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My opinion of brokerage education about CD investing is not that good. When I have engaged in communication with brokerage experts on CDs, they fail to do a good job comparing the differences between brokerage CDs and bank CDs, fail to do a good job of explaining ongoing value fluctuations of brokerage CDs that are reflected at the end of each trading day, fail to explain termination fee information for brokerage CDs, fail to address liquidity concerns for brokerage CDs in taxable accounts vs tax deferred accounts, fail to discuss ways of measuring the financial health of banks offering CDs on the brokerage platform, fail to discuss callable vs. non-callable CDs, etc. etc.@stillers : "
I've netted anywhere from a % or 2 to upwards of 4%-5% extra proceeds over the years. For example, one BUY I still have the detail on shows I paid $47,739 (priced at 92.931) for a $50,000 CD for an effective Discount of 4.52%. Yeah, after all of the funds slushed through over the CD's life, that was worth my time and effort! "
First question , how long did you have to hold this CD in order to collect the $50K ?
Holding period would have some bearing on how good of a deal it was.
Wouldn't the brokerage take advantage on this instead of passing it down to it's customers ?
Thanks for your time, much appreciated.
@yogibearbull - thanks! I clearly read too fast.This looks like Price Equity Index 500 PORTFOLIO that is offered via insurance products. AUM is $26.8 million only and ER is 39 bps.
https://markets.ft.com/data/funds/tearsheet/summary?s=0P00003DWI
https://www.troweprice.com/financial-intermediary/us/en/investments/mutual-funds/us-products/equity-index-500-portfolio.html
Unless I am mistaken, NOT affected are regular Price Equity Index FUNDs (AUM $25.3 billion) in classes PREIX (20 bps), PRUIX (5 bps), TRHZX (5 bps). Now, if Price liquidated those, that would be market moving news.
Not sure why Vanguard is so different than Schwab. I randomly clicked on multiple CDs in all maturity ranges, at Schwab, and they were all non-callable. These are very well known banks offering these CDs (Morgan Stanley, Wells Fargo, Bank of American, UBS, Discover, etc. etc.). There also a large number of regional and state banks, with high financial ratings, offering the same. From what I have read from other posters, Fidelity offers very similar non-callable CDs that Schwab is offering.Last check at Vanguard , longer Cd's Callable. Not my cup of tea !
The debt/equity ratio is now a feature in all my screens on MFO premium. I'm also looking for good Martin ratio numbers.how are companies going to roll over debt when they need to refinance at higher rates?
Like Sharpe and Sortino, it measures excess return, but relative to its typical drawdown. After the 2000 tech bubble and 2008 financial crisis, which together resulted in a “lost decade” for stocks, investors have grown very sensitive to drawdowns. Martin excels at identifying funds that have delivered superior returns while mitigating drawdowns. It too is best used when comparing funds of same category over same evaluation period – this very comparison is the basis for determining a fund’s MFO Rating metric.
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