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  • Harris Associates sells remaining shares of Credit Suisse
    "Previous charge" makes it sound like Samra was a fund manager (even if not the lead) on OAKIX. No question about ARTKX doing better than OAKIX, just about what Samra was actually charged with at Harris.
    It's true that he worked in Harris' international group, but that's as much responsibility as Sama was charged with. His name doesn't appear in any Oakmark prospectus (based on spot checking) in his Harris years of 1997-2002.
    One does find statements that he worked as a portfolio manager at Harris, e.g.
    Prior to joining Artisan Partners in May 2002, Mr. Samra was a portfolio manager and a senior analyst in international equities at Harris Associates LP, from August 1997 through May 2002.
    https://www.artisancanvas.com/?filter=tag+eq+artisan-canvas:authors/david-samra
    Though what Samra himself says is:
    I worked in the international group there with a very famous value investor, David Herro, who still operates the Oakmark International, Oakmark International Small Cap Fund. And I worked there for five years and left there in 2002. By then I had had almost 10 years worth of experience as an analyst and decided that like to try employing my own philosophy, and I found a terrific home here at Artisan. We launched the International Value Fund in 2002.
    https://mebfaber.com/2020/04/29/episode-216-david-samra-the-primary-driver-of-our-behavior-is-finding-a-company-that-trades-at-a-discount-to-intrinsic-value/
    At least he was a whole lot closer to being responsible for a fund than Santos got to working at Goldman Sachs. For all we know, Santos was just a copyboy for a company (LinkBridge Investors) that in turn did business with GS.
    https://people.com/politics/fact-checking-the-george-santos-claims-from-goldman-sachs-employee-to-college-volleyball-star/
    Side note: curiously, there appears to be a Jorge Santos who is a VP at GS. Scroll down to #46 in this Yahoo piece.
    https://www.yahoo.com/video/the-e-mpower-top-50-future-ethnic-minority-leaders-2019-230100555.html
  • Harris Associates sells remaining shares of Credit Suisse
    I certainly agree with the volatility. I have been in OAKIX for a number of years, and it finally got to my stomach in October of last year. I waited for it to bounce back and sold it yesterday. Today, I will put the proceeds into ARTKX which I have also held for a number of years.
  • Harris Associates sells remaining shares of Credit Suisse
    "Shares of Credit Suisse have erased about 95% of their value since the summer of 2007 after years of scandals and losses."
    You mean there was a towel left to throw in?
    With the exception of Mass Mutual Overseas fund (rated 3* or 4* depending on share class), all of the nine funds co-managed by Herro are rated 2* or 1*. Those include his flagship OAKIX and its clone NOIAX, both rated 1*.
    Still, M* analysts rate those two funds "gold". And "Morningstar named [Herro] International- Stock Fund Manager of the Year for 2006 and again for 2016, and also International- Stock Fund Manager of the Decade for 2000–09."
    https://www.morningstar.com/articles/812708/10-questions-with-david-herro
    Continuing from that 2017 M* page:
    How do you handle the scrutiny that comes with being such a large shareholder in controversial names such as Credit Suisse CSGN: CH?
    You stay focused on doing what is best for your clients, which means pushing managements to stay focused on long-term value creation.
    Keeping your eye on the ball doesn't help when the ball keeps bouncing lower and lower.
  • another argument for an EM ex-China fund
    Mark Mobius, in a Fox News interview discussing in Fortune, claims that China doesn't want to let him move his money out of the country.
    Mobius, founder of Mobius Capital Partners, has been a longtime booster of Chinese equities, yet revealed why he’d changed his mind ...
    The investor revealed that he had funds trapped in an account with HSBC in Shanghai. “I can’t get my money out. The government is restricting the flow of money out of the country,” he said.
    Mobius continued that the Chinese government was “putting all kinds of barriers” in his way. “They don’t say, ‘No, you can’t get your money out,’ but they say, ‘Give us all the records from 20 years of how you’ve made this money,’ and so forth. It’s crazy.”
    We've written about both successful EM funds with low China exposure (2021) and funds that, by prospectus, exclude China (2023).
    By coincidence, China's premier stepped down yesterday after 10 years in office. His departure was described as "marking a shift away from the skilled technocrats who have helped steer the world’s second-biggest economy in favor of officials known mainly for their unquestioned loyalty" to Xi (AP, 3/5/23).
    Both of the Seafarer funds are China-light, about 9% weight against a peer average of 28%. My other EM fund, Grandeur Peak, is about 11% China.
    For what caution it suggests,
    David
  • MS Mike Wilson Flipping
    Wilson noted the gap between reported earnings and cash flow is the widest in 25 years, driven by excess inventory and capitalized costs that have yet to be reflected.
  • MFO March 1, 2023 Commentary!
    Hi, sma!
    Hmmm ... I may have lost my claim to being a Weeble ("Weebles wobble, but they don't fall down!") but I'm still moving forward more than back.
    Working on setting up manager interviews. Seafarer Value (the only EM fund that didn't crash last year, top 3% since inception), Osterweis Strategic Income (they're one of the shortlist for my rebalanced toward bonds, RSIVX would be an option but I like spreading manager risk a bit), Leuthold Core (in an ongoing effort to give folks an option in a market that refuses to make sense; their portfolio makes frequent small shifts in response to outputs from their quant model) and Standpoint Multi Asset (for about the same reason, just with a shorter track record).
    I need to think about what I need to ask. My worst screw-ups come when I simply listen to the sweet song of a passionate manager or become enchanted by "the story." My better work starts with getting the facts down then pursuing the two or three questions that the public record doesn't allow me to answer.
    Then there's a mystery of North Star Microcap, a fund that Morningstar agrees has a micro-value portfolio but which, in the face of that, they moved to small-core. Up until 2022, they booked double-digit absolute returns in the prior two years when they had bottom tier relative ones. Then 2022 and a complete dump. Hmmm ...
    Oh, right. Also grading, rebuilding the Honors program and meeting a new faculty member and three student research groups today!
    Life's a party.
    David
  • Barron's and ESG
    I think that the drive for no till farming, the start up mentioned that claims to eliminate nitrogen fertilizer, and "precision planting " are driven by drought conditions, falling water tables and the need to reduce nitrogen runoff and be more ecologically sustainable.
    "Biotechnology, says Edgington, has accelerated the shift to no-till farming and other eco-friendly practices. “Biotech is helping the world’s environment, period,” he says."
    Sounds pretty "E" to me.
    Like a lot of Barron's articles this is really only the barest hint of how to invest. FPI for example may have been up 82% in the the last three years but it is down significantly in the last because of it's huge debt load as interest rates have increased.
  • BONDS, HIATUS ..... March 24, 2023
    Over, Under, Sideways, Down; February 27 - March 3, 2023
    The above is a song title of a Yardbirds song from 1966. Not about investing, but the words fit the current investing market place, eh?
    How about the state of things at the moment, it's all over the place, so it's sort of over, under, sideways, down.
    ---Over.....over valued
    ---Under..... under valued
    ---Sideways.....just plain sideways in values
    ---Down.....prices down for equity and bonds, bad; down yields for bonds, good for bond pricing and borrowing needs, private and business
    Other than these, everything is very clear in the investing world at this time :)
    Parts still on back order for the Magic 8 ball....crap!
    --- This list Feb. 20- 27 (most current for a full week) FUND FLOWS
    Pretty much bond-land for this time frame.
    Top 10 Creations (All ETFs) ...Ticker... Fund Name... Net In-Flows (millions)
    SHV iShares Short Treasury Bond ETF 3,146.28
    BIL SPDR Bloomberg 1-3 Month T-Bill ETF 1,841.76
    SGOV iShares 0-3 Month Treasury Bond ETF 1,339.54
    BND Vanguard Total Bond Market ETF 943.49
    SPTS SPDR Portfolio Short Term Treasury ETF 835.62
    JPST JPMorgan Ultra-Short Income ETF 695.99
    TLT iShares 20+ Year Treasury Bond ETF 685.80
    GBIL Goldman Sachs Access Treasury 0-1 Year ETF 626.00
    JEPI JPMorgan Equity Premium Income ETF 526.29
    SMLF iShares MSCI USA Small-Cap Multifactor ETF 490.80
    --- Friday, March 3.....ISM (Institute of Supply Management) services sector report is too 'hot' for the FED's liking. Too many folks still working. The number 50 is the base line, and the current number is 55.1, with an estimate of 54.5; the highest since December, 2021. One suspects we may find another higher (.5) Fed funds rate increase in our near future.
    ISM services covers many areas of economic measurements. Read about them here, if you're curious about the reports.
    ***Bonds were in a funk until Friday helped many sectors become happy for the week. The Real Yield thread at MFO may help with some of the current thinking. I remain with the thought that the 'pundits', if they're drinkers, would rather be throwing a few down at their favorite bar; as I'm convinced a lot of them don't know which darts to use for the board, either. I always keep in mind while watching yields that they only apply to our investing to a point, as I'm not buying individual bonds to hold for ten years or whatever time frame to obtain a full 4% rate. Our house watches the yields and how they are going to affect pricing, as we're buying the price, not the yield. Pension funds and related may be happy with long term holdings of bonds; but we retail investors for the most part, are buying bond mutual funds or bond etf's; and this is where pricing becomes most important, IMHO. NOTE: 'Hedge funds' also play big in the bond etf world. Yes, we may want to hold the fund or etf long term, but our goal is to buy 'low', right? Wouldn't it be nice to buy a fund with a sideways price and a yield of +6%; and just hold on, to support your income flows and balance one's equity holdings.
    Those MMKT's. Stagnant yields again this week, as they've hit a plateau; but most still having a yield between 4.2 and 4.5%, unless it's a magic sauce MMKT. Perhaps another bump up in yields when the FED raises rates again.
    --- U.S.$ DOWN -.64% for the week, +1.18% YTD (Big POP this week)
    *** UST yields chart, 6 month - 30 year. This chart is active and will display a 6 month time frame going forward to a future date. Place/hover the mouse pointer anywhere on a line to display the date and yield for that date. The percent to the right side is the percentage change in the yield from the chart beginning date for a particular item. You may also 'right click' on the 126 days at the chart bottom to change a 'time frame' from a drop down menu. Hopefully, the line graph also lets you view the 'yield curve' in a different fashion, for the longer duration issues, at this time. Save the page to your own device for future reference.
    A good day to you.....
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    ---Several selected bond funds returns since October 25, 2022. I'll retain this date, as it is a recent inflection point when bonds began to have positive price moves. We'll need to watch if this was just a 'blip'.
    NOTE: I've kept the prior dated reports in the beginning of this thread; and have added YTD to this data.
    For the WEEK/YTD, NAV price changes, Febuary 27 - March 3, 2023
    ***** This week (Friday), FZDXX, MMKT yield continues to move with Fed funds/repo/SOFR rates and ended the week at 4.46% (flat lined now). The core Fidelity MMKT's have continued a slow creep upward to 4.22%. The holdings of these different funds account for the variances at this time. *** These rates have now mostly flat lined for two weeks.
    --- AGG = +.19% / +.58% (I-Shares Core bond), a benchmark, (AAA-BBB holdings)
    --- MINT = +.02% / +1.15% (PIMCO Enhanced short maturity, AAA-BBB rated)
    --- SHY = -.02% / -.12% (UST 1-3 yr bills)
    --- IEI = -.07% / -.49% (UST 3-7 yr notes/bonds)
    --- IEF = +.05% / -.22% (UST 7-10 yr bonds)
    --- TIP = +1.36% / +1.48% (UST Tips, 3-10 yrs duration, some 20+ yr duration)
    --- VTIP = +.71% / +.81% (Vanguard Short-Term Infl-Prot Secs ETF)
    --- STPZ = +.72% / +.66% (UST, short duration TIPs bonds, PIMCO)
    --- LTPZ = +3.0% / +4.14% (UST, long duration TIPs bonds, PIMCO)
    --- TLT = +1.16% / +2.86% (I Shares 20+ Yr UST Bond
    --- EDV = +1.66% / +4.31% (UST Vanguard extended duration bonds)
    --- ZROZ = +2.38% / +5.05% (UST., AAA, long duration zero coupon bonds, PIMCO
    --- TBT = -2.3% / -5.14% (ProShares UltraShort 20+ Year Treasury (about 23 holdings)
    --- TMF = +2.8% / +4.6% (Direxion Daily 20+ Yr Trsy Bull 3X ETF (about a 3x version of EDV etf)
    *** Additional important bond sectors, for reference:
    --- BAGIX = +.1% / +.57% (active managed, plain vanilla, high quality bond fund)
    --- LQD = +.66% / +1.37% (I Shares IG, corp. bonds)
    --- BKLN = +.96% / +3.92% (Invesco Senior Loan, Corp. rated BB & lower)
    --- HYG = +1.35% / +2.6% (high yield bonds, proxy ETF)
    --- HYD = +.1 %/+1.2% (VanEck HY Muni)
    --- MUB = +.44% /+.36% (I Shares, National Muni Bond)
    --- EMB = +.58%/+1.62% (I Shares, USD, Emerging Markets Bond)
    --- CWB = +1.15% / +5.67% (SPDR Bloomberg Convertible Securities)
    --- PFF = +1.4% / +7.67% (I Shares, Preferred & Income Securities)
    --- FZDXX = 4.46% yield (7 day), Fidelity Premium MMKT fund
    *** FZDXX yield was .11%, April,2022.
    Comments and corrections, please.
    Remain curious,
    Catch
  • Or does this belong under "fund discussions?" GQG/Adani
    Physical ailments: sorry to hear about that. In 2021, after surgery, doc told me: "Yes, I removed what was left of your L-5 disc. So much pain for so many years. Now, quite a bit less. So, you use PT. i found it to be quite useless. Best wishes to you as we ALL grow older.
  • BONDS, HIATUS ..... March 24, 2023
    Thanks @Sven.
    Your link didn’t work for me, but found the Zweig article in my Kindle edition of the WSJ from Saturday. Never been a big Zweig fan. Good advice usually, just not very deep. But he hits the nail on the head in leading off with the following:
    ”Bonds are getting beaten down again. That means they can do a better job of protecting the rest of your portfolio against getting beaten up.”
    I agree. But it all depends on one’s investment approach. Certainly, the 4-5%+ returns on short term bonds & money funds are attractive and relatively risk-free. Fits the bill for many. All the while longer dated bond funds have been losing money. But for those who are more aggressively positioned in equities, having some intermediate or longer dated bonds / bond funds might provide a needed offset should the equity markets go to hell. Not saying that will happen. Just that for some folks bonds may have a role to play in how they construct their portfolios. I’ve tried to derive lessons from the 2008 fiasco. Appears most bonds / bond funds did not do very well but that those with government backing (especially longer dated) gained during 2008.
    It’s increasingly hard to find people in the investing business today who think U.S. stocks offer the same value proposition now that intermediate term bonds do. Doesn’t mean they have it right. And I prefer to stick to an allocation model I’ve put a lot of thought into over many years rather than jumping from one “hot” investment idea to another.
    Another observation: If I understand Zweig correctly, near the end of the article he says he thinks commodities will rise along with interest rates. Interesting conjecture.
  • Your tax dollars at work - US Treasury/Savings Bonds
    After all, one's got 30 years to get things straightened out.
    Not sure I want to hold on to them for that long. Five year holding period is required for I bonds before facing the 3 months interest penalty. Selling the paper I bond at local bank sounds reasonable as @yogibearbull suggested. This would be a brand new experience since I last sold stock (certificates from employee stock plan) several decades ago.
  • PSTL div 28 Feb '23
    For many years we received the current issue of The Economist on Saturday. As of a few months ago it now comes three or four days later- Tuesday or Wednesday. Good grief!
    Trump's selection for Postmaster: Louis DeJoy. Saboteur from within.
  • Your tax dollars at work - US Treasury/Savings Bonds
    IMHO the problems I or sma3 experienced shouldn't be viewed as so difficult that buying the tax refund bonds isn't worth doing. After all, one's got 30 years to get things straightened out.
    I could have simply mailed the $50 bond back, waited four months or so, and watched for it to show up in my TD account. I was just annoyed by the facts that TD didn't do what it said it would do (issue electronic replacements) and I wound up being the one paying (in postage and personal time and effort) for it. Next time, if there is a next time, I can just wait out however long it takes for things to work as expected.
    And the USPS did deliver 11 out of the 12 savings bonds (each in its own envelope) correctly the first time. Maybe you'll get lucky and get all dozen delivered properly.
    My guess as to the cause of sma3's trouble is that there were various combinations of siblings as co-owners on the savings bonds. While TD says that only one owner's signature is required to cash a paper bond, the bank may have been overcautious and wanted everyone to sign together. These days, how many paper bonds do they cash?
    "Both owners must sign for most other transactions [aside from cashing the savings bond]"
    https://www.treasurydirect.gov/savings-bonds/buy-a-bond/register-a-bond/
    This is just one of a few reasons why I feel it is better to keep the savings bonds in electronic form.
    If you inherit paper bonds and want to get them into electronic form, it's a little tricky because there are instructions for inheriting bonds, instructions for converting to electronic form, but not instructions to do both in one step. I was in that situation a few years ago, back when TD was helpful. I got very clear instructions on what form to use and what to mail in. No problems, handled quickly. I might be able to dig up those instructions if someone needs them.
    Those savings bonds reached final maturity and I got a timely automated email from TD informing me of the pending maturity. After they matured, I was able to log in and cash out nearly immediately. That still works.
  • PSTL div 28 Feb '23
    For many years we received the current issue of The Economist on Saturday. As of a few months ago it now comes three or four days later- Tuesday or Wednesday. Good grief!
  • AVGE for what interest it may hold for others
    @Mark and @MikeM: I also abandoned the Akre Focus fund after several years and holding it profitably in three different family accounts. However, the fund seems to have lost its individuality, perhaps as a result of its size, its concentration and its buy-and-hold-forever strategy. There seems to be no more room for investing in the mid-caps that used to generate good returns. Avantis does have some promising funds.
  • Your tax dollars at work - US Treasury/Savings Bonds
    My sisters and I cashed three matured paper bonds my recently deceased Mom bought years ago.
    It required the three of us to sit in a bank officer's office for over a two hours signing, notarizing etc. We eventually got the money ( took several months) but it was a huge waste of time and required us to all be in the same place
  • AVGE for what interest it may hold for others
    Thanks @Mark. I recently made a switch from AKREX to this ETF. Certainly not an apples to apples category switch, but I like the components and process of AVGE. If I remember correctly, when the Aker fund started out, in it's hay day, it was also multi-cap. I think after years of success it got to big to be that and settled in as a large cap. Possibly the retirement of Chuck Aker also has something to do with 3 years of under performance. But in any case, I made the switch to AVGE.
  • Dodge and Cox Annual Reports posted
    I keep reviewing my developed market funds for Chinese stock exposure, but they still have a few that required looking though the entire portfolio. I eliminated VWO several years ago as I grew uncontrollable with the Belt & Road Initiative. Seafarer is the only fund I invest today and it contains consumer staples and discretionary stocks, nothing in construction and technology.
  • Supreme Court to hear case that threatens consumer protection agency and other federal agencies
    Following are lightly edited excerpts from a current NPR report:
    The Supreme Court agreed on Monday to take up a case that could threaten the existence of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and potentially the status of numerous other federal agencies, including the Federal Reserve.
    A panel of three Trump appointees on the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled last fall that the agency's funding is unconstitutional because the CFPB gets its money from the Federal Reserve, which in turn is funded by bank fees.
    Although the agency reports regularly to Congress and is routinely audited, the Fifth Circuit ruled that is not enough. The CFPB's money has to be appropriated annually by Congress or the agency, and everything it does is unconstitutional, the lower courts said.
    The CFPB is not the only agency funded this way. The Federal Reserve itself is funded not by Congress but by banking fees. The U.S. Postal Service, the U.S. Mint, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., which protects bank depositors, and more, are also not funded by annual congressional appropriations.
    In its brief to the Supreme Court, the Biden administration noted that even programs like Social Security and Medicare are paid for by mandatory spending, not annual appropriations.
    "This marks the first time in our nation's history that any court has held that Congress violated the Appropriations Clause by enacting a law authorizing spending," wrote the Biden administration's Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar.
    Conservatives who have long opposed the modern administrative state have previously challenged laws that declared heads of agencies can only be fired for cause. In recent years, the Supreme Court has agreed and struck down many of those provisions. The court has held that administrative agencies are essentially creatures of the Executive Branch, so the president has to be able to fire at-will and not just for cause.
    But while those decisions did change the who, in terms of who runs these agencies, they did not take away the agencies' powers. Now comes a lower court decision that essentially invalidates the whole mission of the CFPB.
    The CFPB was the brainchild of then White House aide, and now U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren. She issued a statement Monday noting that lower courts have previously and repeatedly upheld the constitutionality of the CFPB.
    "If the Supreme Court follows more than a century of law and historical precedent," she said, "it will strike down the Fifth Circuit's decision before it throws our financial market and economy into chaos."
    The high court will not hear arguments in the case until next term, so a decision is unlikely until 2024.
  • Dodge and Cox Annual Reports posted
    @Observant1
    Thanks for link to Professor Snowball's article on China. There he says small cap funds, are less likely to be in China
    One small cap value fund, not strictly EM, that has done well over the years ( That David profiled in 2015) is QUSIX
    China LT 1% here