and social security together. I'm not sure I see where the article says that one should consider an annuity part of one's fixed income allocation. (Could be; I can also make the case for considering it a cash allocation.)
    In any case, a couple of observations about the article:
    - She asserts that most annuities start paying out at age 80-85. That's misleading. Most annuities are written so that if you still have them at that age, you must annuitize. But the fact is that somewhere around 96%-98% of annuities are never annuitized. That means that the annuities are not paying out at all, at least not in the traditional sense of the article. There are guaranteed income riders that will allow you to withdraw money without annuitizing, and those are often designed for withdrawals in your 70s or even earlier.
    - I'm inferring from the terminology "deferred income annuity", she is talking about "fixed income" annuities, as opposed to variable annuities.
    - With interest rates so low, now may not be a great time to buy a deferred annuity. A possible strategy is to diversify by buying at different times (years). Or if one can afford the risk, keep the money invested a little longer until rates start their inevitable ascent, before buying.
  • Despite Risks, Retirement Savers Plow into Target Date Funds
    Reply to @hank: We'll have to agree to disagree. To me, moving towards fixed income as you get closer to retirement is certainly a 'sound' principle. But I guess my first point was 1) these funds are no more risky than a self guided portfolio of the same equity/FI distribution, and 2) they are perfect for the 'financially challenged', which the general population is (maybe not our MFO crowd as Joe pointed out). The caveat for these funds is that they probably should be chosen by there % equity distribution, not necessarily by their retirement date. If you are retiring in 2020 and are not comfortable holding 70% equities as the TRP 2020 fund does, pick something closer to your risk tolerance, say 2010 at a 60/40 mix. But then again, that would take some financial knowledge that most don't have.
    By the way, I also hold TRRIX. Take care.
  • Despite Risks, Retirement Savers Plow into Target Date Funds
    Hi Hank. Dumb article I think. The article says there is risk in retirement date funds??? There is risk in every investment. The article suggests a better option is to pick low cost index stock and bond funds and balance according to your risk tolerance. Hello!! Your average-Joe just doesn't want to deal with that and probably wouldn't know how to assess and correlate their risk tolerance to an appropriate portfolio.
    I'm a proponent of Target Date funds as an option for most investors. If people don't have an interest in investing and portfolio building, and most don't, I don't think there is a better option then these retirement options.
  • VGCHX (Vanguard Health) - still worthy of investment?
    This is one of my longest held positions. I don't even think I have a proper cost basis on it anymore (original investment was ~15 years ago in a 401k and it's moved to a rollover IRA since.)
    I have a few bucks in cash in my rollover account, and this has performed pretty well over the long term, but I believe there were some recent management changes due to retirement. So - would you place more money here?