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  • Your favorite Dividend Paying Funds
    Anyone have a list of dividend paying funds they recommend?
    Fundamentals are more complex than they seem.
    One of the simplest, yet most overlooked, stock market fundamentals is the dividend yield. Dividends are actual cash flows being paid out by corporations into the hands of investors.
    You can’t fake, manipulate or fudge a dividend payment by hiring a talented CPA.
    Dividends also happen to be one of the most resilient features of the stock market over the long-term.
    A little bumpy at times but the real growth rate of 2.1% over the rate of inflation over the last 100 years is impressive.
    That doesn’t sound like much but the inflation rate over this time frame was just shy of 3%. So nominal dividends have grown at an annual rate of roughly 5% since 1920.
    the-best-source-of-investment-income/
  • BUY - SELL - PONDER - MAY 2020

    This is a great thread and I hope someone will come forward to keep it going should Pud still be with his posture that this will be his last month to host the thread. He has done this for the past couple of years and pretty much feels, as I felt, it is time to move aside for another to step forward. Best wishes to you Pud ... and, thanks again for hosting the thread. I'm sure it's appreciated by many.
    Thanks Pud. I used to run a similar thread over at M* but work got in the way and I began to get late throwing up new threads for each month. When I created the short-lived M* forums alternative site last year after leaving the s--tty new forums at M*, I just established a 'Consolidated Buy/Sell/Why' thread that didn't need a new one to be created each month.....we would just add to it continuously. Maybe do that here?
  • BUY - SELL - PONDER - MAY 2020
    With equities having the strong run that they have had of late, and the fact that I was a buyer of equities during the stock market swoon, this has left me light on the income side of my portfolio and heavy on the equity side. Since, cash is paying very little I elected to use the proceeds from a maturing CD and add to the following funds. They were BLADX, FLAAX & PFANX. Combined they are kicking off a yield in the 4% range whereas if I had rolled the CD into another CD I was looking at a yield of less than 1%. I'm also thinking there well be some price appreciation coming to these funds as investors seek out yield and move away from holding large positions in cash.
    For now, I have decided to let my equities run. When I trim equities I will most likely raise my cash position with the equity sell proceeds. Then I'll await the next stock market pullback and repeat the (buy, hold, & sell) spiff process.
    This is a great thread and I hope someone will come forward to keep it going should Pud still be with his posture that this will be his last month to host the thread. He has done this for the past couple of years and pretty much feels, as I felt, it is time to move aside for another to step forward. Best wishes to you Pud ... and, thanks again for hosting the thread. I'm sure it's appreciated by many.
    Old_Skeet
  • Vanguard’s $50 Billion Woman Found Winners in Bond-Market Chaos
    “The Fed will be accommodative for years,” Wright-Casparius said.
    Seems to me like they've been "accomadative" since Greenspan.
  • Don’t even think of owning stocks unless you’re willing to buy and hold for at least 10 years
    @JohnN and @davidrmoran - Thanks for posting this. While I may disagree with the writer’s conclusions, the underlying topic being discussed is of value to most investors.
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    Just a quick read suggests this article is mostly gibberish. I agree overall that investing in risk markets should be done only with a 10-year or longer time horizon in mind. That’s because trends (both up and down) can persist for very long periods. Risk assets generally include stocks, real estate, distressed debt, commodities and longer dated investment grade bonds (which are highly sensitive to changes in prevailing interest rates).
    With the above aside, there are some problems with his supporting data, conclusions and logical (illogical?) extensions. Any “back testing” of bond returns needs to be taken with a large grain of salt. When have interest rates been so low? When, if ever, has the Federal Reserve engaged in such a massive and long lasting effort to keep interest rates low while pumping trillions of dollars into the economy (and markets)? This unprecedented effort dates back at least to late 2007 and - some would argue - back to Greenspan days. Volumes have now been written about the distortions arising from this prolonged low rate period. Also note that yields on investment grade / government bonds have been trending lower for the past 30 years (resulting in higher and higher bond prices).
    At this point, I can’t agree that investment grade longer duration bonds are “safer” for most investors than other risk assets. And, if dealing with this question in your portfolio, be sure to take into consideration that you very likely own more bonds than you think owing to those held by your balanced and allocation funds. I do still find value in bonds, even at today’s extremely low rates, as a “hedge” within a more diversified portfolio. Think of bond investments as “insurance”. The trifling return on them, if any, (and potential loss) is the cost / penalty you pay for “insurance” against widespread equity depreciation should the U.S. and global economies slide into a deep prolonged recession. I’m not predicting that. However, we typically carry insurance against things we don’t expect to happen. And if you’re a “portfolio watcher” as many of us are, those bond holdings will tend to smooth out your short term volatility and help you maintain your sanity.
    As an aside here ... a 10 year government bond purchased today and held to maturity will net you somewhere, I suspect, between 0.35% and 0.75% annually over that period - depending on fees and associated costs of ownership. On any given day an investment in the broader equity markets has a pretty good chance of returning more back to you than the bond would over a full year. Are investment grade long-dated bonds a “good” investment? I submit the answer is No. Can they be a useful hedging tool? Yes - in moderation,
    Disclosure - Funds that invest substantially in intermediate / longer duration bonds and which I own: DODLX, RPSIX, PBDIX
  • Chips and Geopolitics
    Seems like some beer and salsa might help the situation with chips and politics:
    The reason this matters is because chips matter for many use cases outside of PCs and servers — Intel’s focus — which is to say that TSMC matters. Nearly every piece of equipment these days, military or otherwise, has a processor inside. Some of these don’t require particularly high performance, and can be manufactured by fabs built years ago all over the U.S. and across the world; others, though, require the most advanced processes, which means they must be manufactured in Taiwan by TSMC.
    This is a big problem if you are a U.S. military planner. Your job is not to figure out if there will ever be a war between the U.S. and China, but to plan for an eventuality you hope never occurs. And in that planning the fact that TSMC’s foundries — and Samsung’s — are within easy reach of Chinese missiles is a major issue.
    https://stratechery.com/2020/chips-and-geopolitics/
  • Don’t even think of owning stocks unless you’re willing to buy and hold for at least 10 years

    My long-long term portfolio has several stock positions that haven't done anything but reinvest for over 20 years. Boring is beautiful when it comes to long-term wealth accumulation.
    My more active portfolio has a few like that, but I tend to trade a bit more in that account, as i did earlier this year.
  • Don’t even think of owning stocks unless you’re willing to buy and hold for at least 10 years
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dont-even-think-of-owning-stocks-unless-youre-willing-to-buy-and-hold-for-this-many-years-2020-05-19
    Opinion: Don’t even think of owning stocks unless you’re willing to buy and hold for at least 10 years
    M.Hulbert article
    If you want a 95% probability of stocks outperforming bonds, you better plan on 20 years....
    Imho maybe 3-10 yrs may see reasonable gains, but if hold on 20 yrs, may even be better...maybe ???++450s% by the time you are done [hopeful speculative thinking]
  • Mutual Funds with the Highest Perpetual Withdraw Rate
    From memory because I have done it so many times.
    VWINX(38/62) vs VWELX(65/35) no contest, over long term VWELX performance is about 10-15% better but SD(volatility) is about 50% higher and why VWINX is a better risk-adjust retuned fund.
    PRWCX is one of the best allocation funds. It ranks 1 for performance for 5-10-15 years. PRWCX performance is about 1.5% better annually than VWELX. PRWCX SD is a bit higher but it still wins. PRWCX is so good it even beat SP500 for 1-3-5-15 years(10 is close) for performance and definitely for SD.
    VWELX+VWINX are simpler with mainly 2 categories, US LC + higher-rated corp bonds. PRWCX is a flexible fund where the mangers made great calls.
    QQQ (all stocks) crush all the above for performance. For 3 years it's more than double of SPY+PRWCX and almost double for 5 years. QQQ also leads several % for 10-15. High tech rule the world.
  • Harvard’s Reinhart and Rogoff Say, "This Time Really Is Different"
    Interview with Harvard’s Reinhart and Rogoff.
    Some excerpts:
    The biggest positive productivity shock we’ve had over the last 40 years has been globalization together with technology. And I think if you take away the globalization, you probably take away some of the technology.
    ...you probably need a debt moratorium that’s fairly widespread for emerging markets and developing economies. As an analogy, the IMF or Chapter 11 bankruptcy is very good at dealing with a couple of countries or a couple of firms at a time. But just as the hospitals can’t handle all the Covid-19 patients showing up in the same week, neither can our bankruptcy system and neither can the international financial institutions
    I indeed hope it is the G-20 and not just the G-19. China needs to be on board with debt relief. That’s a big issue. The largest official creditor by far is China. If China is not fully on board on granting debt relief, then the initiative is going to offer little or no relief. If the savings are just going to be used to repay debts to China, well, that would be a tragedy.
    Do you see an inflationary surge at some point?
    KR: We don’t know where we will come out. So the probability is, for the foreseeable future, we’ll have deflation. But at the end of this, I think we’re going to have experienced an extremely negative productivity shock with deglobalization. In terms of growth and productivity, they will be lasting negative shocks, and demand may come back. And then you have the many forces that have led to very low inflation maybe going into reverse, either because of deglobalization or because workers will strengthen their rights. The market sees essentially zero chance of ever having inflation again. And I think that’s very wrong.
    BM: And what scars are left on economies once the pandemic passes?
    CR: Some of the scars are on supply chains. I don’t think we’ll return to their precrisis normal. We’re going to see a lot of risk aversion. We’ll be more inward-looking, self-sufficient in medical supplies, self-sufficient in food.
    Harvard’s Reinhart and Rogoff Say This Time Really Is Different:
    harvard-s-financial-crisis-experts-this-time-really-is-different
  • BUY - SELL - PONDER - MAY 2020
    Good morning, have place orders for buys: VDE, VONG, UNH, ITOT, SPY. New monies from 5/15 dividends and got paid last Fri.
    Will sell 50% of BRK.B [Stocks perform same as Buffet's recent energy levels - maybe more idle past few years].
    We are hopeful for summer recovery since covid-viral mortality/morbidity data has been limited [?bulls market favorable] the past few days [maybe curve flattening indeed is happening]. Maybe we will have slow/moderate economic recovery soon. We will see for sure in few weeks/months.
    Bought for FBND, PCI PDI for Mama's retired portfolio.
    Regards
  • Have You Suspened RMDs This Year?
    I was thinking about Romney as I wrote that, @msf. A few years after this IRA was news, another wealthy candidate complained that the system was rigged, although he probably didn’t know at the time that the Electoral College was the fix. I have lowly mutual funds in my Roth and I do not have an elevator for my cars, as Romney’s house in SoCal apparently does.
  • PRWCX Position in GE
    I think Giroux is one of the best managers and why I post about PRWCX so much as a good allocation fund option (with VLAIX).
    I actually bought GE as a trade because of Giroux in 2019 and made money but so far he is wrong.
    A true story, in 2000 I had the pleasure to work with two retired gents from GE and Lucent. The first guy had 6000 shares of GE at 60 each worth $360K and the second guy had $300K in Lucent and that was most of their money. The market was going down in the next 2-3 years and both refused to sell any share. I was begging them to sell. The first guy lost 2/3 of his money, the second guy lost everything. Along the way, each had many reasons not to sell.
    This is why they say keep your winners and sell your losers.
  • Have You Suspened RMDs This Year?
    @hank: It’s likely that the rich don’t even worry about RMDs because their wealth is not tied up in tax-deferred accounts. I agree with @catch22 that doing the paperwork is not worth my time. I’ve been obliged to take distributions for about 8 years, lump-sum for a while, and monthly over the past 3 years. If I’d been taking mine at year end, I could have had more choice. Fully agree with the sentiment that just leaving the money to grow guarantees nothing.
  • Mutual Funds with the Highest Perpetual Withdraw Rate
    ... with PRWCX, based on returns over the past 20 years, starting with a 4% initial withdrawal amount (inflation adjusted), and requiring the worst year to come first, one may have a 98% chance of surviving 30 years.
    Superb number-crunching from @msf. Suspect he carries a slide-rule day and night. :)
    Can’t help but wonder if it’s similarity possible to calculate the % chance that PRWCX will produce the same (or better) rate of return / drawdown assurance over those next 30 years as for the past 20? That aside, I would never bet against Giroux - though he’s already been at the helm 14 years and will be a bit grey-haired in 30 more.
    Fans of PRWCX might be interested to know that even in the current dismal market it’s been consistently besting my stalwart benchmark fund, TRRIX. It is currently off only about 5% YTD compared to TRRIX’s 6% loss. That’s pretty amazing considering that longer term PRWCX is the more aggressive fund and usually outperforms TRRIX by a long shot. I suspect that speaks, in part, to the diminishing value / appeal of fixed-income investments.
    My only suggestion would be that in the overall picture I think it more prudent to look at what a more diversified portfolio (focusing more on underlying assets) might generate long term than to focus on one or a handful of funds.
  • PRWCX Position in GE
    I can't believe it never dawned on me that GEnworth had been part of GE.
    I believe they were the last LTC provider to sell policies that you could completely pay for over a fixed number of years. More costly up front to do this, but it protected you from large premium increases once paid off. As carew388 noted, the industry was discovering that it had mispriced policies, so all insurers were implementing massive premium hikes.
    GE spun off Genworth in 2004. However, it was stuck with reinsurance liabilities of at least $15B. Today it still owns legacy reinsurance companies carrying these liabilities.
    The partial divestiture of GE Capital that I'm more familiar with came after the GFC. As part of Dodd Frank, the Financial Stability Oversight Council designated AIG, Prudential, MetLife, and GE Capital systemically important financial institutions. Like TBTF banks, that meant more regulation.
    "In April 2015, GE announced that it intended to sell most of GE Capital over the next 18 months to 24 months in an effort, in part, to no longer be designated as systemically important."
    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42150.pdf
    People surely know of Synchrony Bank, formerly GE Capital Retail Bank, and Marcus (Goldman Sachs) Bank, formerly GE Capital Bank. These were some of the institutions that GE Capital sold off. What's left of GE Capital is still owned by GE. It just ain't what it used to be.
  • Mutual Funds with the Highest Perpetual Withdraw Rate
    what's interesting is to not use longest time frame but to set the start date to 2007, so you're going into retirement at a very bad time. i did it w PRWCX. started with 1 mil and at the end of 2019 you had 780k with a max drawdown of 55%, at the 10th percentile. scary. but at least you still had money. oh -- did retirement of 20 years. thanks for posting this!

    I could not figure out where to set a custom start date. I'm pretty sure I clicked all the options. What am I missing?
    There is a tendency to use this tool as black box oracle. I'm not faulting the use of a simulator to run models per se. Rather I'm suggesting that people may not fully appreciate what is being modeled.
    The Monte Carlo simulation engine of PV does not appear to allow a user to pick the starting date for the simulated runs. When one specifies a range of dates (which one does by setting "Use Full History" to "No"), one is specifying the data set (annual returns) from which the simulator randomly selects returns. It doesn't mean that the simulated runs start with the 2007 performance.
    By selecting 2007 to 2019, you're telling the simulator to use one of 13 annual returns for each year in each run. Which means, among other things, that a run of 20 years must duplicate the returns from some years, since it needs 20 1 year returns and it's got only 13 years to choose from.
    See "Historical Returns" in the "Methodology" section of PV's FAQs.
    The simulator does have an option where you can tell it to start with the worst year (or worst two, or worst three, or ...). So if a simulated run of 20 years has returns r1, r2, ..., r20, and r5 is the worst, the simulator reorders the returns as r5, r1, r2, r3, r4, r6, ....
    Better, but not perfect, because the worst run in your data set may not be in the simulated run. Still, this is much better than nothing.
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    Numbers:
    If you use this option with QQQ over 30 years with an initial withdrawal amount equal to 4% of the portfolio (subsequently inflation adjusted), then the simulations say that about 5% of the time your portfolio doesn't survive 30 years.
    2007 was not the worst time to start retirement. The S&P 500 returned 3.53% that year, and QQQ returned 18.7%. See graph. If one is looking for a poorly performing data set, one would be better off excluding 2007 and starting with 2008.
    Running the model with data from 2008 through 2019, 5% of the time the portfolio doesn't survive. Add in the requirement that the first year in any simulated run is the worst, and 6% or so of runs don't survive. Not a big difference.
    For kicks, I ran QQQ, 4% starting withdrawal (inflation adjusted) for the lost decade (2000-2009). Less than 1 in 5 survive for 20 years, barely 5% survive 30. Expand the data set to the past 20 years (2000-2019), and about 7 in 10 survive 20 years; a bit over half survive 30. That doesn't include starting each run with the worst year which would make things worse.
    Not comforting figures. Forget about getting the original investment back (perpetual withdrawal rate). According to the model, assuming returns over the next 20 years are like the past 20, there's a good chance that the money won't even last at all.
    OTOH, with PRWCX, based on returns over the past 20 years, starting with a 4% initial withdrawal amount (inflation adjusted), and requiring the worst year to come first, one may have a 98% chance of surviving 30 years.
  • Space Force - investment opportunities

    I've always been a proponent of defense investing as a long-term allocation in my accounts. Have held several individual stocks over the years and also own FSDAX.
    The top really has blown off of this sector. Seems like a good opportunity to build a position in a fund like FSDAX
  • Space Force - investment opportunities

    I've always been a proponent of defense investing as a long-term allocation in my accounts. Have held several individual stocks over the years and also own FSDAX.