Bond mutual funds analysis act 2 !! dt, thanks for your post.
I, like yourself, work through Schwab (I also am with Vanguard). I have had this discussion with my Schwab Pinnacle Representative in Indianapolis. Besides the short term redemption fee that the fund may impose, based on how Schwab processes orders with a fund family, he does not know how the fund would know that it is "you". I gather that if the fund is "small" and it receives a huge order from Schwab, it might trigger something.
I guess an analogy would be purchasing x dollars in a fund to qualify for institutional shares and then turning around and selling a bunch of shares. I have done this countless times with Schwab and Vanguard Brokerage and never heard a peep from either. This seems to support that the fund family did not know. If my representative at Schwab is correct, I wonder how American Beacon knew it was you.
On the related, what I also do not understand is that if for example American Beacon has a short term redemption fee and you are willing to pay it, what is the problem. If they do not have a short term redemption fee, then what is the problem. When I purchase and then sell a Vanguard fund, the trading policies are transparent.
Mona
Mona, I have not experienced the trading warning at Schwab, but I have not traded very often at Schwab. The personal experience I incurred was when I was at Fidelity, and it was Fidelity who contacted me, on behalf of American Beacon, with the warning about frequent trading from American Beacon. I had recently upgraded SPFPX to SPFLX, and I then had made a sell out SPFLX shortly thereafer, and that apparently triggered the warning.
Regarding DHEIX/DHEAX, I have not experienced that personally at Schwab, but I have only owned DHEAX a few months. However, I do recall another poster stating the "Diamond Hill Boys" frowned on his trading frequently in and out of the fund.
I don't understand the dynamics of the interaction between the fund companies and the brokerage companies, but I was clearly left with the message that it was American Beacon who had flagged my trade actions while I was using the Fidelity Brokerage
Bond mutual funds analysis act 2 !! I would just suggest that you research short term trading positions of bond oef funds you might consider for short term parking purposes. I have read poster comments of those who have attempted to use DHEIX in that manner. Diamond Hill issued warnings to those investors that they cannot execute their particular investing practice, if investors move in and out of this fund quickly and often. Some funds can red flag posters who do that, and you can lose your investing privileges with that fund. I have personally experienced that when I was with Fidelity a couple of years ago with SPFLX/SPFPX, when it was widely recommended as a cash alternative fund. American Beacon contacted Fidelity brokerage and suspended my ability to invest in that fund in the future, because I was interfering with their ability to carry out their particular investing practices and efforts to keep fees low. I think funds that carry a lot of cash, or assets considered "cash alternatives" allow that short term trading practice more than funds who use mortgage securities, bank loans, and even some corporates.
Bond mutual funds analysis act 2 !! FPFIX is a pretty good fund invested mainly in securitized and low duration=1.7 and a good "cash sub". Another similar fund is
DHEIX with duration=1.4. Both invested mostly in IG bond rating. I like
DHEIX a bit more because it's yield = 3.9 while FPFIX = 2.6.
Securitized is my favorite category for years because deals better with rates.
I ran it thru Port Vis (
link)
and
DHEIX looks better for performance, SD and Sharpe
Bond mutual funds analysis act 2 !! @guilhermesZEOIX had a good record for several years but HY have their problem when markets collapse. Losing -0.8% is a lot of money especially when you compare it to
DHEIX which has over 80% in IG rating bonds. BTW, ZEOIX also lost -0.6% in Q4/2018.
I'm just giving several options. If it was me and I was looking for a "cash sub" fund I would use
DHEIX and not ZEOIX. See (
chart)