Sequoia is now a three-star fund Do you have a reason to believe that M* does not calculate star ratings periodically on an automatic schedule (i.e. without discretion)?
Here are two statements from M* that the calculations are done monthly:
(In response to: " how often/when the star ratings are updated?") "Fund star ratings are calculated monthly." Edgars Vimba (Morningstar).
http://socialize.morningstar.com/NewSocialize/forums/t/274950.aspx (1/19/2011)
"So, any fund can get [a star rating]. We update it monthly" Russ Kinnel (Morningstar).
http://www.morningstar.com/cover/videocenter.aspx?id=662384 (8/21/14)
Regarding delay in publishing monthly figures, I haven't found a US statement, but this Australian M* statement is somewhat consistent with what you're seeing here:
"How Often are Morningstar Ratings (Star Ratings) Updated?
"Morningstar Ratings (Star Ratings) are recalculated and republished in the second week of each month, at the same time as performance figures. "
http://www.morningstar.com.au/Funds/FundsFaq#FFAQ14As far as M* delaying data analysis is concerned, some of their methodology does build in lags. For example, when they categorize a fund, the assigned category does not necessarily reflect the current portfolio. That's done essentially for the second reason you stated - that transitory shifts may be just that and not reflect the overall character of the fund. Even so, there is a well-defined, methodically followed process; it's just that it includes some hysteresis.
Sequoia is now a three-star fund msf said:
That you (and likely the rest of the investing world) expect Valeant to pull Sequoia's performance down further has no effect on the M* star rating.
Of course suppositions about the future performance of Valeant's common would not go into current star ratings. However, today's performance is in the books and is now
past performance, as is its effect on SEQUX's NAV. And the performance of Valeant's common between its plunge on Oct 21 and today is also
past performance, as is its effect on SEQUX's NAV during this time, as is its effect on SEQUX's performance numbers, enough to jar even its 3 and
5 yr TR figures. Doing the math and comparing those adjusted numbers to its peer group, my interpretation is that M* has now determined that SEQUX is a 3-star fund,
based on past performance.
I was suggesting, with my dead man walking comment, that if M* had any reluctance to defer the star rating downgrade (1) because of, or as a courtesy to, SEQUX's fine historical record and management, and/or (2) because good news re. Valeant might emerge any day which would turn around its stock price in a jiffy, then today's "second leg down" may have relieved them of their reluctance to make the move. They simply couldn't wait any longer, because there was no longer reason to do so--- their star rating of SEQUX had to reflect reality, in the here and now.
Per Morningstar today = RPHYX ( RiverPark Short Term HY Star Rating reduced to 1star. !! In our rating system, RPHYX remains a top quintile fund based on risk adjusted return and a Great Owl ...
Sequoia is now a three-star fund Why people are surprised with the change in stars of the fund ? Star rating is purely on mechanical calculations based on the risk-adjusted performance of the funds and a reflection of their aggregate past record (3, 5 and 10 years) with more weightage long term record than short. Periodically star ratings are caluculated every year and I am not sure how frequently they do that and publish the new start ratings of the funds.
If M* mentioned this fund is under review, that is for their qualitative rating (Gold, Silver, Bronze, etc.) based on their Analst analysis of the fund
Sequoia is now a three-star fund
And, in a freakish development, the fund with the second-largest stake in Valeant is up 16.5% YTD. That's Tanaka Growth (TGFRX), with an 11% Valeant position.
David
TGFRX benefited by its position in FING B Fingerprint Cards, up 123% over the past 3 months and up 1240% YTD.
Kevin
November is up
Warren Buffett’s Way To Invest For Retirement: 90/10 Allocation Yeah, once I get my 1st $ 1 BILLION I will consider a 90/10 allocation...!
I have in my possession an old (~1960s era) edition of "The Intelligent Investor", written by Buffett's one-time mentor, Ben Graham. In it, he discusses the topic of asset allocation. He wisely admitted that there is no optimum allocation advice for all investors, but as a general guideline that a 2-asset (equities, US Treasurys) portfolio should generally contain no more equities than 75% and no less than 25% for most investors. Graham described that investors younger and more risk-tolerant might have as much (but no more) than 75% equities; older and less risk-tolerant investors should still have at least 25% equities. Basically any extreme allocation outside the 75/25 to 25/75 was not recommended.
Graham's counsel always seemed to me to be simple -- and thus easy for an individual to implement-- and wise.
(Several years ago, I paged through a modern edition of Graham's book in a Barnes & Noble, looking for that passage, but it seems to have been posthumously excised, perhaps replaced by "newer, enlightened" thinking during the great 1990's bull market).
An aside: I doubt Graham would have much positive to say regarding the current excitement with "alternative strategies" -- especially given the expense ratios in vehicles available to retail investors.
Sequoia is now a three-star fund Ya know, Charles adds some clarity with the data. Recent performance hasn't been so hotsy-totsy. Add to that the (reasonable) supposition that their huge Valeant holding is a dead man walking, do the math, and M* pretty much had to knock off some stars. A cautionary tale for those who believe that concentrated MFs and high active share numbers hold to the virtuous path, in and of themselves. When one goes with concentration anywhere inside the portfolio, I think it's important to mine a little deeper on the screening before making choices, and to look at other stats we rarely talk about on the Board:
tracking error and information ratio.
[I think it was
@MJG who made this point in a comment over a year ago]
Anyone know how those figures have moved for SEQUX, over the past
5 years?
Sequoia is now a three-star fund SEQUX rates a 1 across the past 1 and 3 year periods and a 3 across the past
5 year period ... through October in the MFO system, based on Martin risk adjusted return. Drawdown reached 21% in October. Since M*'s composite rating is based on 3,
5, and 10 year ratings, would not be surprised if it now scores 3 stars.
Below are its risk/return metrics across various periods. Note that through October anyway, it only lost 3% for year, despite its October collapse, and it remains a top quintile fund across the current full cycle, which began November 2007.
Sequoia is now a three-star fund In my inbox today
11/04/2015
MFLDX: MainStay Marketfield I
The Morningstar Star Rating for this fund has changed from 3 stars to 2 stars. For details, click here
RPHYX: RiverPark Short Term High Yield Retail
The Morningstar Star Rating for this fund has changed from 2 stars to 1 star. For details, click here
HHCAX: Highland Long/Short Healthcare A
The Morningstar Star Rating for this fund has changed from 4 stars to 3 stars. For details, click here
NEFZX: Loomis Sayles Strategic Income A
The Morningstar Star Rating for this fund has changed from 3 stars to 4 stars. For details, click here
MINDX: Matthews India Investor
The Morningstar Star Rating for this fund has changed from 3 stars to 4 stars. For details, click here
WSCVX: Walthausen Small Cap Value
The Morningstar Star Rating for this fund has changed from 4 stars to 3 stars. For details, click here
BRTNX: Bretton Fund
The Morningstar Star Rating for this fund has changed from 3 stars to 2 stars. For details, click here