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  • Scott Burns: Couch Potato Investing Trumps “Expert” Investing, Once More
    Hi Roy,
    Yes, my portfolio is a mix of passive and actively managed funds.
    About a decade ago my portfolio was 100 % actively managed funds and individual stocks. Today, I own zero stocks and roughly 35 % is with active products. My plan is to reduce that commitment to a floor of about 20 % as I continue to reduce my portfolio management schedule. I suspect this is a very common investment trajectory that is strongly influenced by an experience and learning process.
    Best Wishes.
  • Scott Burns: Couch Potato Investing Trumps “Expert” Investing, Once More
    Added VBINX to the moderate allocation funds I had listed instead of the couch potato portfolio as VBINX equity to fixed income ratio is ~60/40...closer to the other funds listed.
    As of 2/13/15, 1 yr, 3 yr, 5 yr, 10 yr returns
    VBINX 11.29, 11.66, 11.84, 7.12
    PRWCX 13.8, 14.99, 13.91, 8.91
    FPACX 7.77, 11.46, 10.86, 8.41
    VWELX 11.59, 12.7, 12.09, 8.06
    DODBX 9.97, 15.58, 13.36, 6.85
    OAKBX 10.19, 11.66, 10.29, 8.17
    MJG & rjb,
    Am I understanding correctly that both of you use a combination of actively managed funds as well as index funds? I've considered the merits of such a strategy in the past and am aware individuals such as Charles Schwab are advocates of the combination.
  • Scott Burns: Couch Potato Investing Trumps “Expert” Investing, Once More

    For investors who desire a moderate allocation portfolio who do not desire to put in the effort to identify funds that have a history of doing better.......
    Does investing in funds that have a history of doing better result in a portfolio that performs better in the future?
    John Bogle is fond of saying that "past is not prologue"
    And MJG has frequently posted about the lack of persistence in mutual fund performance, in other words, invest in a list of the best performers over the past 10 years, and it is not likely they will be in the list of best performers for the coming 10 years.
    https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?uid=50214&f=10&t=156573&start=0
    What Experts Say About "Past Performance"
    Frank Armstrong, financial author: "Rating services such as Morningstar's 'Star Awards' or the 'Forbes Honor Roll' attest to the futility of applying past performance to tomorrow."
    Barra Research: "There is no persistence of equity fund performance."
    Jack Bogle: "The biggest mistake investors make is looking backward at performance and thinking it’ll recur in the future."
    Burns Advisory tracked the performance of Morningstar's five-star rated stock funds beginning January 1, 1999. Of the 248 stock funds, just four still kept that rank after ten years.
    Wm. Bernstein, author of The Four Pillars of Investing: "For the 20 years from 1970 to 1989, the best performing stock assets were Japanese stocks, U.S. small stocks, and gold stocks. These turned out to be the worst performing assets over the next decade."
    Jack Brennan, former Vanguard CEO: "Fund ranking is meaningless when based primarily on past performance, as most are."
    Andrew Clarke, author: "By the time an investment reaches the top of the performance tables, there's a good chance that its run is over. The past is not prologue."
    Prof. John Cochrane, author: "Past performance has almost no information about future performance."
    S.T.Coleridge: "History is a lantern over the stern. It shows where you've been but not where you're going"
    Jonathan Clements, author & Wall Street Journal columnist: "Trying to pick market-beating investments is a loser's game."
    Eugene Fama, Nobel Laureate: "Our research on individual mutual funds says that it's impossible to identify true winners on a reliable basis, even if one ignores the costs that active funds impose on investors."
    Gensler & Bear, co-authors of The Great Mutual Fund Trap: "Of the fifty top-performing funds in 2000, not a single one appeared on the list in either 1999 or 1998."
    Ken Heebner's CGM Focus Fund was the top U.S. equity fund in 2007. In November 2009, it ranked in the bottom 1% of its category.
    Arthur Levitt, SEC Commissioner: "A mutual fund's past performance, which is the first feature that investors consider when choosing a fund, doesn't predict future performance."
    Burton Malkiel, author of the classic Random Walk Down Wall Street: "I have examined the lack of persistency in fund returns over periods from the 1960s through the early 2000s.--There is no persistency to good performance. It is as random as the market."
    Mercer Investment Consulting from a study of over 12,000 institutional managers: "Excellent recent performance not only doesn't guarantee future results but generally leads to under-performance in the subsequent period."
    After fifteen straight years beating the S&P 500 Index, Bill Miller's Legg Mason Value Trust (LMNVX) is now (1/25/2015) in the bottom 1% of its category for 10-year returns .
    Ron Ross, author of The Unbeatable Market: "Extensive studies by Davis, Brown & Groetzman, Ibbotson, Elton et al, all confirmed there is no significant persistance in mutual fund performance."
    Bill Schultheis, adviser and author of The Coffeehouse Investor: "Using past performance numbers as a method for choosing mutual funds is such a lousy idea that mutual fund companies are required by law to tell you it is a lousy idea."
    Standard & Poor's: "Over the 5 years ending September 2009, only 4.27% large-cap funds, 3.98% mid-cap funds, and 9.13% small-cap funds maintained a top-half ranking over the five consecutive 12-month periods."
    Larry Swedroe, author of many finance books: "The 44 Wall Street Fund was the top performing fund over the decade of the 1970s. It ranked as the single worst performing fund of the 1980's losing 73%. -- If you are going to use past performance to predict the future winners, the evidence is strong that your approach is highly likely to fail."
    David Swensen, Yale's Chief Investment Officer: "Chasing performance is the biggest mistake investors make. If anything, it is a perverse indicator."
    Tweddell & Pierce, co-authors of Winning With Mutual Funds: "Numerous studies have shown that using superior past performance is no better than random selection."
    Eric Tyson, author of Mutual Funds for Dummies (2010 edition): "Of the number one top-performing stock and bond funds in each of the last 20 years, a whopping 80% of them subsequently performed worse than the average fund in their peer group over the next 5 to 10 years! Some of these former #1 funds actually went on to become the worst-performing funds in their particular category."
    Value Line selected Garret Van Wagoner "Mutual fund Manager of the Year" in 1999. In August 2009, Van Wagoner's Emerging Growth Fund was the worst performing U.S. stock fund over the past 10 years.
    +++++++++++
    along with MJG, I also hold actively managed funds. But I think one thing that needs to be talked about much more is the tax implications (the drop in performance) of all the taxable distributions that actively managed funds tend to make.
    The Vanguard Total Stock Market Index fund and the Vanguard S&P 500 Index fund have not had a single capital gains distribution in more than 10 years. The only taxes you pay are on qualified dividends. This is a HUGE issue.
    In the typical performance figures we see before tax returns. Would be interesting to see after tax returns, given a specified tax bracket. As we all know, you only keep the after tax returns.
  • Scott Burns: Couch Potato Investing Trumps “Expert” Investing, Once More
    MJG,
    I appreciate your insightful post.
    The funds I chose for the comparison were based on the fact that I have held two of them for nearly a decade and in combination with the others listed comprise many of the most widely held no-load moderate allocation/balanced funds. I used moderate allocation funds because that is the category that Mr. Burns was comparing his Couch Potato portfolio too without accounting for the difference in equity allocation among the funds in that category which generally ranges from 50-70%.
    There are certainly many, many moderate allocation funds (probably a majority) that come up short verses the Couch Potato portfolio no matter their equity allocation. My main point was to show there are a number of actively managed moderate allocation funds that have both been around for many years and have consistently performed very well in comparison to the Couch Potato portfolio that utilizes low cost index funds.
    For investors who desire a moderate allocation portfolio who do not desire to put in the effort to identify funds that have a history of doing better or are not available through workplace retirement plans, a couch potato portfolio is certainly a good option...not arguing that in the least bit.
    Regards.
  • Scott Burns: Couch Potato Investing Trumps “Expert” Investing, Once More
    Hi Roy,
    Thanks for your brief list of current superior Balanced mutual funds. Fortunately, I have owned two of them for over two decades. Given my meager financial knowledge at my entry date, I was more lucky and less skilled when making those decisions.
    Your survey demonstrates that superior (defined as generating positive excess returns) active fund managers exist, although numerous global studies such as the semi-annual S&P Persistence Scorecards strongly conclude that the persistency numbers are fewer than would be statistically expected. There are exceptions for a subset of investment categories.
    Three issues came to mind while reviewing your list: (1) hindsight bias, (2) benchmark selection, and (3) data clutter. Allow me to expand on these elements sequentially.
    I’m sure the list you posted was not assembled randomly; it was generated with returns as the primary sorting mechanism. Investors typically use past returns as their number one ordering criterion. But that’s based solely on ephemeral past performance. It is an excellent candidate for a creeping Hindsight bias. The real test is how well this list performs over the next extended timeframe. Studies of this issue paint a dark picture.
    Many studies conclude that a returns approach is just too simple; Alpha (excess returns) persistence is an unreliable fund trait. Additional fund attributes such as low holdings turnover rate, low fee structure, long-term manager tenure, policy stability, and low Price/Earning ratio positions are likely to enhance the odds of positive Alpha retention.
    Your selected 50/50 mixed benchmark is reasonable, but not quite correct for the funds listed. The basic policy for my two funds in that list do not practice a 50/50 asset allocation; both those funds deploy a nominal 60/40 mix standard philosophy. Any meaningful comparison with an Index benchmark should properly reflect a precise asset allocation distribution.
    Finally, given that short-term outcomes are mostly noise that should be minimally weighted, comparisons of YTD, 1 year, and 3 year results are not as definitive as results recorded over the longer timeframes. The more recent data is clutter. I actually prefer 10 year and longer performance data since these are more likely to capture full cycle performance, both good years and bad years.
    Active fund managers are hardly ever made to pay for their investment engineering missteps. That’s too bad since that failure to account for mistakes goes against ancient traditions such as Hammurabi’s Code of Laws.
    In those ancient days, if a house wall failed or a dam broke and flooded a field, the builder was required to make restitution. In Roman times the builder of an arched, elevated roadway was required to stand under it when the first load crossed it. Today’s fund managers do not face that test of fire. That’s too bad.
    Thanks again for your submittal, but an investor must be constantly alert to the huge empirical mutual fund performance gap between past and future results. Always remember the strong regression-to-the-mean pull that exists in the investment marketplace.
    Best Wishes.
  • Latin America funds
    I gave up on PRLAX a buncha years ago. Andrew Foster at SFGIX seems to think highly of Valid Solucoes eServicos de Seguranca em Meios de Pagamento e Identificacao. It's in Brasil, best I can figure. It may no longer be a value-play. Over the past year, it's come from 28 up to over 40. (Is that dollars? It's a M* chart.) In SFGIX, it's the 3rd-largest holding. Morningstar dates the SFGIX portfolio to 31st December, 2014. In SFGIX, Latin America = 16.3% of holdings. SFGIX is up over the past year by +10.24%.
    I don't have any money in Latin America at all. I've just "cleaned house." In my own portf. I'm now holding 7% cash, 29% USA equity, 25% foreign, 37% bonds. "OTHER:" 2%. Japan, hardly a thing. 29% is in Asia. In US/Canada, the number is 54.25%. No more Matthews at all. Asia is covered with PRASX.
  • The Paradox Of Choice: Can You Have Too Many Investment Options?
    Hi Ted,
    Here Is It Is ... (was).
    The Mutual funds held along with cost basis and their respective performance data was removed on Feburary 18; however, the performance data remains for the portfolio as a whole plus I added a blurb about my sleeve system.
    Portfolio 2015 YTD (2.70%) .. 2014 (6.03%) .. 2013 (17.71%) .. 2012 (14.18)
    (Data From Morningstar as of 2/20/2015)
    Old Skeet's Portfolio Investment Sleeve Managment System
    Here is a brief description of my sleeve system which I organized to help better manage the investments that were held in five accounts. The accounts consist of a taxable account, a self directed ira account, a 401k account, a profit sharing account and a health savings account plus two bank accounts. With this I came up with four investment areas. They are a cash area which consist of two sleeves … an investment cash sleeve and a demand cash sleeve. The next area is the income area which consists of two sleeves. … a fixed income sleeve and a hybrid income sleeve. Then there is the growth & income area which has more risk associated with it than the income area and it consist of four sleeves … a global equity sleeve, a global hybrid sleeve, a domestic equity sleeve and a domestic hybrid sleeve. An finally there is the growth area, where the most risk in the portfolio is found and it consist of four sleeves … a global sleeve, a large/mid cap sleeve, a small/mid cap sleeve and a specialty sleeve. Each sleeve consists of three to six funds (in most cases) with the size and the weight of each sleeve can easily be adjusted, from time-to-time, by adjusting the number of funds and the amounts held. By using the sleeve system one can get a better picture of their overall investment picture and weightings by sleeve and area. In addition, I have found it beneficial to xray each fund, each sleeve, each investment area, and the portfolio as a whole monthly. Again, weightings can be adjusted form time-to-time as to how I might be reading the markets and wish to weight accordingly. All funds pay their distributions to the cash area of the portfolio with the exception being those in my 401k, profit sharing, and health savings accounts where reinvestment occurs. With the other accounts paying to cash the cash area builds cash within the portfolio to meet the portfolio’s monthly cash distribution needs with the residual being left for new investment opportunity. In addition, most all buy/sell trades settle from, or settle to, the cash area.
    Here is how I have my asset allocation currently broken out in percent ranges, by area. My neutral targets are cash 15%, income 30%, growth & income 35%, and growth 20%. I do an Instant Xray analysis of the portfolio monthly and make asset weighting adjustments as I feel warranted based upon my assesment of the market, my risk tolerance, cash needs, etc. Currently, I am neutral in the cash area, light in the income area and heavy in the equity area. I am thinking that once year end mutual fund capital gain distributions are paid out this will somewhat reduce the equity area and raise the cash area.
    Cash Area (Weighting Range 5% to 25%)
    Demand Cash Sleeve… (Cash Distribution Accrual & Future Investment Accrual)
    Investment Cash Sleeve … (Savings & Time Deposits)
    Income Area (Weighting Range 20% to 40%)
    Fixed Income Sleeve: EVBAX, LALDX, THIFX, LBNDX, NEFZX & TSIAX
    Hybrid Income Sleeve: AZNAX, CAPAX, FKINX, ISFAX, PASAX & PGBAX
    Growth & Income Area (Weighting Range 25% to 45%)
    Global Equity Sleeve: CWGIX, DEQAX, EADIX & PGUAX
    Global Hybrid Sleeve: CAIBX, IGPAX & TIBAX
    Domestic Equity Sleeve: ANCFX, CFLGX, FDSAX, INUTX, NBHAX, SPQAX & SVAAX
    Domestic Hybrid Sleeve: ABALX, AMECX, DDIAX, FRINX, HWIAX & LABFX
    Growth Area (Weighting Range 10% to 30%)
    Global Sleeve: ANWPX, PGROX, THOAX, DEMAX, NEWFX & THDAX
    Large/Mid Cap Sleeve: AGTHX, BWLAX, HWAAX, IACLX, SPECX & VADAX
    Small/Mid Cap Sleeve: AJVAX, IIVAX, PCVAX & PMDAX
    Specialty Sleeve: CCMAX, JCRAX, LPEFX, SGGDX & TOLLX
    Total number of mutual fund investment positions currently held equal fifty three.
    I wish all ... "Good Investing."
    Old_Skeet
  • The Paradox Of Choice: Can You Have Too Many Investment Options?
    @Old_Skeet FYI:
    Regards,
    Ted
    PFF:
    2013: -(0.90)%
    2014: 14.10%
    ER: .47%
    Two Year Average Return: 6.6%
    SPY:
    2013: 32.21%
    2014: 13.46%
    ER: .11%
    Two Year Average Return: 22.84%
    QQQ:
    2013: 36.63%
    2014: 19.18%
    ER: .26%
    Two Year Average Return: 27.91%
    PRHSX:
    2013: 51.40%
    2014: 31.94%
    ER: .79%
    Two Year Average Return: 41.67%
    FBTCX:
    2013: 62.44%
    2014: 33.35%
    ER: 1.83%
    Two Year Average Return: 47.90%
    Two Year Average Cost: 0.692%
    Two Year Average Return: 29.38%
  • Dodge & Cox Stock Fund (DODGX) at 50
    Reply to davidmoran:
    Ahh - Thanks for clarifying that your move out of DODGX was in 2003. So you missed their horrible period of '07-09 entirely. My first experience there was with the Income Fund beginning around 2005. That's what drew me to them. Mostly, the move into equities was during 2008 and early 2009. No complaints. Typical MO is to buy when things are falling.
    To clarify: I interpreted your use of "...its ensuing performance" earlier as a reference to the post-2008 period. That's what sparked whatever interest I had in your earlier comment. If we look only at that period (post March 9, 2009), I believe you will find DODGX has done quite well relative to GABEX & YACKX.
    It was during the dark years of 2007-08 for D&C that I recall all the vocal hand-wringing about how bloated they had become. It amazed me than that the hot money pouring in earlier had seemed oblivious to the issue. Hello?
    -
    I really do hate discussing returns & comparing fund performance - even though I understand that's the primary mission of a site called "Mutual Fund Observer." Very old-school. Came up in the 70s when most stayed with just one or two houses. So, spreading $$ around among 5 different families is a big leap. Am entirely comfortable limiting holdings to a few well established families that I feel I know well. The approach imposes a kind of discipline on me that I feel Is sorely needed.
  • The Paradox Of Choice: Can You Have Too Many Investment Options?
    @Old_Skeet If it wouldn't be too much trouble, I'd like to know what was the average return of your 52 funds in 2013 & 2014 along with the average cost.
    Regards,
    Ted
  • Has Gold Been A Good Investment Over The Long Term?
    Tampabay
    February 15 Flag
    I went to Publix today to trade Gold (currency) for Chips and Beer, you know what they said?.....
    Tampa (wish I was THERE today, Florida is warmer than most places this President's Day)..
    I am sorry your local grocery would not take gold coins. Tell you what though, I will be happy to exchange some chips and beer for your AU. All the chips you can personally carry for each 1 oz AU piece. Sound like a deal?
  • Latin America funds
    Unfortunately, there's really not much on the company (no SeekingAlpha articles or anything of the sort. It's largely limited to presentations on the company website or brief articles on Bloomberg and elsewhere. Additionally, it was a Wintergreen (WGRNX) holding for a while, not sure if it still is (Winters discussed Cielo in a "Wealthtrack" video interview not that long ago part of his play on emerging market consumers.)
    The interview is here:
    http://www.wintergreenfund.com/news/2013/0719-wealthtrack/
    The Cielo discussion starts at about 16 minutes in.
    I think my "issue" is that I'd like to invest a little bit in Brazil. My problem is that I like to do so in a way that I can get my head around. A fund can be volatile, too, but if I can have a thesis for something like Cielo (which goes along with the larger holdings that I have that are payment-related), it's easier for me to hold through the volatility than a fund that I don't have a real connection to/thesis for and may just dump if things get rocky (well, with how Brazil is now, rockier.)
    I definitely like the payments space (a lot) and Cielo has a very large share of the market in Brazil. Cielo also bought US company Merchant E-Solutions (https://www.merchante-solutions.com/about-us/overview/)
    Also, Cielo is an ADR where I can actually reinvest dividends. It varies by brokerage, but I've found that DRIP/reinvesting is usually no problem with US shares. When you get into ADRs or foreign ordinaries, then it becomes possible much less often and seems almost random as to what can/can't (possibly depends on which bank is the adr depositary?) Additionally, Cielo has also split twice in the last four years or so.
    Anyways, it's not something that I'd recommend for a conservative investor at all. It's my way of investing in Brazil in a manner that I can feel comfortable with longer-term. Most people COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLY (and again, they're certainly not wrong) feel more comfortable if they were to invest in something like Brazil investing in a fund. I'm weird though and feel more comfortable investing in one company whose business I can wrap my mind around and feel fairly strongly about long-term.
    For me, investing in the last few years or so has become, how can I structure my investments in a way that allows me to feel comfortable with a long-term view point and far less concerned about the day-to-day. The funny thing is, for most people, that would likely involve being less in single names and much more in funds. I feel more comfortable more in single names than funds because I feel strongly about various themes, sectors and companies. Plus, nearly everything I own pays a dividend.
    Again, I'm weird - most people would understandably feel more comfortable in funds and probably rightly so. Older and/or more conservative investors should go the fund route.
    Again, Ambev (ABEV) was the other name that I often thought about in terms of Brazil, but ultimately was more interested in the payments space. As I also noted above, Femsa (FMX) is something that I've thought about a lot, but I think the issue that I had with Femsa is its investment in Coca-Cola Femsa and the obesity problems in Mexico. There was a terrific hour-long presentation by a futurist in front of Femsa execs on Youtube and one of the major topics of discussion was in regards to health issues. (edited to add: found it)

    Mexico ultimately decided on a soda tax to combat one of the world's highest obesity rates (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/16/mexico-soda-tax-sugar-obesity-health) and it's apparently been successful.
    While the conglomerate nature of Femsa is appealing, as is its reasonably solid track record, the problem that I have is: what's the future? The company's Oxxo stores are very compelling, but I have no interest in investing in Coca-cola in this country or any other (Asian conglomerate Swire is a Coke bottler, another company I want to like but can't.) Bill Gates was a large shareholder in Femsa for a while, but I believe he sold his shares not that long ago.
    Although, that said, there was an interesting article on "The Most Successful Company in the World" the other day, and it wasn't a company that makes things that are good for people. (http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/02/13/the-extraordinary-story-of-americas-most-successfu.aspx)
    I certainly don't own all things that are good for people. I own a liquor stock, although it's not a large holding. People do drink in good times and bad, but I think what's really kind of compelling is that you have this enormous industry where the big public names are now down to a few (and one less after Beam was recently bought.)
    Long, rambling story short,
    1. If I'm invested in a single name, the intent is a long-term holding with reinvesting dividends. It may have periods of under-performance, but I'm definitely diversified.
    2. Most people should go with a fund and if I were to go with a fund, I'd likely go with T Rowe Latin America.
  • The Correlation Conundrum And Liquid Alternatives
    FYI: As the popularity of so-called liquid-alternative funds increases, many of us wonder how they will perform in the inevitable bear market.
    Regards,
    Ted
    http://www.investmentnews.com/article/20150215/REG/150219955?template=printart
  • Dodge & Cox Stock Fund (DODGX) at 50
    @davidmoran
    I can't really speak to DODGX which is the topic of Charles' post. But, I've done well with this company in general. Converted a bunch of their Global (DODWX) to a Roth near the bottom in 09 and rode it back up for about 3 years. Paid off very well. The past 2-3 years that money's been tucked. away in their Income Fund (DODIX) and their Balanced Fund (DODBX). Very pleased with the 5 YR numbers for the Balanced - 13.35% annualized.
    Heck, it's lagging the S&P by only a little over 2% for that period. The funds you list look like equity funds rather than balanced. They appear to be fine funds. They'd running 1-2% ahead of DODBX over the 5 year time frame from what I can observe.
    In a way I hate touting good numbers like those for fear there will be another stampede of hot money into the funds. Folks than yank it back out when markets start correcting and it makes it really tough for those of us who are in for the long term.
  • Dodge & Cox Stock Fund (DODGX) at 50
    Thanks. A nice appraisal. Those were dark days for certain.
    Here we're 50% TRP, 25% D&C, and the remainder split up among Oakmark, Permenant Portfolio and Oppenheimer. Been that way for a long time. Burry the nuts in different locations like the squirrels.
    Take care.
  • Issue in downloading the Great owls
    Hi dicksonL.
    Sorry you are having trouble.
    You just need to download once.
    The Fixed Income, Asset Allocation, and Equity Great Owl funds are each on separate sheets...just click on the appropriate tab in lower left of spread sheet.
    Here's snapshot of what you should see when you open downloaded spreadsheet (without the arrow):
    image
    If you are still having trouble, message me...and work will to correct soonest.
    c
  • Scott Burns: Couch Potato Investing Trumps “Expert” Investing, Once More
    I read this article in our local paper as well this morning. It takes very little effort to find moderate allocation funds that easily outperform the couch potato portfolio of index funds. Our two primary moderate allocation funds (PRWCX & FPACX) do and it is not really all that close.
    As of 2/13/15, 1 yr, 3 yr, 5 yr, 10 yr returns
    Couch Potato 8.88, 8.92, 10.36, 6.195 -50% VTSMX & 50% VIPSX
    PRWCX 13.8, 14.99, 13.91, 8.91
    FPACX 7.77, 11.46, 10.86, 8.41
    VWELX 11.59, 12.7, 12.09, 8.06
    DODBX 9.97, 15.58, 13.36, 6.85
    OAKBX 10.19, 11.66, 10.29, 8.17
    Proof that lower expense ratios alone do not necessarily guarantee better performance.