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  • Time to shine for "alternative" funds
    Here's summary of latest ratings for VintageFreak's list (funds at least 1 year old):
    http://www.mutualfundobserver.com/fund-ratings/?symbol=+BPRRX+BGRSX+ARLSX+RLSFX+RSAFX+LSOFX+WBMAX+WBLSX+TFSMX+TFSSX+PMHDX+WMCNX+IRONX+NLSAX+NABAX+OTCRX+MASNX+RNBWX&submit=Submit
    If you sort on Risk, top performers rise to top...interesting...Litman Gregory Master Alt Strats In (MASFX), RiverPark Structural Alpha Institut (RSAIX), Ironclad Managed Risk (IRONX), and Robeco Boston Partners L/S Rsrch In (BPIRX).
  • Time to shine for "alternative" funds
    Let me clarify what I meant by "monitor". I'm trying to ask questions to myself and answer them to see if these are candidates worthy of purchase. I already own some of these, so it makes sense to go see what you thought about the fund doing for you and whether you screwed up .
    For example, I've been toying with RNBWX. So today I'm asking myself this question: How does a fund with 3 quarters of its assets in cash, strategy of using options for protection, still happen to drop 1.36% yesterday?
    Another example. LSOFX. Is this simply another fund like CGMFX, which except for trading more frequently, is simply making upside and downside bets, instead of actually managing risk in any meaningful way. In other words, is this simply another fund like which can screw up on the long positions AND short positions and actually end up performing worse than any long only or short only fund? With 1 third of assets in cash it still managed to lose 2% yesterday.
    Finally, are funds like TFSMX, WMCNX, WBMAX, etc. really the kind of funds you want to be invested in rather than PMHDX or ARLSX or RLSFX?
  • Time to shine for "alternative" funds
    I think we are getting to the point where L/S fund need to start earning their keep. I'm monitoring the following funds.
    BPRRX
    BGRSX
    ARLSX
    RLSFX
    RSAFX
    LSOFX
    WBMAX
    WBLSX
    TFSMX
    TFSSX
    PMHDX
    WMCNX
    IRONX
    NLSAX
    NABAX
    OTCRX
    MASNX
    RNBWX
    GDAMX
    PFSDX
  • What were your "UP" funds today on a largely "down" day?
    A brutal day today 7/31/2014:
    Markets:
    Dow -1.88%
    Nasdaq -2.09%
    S&P -1.98%
    Russell 2000 -2.31%
    EFA -1.67%
    EEM -1.75%
    GLD -1.15%
    GDX -2.12.%
    AGG -0.12%
    Alternative Funds:
    Whitebox Market Neutral Equity Investor WBLSX +0.09%
    Whitebox Tactical Opportunities Investor WBMAX +0.55%
    ASTON/River Road Long-Short N ARLSX -0.67%
    BlackRock Global Long/Short Equity Inv A BDMAX +0.17%
    PIMCO EqS Long/Short D PMHDX -1.53%
    MainStay Marketfield I MFLDX -0.91%
    Robeco Boston Partners L/S Equity Inv BPLEX +0.19%
    Robeco Boston Partners L/S Rsrch Inv BPRRX -0.87%
    RiverPark Structural Alpha Retail RSAFX -0.86%
    RiverPark Long/Short Opportunity Retail RLSFX -1.38%
    RiverPark/Gargoyle Hedged Value Retail RGHVX -1.59%
    AQR Multi-Strategy Alternative N ASANX -0.30%
    AQR Diversified Arbitrage N ADANX 0.00%
    AQR Risk Parity N AQRNX -1.44%
  • RiverPark Institutional now $100K minimum...
    Just noted: "RIVERPARK LOWERS MINIMUM INVESTMENT ON INSTITUTIONAL SHARES OF ITS MUTUAL FUND FAMILY TO $100,000 FROM $1 MILLION"
    http://www.riverparkfunds.com/downloads/News/RiverPark_Lowers_Institutional_Share_Class_Investment_Minimums.pdf
    For those who didn't want to pay the Schwab fee, it seems the RiverPark folks have made the Institutional shares somewhat easier to reach if you buy the shares directly from RiverPark.
    RPXIX RiverPark Large Growth Fund Class Institutional
    RPXFX RiverPark Large Growth Fund Class Retail
    RLSIX RiverPark Long/Short Opportunity Instl
    RLSFX RiverPark Long/Short Opportunity Retail
    RPHIX RiverPark Short Term High Yield Fund Class Institutional
    RPHYX RiverPark Short Term High Yield Fund Class Retail
    RSIIX RiverPark Strategic Income Fund Institutional Class
    RSIVX RiverPark Strategic Income Fund Retail Class
    RSAIX RiverPark Structural Alpha Fund Institutional Class
    RSAFX RiverPark Structural Alpha Fund Retail Class
    RGHVX RiverPark/Gargoyle Hedged Value Fund Retail Class
    RGHIX RiverPark/Gargoyle Hedged Value Instl
    RWGIX RiverPark/Wedgewood Fund Class Institutional
    RWGFX RiverPark/Wedgewood Fund Class Retail
  • What were your "UP" funds today on a largely "down" day?
    Another down day today 3/13/2014:
    Markets:
    Dow -1.41%
    Nasdaq -1.46%
    S&P -1.19%
    Russell 2000 -1.23%
    EFA -1.86%
    EEM -1.80%
    GLD +0.34%
    GDX +2.64%
    AGG +0.26%
    Alternative Funds:
    TFS Market Neutral TFSMX -0.34%
    TFS Hedged Futures TFSHX 0.00%
    Whitebox Market Neutral Equity Investor WBLSX -0.36%
    Whitebox Tactical Opportunities Investor WBMAX 0.00%
    ASTON/River Road Long-Short N ARLSX -0.78%
    BlackRock Global Long/Short Equity Inv A BDMAX +0.09%
    LS Opportunity LSOFX -0.85%
    PIMCO EqS Long/Short D PMHDX -0.65%
    MainStay Marketfield I MFLDX -0.92%
    Robeco Boston Partners L/S Equity Inv BPLEX +0.43%
    Robeco Boston Partners L/S Rsrch Inv BPRRX -0.42%
    RiverPark Structural Alpha Retail RSAFX -0.29%
    RiverPark Long/Short Opportunity Retail RLSFX -1.36%
    RiverPark/Gargoyle Hedged Value Retail RGHVX -0.74%
    AQR Multi-Strategy Alternative N ASANX +0.52%
    AQR Diversified Arbitrage N ADANX +0.09%
    AQR Risk Parity N AQRNX +0.09%
  • What were your "UP" funds today on a largely "down" day?
    Today: Mon. 2/3/2014
    Markets:
    Dow -2.08%
    S&P 500 -2.28%
    Nasdaq -2.61%
    Russell 2000 -3.21%
    10 yr. bond -3.26%
    Gold -0.28%
    EFA -2.04%
    EEM -2.83
    VIX +16.46%
    Alternative ETFs/Mutual Funds:
    Global X Guru Index ETF GURU -2.92%
    Barclays S&P 500 Dynamic VEQTOR ETN VQT +0.01%
    TFS Market Neutral TFSMX -0.40
    Whitebox Long Short Equity Investor WBLSX -0.09%
    Whitebox Tactical Opportunities Investor WBMAX +0.32%
    ASTON/River Road Long-Short N ARLSX -0.70%
    BlackRock Global Long/Short Equity Inv A BDMAX -0.25%
    LS Opportunity LSOFX -1.34%
    PIMCO EqS® Long/Short D PMHDX -1.27%
    MainStay Marketfield I MFLDX -1.47%
    Robeco Boston Partners L/S Equity Inv BPLEX +0.48%
    Robeco Boston Partners L/S Rsrch Inv BPRRX -1.00%
    RiverPark Long/Short Opportunity Retail RLSFX -1.29%
    RiverPark/Gargoyle Hedged Value Retail RGHVX -1.94%
    AQR Multi-Strategy Alternative N ASANX -0.73%
    AQR Diversified Arbitrage N ADANX 0.00%
    AQR Risk Parity N AQRNX -0.07 -0.66%
    BPLEX and both Whitebox funds did quite well on this very "down" day.
    Any other funds that performed well today?
  • "Defensive" funds?
    Hi, Bitzer!
    If by "defensive" you mean "weakly correlated to the stock market," you might benefit by thinking about how equity-oriented funds minimize their correlation.
    Some choose to short individual stocks, which allows them to maintain an effective (called "net") exposure that might be in the 40-60% range. Representative of such funds is ASTON/River Road Long-Short (ARLSX), LS Opportunity (LSOFX), RiverPark Long-Short Opportunities (RLSFX) and Wasatch Long-Short (FMLSX).
    Some choose to sell options which generate income and rise in value, generally, when volatility is climbing. Representative of such funds is RiverNorth Dynamic Buy-Write (RNBWX), RiverPark Gargolye Hedged Value (RGHVX) and Bridgeway Managed Volatility (BRBPX).
    Some choose to maintain high cash balances when the market does not represent a screaming buy. Representative funds include Bretton Fund (BRTNX), Cook and Bynum (COBYX), Pinnacle Value (PVFIX), all of the F P A funds (including Crescent and International Value), and Tilson Dividend (TILDX).
    Some, of course, have hybrid stock/bond portfolios. I'd be cautious there about anything holding a bond portfolio with a maturity of more than five years. You could do worse than a fund like Greenspring (GRSPX) or Osterweis Strategic Investment (OSTVX).
    Each approach has its special drawbacks and none are pure magic, but any of the strategies might work to help you find a long-term holding that you might choose to enlarge when your anxiety climbs.
    For what it's worth,
    David
  • MSCFX down 3.85% 4/15/2013
    Reply to @Investor:
    Looking at some other profiled funds:
    COBYX -0.73%
    SFGIX -1.63%
    MAPIX -1.46%
    MACSX -1.08%
    MAINX -0.18%
    APPLX -2.87%
    Long/Short or Hedged equity style investing funds:
    ARLSX -1.54%
    RLSFX -1.61%
    WBLSX +0.10%
    MFLDX -1.91%
    FMLSX -2.52%
    BPLSX -0.28%
    BPRRX -1.17%
  • Long/Short Funds -- General Thoughts?
    There's a nice essay from Wasatch on using long/short funds as a core portfolio holding.
    I did interviews with or profiles of a series of long/short managers last summer and fall. My general impression:
    1. this is a very old strategy, actually. This is pretty much where the hedge fund industry started, back in the days when these were "hedged" funds. Done well, it makes sense.
    2. in general, most long/short funds are sorrowful. Most are expensive, undisciplined and surrender too much upside , though they do provide some downside protection.
    3. the long/short category actually covers a very different strategies, so side-by-side comparisons are not as straightforward as you might imagine.
    Folks to look at would include Aston/RiverRoad Long Short (ARLSX), Bridgeway Managed Volatility (BRBPX) and RiverPark Long Short Opportunity (RLSFX). The gold standard in the field is the closed Robeco Boston Partners Long/Short Equity fund (BPLEX). They have a second long/short fund (Research) which is interesting but it's no BPLEX. Marketfield, in adopting a sales load and a marketing machine, probably has taken itself out of the running.
    Just random thoughts on a Friday afternoon,
    David
  • ASTON/River Road Long-Short Off To Good Start
    M* YTD performance against some contemporaries (ARLSX versus RLSFX, WBLFX, MFLDX, and AQRIX):
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  • December 2012 update
    Reply to @chip: The link goes to the recording of the RPHYX conference call (from September) instead of the RLSFX call.
  • June 2012 update is posted
    "This month we begin by renewing the 2009 profile of a distinguished fund, Wasatch Long/ Short (FMLSX) and bringing a really promising newcomer, Aston / River Road Long- Short (ARLSX) onto your radar.
    Our plans for the months ahead include profiles of Aston/MD Sass Enhanced Equity (AMBEX), RiverPark Long/Short Opportunity (RLSFX), RiverPark/Gargoyle Hedged Value (RGHVX), James Long-Short (JAZZX), and Paladin Long Short (PALFX). If we’ve missed someone that you think of a crazy-great, drop me a line. I’m open to new ideas."
    There have been few successes in the long-short field in part because of the inflexibility of the funds - these were largely presented as "hedge funds for the masses", but in many cases are not flexible enough to be really functional in this market. They're just not hedge funds and if the funds are not "fully functional" in a way that can pull of the strategy, they disappoint . See the Rydex Managed Futures fund, which was "ahead of its time" as the first Managed Futures fund, but after it worked in 2008 when everything went in one direction, it has seemed broken ever since because of the fact that the long-short fund only repositions once a month (and I believe is sector specific - if it's short ag, it's short ag across the board rather than specific commodities.) Managed futures as a strategy has not been outstanding in the mutual fund space over the last few years, but a number of large managed futures hedge funds that are vastly more flexible have done fine. However, something that updates its positions once a month in this market is going to be continually off unless you get one long, continuous move either way.
    Additionally, many long-short funds often seem to take the long-short mentality too literally - those funds that can dial up and down risk with much greater flexibility (Marketfield, the Robeco fund) are the few that have held up better than the rest. Those who seem to continually have to be short with a good deal of the portfolio have not. Those who have tried to discuss fundamentals in a time of the easiest monetary policy in history (Hussman) have not. Nakoma, well...
    As for the James fund, didn't they have a Market Neutral fund that imploded not that long ago? That fund was down 28% between 11/08 and when it folded in June of last year.
    Look at what Leuthold Hedged equity turned into (or not.), as well. As for Leuthold....
    "I’ve been wondering, lately, whether there are better choices than Leuthold Global (GLBLX) for part of my non-retirement portfolio."
    Yes, yes there is. The Leuthold funds continue to be disappointing and I think it became clear that the hundreds of indicators that Leuthold was using were no longer all that functional in a market like this as maybe they used to be.
    I mean, from an article on hedge funds and being in a market where one "has to change algorithms":
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/21/us-trading-blackbox-idUSBRE84K07320120521
    "NEW ALGORITHMS
    In the middle of a trading floor overlooking the Thames, a huge screen flashes with the deals - everything from interest rate futures to oil contracts - made by AHL's black-box computer.
    The firm has recently had a rough ride: its portfolio fell almost 17 percent in 2009 and lost 6.8 percent last year when the fund's assets shrank 11 percent to $21 billion, dragging the share price of its parent, Man Group.
    "We've learned our lessons," says boss Tim Wong. The fund is now keenly aware of the need to pay attention to what its rivals may be doing, he says.
    But AHL isn't out to match Winton's ancient data - its chief scientist Anthony Ledford argues that modern markets behave very differently than they did 50 or 100 years ago. ************* Winton sends researchers to libraries and archives across the world to find numbers held in books and on microfilms. It has found barley and sesame prices from ancient Babylon, and English wheat prices going back to 1209. It now employs more than 90 researchers, including extragalactic astrophysicists, computer scientists and climatologists. The company hired a meteorologist who had researched the "El Nino" phenomenon.************** The physics graduate - Winton wants to keep his name secret for fear a rival might poach him - works in London correlating weather data to crops such as corn, wheat and soybeans. That data can be used to forecast how prices might fluctuate with the weather.
    Instead, it is sharpening up its processes. AHL has cut back its short-term algorithms, and is developing codes to profit from different market patterns away from trend-following - for example, betting on the fact that markets tend to iron out short-term anomalies over time, or revert to the mean.
    With volatility so high now, it is also developing new algorithms that try to predict, and trade on, the changing volatility of different assets.
    Its approach gets support from some investors.
    "The old CTAs are relying too much on the past," said Monty Agarwal, an author and founding partner of Managed Futures Fund, which invests in both its own and external CTAs. "The new strategies that we see thriving are mean reversion, which is trend anticipation, and pattern recognition - artificial intelligence."
    The funds know they need something new to generate 'alpha', or outperform the market. AHL's Ledford isn't sure whether short-term codes will ever work again. "It's either taken an extremely long time for the alpha to come back from those frequencies or it's not coming back," he said. "And I still don't know the answer to that."
    ---
    Or, as Lord Rothschild (or "Lord Vader", perhaps) simply said a couple of days ago, "Unless one has a long horizon, investment success in
    public markets has become a game of timing rather
    than fundamentals."
    You have an investment market where people have to research grain prices from ancient Babylon in order to try and get that extra leg up over their computer-driven competition. No comment really necessary.
    Overall, another really terrific article this month, and keep up the wonderful work with MFO.
  • ICI Fund Inflows/Outflows This Week
    Reply to @kevindow: There's a general dislike towards equities by much of the retail population, it seems, which now includes rich people (according to a poll CNBC was discussing yesterday), who are buying diamonds and other things - hard assets (http://www.cnbc.com/id/47446781). "A recent survey from Harrison Group and American Express Publishing found that the wealthy have cut back their allocations to stocks dramatically since the economic crisis."
    Personally, my view:
    If you are near retirement age, it's understandable not wanting to take considerable risk and focusing on fixed income.
    Otherwise, as I noted in another thread, I really don't understand buying treasuries here, and while corprates and dividend paying stocks are fine and great, the race for yield is an immensely crowded trade - everyone and their cousin wants yield. That trade could go on for years, potentially, but I think it gets to a point where people may look at yield first and fundamentals second.
    People definitely don't like stocks (please, someone start liking stocks so CNBC can STFU about how the retail investor hasn't come back - it's getting to the point where I can't even have it on in the background - and now CNBC's number one idiot, Steve "Baghdad Bob" Leisman just said that the US is better off than the rest of the world, because look at this great Facebook IPO we're doing), and while the sentiment could be an indicator in favor of them, I think people have to be able to deal with what I think will be continued significant volatility because problems (like Europe) continue to be postponed and keep coming back.
    I don't think many people are willing to deal with that kind of volatility and furthermore, I think people see what's going on and - whether they're eventually going to be proven right or not - it just reinforces their view that the market is rigged, the market is too risky, the market is... (fill in the blank.) I will say that - and I've said this before - if the market really cracks again there will be tumbleweeds blowing through the NYSE - you'll lose the interest of another large portion of the population, both wealthy and not.
    Personally, I have some funds and a number of individual holdings where I think there's a compelling long-term story/theme and fundamentals (as I noted yesterday, largely overseas.) What else can ya do?
    As for rich folks, I think their view and their pulling money is why you've seen a number of hedge fund managers looking for "permanent capital" (Ackman: "... with permanent capital we can be more opportunistic during periods of market and investor distress.”) by either going for a public fund (Loeb, possibly Harbinger and Ackman now apparently early in 2013 - http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/ackman-to-go-public-with-pershing-square-holdings-in-2013-11985/) or a reinsurance company (Loeb, Einhorn, SAC) or are funds converting to mutual funds (RLSFX and the new Pimco Long/Short fund.)
  • RLSFX - RiverPark long short opportunity
    Reply to @kevindow: Looking at the Pimco fund, the prospectus offers an interesting note: "A privately offered fund managed by the Fund’s portfolio manager is
    expected to be reorganized into the Fund as of the date the Fund
    commences operations (i.e., on or about April 20, 2012). This privately
    offered fund was organized on December 1, 2002 and commenced
    operations on January 1, 2003 and had an investment objective and
    strategies that were, in all material respects, the same as those of the
    Fund, and was managed in a manner that, in all material respects,
    complied with the investment guidelines and restrictions of the Fund"
    While the performance of the prior fund is not an indicator of the new fund (yadda yadda fine print yadda yadda), as BWG noted, the performance of the prior fund is rather good for a long/short (although long-biased) offering. The global nature of this fund is also interesting (". The Fund may invest, without limitation, in securities and instruments that are economically tied to foreign (non-U.S.) countries, including securities and instruments that
    are economically tied to emerging market countries." The other element that makes this fund interesting - and what may also lead to higher volatility - is the note that it will be a concentrated fund.
    I do find it interesting the hedge funds turning to mutual fund movement (although a little movement, it's what RLSFX was and what this fund effectively is), but I will say I find this fund a lot more interesting than RLSFX (no offense to any RLSFX holders.)
  • RLSFX - RiverPark long short opportunity
    There are only 2 OEFs in the L/S space with attractive long-term returns: BPLSX and MFLDX. Since historically there has been an extremely high ratio of unattractive/attractive funds in this space, I would be very cautious about making more than a 5% bet in a L/S OEF. BPLSX is closed to new investors. And MFLDX has performed admirably, but its performance is a statistically outlier, and it has a very high expense ratio of 2.47%, which represents a stiff headwind to future performance.
    Right here, right now, I would classify MFLDX as a "Buy," and I would "Watch" RLSFX and PMHIX. Knowing PIMCO, they will never, ever close PMHIX to new investors. So I think that it is safe to watch this fund and not worry that they will close the fund to new investors anytime soon.
    Kevin
  • RLSFX - RiverPark long short opportunity
    Reply to @scott: MFLDX is definitely not afraid to use it shorting ability, as noted by its very recent performance. Its fun to have a chance to make money on both sides (long-short), but so rarely is it executed well.
    The only thing about MFLDX that bothers me is that the fund has gotten a bit larger (asset bloat) and thus less nimble. I suppose by today's standards its still not huge. Still, it would be nice if it closed.
    RLSFX has been a disappointment in its extremely short life. I always try to watch these long-short funds to see if they "buck the trend". Just another Fail so far.
  • RLSFX - RiverPark long short opportunity
    Hi, JB!
    I'll note, in passing, that I have not profiled RLSFX. I did report on its launch and its background as a hedge fund, but I haven't had time to speak with the management or to work through its strategies.
    I'm in the midst of a longer term series on risk-managed funds, which I hope with debut in June. I'd like to start by talking about when they might make sense, what you might reasonably expect of them and why so many fail, even by their own standards. I'll try to profile two long/short funds a month between June and September.
    And I will drop a note to the RiverPark folks, asking if they have comment on their strategy's early bumps.
    David
  • RLSFX - RiverPark long short opportunity
    Does anyone have any insight into this fund's recent performance? I invested in it soon after David S. profiled it. I am nervous about the market so wanted a hedged vehicle. Apparently it is not much safer (so far) than the market overall. It does not appear to be hedged very well at all. I have been in the fund for less than 2 months and already lost over 5%. Any thoughts or insight would be appreciated.