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In the last 4 days it looked like the followingIt was yielding over 20%. Of course it’s going to go down. Even if it went down by half it would yielding about 10%. As AUM increases, yield will fall. This is happening as expected. It’s also actively managed by Tad Rivelle. They may be trimming their risk. Cash looks to be building.
I don't own the fund but do you realize that BigTom didn't post any analysis or looked specifically into this fund, so what led you to believe that this fund has a liquidity issue.@BigTom is right-on in my opinion (on a few things here but we'll discuss liquidity). Investing in a fund with liquidity concerns in today's times is very risky. How soon we forget (?) I learned my lesson with IOFAX and will never purchase another fund with illiquid assets.
As @LewisBraham wrote, "mutual funds are restricted to a maximum private equity exposure of 15% for liquidity reasons. There have been disastrous examples despite those constraints. f I recall correctly, the Van Wagoner funds were among the worst."Because of the low AUM, they own very illiquid, very high yielding bonds. The volatility of these bonds is probably much higher than what the Morningstar performance chart suggests, but due to the illiquidity, you don’t see the big price swings.
In theory, if a fund is 15% illiquid, it could sell off all assets for at least 85% of NAV (recovering 100% of the value of its liquid securities by definition, and 0% or more on the illiquid securities).
An investor only has to look at what happened to Third Avenue Focus Credit fund to see the result.
Funds are required to price their securities daily. That this is difficult does not relieve them of this responsibility or allow them to cheat investors by misrepresenting prices. (IMHO the poster child for that sort of cheating is Heartland Funds.) They must mark to market, albeit with fair value pricing as needed.would you attribute the relatively small 5.2% peak to trough loss from 3/15 to 3/25 to the illiquid nature of many of these holdings not being priced mark to market?
I figure that TCW/MetWest has the necessary expertise.Regulatory experts say that if the S.E.C. does decide to crack down on Third Avenue, it will be related to this pricing issue ... The message was clear: Mutual fund boards are responsible for making sure that the investment adviser acts responsibly in pricing securities and ensuring there is enough cash on hand for investors looking to sell.
But experts worry that mutual fund boards these days do not have the expertise or the muscle to do this job effectively.
I don't see leverage here, and as I just noted, the other tools can just as easily be used to reduce volatility. Can you point to securities that juiced returns to 18%? I haven't found them yet.
Some funds use derivatives, leverage and/or high yielding/illiquid bonds to juice returns.
Interesting.Interesting. IOFIX, one month, 4.71%
Here we go again. We haven't seen you for a while.This is exactly the type of fund I love to own. Great managers, new fund, small AUM, under the radar fund. In the Multi sector bond category it has the best year to date performance + great volatility + very high yield. The fund has about 50% in MBS/securitized and about 55% in IG(investment grade) bonds, duration about 2.7.
My numbers are from TCW(
Why are you still 'pumping' risky funds with low SD?
SD deviation does not necessarily equate to risk.
Haven't you learned from the other funds you 'pumped' like SEMMX, IOFFX, JMUTX and PUCZX because they have short term 'momentum' with low SD?
Some of these funds were down 17% in one month.
Promoting a fund which has a small AUM, risky assets and low liquidity is irresponsible.
If investors flee from small AUM funds, it will put pressure on the fund to sell illiquid assets. The fund will be selling these illiquid assets at huge discounts resulting in significant losses.
An investor only has to look at what happened to Third Avenue Focus Credit fund to see the result.
https://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/11/third-avenue-to-liquidate-junk-bond-fund-that-bet-big-on-illiquid-assets.html
This is exactly the type of fund I love to own. Great managers, new fund, small AUM, under the radar fund. In the Multi sector bond category it has the best year to date performance + great volatility + very high yield. The fund has about 50% in MBS/securitized and about 55% in IG(investment grade) bonds, duration about 2.7.
My numbers are from TCW(
Well, several quotes from the pastThe basics are still the same: Know what you own, expect the worse(which is what I do) and past performance and volatility are not guaranteed.
I call BS on that advice FD. None of what you said is usable. This was a fund with good consistent returns and a very low STD to boot. It would have been easier to interpret the risk if the funds literature would have been more accurate, especially on liquidity and possible fire-sale risk. The fund collapsed 45% before the dust could settle. 40% within 2 days. Trading limits on mutual funds that only allow trades after the market closes gives an investor 2 days as the quickest reaction time to unload. Most here aren't day traders so your advice on this fund is worthless.
Sorry, but your infallible preaching is a bit nauseating.
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