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  • VWINX: The one-fund lazy retirement income portfolio
    its managers have been on the job only since right before the crash, so some might prefer GLRBX based on tenure alone. But again, best to own both.
    Here's a chart with performance since the crash (click on image to view more clearly):
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  • VWINX: The one-fund lazy retirement income portfolio
    A couple of posters have pinged me to add that they did not know of this fund and M* has not done deep reporting, so below are some news/interview items, two of them dated a bit, and I think the fees were reported too high.
    http://online.barrons.com/articles/SB50001424053111903715504577305581580259926
    http://online.barrons.com/articles/SB50001424052702304539504576532400452721090
    more recent and pertinent, one supposes:
    http://online.barrons.com/articles/SB50001424127887324616904580105840921790752
    I found the fund and family long ago because, being from the Midwest, I was always pining to get into MAPOX but could not do so via Fido or BoA portals. GLRBX seems pretty widely available.
    @dicksonL, yes, thanks, a brief version of what I was trying to point out.
    Another delta is that VWINX, however steady and better-than-indexlike it is and has been, its managers have been on the job only since right before the crash, so some might prefer GLRBX based on tenure alone. But again, best to own both.
    @bee:
    >> the one area where GLRBX shines far and above is if it's held in a taxable account.
    Did not even mention that.
    As to your and Sven's other assertions, see the subsequent discussion. I'm not baffled about either one myself. Just that if you had to choose only one and go with it for long holding, the bond-heavy megacap would not be the preferred choice imo. But the differences are pretty small.
  • VWINX: The one-fund lazy retirement income portfolio
    @ MFO Members:
    Total Return: GLRBX Is Winner
    1wk. 13wk. YTD 1yr. 3yr. 5yr. 10 yr.
    GLRBX James Adv:Bal GR;Retail -0.86% 2.37% 2.95% 7.12% 8.89% 9.01% 7.47%
    VWINX Vanguard Wellesley;Inv -0.50% 1.03% 1.78% 5.79% 8.04% 8.97% 7.31%
  • the May issue is up
    Good stuff davfor.
    Granted, the lifetime metric gives the family the benefit of doubt and for me serves as an initial look.
    For the family data, that may be good enough.
    We have the full, up, and down cylce evaluation windows, plus the fixed year windows for all fund metrics. So, easy to punch in say "Tuner", pull up the funds and look at the different time periods.
    Here's summary of the 6 funds in the family...lifetime eval window:
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    Turner's alternative funds are rather young but one has very strong over-performance despite sick fees. Emerging Growth has amazing long-term performance, but most of it came during the late '90s. It outperformed in the full cycle from 200009 to 200710, but under-performed somewhat in current cycle since 200711.
    Here's the data for last two cycles:
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    In any case, easy to see these three are volatile funds.
    The situation is not unlike CGM...all three Heebner funds have great life time records, but most of out-performance was last decade.
    Lifetime, great...
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    Current cycle, pretty bad...
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    Similar situation for Berkowitz's Fairholme, rough going near term...
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    I suppose we could do fund family ranks for all the different time periods, just not sure it would add anything that is not already available in the fund specific screens.
    Honestly, my biggest reservation with the score card is impact of survivor-bias for families with a relatively small number of funds. Bad fund? Close it. And the family score goes up overnight. We just don't have dead/merged funds in our database...not yet anyway. Still think the scorecard is insightful though.
  • VWINX: The one-fund lazy retirement income portfolio
    Well, since 1997, if you go by years per M*, each has outperformed the other exactly half the time (also GLRBX ytd if anyone cares about shorter-term). (True, I shoulda looked all the way back to 1991.) I also was weighting its superior dip performance, as that is the sort of reason causing people to bail. More important to some are the facts that GLRBX is like a tenth the size, has a lower min, more exposure to midcaps (~15% the average market cap size of VWINX), and less foreign. VWINX is this more often 40/60 bond fund that balances out using megacaps, that's all; look at its imbalanced stock portfolio against its own benchmarks. Surprising no one went under the hood.
    Perhaps not truly comparable, in other words, and there is no "better choice"; it all depends on what you want. I like somewhat smaller-company stocks, per history, hence my statement. A good portfolio would happily hold lots of both, as there is little overlap.
  • VWINX: The one-fund lazy retirement income portfolio
    Great fund, but why anyone would take it over GLRBX is baffling.
    To unbaffle your thoughts, over the last 23 years VWINX (portfolio 2) out performs GLRBX (portfolio 1) by almost all metrics and it did this with a razor thin expense ratio (.17%) compared to GLRBX's 1%.
    GLRBX is a great choice if you can't access VWINX, just not as great.
    In the chart below (created at this website) I wrote:
    "Though GLRBX lost less (-6.19% vs -9.78%) compared to VWINX and had a lower drawn down (-17.48% vs -18.82%) VWINX recovered in half the time compared for how long it took GLRBX." Recovery time is what help most investor sleep well at night.
    Click on the image to enlarge and see details better:
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  • VWINX: The one-fund lazy retirement income portfolio
    dr: VWINX looks less volatile on the downside to me. expenses are much less. 3 year record, GLRBX is slightly ahead. 5 year record, dead even. the one area where GLRBX shines far and above is if it's held in a taxable account.
  • the May issue is up
    Though ya wouldn't expect it, the high cash position phenomenon is not exclusive to stock funds.
    RNDLX= 26% cash (just noticed last night; wondered why the monthly dvd had been a bit depressed as of late; well, wonder no more)
    http://www.rivernorth.com/mutual-funds/rnsix-rndlx
    BERIX= 30=35% MMkt and cash reserves, since beginning of 2015 (the highest in a decade)
    http://www.theberwynfunds.com/biffacts.pdf
  • Will Primecap Fund managers increase their non-US investments?
    rmt,
    Over the last 8 years anchoring POAGX with funds like WHOSX and PONDX would have smoothed out a portfolio's volatility. Not sure if these two funds will serve a similar purpose in a raising rate environment, but they should out perform when markets temporarily correct for other reasons.
    Here's the two portfolios suggestions:
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    And here's the performance over the last 8 years:
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    Also, NSEIX seems like a pretty good US-centrric value companion to POAGX "growthiness", though I would argue selecting a set of "growth stocks at the right price" is another value metric in my book.
    I like your idea of a Primecap global growth fund.
    MDISX has performed well globally (world allocation fund).
    Love to hear from others in this space.
  • Checking the Temperature of Columbia Thermostat Fund = COTZX
    The managers see4m to have assumed the market would always be in a moderately large trading range. The allocation formula is many years old and since the $+P has gone up considerably in the last 5 years the allocation is mostly bonds.I would call it a market timing fund not a conservative allocation fund. If you don't agree with their formula you can wait for a different time to invest in it .
  • the May issue is up
    Errata: "which might have come at the cost of a few minor typos than usual" should have read "which might have come at the cost of a few more minor typos than usual" .
    David, that's just too funny- a typo in the typo apology!
    :) Regards- OJ
  • VWINX: The one-fund lazy retirement income portfolio
    From Article:
    "Through our own independent research and due diligence as a risk manager, I have found that one of the best single funds to own for retirees seeking a modest income stream and a diversified exposure to the equity and fixed-income markets is the Vanguard Wellesley Income Fund. I want to highlight this fund because I think it makes sense as both a portfolio building block, and as a stand-alone single-fund strategy."
    the-one-fund-lazy-retirement-income-portfolio
  • The last two days....
    Ecolab holding up reasonably well, considering a so-so quarter and the market being the way it is. The company seeing difficulty in their energy business, but their other hygiene/sanitary businesses are doing well and their water business is seeing benefit from the situation in California. Dividend aristocrat and something I'd consider adding to. An enjoyably boring business that serves important needs and is the largest in the industry. Bill Gates owns a large amount of the company.
    Blackstone holding up okay, awaiting the spin-off later this year.
    Intercontinental Exchange doing okay after CME reported good earnings.
    V/MA holding up okay. Mastercard with good earnings, Visa with okay earnings.
    Biotech bouncing after Gilead's ridiculous number yesterday.
    Brookfield Property (BPY) disappointing lately, but enormous real estate empire that still trades under book and a 5 p/e. I'll continue to collect dividends.
    One real estate play that continues to hold up well for me is one that doesn't offer dividends - Howard Hughes (HHC), but given that company's exposure to oil/Houston (which isn't enormous, but nevertheless it has been a factor), the move higher in oil lately seems to have helped.
  • Should You Buy Target-Date Funds?
    FYI: The author generally doesn't like the target-date funds strategy, though, because it’s “one-size-fits-all.” Target-date funds don’t speak to individual risk tolerance. The very fact that they are mechanical means that more savvy investors may miss out on opportunities to re-allocate capital depending on certain market or sector conditions.
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://investorplace.com/2015/04/target-date-mutual-funds/print
  • Mutual Fund/ETF Research Newsletter ... "With the markets overvalued, here's what to do."
    Hi davidrmoran,
    Thank you for making comment on my post.
    At first brush, I'd trend to agree with you; but, the message in the newsletter goes beyond your comment. Here is what the newsletter has to say on how to pick a fund.
    'Which Funds Should Be Considered "Undervalued?"
    OK, I know what your next question is going to be. How exactly can one recognize funds that are made up of stocks that are predominantly undervalued?
    First an admonition: As implied above, the term "undervalued" is a relative one and and even "experts" don't agree on how to assess it. And, the term shouldn't suggest or imply that big gains will lie immediately ahead, even when correctly assessed. (Many experts rely on a statistic called the P/E ratio, or price divided by earnings, to define abnormally high or low valuation; unfortunately, many stocks, and stock funds, with relatively low P/E's will continue to underperform, while, conversely, funds with extremely high P/E's can continue climbing even for years. Therefore, even though the statistic for any fund is readily available, such as on sites such as morningstar.com, I wouldn't recommend paying that much attention to it.)
    Of course, the opposite is also true. What is "overvalued" isn't always clear either and such funds don't always immediately start to underperform (although my research suggests that when measured as I will present below, they most likely will within a year or two). In fact, I have been saying that most types of funds have been overvalued since late Oct. 2013. Since then, most of these funds have continued to move ahead, although they appear to have slowed down somewhat since the start of this year.
    Thus, while the concepts of over/undervaluation are frequently debated by the experts, and there is no absolute "yardstick," I will now give you a guideline that I use to help shape my own investment decisions.
    Suppose you own a fund that has returned cumulatively in excess of more than 25% of what might have expected over the past few years. More specifically, stocks, on average, tend to return 9 to 10% a year. For simplicity, let's call that a cumulative return of 50% over 5 years. So if your fund returns 25% more than that, it would return 75% over 5 years. This, then, comes out to an average return of 15% a year.
    Unlike a fund, when you own an individual stock, it can literally go to the moon. Once again, take Apple stock. Over the last 5 years, it has returned about 150%, or 30% per year. But over the last 10 years, it did even better - 38% a year, or 380% cumulatively. In other words, there may be nearly no limit to how far up any one stock might go. Of course, a badly performing stock might continue underperforming, inflicting huge losses, perhaps until the company goes out of business or goes bankrupt. Enron stock, a darling of Wall Street from 1996 to 2001, fell from over $90 per share to less than $1 before becoming totally worthless.
    But with a mutual fund/ETF, the ride should be smoother since the fund hopefully invests in many, many stocks, lessening the impact of any one extreme success or failure. Since we can not know the future for sure, let's just say while, on average, 50% total gains over 5 years for a fund are close to the normal, 75% gains or more are approaching rarified air. A fund with the former result might be considered to have a "fair" or appropriate valuation; one with the latter is probably "overvalued," or approaching what I would consider being overvalued in the near future.
    My research has shown that using such a 15% "yardstick," stretched out over time, can be a useful marker of likely overvaluation. Once most funds surpass it based on a 5 year period, one is typically better off investing at least some portion of a portfolio elsewhere, specifically in one or more funds that instead appear "undervalued."
    We might think of an "undervalued" category or specific fund as one where its stocks have performed significantly worse than an annualized return of 9-10%. In fact, if the average fund in its category is currently showing only a 5% annualized return over the last 5 years, it may be underperforming an "average" performing fund by 25% cumulatively and an overvalued fund by at least 50% cumulatively (75% minus 25%).
    For the short term, the "overvalued" fund, although probably not recognized as such by most investors, might appear the wiser choice. But for the longer term, the undervalued fund would appear to have much more potential for future gains.'
    Thanks again for your comment. As can be gained for reading the above, I think you'll now agree that the newsletter's message goes well beyond just picking a value fund.
    I wish all ... "Good Investing."
    Old_Skeet
  • Checking the Temperature of Columbia Thermostat Fund = COTZX
    If I were to purchase this fund today I'd be putting it in my income sleeve in the income area of my portfolio based upon its current allocation to fixed income. I could have some months ago when it was carrying a heavier allocation to equities placed it within the domestic hybrid sleeve within the growth & income area of my portfolio ... and, when it was seventy percent, or better, equity I may have placed it within the growth area of my portfolio, specialty sleeve.
    Indeed, it is a fund with a sliding equity allocation that adjust to the valuation of the S&P 500 Index.
    Although, I have watched and studied this fund in the past it is not a fund that I am currently likely to buy.
    Old_Skeet
  • Let's see if Gundlach gets this right
    Jeffrey Gundlach is not afraid to make big bets. I think being bold is one of his good attributes.
    In addition to his stake in PR municipal bonds, he recently agreed with Bill Gross in shorting the German bond, but he wants to amp it up 100 times:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-28/gundlach-considers-100-times-levered-wager-against-german-bonds
  • Let's see if Gundlach gets this right
    I would never second guess Jeff Gundlach or for that matter Dan Ivansyn. Gundlach took out a small position in Puerto Rico munis and then doubled down recently. Time will tell.
    http://blogs.barrons.com/incomeinvesting/2015/04/30/puerto-ricos-bonds-reach-new-low/?mod=BOL_hp_blog_ii