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Ukraine Peace?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/25/ukraine-russia-peace-trump-abu-dhabi.html

I fear Zelenskyy and Ukraine are being pushed to accept a stinky deal. We shall see. Where are the Europeans? Strategically quiet today?

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  • Whatever peace deal is presented will be of no good or value as long as Ukraine is left out of the process. How is that even acceptable or justified. Besides, if the so called deal is packaged neither buttkin or trump can be expected to stand behind it. Deals from those 2 are for suckers.
  • edited November 25
    European are excluded from the discussion. It is highly likely that many of Putin’s demand is in this deal. How to rebuild Ukraine post-war with so much damages?
  • edited November 25
    ...I do believe I heard it reported that the 28-point deal--- which was in effect the Russian wish-list--- is down to 19 points, and that Ukraine and the Europeans consulted together to put it together. Now let's see the reaction from Vladimir the Wet Fart. Trump is a Russian asset. He's going to raise no objections about anything favorable toward Russia, like taking and keeping land that belongs to Ukraine in the Donbas.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/11/25/live-5-killed-in-kyiv-rostov-as-russia-ukraine-carry-out-attacks
  • edited November 25
    (...Stupid thing refuses to be copied-and-pasted.)
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