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  • Replacing PMEFX
    PMAIX / PMFYX - 35% Equities, 50% Bonds another 5% Converitibles and 5% Preferreds. Its a global moderate allocation fund.
    In 2018, it lost -6%...it's only down year in the past decade (2022 was a wash).
  • This Day in Markets History
    I remember that well. We had bought some 14.5% Municipals out of Utah to finance a large power plant installation over at the Four Corners where Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, and Utah meet. I figured that we could trust the Mormons on that one.
    We did really well on that, until a few years later when inflation was more or less under control and the bonds were called.
    It wasn't until many years later that we understood what those coal-fired power plants were doing to the world. I believe that they are now decommissioned.
  • Peter Lynch with Joshua Brown
    I try to remind myself of these fees each time I am offered a "free" steak dinner from these wealth management companies.
    In my world, management fees would only be allowed on positive performance (the gains), not the initial investment amount (the principal).
    For example, If I give you $10K to invest and that investment becomes $11K in a year, I am willing to pay you 1% on the gain (1% of $1K or $10), not 1% on the entire $11K.
    You helped me make $1K... I brought you $10K.
    Conversely, If you lost money for me that year, you get $0 fee.
    Or even better, how about you pay me 1% of AUM in the years when my portfolio had negative returns. We are a team, right? If "we do better when you do better" is true, than how about "we both do worse when you suffer a loss (do worse)".
    In terms of retirement Safe Withdrawal Rate (SWR) of say 4%, a typical 1% management fee equates to 25% of that SWR (1% of the 4%). That a significant reduction in retirement income.
    I'll take that steak dinner to go please!
    Yeah, well said!
    Maybe I am just a cheapskate, but I am not paying for anything that I can do myself, that doesn't involve a septic tank.
    A free steak is not worth hours of my time and enduring a sales pitch.
  • Peter Lynch with Joshua Brown
    bee said:
    In my world, management fees would only be allowed on positive performance (the gains), not the initial investment amount (the principal).

    Are you referring to the asset management fee in wealth management that brokerages offer ?

    Exactly...We should share in the gains we made together, not the assets I brought you. In real estate its called ROI (Return on Investment).
    That reminds me of a futures trading system firm years ago that approached me through my broker about helping seeding their new strategy and then potentially recommending it The offered a typical 2-and-20 which I laughed and said if I was fronting the money, I shouldn't be paying you ANYTHING beyond transaction costs. We haggled and I got them down to .50-and-zero but by that time I was feeling like a potential chump and decided not to play in the end. Probably made the right move, since I never saw them again anywhere. :)
  • America needs to get SERIOUS !!! about China's tech rise dominance. Cranial/Rectal inversion in D.C.
    @Old_Joe
    China's current consumption of coal ranks 12th per capitia. They are the number 1 user of coal in the world by weight, an astounding 50% share of the world coal usage. Another way of saying this, "China is half of the dirty coal problem...the rest of the world is the other half."
    https://worldometers.info/coal/coal-consumption-by-country/
    Lets look at current air quality stats, Real Time Air quality statistics:
    China:
    https://aqicn.org/map/china/
    US:
    https://aqicn.org/map/usa/
    and,
    worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/air-quality-by-state
    Let's look at how the US and China produce energy by input fuels:
    China:
    China's primary input fuel for energy is coal, which accounted for about 58% of its total energy consumption in 2019
    eia.gov/international/content/analysis/countries_long/China
    US:
    https://eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/
    Regarding Dire Real Estate Challenges in China (from the same news source (CNN) that @Catch22 sited):
    what matters the most is that Beijing has taken the bold initiative, which will help stabilize expectations.
    Taking a long-term perspective, the plan could reduce the risk of China sliding into a “deflationary spiral” like Japan did, as a key lesson from there is that policy makers should avoid doing too little, too late, they said.
    “[This might be] the beginning of the end of China’s housing crisis,”
    economy/china-property-crisis-stimulus-challenges-intl-hnk
  • Nasdaq Seeks to Tighten Listing Standards
    Since the start of 2024 there have been many penny-stock IPOs — often defined as IPOs priced below $5.
    Through Sept. 30 of this year, there were 164 of them on U.S. exchanges including 147 on Nasdaq.
    According to Jay Ritter, a University of Florida finance professor emeritus,
    106 penny-stock IPOs were brought to market from 2001 to 2023.
    "Last month’s initial public offerings included a Cayman Islands-incorporated provider
    of shrimp-farm maintenance services in Malaysia with only four employees.
    The IPO by Megan Holdings priced at $4 a share and raised $5 million."

    "There has been a flood of similar microcap IPOs over the past two years,
    a sign of the speculative fever gripping many parts of the investing world.
    These stocks often lure in everyday investors before they tumble.
    Some have produced eye-popping gains following announcements
    related to a name change, cryptocurrencies or artificial intelligence."

    "Nasdaq has promised to clean up its act and on Sept. 3 asked the Securities and Exchange Commission
    for permission to tighten its listing standards, especially for small Chinese stocks.
    This followed criticism by investors and lawmakers that such listings have become breeding grounds
    for scams and manipulation."

    https://marketsam.cmail20.com/t/d-e-gejykl-duklntldl-r/
  • Peter Lynch with Joshua Brown
    I try to remind myself of these fees each time I am offered a "free" steak dinner from these wealth management companies.
    In my world, management fees would only be allowed on positive performance (the gains), not the initial investment amount (the principal).
    For example, If I give you $10K to invest and that investment becomes $11K in a year, I am willing to pay you 1% on the gain (1% of $1K or $10), not 1% on the entire $11K.
    You helped me make $1K... I brought you $10K.
    Conversely, If you lost money for me that year, you get $0 fee.
    Or even better, how about you pay me 1% of AUM in the years when my portfolio had negative returns. We are a team, right? If "we do better when you do better" is true, than how about "we both do worse when you suffer a loss (do worse)".
    In terms of retirement Safe Withdrawal Rate (SWR) of say 4%, a typical 1% management fee equates to 25% of that SWR (1% of the 4%). That a significant reduction in retirement income.
    I'll take that steak dinner to go please!
  • America needs to get SERIOUS !!! about China's tech rise dominance. Cranial/Rectal inversion in D.C.
    Not seeing this from the articles I read. China is reeling, not rising. From high unemployment rates to overbuilt and overprice real estate to government stimulus that directly keeps the party going.
    Here are a few reads I found revealing:
    China in Charts:
    the-chinese-economys-moment-of-macro-weakness-in-charts/
    Government Stimulus and The China's Economic Impulse:
    https://libertystreeteconomics.newyorkfed.org/2025/04/gauging-the-strength-of-chinas-economy-in-uncertain-times/
    Problem- The Chinese Real Estate Sector and Chinese Wealth Effect:
    insights_understanding_china
    China economy: Finding a cyclical floor amid a structural downturn:
    https://oxfordeconomics.com/china-economy/
  • Replacing PMEFX
    As noted in this month’s issue, PMEFX is shutting down next month. M* labels it a Moderately Conservative Allocation fund while Lipper labels it a Mixed-Asset Target Allocation Growth.
    As @DavidSnowball noted in the May 2024 issue (as prodded by @shipwreckedandalone), it was, at the time, outperforming the Lipper averages for conservative and moderate allocation funds as well as VWINX.
    I’ve been a fan of the managers’ approach since they managed the old Berwyn Income fund and am now looking for something with similar risk-adjusted performance and downside protection to fill that slot in my portfolio.
  • 2025 Capital Gain distribution estimates
    I emailed David already about pinning the 2025 CG link to the top/near top of the page, so it is easier to find.
  • Anyone a holder or potential buyer of OTIS?
    Not sure how many know that M* does a lot of stock analysis. I’m a subscriber. Little experience however using their metrics. FWIW they are favorably disposed toward OTIS and have a fair value of $106, substantially above its recent close.
    Baron’s has highlighted the company in at least one piece over the past year and is also favorably inclined. Their August 14, 2025 article is headlined: ”Otis Worldwide Stock Is Set to Get a Lift - The elevator company is poised to benefit from increased demand, thanks to a building boom in China, South Korea and India”
    I have had pretty good success with Baron’s recommendations, but much patience needed. Sometimes takes years for their assessment to play out. Easy to get frustrated.
    I usually look at Zack’s. They have OTIS rated a 3 (hold). They rate it C for momentum but D for both growth and value. Compared to the industry they have it in the upper 20%. I’m often puzzled by their ratings. I think they tend to be near-term thinkers.
    Appreciate your response. Totally agree with what you stated. Given our current Orange President, I’m not sure how our companies are going to do business in China. He is really forcing countries to become more detached from the U.S., which will spur the growth of Chinese businesses to replace ours in China. That is a growth concern for U.S. multinationals.
  • Anyone a holder or potential buyer of OTIS?
    Not sure how many know that M* does a lot of stock analysis. I’m a subscriber. Little experience however using their metrics. FWIW they are favorably disposed toward OTIS and have a fair value of $106, substantially above its recent close.
    Baron’s has highlighted the company in at least one piece over the past year and is also favorably inclined. Their August 14, 2025 article is headlined: ”Otis Worldwide Stock Is Set to Get a Lift - The elevator company is poised to benefit from increased demand, thanks to a building boom in China, South Korea and India”
    I have had pretty good success with Baron’s recommendations, but much patience needed. Sometimes takes years for their assessment to play out. Easy to get frustrated.
    I usually look at Zack’s. They have OTIS rated a 3 (hold). They rate it C for momentum but D for both growth and value. Compared to the industry they have it in the upper 20%. I’m often puzzled by their ratings. I think they tend to be near-term thinkers.
  • America needs to get SERIOUS !!! about China's tech rise dominance. Cranial/Rectal inversion in D.C.
    This short summary presentation underscores and defines what many of us already understand about the continuing policy fails of the current administration and the ongoing misdirection(s), and global impacts. China's 'Belt and Road' program is still in place, and is very happy and healthy.
    CNN, America needs to get SERIOUS !!!
    Fareed Sakaria, 6 minute video, October 5, 2025 after a short AD. CC available, but was set for the link.
  • Anyone a holder or potential buyer of OTIS?
    I like to use StockRover. They're calling it a HOLD, currently. Their call is for 8.65% upside to target share price. (1 year.) P/E is 24.2 and that's already too rich for my blood. A solid company that's been around forever, you're right. I like the beta, at just 0.47. Maybe wait for the expected fall in the Market generally? The EPS Predictability and Cash Flow Predictability numbers are stellar. Over the past 5 years, the company's own P/E is at a rather reduced point, though 24.2 is still higher than I'd be willing to pay. The dividend yield is 1.8% and so it's just too little for me to go for. But if dividends are not a priority for you, that just won't matter; it will feel like a bonus when it comes. Payout ratio is 41.7, so that's sustainable. ...You can always dollar-cost-average your way in, in small steps, on a regular basis. Break a leg!
    Never heard of that stock analysis website. I typically use Value Line and Morningstar. Recently, I’ve been looking at OTIS, AOS, MKL, CB, and AWK. The last one currently looks the least interesting.
  • E-File's 2025 Tax Calculator & Vanguard's Roth Conversion Calculator
    These calculators were shared this week by Rob Berger. Seemed worth sharing.
    This Tax Return and Refund Estimator is for tax year 2025 and currently based on 2024/2025 tax year tax tables. As soon as new 2025 relevant tax year data has been released, the tool will the updated accordingly.
    efile.com/tax-return-calculator-for-2025-refund-estimator
    Here's Vanguard Roth Conversion Calculator:
    Conventional wisdom states that if you expect your client’s future tax rate to be lower than their current tax rate, it would not make sense to do a Roth conversion. However, Vanguard research shows that you should consider additional factors to determine a “break-even tax rate” which will help you decide whether or not to convert your client’s traditional IRA to a Roth IRA or traditional 401(k) to a Roth 401(k).
    vanguard.com/tax-center/tools/roth-betr-calculator
    2025 Tax & Retirement Contribution Guide:
    https://advisors.vanguard.com/content/dam/fas/pdfs/FATXGD10.pdf
    *Vanguard's link seems to be missing the saver's credit...here's info is:
    savers-tax-credit-2025.pdf
  • Alternatives to core bond funds
    @FD1000. Big agreement with you here. The entire portfolio is THE THING. I call it paying attention to a “single metric “. I record the portfolio balance on 12/31/. Everything else is noise. I admit I listen to the noise at too high a volume and too often. But I try to pay attention to my single metric. And I use a benchmark that corresponds with my general asset allocation.
    I do that, too: record my year-end total, so I can watch and compare the next year's growth (or not, if I've been stoopid.) KISS it. I'm down to 9 positions, and in terms of size, 1 of them is like an afterthought. That 9 positions includes Cash. 5 funds and 3 single stocks.
    Don't wanna end up like Moonlight Graham, who got called up to The Show, but never got to bat. I'd rather make my own mistakes, particularly since I know some stuff by now, unlike when I first began investing. Like Annie Savoy told Crash Davis: "young men are uncomplicated." That's the way I like the portfolio. Uncomplicated.
    P.S. I just discovered that a couple of the prospects I'd been watching (ADRs) are traded OTC and would come with a commission, if I bought. I'm not buying.
  • Anyone a holder or potential buyer of OTIS?
    I like to use StockRover. They're calling it a HOLD, currently. Their call is for 8.65% upside to target share price. (1 year.) P/E is 24.2 and that's already too rich for my blood. A solid company that's been around forever, you're right. I like the beta, at just 0.47. Maybe wait for the expected fall in the Market generally? The EPS Predictability and Cash Flow Predictability numbers are stellar. Over the past 5 years, the company's own P/E is at a rather reduced point, though 24.2 is still higher than I'd be willing to pay. The dividend yield is 1.8% and so it's just too little for me to go for. But if dividends are not a priority for you, that just won't matter; it will feel like a bonus when it comes. Payout ratio is 41.7, so that's sustainable. ...You can always dollar-cost-average your way in, in small steps, on a regular basis. Break a leg!
  • Alternatives to core bond funds
    I don't believe in portfolio sleeves or core bond funds at all. I am oversimplifying it but I think in terms of high volatility and low volatility.
    Loosely, below is how I screen and pick
    - Funds with volatility below 5% and returns above 10%. If I don't get matches, I loosen the selection criteria.
    - Review the investment strategy, track record, managers, current macro, projected macro, etc.. and pick or discard.
    - Same as above for high vol where vol is below 20% and returns a few points higher than a selected benchmark (the benchmark will vary, examples include SPY, VT, etc..). The main idea is that an active fund should be worth picking over a passive fund
    - I generally stay away from sector, buffered, single intl country, crypto, EM debt.
    - Overall my goal is to have a balanced mix of high octane funds (AVALX for example) and hedges (QDSIX, QMNIX, QLEIX, EGRIX for example)
    - MFOP hands down is the best screener out there (and I have used a few dozen) but intra month I rely on barchart.com (limited screening functionality but performance is updated daily)
    - At this moment my favored hedge is EGRIX and I am looking at scaling into AVALX, AVDV, FPADX, QNZIX.