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  • Family fund rankings
    It ranking family funds, did anyone take into consideration the effect of a family, merging a fund or liquidating it ?
    If memory serves me right, Turner closed one or merged one a few years back. Wouldn't this detract from it's overall ranking ?
    Derf
  • Should You Buy Target-Date Funds?
    Good point John.
    If you are reading this board (and therefore Ted's link) .... you probably shouldn't buy these funds.
    I put 10% of a price target fund (an appropriate year) as a control on how I was doing.While probably not as capable as some on this site I suspect I am at least average. Some years I outperformed, other years I didn't My underperformance in recent years occurred for two major reasons. Too much in emerging markets in recent years and using more stable income than a bond fund. Both strategies were wrong in recent years/I think you have to be very capable to have a diversified portfolio that will outperform a decent target fund over a longish period of time
  • Suggestions for "Near-Cash"
    I know this topic has been tossed around numerous times on this board, but I'm always looking for suggestions on what to do with my cash. I'm 50 years old with more than $100,000 sitting in banks and credit unions earning about 0.50 % in interest. I know it will erode in value over time due to inflation, so I would like to beat that at the very least without taking a big risk with principal. I already have nearly $1M in a conservative portfolio (35% Bonds) (40% equities) (25% cash) so I'm looking to do something with a portion of the cash. Part of it should stay in an emergency fund, but I have about $100,000 that doesn't need to be used for at least 3-5 years. I call it "near cash." I've been looking at a few suggestions on the board, such LALDX, OSTIX and RSIVX. It appears that interest rates will be higher over the next few years so I do have to take that into consideration with any bond funds. Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
  • VWINX: The one-fund lazy retirement income portfolio
    bee, I *rarely* buy anything recommended by another as I like to do my own research/monitoring. But I must admit, much of the reason I had a good 2012 (better than the stock indexes and junk bonds) was entirely your doing. You were a vocal proponent of PONDX back then and I jumped aboard as it met my all my trendiness criteria. It was one smooth ride. So a belated thanks!
    As to your question the research on various tight stops on non volatile trending markets, open end junk bond funds in particular, and then when to reenter was given to me by a fellow poster here. He and I have been e-mailing back and forth on junk bonds for many years now. So not to sound like an ..., but wouldn't feel right sharing the fruits of his labor without his permission. The basics is when a heretofore strongly trending non volatile market declines a certain percentage from any new highs, there is a greater percentage that decline will continue further. I recall that methodolgy got me out of PONDX in 2013 with most of the early 2013 gains intact and it eventually went on to much further declines before stabilizing and rising again, albeit never as high as my exit point..
  • 3 Reasons Investors Still Buy Actively-Managed Funds
    Mark makes a very good point. Maybe I'm wrong, but my sense is we have very few "stay-put" type investors posting on this board. There's one notable exception (And I'd rather not go there, thank you.)
    Don't mean to suggest we're a bunch of highly active market timers. That I don't know. On the other hand, I doubt many here have held mostly the same funds year-in and year-out for 15 - 25 years or longer without at least varying the allocations to each. I'll confess I haven't.
  • A Little-Known Bond Vehicle For When Interest Rates Rise
    Thanks for posting this Ted. I had been considering similar items for my sleeve of holdings which account for 4 years of spending dollars heading into retirement. I had previously considered short terms bond funds, or market neutral funds like MERFX. Your post is handy as it provides some additional options for this purpose.
    Press
  • How Dimensional Fund Advisors Really Earn Better Returns
    In a NUTSHELL:
    For some asset classes, such as large US Stocks, DFA doesn’t seem to make much of a difference. DFA’s large company fund (DFUSX) is very similar to Vanguard’s 500 fund (VFIAX), although it charges a slightly higher expense ratio (10 basis points vs 5 for the Vanguard fund). The performance difference? According to Morningstar, DFUSX has had an average annual return (arithmetic) of 7.96% per year for the last ten years, compared to 7.94% per year for the Vanguard fund. Am I going to pay 0.37%, much less 1% to get DFA access to that fund? No way. For other asset classes, however, the difference is larger.
  • 3 Reasons Investors Still Buy Actively-Managed Funds
    FYI: As has been widely reported in the financial media, 2014 was one of the worst years in recent memory for active managers.
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/3-reasons-investors-still-buy-actively-managed-funds-2015-05-01/print
  • Reminiscences of Marty Zweig: What I Learned From a Market Great: Liz Ann Sonders
    FYI: On February 18, while on vacation, I received a shocking phone call. My first mentor and boss, Wall Street icon Marty Zweig, had passed away. I've been extremely blessed throughout my 27-year career to work with some of the most transformative and legendary folks in the business. Marty was one.
    I worked for him (and his partner at Avatar Associates, Ned Babbitt) for 13 years, starting in 1986 after I graduated from college. Another would be Louis Rukeyser, with whom Marty and I shared the "stage" on Wall Street Week for many years as regular panelists. And of course, I've had the great thrill of working for Chuck Schwab since 2000. It doesn't get any better than learning from these legends over the past 27 years.
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/nn/articles/Reminiscences-of-Marty-Zweig-What-I-Learned-From-a-Market-Great
  • Recap: The 2015 Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting
    FYI: .–Warren Buffett‘s “Woodstock for Capitalists”, the annual meeting of his Berkshire Hathaway Inc., celebrated a major milestone this year: Mr. Buffett has now been at the helm of the conglomerate for 50 years.
    Mr. Buffett played host to roughly 40,000 people at the company’s annual meeting Saturday, an event that swells the population of Mr. Buffett’s hometown by nearly 10% each year. Over the hours and hours of question-and-answer that are the hallmark of the meeting, Mr. Buffett and his vice chairman, Charlie Munger, fielded questions about investing and markets, Berkshire’s relationship with 3G Capital and its investments in International Business Machines Corp. and Coca-Cola Co.
    MoneyBeat live-blogged the all-day event from Mr. Buffett’s first sip of cherry Coke to his last bite of See’s candy. Here’s how it all went down
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/05/02/live-analysis-the-2015-berkshire-hathaway-annual-meeting/tab/print/
  • Will Japan Funds Keep Going, Or Just Disappoint Again?
    FYI: How much longer can the sun shine on Japan's stock market?
    The Tokyo Stock Exchange has been among the world's hottest for years and the Nikkei 225 index recently topped the 20,000 level for the first time since 2000. Usually when an investment is doing that well, euphoria ensues. But Japanese stocks have a long history of disappointing investors. The reputation is so strong that veteran managers say they're still encountering skepticism
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/print?id=30708617
  • VWINX: The one-fund lazy retirement income portfolio
    Deleted post and graph. Speaking of one-fund lazy retirement portfolios, I tried to compare the two conservative five star funds listed here with my beloved junk bond funds over the past 10/15 years. I used one of my favorite five star junk bond funds and a present holding PHYTX. It was no contest with PHYTX the clear winner. But then I am biased! Junk bond funds are notable for their trend persistency and low volatility making them amenable to various trading methodologies using tight stops. Yes, I know 2008 was a disaster but the tight stop methodology would have kept you out of harm's way.
  • the May issue is up
    @Charles I am revising the May 2 post I made yesterday during my daily MFO visit. It was made shortly before I left on a cross country plane ride and it didn't really make my point. Here is a second effort.
    The fund family rankings are a great idea! Its important to point the way towards fund families that are successful at helping mutual fund investors achieve their long term goals.
    The Turner Investment screen prints you posted above make sense to me. My concern still relates to the proposed “Fund Family Score Card”. The intended audience is not clear to me. That audience might be significantly broader than the audience that routinely views the detailed screens. If so, then some sort of additional data or some kind of qualifying statement in the main body of the score card might be warranted.
    Here are my reasons for continuing to think that way. Per my original example, I am looking again at the Turner Investment data. Here are the number of funds that have beaten their respective category averages over various time periods:
    Life time: 5 of 6. (This is the basis of the Top Fund Family ranking.) Those funds are:
    TSCEX +2.1, Originated in 1994
    TMGFX +1.5, Originated in 1996
    TMCGX +9.5, Originated in 1998
    TSPEX +2.8, Originated in 2009
    TMSCX +10.0, Originated in 2011
    Here is out performance data based on the other relevant MultiSearch time periods:
    Full Cycle 4 (09/00 to 10/07): 1 of 3 (TMCGX +7.7) originated in 1998
    Full Cycle 5 (11/07 to 03/15: 0 of 3
    Last 20 years: 1 of 1 (TSCEX +1.6) originated in 1994
    Last 10 years: 1 of 3 (TSCEX +0.2) originated in 1994
    Last 5 years: 1 of 4 (TSPEX +2.1) originated in 2009
    Last 3 years: 2 of 6 (TMSCX +14.4, TSPEX +2.4) originated in 2011
    Lifetime fund out performance appears in all cases to be based on an initial surge of out performance by each fund. Is this characteristic representative of a "superior" fund family that has been around for over two decades? (I realize the jury is still out on TSPEX and TMSCX.)
    Part of this thought circles back to my original comment about Fund Turnover (survivor-bias). I am remembering back to the turn of the century and new Turner funds like TTPOX, TGTFX, TBTBX, and TIWCX. None of those funds are still around. (I wondered if enough long-term survivor-bias data was available to flesh out this characteristic.) But, this issue does relate to the characteristics of a superior fund family.
    That's enough....The fund family ranking will definitely be a plus as far as I am concerned!
  • VWINX: The one-fund lazy retirement income portfolio
    Well, since 1997, if you go by years per M*, each has outperformed the other exactly half the time (also GLRBX ytd if anyone cares about shorter-term). (True, I shoulda looked all the way back to 1991.) I also was weighting its superior dip performance, as that is the sort of reason causing people to bail. More important to some are the facts that GLRBX is like a tenth the size, has a lower min, more exposure to midcaps (~15% the average market cap size of VWINX), and less foreign. VWINX is this more often 40/60 bond fund that balances out using megacaps, that's all; look at its imbalanced stock portfolio against its own benchmarks. Surprising no one went under the hood.
    Perhaps not truly comparable, in other words, and there is no "better choice"; it all depends on what you want. I like somewhat smaller-company stocks, per history, hence my statement. A good portfolio would happily hold lots of both, as there is little overlap.
  • At Westwood Income Opportunity, A Manager Goes For Growth
    @Ted Thanks for the link. I have owned WHGIX for about 2 years now. So, I was interested to read the interview with Mark Freeman. His thinking still makes sense to me.
    A few more thoughts....The search tool at this site brought WHGIX to my attention. The fund uses a multi-team approach to select candidates for investment. Cash is currently the biggest holding at 20.3% as of 3/31. There is an enlargeable image in the lower right hand portion of this link that shows how the investment mix has varied since the inception of the fund:
    westwoodfunds.com/funds/income-opportunity.aspx
  • VWINX: The one-fund lazy retirement income portfolio
    Great fund, but why anyone would take it over GLRBX is baffling.
    To unbaffle your thoughts, over the last 23 years VWINX (portfolio 2) out performs GLRBX (portfolio 1) by almost all metrics and it did this with a razor thin expense ratio (.17%) compared to GLRBX's 1%.
    GLRBX is a great choice if you can't access VWINX, just not as great.
    In the chart below (created at this website) I wrote:
    "Though GLRBX lost less (-6.19% vs -9.78%) compared to VWINX and had a lower drawn down (-17.48% vs -18.82%) VWINX recovered in half the time compared for how long it took GLRBX." Recovery time is what help most investor sleep well at night.
    Click on the image to enlarge and see details better:
    image
  • Will Primecap Fund managers increase their non-US investments?
    rmt,
    Over the last 8 years anchoring POAGX with funds like WHOSX and PONDX would have smoothed out a portfolio's volatility. Not sure if these two funds will serve a similar purpose in a raising rate environment, but they should out perform when markets temporarily correct for other reasons.
    Here's the two portfolios suggestions:
    image
    And here's the performance over the last 8 years:
    image
    Also, NSEIX seems like a pretty good US-centrric value companion to POAGX "growthiness", though I would argue selecting a set of "growth stocks at the right price" is another value metric in my book.
    I like your idea of a Primecap global growth fund.
    MDISX has performed well globally (world allocation fund).
    Love to hear from others in this space.
  • Checking the Temperature of Columbia Thermostat Fund = COTZX
    The managers see4m to have assumed the market would always be in a moderately large trading range. The allocation formula is many years old and since the $+P has gone up considerably in the last 5 years the allocation is mostly bonds.I would call it a market timing fund not a conservative allocation fund. If you don't agree with their formula you can wait for a different time to invest in it .
  • the May issue is up
    @David_Snowball "I also noticed the Turner anomaly, it sometimes seems more like a ship of the damned than a luxury liner. I have no doubt that the ranking is consistent with the data. The only question is whether the data is consistent with reality. Off to the college! "
    A couple of thoughts occurred to me as I was taking a beach walk along the Florida gulf coast this morning (a much simplified version of heading off to the college!). Something like these ideas might help make the rankings easier to interpret:
    1. Include a second "APR vs Peer %/yr" column next to the first one to present data restricted to only the funds within each fund family that have been in existence long enough to have gone through the most recent full market cycle (or 10 years if the cycle lasts longer than 10 years). This would help to demonstrate if there reason to think there might be some level of persistence to a fund family's returns.
    2. Include a Fund Turnover Statistic that ranks fund families based on the amount of churn there is in their portfolios of funds. Some fund families market funds that focus on themes that are hot within a particular market cycle. Others only market funds that have good prospects of enduring across multiple market cycles. A statistic that helps flesh out this distinction might be useful. This statistic might also shed light on which fund families have proven unable to sustain funds that should have endured through multiple market cycles.
  • Mutual Fund/ETF Research Newsletter ... "With the markets overvalued, here's what to do."
    Hi davidrmoran,
    Thank you for making comment on my post.
    At first brush, I'd trend to agree with you; but, the message in the newsletter goes beyond your comment. Here is what the newsletter has to say on how to pick a fund.
    'Which Funds Should Be Considered "Undervalued?"
    OK, I know what your next question is going to be. How exactly can one recognize funds that are made up of stocks that are predominantly undervalued?
    First an admonition: As implied above, the term "undervalued" is a relative one and and even "experts" don't agree on how to assess it. And, the term shouldn't suggest or imply that big gains will lie immediately ahead, even when correctly assessed. (Many experts rely on a statistic called the P/E ratio, or price divided by earnings, to define abnormally high or low valuation; unfortunately, many stocks, and stock funds, with relatively low P/E's will continue to underperform, while, conversely, funds with extremely high P/E's can continue climbing even for years. Therefore, even though the statistic for any fund is readily available, such as on sites such as morningstar.com, I wouldn't recommend paying that much attention to it.)
    Of course, the opposite is also true. What is "overvalued" isn't always clear either and such funds don't always immediately start to underperform (although my research suggests that when measured as I will present below, they most likely will within a year or two). In fact, I have been saying that most types of funds have been overvalued since late Oct. 2013. Since then, most of these funds have continued to move ahead, although they appear to have slowed down somewhat since the start of this year.
    Thus, while the concepts of over/undervaluation are frequently debated by the experts, and there is no absolute "yardstick," I will now give you a guideline that I use to help shape my own investment decisions.
    Suppose you own a fund that has returned cumulatively in excess of more than 25% of what might have expected over the past few years. More specifically, stocks, on average, tend to return 9 to 10% a year. For simplicity, let's call that a cumulative return of 50% over 5 years. So if your fund returns 25% more than that, it would return 75% over 5 years. This, then, comes out to an average return of 15% a year.
    Unlike a fund, when you own an individual stock, it can literally go to the moon. Once again, take Apple stock. Over the last 5 years, it has returned about 150%, or 30% per year. But over the last 10 years, it did even better - 38% a year, or 380% cumulatively. In other words, there may be nearly no limit to how far up any one stock might go. Of course, a badly performing stock might continue underperforming, inflicting huge losses, perhaps until the company goes out of business or goes bankrupt. Enron stock, a darling of Wall Street from 1996 to 2001, fell from over $90 per share to less than $1 before becoming totally worthless.
    But with a mutual fund/ETF, the ride should be smoother since the fund hopefully invests in many, many stocks, lessening the impact of any one extreme success or failure. Since we can not know the future for sure, let's just say while, on average, 50% total gains over 5 years for a fund are close to the normal, 75% gains or more are approaching rarified air. A fund with the former result might be considered to have a "fair" or appropriate valuation; one with the latter is probably "overvalued," or approaching what I would consider being overvalued in the near future.
    My research has shown that using such a 15% "yardstick," stretched out over time, can be a useful marker of likely overvaluation. Once most funds surpass it based on a 5 year period, one is typically better off investing at least some portion of a portfolio elsewhere, specifically in one or more funds that instead appear "undervalued."
    We might think of an "undervalued" category or specific fund as one where its stocks have performed significantly worse than an annualized return of 9-10%. In fact, if the average fund in its category is currently showing only a 5% annualized return over the last 5 years, it may be underperforming an "average" performing fund by 25% cumulatively and an overvalued fund by at least 50% cumulatively (75% minus 25%).
    For the short term, the "overvalued" fund, although probably not recognized as such by most investors, might appear the wiser choice. But for the longer term, the undervalued fund would appear to have much more potential for future gains.'
    Thanks again for your comment. As can be gained for reading the above, I think you'll now agree that the newsletter's message goes well beyond just picking a value fund.
    I wish all ... "Good Investing."
    Old_Skeet