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I won't try to defend Mr. Cinnamond's record or explain why I find his approach compelling - I've done this on a different thread - and I can sympathize with the feelings one gets from a losing investment that sometimes takes year not to pay off. But to correct something you have said for others: ARIVX was Cinnamond's third fund as a manager and, I believe, second as a lead after ICMAX.I've not been a fan since losing money investing in ARIVX (I think that was Cinnamond's first solo adventure with his "disciplined" style).
Appreciate it, @Old_Joe. It seemed like the thing to do: to provide a thread to serve as a clearinghouse for all of our best ideas. Happy Easter to all.@Crash- I just noticed- Over 58 THOUSAND views... One THOUSAND comments... One YEAR near the top of the page...
Great job, Crash! You deserve some sort of MFO award. Ol' Ted would be green with envy.
Congrats-
OJ
If PVCMX helps people sleep better at night, I'm all for it. It just seems to me that the peace of mind it affords has more to do with asset allocation than stock analysis.the MOAT ETF can choose to invest in a select group of about 145 companies with economic moats identified by Morningstar analysts. These companies are narrowed down based on intrinsic value, which is calculated using a long-term discounted cash flow model.
Must you post these same comments numerous times on multiple boards?I invest where markets tell me.
1995-2000 US LC 100% indexes
2000-2010 Value, SC, international mainly in 3 funds FAIRX,OAKBX, SGIIX
Since 2010 mainly US LC+ PIMIX until 2018. Then mainly bond funds.
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I was thinking of a scenario along these lines.If you compute returns without considering all expenses, but still including the effect of the waiver, then you're increasing the yield by 0.3%.
Some companies seem to be more explicit about this. Clearly, Fidelity is one of the more thorough outfits and spells this out, but I was not sure about the others. In fact, I have tried to verify this relatively recently w WMPXX. Strangely, I ended up with a number that was exactly 0.20% less than expected, which also happened to be their Net Expense Ratio and made it appear as if they were not factoring expenses into the quoted yield. But, given the N-1A requirements, I must have simply miscalculated.Or, just look at the SEC definition as Yogi suggests.https://institutional.fidelity.com/app/proxy/content?literatureURL=/9903527.PDF7-Day Yield: The average income return over the previous seven days, assuming the rate stays the same for one year. It is the Fund's total income net of expenses, divided by the total number of outstanding shares and includes any applicable waiver or reimbursement. The 7-Day SEC Yield Without Reductions is the yield without applicable waivers or reimbursements.
https://institutional.fidelity.com/app/proxy/content?literatureURL=/9903527.PDF7-Day Yield: The average income return over the previous seven days, assuming the rate stays the same for one year. It is the Fund's total income net of expenses, divided by the total number of outstanding shares and includes any applicable waiver or reimbursement. The 7-Day SEC Yield Without Reductions is the yield without applicable waivers or reimbursements.
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