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    Your local library may subscribes to many fee-only news sites,which is funded by your property tax. Depending on the city you live in, the level of the availability varies.
    If you subscribe to Apple News which have some but not all the WSJ, NYT, Washington Post and other articles. One year fee is $120.
  • Oakmark Bond Fund OAKCX
    According to M*
    AUM=96.6 million
    Performance YTD in category Percentile Rank = 79 and lagging. One year is in the top 10, not bad.
    I would use a generic fund like DODIX.
    As Trader, I can find much better options but none are in the Intermediate Core-Plus Bond category.
  • Oakmark Bond Fund OAKCX
    "What shouldn't I like about this fund?"
    If it's me, looking at this fund's performance since inception, and knowing that I've never been interested in owning ANY Oakmark bond fund (see YBB's comments) since starting to invest in 1980, my question would be,
    "What should I like about this fund?"
    And my answer would be,
    "Nothing."
  • Oakmark Bond Fund OAKCX
    I don’t know why M* coughed-up its premium analyst rating when I pulled up OAKCX this morning. Not a subscriber. But I coped a piece of it (excerpt from a portion of full report):
    ”Oakmark Bond Fund earns an Average Process Pillar rating. The investment strategy as stated in the fund's prospectus is as follows: The investment seeks to maximize both current income and total return, consistent with prudent investment and principal protection management. The fund invests primarily in a diversified portfolio of bonds and other fixed-income securities. Under normal market conditions, and it invests at least 25% of its assets in investment-grade fixed-income securities and may invest up to 35% of its assets in below investment-grade fixed-income securities (commonly known as "high-yield" or "junk bonds").
    “The main contributor to the rating is the firm's five-year retention rate of 82% over the period. Management team experience, which averages 16 years at this fund, also supports the rating. Lastly, the process is limited by the parent firm's five-year risk-adjusted success ratio of 47%. The measure indicates the percentage of a firm's funds that survived and outperformed their respective category's median Morningstar Risk-Adjusted Return for the period. The parent's subpar success ratio suggests that the firm could do better across its fund lineup.
    “This strategy has a 3.7% 12-month yield, higher than its average peer's 3.4%. Typically, higher yields come at the cost of higher credit risk. Rated on Jun 23, 2023 Published on Jun 23, 2023”

    * AUM rarely bothers me unless below 50 M putting a fund at risk of closure. All else being equal I prefer smaller AUMs.
  • Oakmark Bond Fund OAKCX
    Harris is a value boutique in Chicago. It runs Oakmark funds. It isn't known for deep bond bench. In fact, OAKBX for years had mostly Treasuries for the bond portion and that worked for a good deal of times; some years ago, OAKBX added more bond analysts.
    Why chase new bond funds from Harris?
    OAKCX, Inception 1/28/22
    M* shows 1/28/22-6/29/23 -7.99%
    Yahoo Finance Adjusted-Prices 1/31/22-6/29/23 -9.02% (It doesn't accept prior dates)
    StockCharts - OAKCX not recognized
  • Oakmark Bond Fund OAKCX
    Oakmark site and M* both show, as of 5/31/23:
    YTD: 1.86%
    1 year: -1.45%
    Since inception: -5.92%
    (Mousing over perfomance barchart on Oakmark site)
  • Oakmark Bond Fund OAKCX
    OAKCX.
    I'm going to liquidate a couple of tiny bond ETF holdings. Considering redeploying into OAKCX.
    What shouldn't I like about this fund? It's rather new. $1M (yes) in AUM. Started-up in January of 2022. Listed as "Core-plus."
    The mini-canned interview on the Oakmark website tells me the Managers utilize a combination of Quant and Quality in choosing what to acquire. And HARRIS is involved, somehow. Sub-advisors? I dunno.
    https://oakmark.com/our-funds/oakmark-bond/
    Up +4.04% since inception on 1/28/22.
    Ork! M* performance statistics do not match what their own chart tells me. Figures, eh?
    WSJ website shows -13% in share price since inception, but that excludes dividends.
    WSJ: YTD +1.68%.
    Can't find apples to apples anywhere. Crud.
  • Wildermuth Fund to be liquidated
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1586009/000121390023052922/ea157252_497.htm
    497 1 ea157252_497.htm 497
    Wildermuth Fund
    Supplement dated June 29, 2023, to the Wildermuth Fund Class A Shares and Class C Shares
    prospectus and the Class I Shares prospectus, each dated July 29, 2022
    and to the Statement of Additional Information (“SAI”) of the Class A, Class C and Class I Shares of the
    Wildermuth Fund dated July 29, 2022
    Effective immediately, the Board of Trustees (the “Board”) of Wildermuth Fund (the “Fund”), based upon the recommendation of Wildermuth Advisory LLC (the “Adviser”), the Fund’s investment adviser, approved a plan of liquidation for the Fund (the “Liquidation Plan”). After considering a variety of factors, the Board concluded that it would be advisable and in the best interest of the Fund and its shareholders that the Fund be closed and liquidated.
    As a result of the adoption of the Liquidation Plan, the Fund will no longer actively pursue its stated investment objective, and the Adviser will begin to liquidate the Fund’s portfolio. The Fund’s portfolio manager will likely increase the Fund’s assets held in cash and cash equivalents in order to prepare for an orderly liquidation. As a result, the Fund is expected to deviate from its stated investment objective, policies and strategies.
    In connection with the Fund’s liquidation, shareholders will receive one or more payments representing the shareholder’s proportionate interest in the net assets of the Fund, after the Fund has paid or provided for all taxes, expenses and any other liabilities, subject to any required withholdings. While the Fund intends to proceed with the Liquidation Plan, at this time, there is no estimate of when the liquidation will be completed.
    Sales of the Fund’s shares were suspended effective June 22, 2023. In addition, effective June 29, 2023, the Fund’s quarterly repurchase offers will be suspended through the final distribution of the Fund’s assets pursuant to the Liquidation Plan.
    The Fund’s website (www.wildermuthfund.com) will provide information, when available, about the status of the Fund, including information regarding dates and amounts of distributions, among other information and periodic reports relating to the Fund.
    This supplement supersedes any prior supplements related to the above topics.
    Please retain this supplement with the Fund’s Prospectus and SAI.
  • Larry Summers and the Crisis of Economic Orthodoxy
    LB, I already read the article the first time. The economy was great until covid arrived.
    Can you deny that Trump had the biggest increase in real wages since 1980 or the other fact that houses and vehicles which are usually the biggest 2 items are less affordable ever?
  • All Good, 23 Banks
    Matt Levine has an interesting newsletter today regarding all of this: Stress Tests (in MFO "Other Investing")
  • Matt Levine / Money Stuff: Stress tests
    Stress tests
    If you are a risk manager at a big bank, you might want to run some stress tests examining how your bank will perform under stressful scenarios. If you are creative and good at your job, you will have fun thinking up the scenarios. You will get in a room with some of your subordinates, and ideally with some front-line traders and managers, and brainstorm bad stuff that might happen.
    Your brainstorming might include some history: “What if 2008 happens again?” “What if 1929 happens again?” “What if LTCM happens again?” It might include some simple numerical questions: “What if the S&P falls by 20%?” “What if the Fed raises rates to 7%?” “What if the Fed lowers rates to 0%?” You might think about social and geopolitical and technological questions and try to translate them into economic scenarios: “What if nobody goes back to the office and office rents fall 50%?” “What if artificial intelligence causes mass unemployment?” “What if Russia’s war in Ukraine keeps pushing up oil prices?” You might think about scenarios specific to your bank’s operations: “What if our CEO gets run over by a bus?” “What if our CEO steals the corporate treasury?”
    Have fun, go nuts, be creative. Think of lots of scenarios. Then model how those scenarios will translate into market prices, how they will affect your funding costs and the cash flows from your assets. Then model how much capital and liquidity you will have in each scenario. Part of the goal here is to make sure that you will have plenty of capital and liquidity in a wide range of stressful scenarios. Part of the goal is to figure out which scenarios will be worse for you, so you can know what to worry about and hedge: If your model tells you that you’ll be fine if the Fed raises rates and bankrupt if it lowers rates, maybe you should do something about that.
    If there is some specific event that you are worried about — some new worry that crops up — you might sit down and design a stress test for that event to make sure that you’d survive it. But your overall approach to stress testing will be something like “let’s constantly think of new things to worry about, and test for those.” It will not be “let me think of the one biggest thing to worry about, and test only for that.” Lots of things can go wrong in different directions! If you only worry about one thing, you will miss the other things.
    Also separately the Federal Reserve conducts annual stress tests for big US banks, but those are … different. The Fed’s stress tests were created after the 2008 crisis, basically to shore up confidence in the banks so that they could raise capital. The Fed is in the business of supervising big banks, and as part of that business it prods the banks to consider various risks, to prepare for different scenarios, to build a robust culture of stress testing and risk management. But the Fed’s official stress tests are a public exercise designed to make sure — and tell everyone — that the banking system could survive another 2008.
    And so each year the Fed sits down and thinks something like “what is the most plausible way for 2008 to happen this year,” and then it writes one stress-test scenario[1] that is basically “there’s a recession and real estate prices collapse,” and the banks run their models to see how much money they would lose in that scenario, and generally the answer is “a certain amount, but not enough to leave us undercapitalized,” and the banks pass the stress tests.
    This became slightly awkward in 2020 when the stress-test scenario involved the US unemployment rate peaking at 10%, while the actual stress of Covid-19 caused unemployment to peak at 14.7%. If you ask questions like “can banks survive another 2008,” you will not quite get an answer to the question “can banks survive a global pandemic?” The answer to that question, however, turned out to be yes: For a combination of reasons (supportive government policy and Fed lending, but also profiting on volatility), the big banks did pretty well in Covid.
    It also became slightly awkward this year when the Fed released its stress-test scenario in February, and it went like this:
    The severely adverse scenario is characterized by a severe global recession accompanied by a period of heightened stress in both commercial and residential real estate markets, as well as in corporate debt markets. The U.S. unemployment rate rises nearly 6½ percentage points from the starting point of the scenario in the fourth quarter of 2022 to its peak of 10 percent in the third quarter of 2024. The sharp decline in economic activity is also accompanied by an increase in market volatility, widening corporate bond spreads, and a collapse in asset prices, including a 38 percent decline in house prices and a 40 percent decline in commercial real estate prices. …
    The rising unemployment rate and the rapid decline in aggregate demand for goods and services significantly reduce inflationary pressures. …
    Short-term interest rates, as measured by the 3-month Treasury rate, fall significantly to near zero by the third quarter of 2023 and remain there for the remainder of the scenario. Long-term interest rates, as measured by the 10-year Treasury yield, fall by nearly 3¼ percentage points by the second quarter of 2023, and then gradually rise in late 2023 to about 1½ percent by the end of the scenario.
    Fine, right, recession, real-estate collapse, corporate credit blows out, rates go to zero, the 2008 of 2023. But then in March a couple of US banks failed, and many others came under a lot of stress, for exactly the opposite reason: Inflation was persistently high, interest rates went up, and those banks had to pay more on deposits even as their holdings of Treasury bonds lost value. Silicon Valley Bank was not subject to the Fed’s stress tests, as a mid-sized bank, but if it had been it would have done great! It did not do great in real life.
    Anyway yesterday the 23 big banks subject to the stress tests all passed. Here are the Fed’s press release and the full results. One of the banks that passed is the US arm of Credit Suisse Group AG, which survived the Fed’s hypothetical stress scenario just fine but which vanished due to the stress of real life. From the Fed’s press release:
    "Today's results confirm that the banking system remains strong and resilient," Vice Chair for Supervision Michael S. Barr said. "At the same time, this stress test is only one way to measure that strength. We should remain humble about how risks can arise and continue our work to ensure that banks are resilient to a range of economic scenarios, market shocks, and other stresses."
    Yes.
    Now, this year’s stress test did include another scenario for the eight biggest banks, which (1) is different from the regular stress test and (2) is closer to what actually happened:
    In February 2023, for the first time, the Federal Reserve published an additional, exploratory market shock component that applied only to U.S. G-SIBs. The purpose of the stress test is to understand a firm’s resilience to a range of severe but plausible events, and the exploratory component furthers that purpose by posing a different set of risks than is probed by this year’s global market shock component.
    In contrast to this year’s global market shock component, which was characterized by a severe recession with fading inflation expectations, the exploratory market shock is characterized by a less severe recession with greater inflationary pressures induced by higher inflation expectations, increases in interest rates, an appreciation of the U.S. dollar, and increases in commodity prices.
    This scenario doesn’t count for bank capital requirements — “Consistent with the nature of an exploratory exercise, the exploratory market shock will not contribute to the capital requirements set by this year’s stress test” — but it is intellectually interesting. Broadly speaking the big banks did a little better in this scenario than in the severe-recession scenario.
    But also, in real life, the big banks did fine in the scenario that actually happened (except Credit Suisse!): The problems at US regional banks seem to have driven deposits into the biggest banks, as depositors got nervous about small banks and fled to the safety of big banks. (Look how safe they are, they keep passing the stress tests.) The actual world of 2023 was different from the hypothetical world of the stress tests, and in some ways more stressful for the US banking system, but it worked out fine for the biggest banks.
    A general feature of the Fed’s stress tests is that, when the Fed serves up a “severely adverse” stress scenario to the banks, the banks go off and model the effect it would have on their business, and if they come back to the Fed and say “actually this would be good for us,” the Fed gets mad at them. You’re not supposed to say that! Goldman Sachs Group notably did this in 2020, arguing that its trading business was countercyclical, and that in a stressful scenario it would simply make a ton of money trading derivatives; the Fed was not amused. But sometimes it is true! Some hypothetical scenarios would be very bad for the big banks, other hypothetical scenarios would be good for the big banks, and it’s perfectly plausible that some scenarios would be bad — for the world, for the economy, for the banking system — while also being good for the big banks. The way to manage this risk is to think about lots of scenarios and make sure the banks would survive all of them.
  • Fund Allocations (Cumulative), 5/31/23
    Fund Allocations (Cumulative), 5/31/23
    There were tiny shifts from global stocks & hybrids into m-mkt funds. The changes for OEFs + ETFs were based on a total AUM of about $30.50 trillion in the previous month, so +/- 1% change was about +/- $305.0 billion. Also note that these changes were from both fund inflows/outflows & price changes. #Funds #OEFs #ETFs #ICI
    OEFs & ETFs: Stocks 57.57%, Hybrids 5.00%, Bonds 19.63%, M-Mkt 17.80%
    https://ybbpersonalfinance.proboards.com/post/1089/thread
  • W-4R Experience
    @catch22 :
    "Our house takes RMD's from T-IRA's in December and we play with how much FED and STATE tax we want removed depending on our estimate of how much we will owe from taxable sources through the tax year. Our goal is to be about even in taxes paid versus taxes owed."
    I usually do the same , wait until the last two months of the year & take my RMD.
    Over the last three years refund $995 owe $317 refund 1011 from Fed Taxes .
    I believe the year I owed Mr. Vanguard had some rather unexpected CG's !
  • Larry Summers and the Crisis of Economic Orthodoxy
    @FD1000 First, real wages make adjustments for the costs of housing and other objects subject to inflation. Without comparing the increase in wages to the increase in the cost of housing and vehicles, simply saying housing/vehicles have increased x% and that's bad is misleading. Real wages, after falling during the initial phase of last year's inflationary spike, are rising again this year and currently higher than they were for most of the previous president's administration. Second, the article I linked earlier is quite thorough in its analysis of Trump's administration, making allowances for the "black swan" event of the pandemic, which, given the amount of government spending that occurred that Republicans normally oppose, wasn't all bad for the economy. The article is worth reading:
    https://factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/
  • W-4R Experience
    Feds have 20% MANDATORY tax w/h from 401k/403b EXCEPT for direct-rollovers/transfers. So, any amount withdrawn from 401k/403b for any other purpose (for RMDs, expenses, even manual rollovers) will have 20% fed tax w/h. The option via W-4R is to INCREASE w/h, but not to reduce or skip (permissible for T-IRAs).
  • AAII Sentiment Survey, 6/28/23
    AAII Sentiment Survey, 6/28/23
    Bullish remained the top sentiment (41.9%; above average) & bearish remained the bottom sentiment (27.5%; below average); neutral remained the middle sentiment (30.6%; below average); Bull-Bear Spread was +14.4% (above average). Investor concerns: Inflation (moderating but high); economy; the Fed; dollar; crypto regulations; market volatility (VIX, VXN, MOVE); Russia-Ukraine war (70+ weeks, 2/24/22- ); geopolitical. For the Survey week (Th-Wed), stocks were mixed, bonds up, oil down, gold down, dollar up. All 23 big banks passed the Fed Stress Tests. #AAII #Sentiment #Markets
    https://ybbpersonalfinance.proboards.com/post/1088/thread
  • Larry Summers and the Crisis of Economic Orthodoxy
    The links I provided had the decades of those numbers. But if you’re serious about looking at economic performance instead of anecdotes, here’s a detailed look: https://factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/
  • W-4R Experience
    Hi @yogibearbull Thank you for this interesting infomation.
    but not for 401k/403b. Then, the rules may require estimated tax payment in the relevant quarterly period.
    I/we may be having dinner with a retired teacher tomorrow. I don't know whether she rolled her 403b to a T-IRA, but if not; she required to set a percentage of her RMD that is taxed? Do I understand this correctly??? What if she takes her RMD in December for the whole year, non-periodic? I know she doesn't need the money through the year.
    Our house takes RMD's from T-IRA's in December and we play with how much FED and STATE tax we want removed depending on our estimate of how much we will owe from taxable sources through the tax year. Our goal is to be about even in taxes paid versus taxes owed.
    AND I hope the stinky air in your area is getting better. The air in mid-Michigan again today has a very strange taste and smell. Definitely not an outside work day. The smell is a bit inside our house today. The smoke is supposed to start to leave for awhile sometime Thursday.
    Thank you.
    Catch
  • Larry Summers and the Crisis of Economic Orthodoxy
    Real wages are still higher than they were in three out of the four years of the previous administration prior to the Covid outbreak, and it's false to say every month. They just started to rise this year:
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q
    Meanwhile, the 3.7% unemployment rate is close to an all-time low:
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE
    It's funny how 2 people look at the same numbers https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q and come up with different opinions.
    The biggest wage increase since 1980 happened during Trump which reached the highest point. Covid brought it down and the current administration is far from the peak.
    Here are the numbers based on the stlouisfed chart. During the Trump years: Q4/2016=349....Q2/2020=393 (that is 12.6% real wage increase in just 3.5 years). Trump finished in Q4/2020=377. There is nobody else that came close to a 12.6% real wage increase. Since 1980 the second biggest increase during any other presidency was about 5%.
    The last number from Q1/2023=263 is still far from the top. This is after trillions of support and a waste of money for the next generation.