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  • December Rate Cut in Doubt as Fed Fault Lines Deepen, Minutes Show
    Following are excerpts from a current report in The New York Times:
    The central bank’s decision to lower interest rates last month was more divisive than it first appeared as officials splintered over how to weigh a weakening labor market against rising inflation.
    Many officials at the Federal Reserve did not think the central bank should lower interest rates in December when they voted last month for a second cut in a row, according to minutes from October’s meeting. The record of the latest gathering, released on Wednesday, highlighted a divide that has only deepened since officials opted for a quarter-point cut that brought interest rates down to a range of 3.75 percent to 4 percent. Some policymakers who supported the reduction could have also supported the Fed standing pat, the minutes said, while several were against a cut.
    “In discussing the near-term course of monetary policy, participants expressed strongly differing views about what policy decision would most likely be appropriate at the committee’s December meeting,” the minutes said.
    October’s decision was already divisive. It featured a rare two-way dissent. Stephen I. Miran, whom President Trump recently picked to join the Fed’s board of governors, again voted for a larger, half-point reduction and Jeffrey R. Schmid, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, voted against any move at all. It was the third meeting in a row in which the interest rate decision was not unanimous.
    If the Fed does not cut interest rates next month, that will surely inflame tensions with President Trump, who has repeatedly lambasted Mr. Powell and attacked the politically independent central bank for not lowering borrowing costs as swiftly as he would like. On Wednesday, Mr. Trump revived a threat to remove Mr. Powell before his term ends in May, saying that he would “love to fire his ass.”
    The core of the disagreement revolves around how to balance a labor market that has started to show some signs of strain against inflation, which has gained momentum because of Mr. Trump’s tariffs and moved even further from the Fed’s 2 percent target. Some officials appear more inclined to look past the temporary price pressures stemming from tariffs and assume that, over time, their impact will fade. Instead, they harbor much greater concern about companies pulling back on hiring and the prospects of unemployment spiking.
    In a separate camp sit officials who worry far less about the slowdown in monthly jobs growth, which they believe is a function of a reduction in the supply of available workers as a result of Mr. Trump’s immigration crackdown. They do not believe interest rates are weighing too heavily on economic growth and instead believe that the Fed should be far more focused on the fact that inflation has remained stuck above the central bank’s target for nearly five years.
    New economic data typically plays a pivotal role in helping to resolve outstanding differences between officials and has proved crucial for allowing Mr. Powell to forge broad support for policy decisions. But the recent government shutdown, which stretched on for over 40 days and was the longest on record, has upended the release of a range of monthly reports, including those tracking payrolls growth and inflation. That has meant the Fed has not had a clear view of how the economy is faring since August.
    The government data drought will start to ease this week, with September’s jobs report released on Thursday and another metric tracking prices for that month for goods and services that companies use to make products out the next week. The Bureau of Labor Statistics, the agency responsible for collecting the data and publishing its findings, said on Wednesday that it was delaying the release of the November jobs report to Dec. 16, roughly a week after the December interest rate decision. The agency said it would also publish part of October’s jobs report at that point.
    Without important data in hand, the December decision looks even more uncertain than it did just a few weeks ago. Several policymakers have already made clear that they do not think the Fed should cut at that point. But the case for cutting still has powerful backers. One of the most vocal supporters is Christopher J. Waller, a governor who is in the running to replace Mr. Powell as Fed chair. In a speech this week, Mr. Waller emphasized that the labor market was near “stall speed” and that inflation concerns were overblown.
  • The Week in Charts | Charlie Bilello
    The Week in Charts (11/17/25)
    The most important charts and themes in markets and investing...
    00:00 Intro
    00:52 Topics
    01:58 Why the 50-Year Mortgage Is a Terrible Idea
    10:02 How to Make Inflation Spike Again
    13:29 This Is The End
    17:44 Burry’s Bearish Bet
    22:12 December Rate Cut in Jeopardy
    25:01 Rising Delinquencies
    27:04 All Tariffs Are Transitory
    31:10 The MicroStrategy Moment?
    37:23 Driverless Cars
    Video
    Blog
  • Anyone talk investments with friends?
    our guy says we are doing great "
    That raises an interesting question. Assuming this is for someone in retirement, what would ”doing great” mean YTD?
    Someone sitting 100% in cash would think 5% YTD is “great.”
    Playing in longer dated CDs …. maybe 7%?
    With 100% in a balanced fund 10% might appear “great.”
    For an actively managed broadly diversified portfolio +15% might be “great “
    With an hefty exposure to gold / precious metals, +30% YTD might represent “great”.
    Disclosure: My performance has not been “great”, but is OK. I’ve managed to step on my own toes a few times this year.
    I think most people would be even hard pressed to answer what they meant by "doing great". and that might be fine. it could be, we set up a plan and we are on track. but IMO its unfathomable to me to leave that to trusting a person who even though is maybe bound by some fiduciary "code", really can have whatever motives they want.
    In most of my circles, most people think their advisor is staring at candlestick charts shouting "buy" "sell" into a phone all day long and had their finger on the pulse of the market and is beating the pants off the market. So when they say "great!" they usually think they are beating some benchmark because their guy is uniquely intelligent enough to position them in that way.
  • Why we could use a good, long bear market
    Trump's "influence" over the markets has been greatly exaggerated, IMHO.
    I don't know that Orange, Bessent & co. can really stem the tide once it goes out.
    I would argue that he has more influence on the downside: tariff threats have caused a lot of that. Then he backs off somewhat and the markets resume their normal activity.
    Much lower FED funds rates can create a softer landing, I expect. Such a move would be a flashing red light signaling fear too. Potentially spurring even more inflation. In fact, everything they might do, lower rates, stimulus checks, QE, etc is likely to spur more inflation. Then what? Gaslight everyone, again? Tell them that things are "really" cheaper.
    Or eliminate more tariffs, tacitly admitting that tariffs are unsustainable and drive inflation, and that all the lofty goals/promises are to be discarded? Basically acknowledge that tariffs have gutted an unusually strong economy? A gift that was squandered.
    My belief, all along, has been that trump was handed an unusually strong economy and that is the only reason that he was able to apply tariffs at that scale without crashing it immediately. But, that the day would come. Are we there, yet?
    He might want to focus his influence on DJT stock. It is down 65% YTD and fast approaching its all time low.

  • Anyone talk investments with friends?
    Winning, as it relates to investing, means having the financial means to achieve your goals.
    Beating some arbitrary benchmark is irrelevant.
    True to a degree. I used to play tennis with a guy that sold his business for 10-15 million in 1995. He has been invested in 90+% munis.
    He could be in 100% cash? Do you call it a win?
    Someone who read that if you have enough, don't play the stock market anymore and invested in the total bond index, BND, in the last 15 years and made 2.2% annually...is it a win?
    The biggest problem is that most can't define their goals with a specific number for performance, SD and max draw to know if they won. :-)
  • Anyone talk investments with friends?
    our guy says we are doing great "
    That raises an interesting question. Assuming this is for someone in retirement, what would ”doing great” mean YTD?
    Someone sitting 100% in cash would think 5% YTD is “great.”
    Playing in longer dated CDs …. maybe 7%?
    With 100% in a balanced fund 10% might appear “great.”
    For an actively managed broadly diversified portfolio +15% might be “great “
    With an hefty exposure to gold / precious metals, +30% YTD might represent “great”.
    Disclosure: My performance has not been “great”, but is OK. I’ve managed to step on my own toes a few times this year.
  • Investing In AI Technology
    "You could do worse than owning companies prominent enough to have their own shared nickname,
    but you probably could do better."
    "The group on everyone’s lips today is the Magnificent Seven.
    The performance of those stocks—especially Nvidia, which will unveil quarterly results this afternoon—
    has almost singlehandedly supported the S&P 500 since ChatGPT was unveiled three years ago."
    "AI technology certainly has legs, but the arc of history bends toward mediocrity for stocks
    once they get their own sobriquet."
    https://marketsam.cmail20.com/t/d-e-gjkjdht-duklntldl-r/
  • Vanguard Launches Three New Active Equity ETFs
    A short summary based on the link posted above:
    VUSV (ER 0.30%) will use Russell 1000 value index as the benchmark. Close cousin OEF is Vanguard Windsor fund
    VUSG (ER 0.35%) will use Russell 1000 growth index as the benchmark. Close cousin OEF is Vanguard Global Equity fund, but it is co-managed with several non-Wellington managers.
    VDIG (ER 0.40%) will use similar strategy as Vanguard Dividend Growth fund.
  • Anyone talk investments with friends?
    None of my friends like to talk about investing. From the little that they’ve said, it seems that they all use financial advisors. I’ve got no problem with that, but find investing very interesting and would enjoy talking about it.
    its the same here. most will say "our guy says we are doing great" and have no idea whether they are or not and are just happy that someone says its doing great.
    I'm not interested in this because i'm trying to beat the system or "win the game". I just enjoy the math if I had to guess a reason. when someone does express interest and want to talk to me it's usually because they think if i'm interested it's because i have some out-performing strategy and they want in. and then are largely disappointed when i'm like figure out your risk profile and build a well diversified allocation based on your tolerance. Check your risk profile again 5 years later and make changes if appropriate. not what they are expecting to hear.
    I have someone who wants to talk with me at Thanksgiving who sold a few investment properties and wants to talk about what they should do with this money. boy o boy are they going to probably be disappointed when i'm not like "well you see you need to load up on fartcoin and 3X Beyond Meat leveraged ETF's"
  • Why we could use a good, long bear market
    Once retailers raise their prices, it is highly unlikely to rollback the prices. Perhaps a penny or two. The tariffs is a broad-based tax on US citizens and the administration knows that. Now that there is ample evidence of rising prices, the Administration is lowering tariffs on selected items including beef, fruits, and few others. The tariffs check is a slap on the face since we are paying much more than $2,000 with the increased food cost.
    There is a 50/50 chance of. December cut (25 bps), but the board is not commit to it until they see more updated labor data. Even as the government opens now, it will take several weeks to released the labor statistics.
    If NVIDIA reported lower than expected earning today, the market will reacts accordingly.
  • Anyone talk investments with friends?
    Some of my friends periodically ask me what they should do with their investments. I usually limit my responses to something like, "What do you have in mind and why?", "That would be an okay choice for a small portion of your total holdings.", or most often, "I am not qualified to advise you and refuse to jeopardize our friendship over something like this; even the best investors in the world can make terrible mistakes."
    But about four or five weeks ago I had an unusual conversation with my nephew, who works as a tradesman and has a wife and two very young kids. To prep and sell their home of seven years they moved into a condo, soon to move to another state for better employment. I expressed concern about carrying both rents, to which my nephew replied "Don't worry, I have money saved", and then showed me the four holdings using his cell phone. The two top holdings were Bitcoin and Ethereum! He had held everything long enough to turn roughly $25K into six figures.
    I was stunned, elated, and unable to contain myself. "How did you select these holdings", "What was the advice you got (from a friend) that convinced you", "Do you know anything about what these companies do", Do you have any idea how incredibly unusual your returns are", I asked. His answers confirmed he is a total neophyte when it comes to investing. Once I caught my breath I suggested he take the bulk of his winnings off the table to pause and regroup, not only to lock in the gains but also to maintain his family's stability during this precarious time. While I felt strongly this was the right thing to do, in the back of my mind I also knew it is tough to tell anyone who has seen so much success to make such a big change in direction.
    In the last week the market has made a big change in direction and those holdings have plummeted. Enough to more than cover the taxes my nephew would have to pay for liquidating his holdings a month ago. I have no idea whether or not he took my advice.
  • Why we could use a good, long bear market
    I stopped listening to Gundlach years ago based on (this).
    I love hearing charismatic Gunflach, but I don't trade based on his advice.
    The SP500 (chart) broke thru the 50-day MA. It's pretty clear. The next one is the 100-day MA. I don't believe in MA because they are not accurate. The MACD is a better one. If you pay attention, it's meaningful when MACD goes below -50.
    But, the index is only about -4.5% from the top; it's meaningless so far, after it was up about 18% in 2025.
    I love bear markets, especially in bonds; after a big decline, it's the easiest time to make money.
  • Why we could use a good, long bear market
    +1.
    Well, ya. Once prices go up, they never come down unless there's a Depression. I remember the teacher giving us one example: you could buy a restaurant meal for .25 cents during those very bad years. But the Markets sank, too.
    They've screwed it up every which way but loose, without even trying. Just a few idiot-moves.
  • Why we could use a good, long bear market
    Do not think for one minute that he THINKS about ANYTHING. Everything is kneejerk and impulse, heightened by dementia, maybe alzheimer's. His handlers would minimize his public-time, if they were smart. But they're NOT. They're ass-kissers. Meanwhile the Congress and Cabinet should be invoking "25," but there is not a spine to be found among them.
  • retail-mageddon inevitable in PE\PC ?

    rarely have a read a better, scarier, brief. it is crypto-like in a guaranteed broader collapse.
    "...top quartile [private] funds typically don’t return capital for over 15years...
    [and retail will pick the winners and hold 100X longer than their typical trade, right?]
    Why do you think the White House put out an executive order a few months ago to “democratize access” to alternative assets in 401(k) plans? Did Donald Trump wake up one day suddenly offended that grandma and grandpa couldn’t buy private equity like all of his rich buddies?
    Please. I’ve never seen a more blatant use of “democratization” as a disguise for selling someone else’s bags. Private equity needs exit liquidity and everyday Americans have it..."

    https://ofdollarsanddata.com/the-one-thing-my-worst-investments-had-in-common/
    disclaimer : i have held brookfield stock for ~2 decades based on hard asset value and owner operations.
    i have always sold the sub spins, some at loss, and never invested in their funds.
    the largest alt managers have themselves been good holdings, commonly by steady fee income, but i encourage a deep look in their differences.
  • Why we could use a good, long bear market
    Gundlach: I owned his vanilla core-plus bond fund years ago. Left with a tiny profit. I think he sounds convincing in that podcast. Having said that, always remember: there are too many variables to juggle. The best thing I've heard lately is to invest toward the probabilities and stay diversified.
    *I'm into Barry Ritholtz' latest: "How Not To Invest." It's written for neophyte rookies who know nothing about nothing when it comes to investing. Almost a pap-ish Readers' Digest style. He's not wrong. But the conversational style makes the book about 3X longer than it needs to be. And there's no table of contents. The sections are all just a page and a half long, on average. The good stuff is buried under 59 different illustrations and examples. That's 59 times, over and over and over...
    As for these last few days... Quoting Josh Brown from CNBC a lot of years ago: "I'm just doing my kegels and hanging on." More recently, he told a podcaster: "Just stay invested and shut the fuck up." Expressed with humorous intention.
  • Why we could use a good, long bear market
    All over X today was the fact that for the first time since April 30 the S@P closed below its 50 day moving average. The fifth longest uptrend since 1950. Going into today we had something like 5 Hindenburg Omens, One in and of itself is pretty meaningless. But 5 much more meaningful. It is easy to be bearish here but still, I don’t trust Trump and as previously mentioned think he will pull out all the stops to keep stocks and bonds afloat before mid terms next November.
    Some history on the Hindenburg Omen
    https://www.mcoscillator.com/learning_center/weekly_chart/hindenburg_omen_fires_5_signals/
    Thanks. I agree on all points, except I am skeptical that trump can do much once consumer sentiment is crushed. Slowing inflation is something that could be accomplished by rolling back all tariffs. But, is it even possible to roll back inflation? Lower rates may well be interpreted as a bad omen, as would stimulus checks. A likely reinforcement that the sky is falling.
  • Vanguard Launches Three New Active Equity ETFs
    https://corporate.vanguard.com/content/corporatesite/us/en/corp/who-we-are/pressroom/press-release-vanguard-launches-three-new-active-equity-etfs-111825.html
    Vanguard Wellington U.S. Value Active ETF (VUSV), Vanguard Wellington U.S. Growth Active ETF (VUSG), and Vanguard Wellington Dividend Growth Active ETF (VDIG)
  • Anyone talk investments with friends?
    My few pals generally discuss health and politics way more than money. Yesterday one of two best friends who has revealed he is 60/40 admitted he only checks his portfolio when the monthly statement is issued. Had no idea about recent market conditions. Other friend is very ill and in a care facility, he told me yesterday that he will run out of money in 2.5 years but had a plan to generate “ 10-12% return from his portfolio. He watches CNBC all day. I guess my point is that, unless one is a boglehead,,, we all invest in way that is uniquely personal.
  • Alternatives to core bond funds
    '''Why EGRIX and then switch to EIGMX? because after a decline, a more volatile fund would make more.""
    OR just possibly continue to lose more?
    I don't think FD would disagree with that: "A fund with higher SD loses money quicker."
    Given that the decision was to switch to a more volatile fund after the decline ending early April 2025, why make a switch from a more volatile fund, EGRIX (1& 3 year std dev of 4.11, 5.22) to a less volatile fund, EIGMX (2.07, 3.22)?
    Portfolio Visualizer 1 year std devs (and other figures) April 2024 - March 2025
    Portfolio Visualizer 3 year std devs (and other figures) April 2022 - March 2025
    "I owned EGRIX earlier in 2025, and now I have owned EIGMX for several months."
    That switch hasn't worked out so well.
    Both funds bottomed out on April 9th. Since that decline, per M* charts through Nov 17th:
    EGRIX +13.31%
    EIGMX +8.39%
    The figures are similar for shorter time periods. Just in case "several months" means a switch sometime after the funds resumed an upward trend. (Contrarian investors try to invest before a bottom, trend/momentum investors tend to invest after an upturn.)
    April - Oct monthly returns
    EGRIX: 0.37%, 2.11%, 1.44%, 0.89%, 1.49%, 1.65%, 2.39%
    EIGMX: 0.23%, 1.41%, 0.93%, 0.58%, 1.04%, 1.03%, 1.49%
    Data from Portfolio Visualizer (see table of monthly returns on page)