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Has the World Lost Faith in Capitalism? -- The Wall Street Journal

"A new survey suggests that restoring confidence in free enterprise will mean ensuring that the same rules apply to everyone"

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"If you want to find people who still believe in “the American dream”—the magnetic idea that anyone can build a better life for themselves and their families, regardless of circumstance—you might be best advised to travel to Mumbai. Half of the Indians in a recent poll agreed that “the next generation will probably be richer, safer and healthier than the last.”...The percentage of optimists drops to 42 in Thailand, 39 in Indonesia, 29 in Brazil, 19 in the U.K. and 15 in Germany. But it isn’t old-world Britain or Germany that is gloomiest about the future. It is new-world America, where only 14% of those surveyed think that life will be better for their children..."

See: WSJ

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  • There won't be much faith in capitalism in any country that can't provide good paying jobs with benefits. Globalization is killing the American Dream for those who can't find an opportunity to earn a good living.
  • Residents of Mumbai can afford to be more optimistic ---many of them hold 'American jobs' (i.e. jobs servicing the American economy) which formerly were, and properly should be held by Americans. I speak/correspond to/with them with ever-increasing frequency in my 'day-job'.

    More generally, India does seem to be on a path of national economic development -- the result of which is a broadening and betterment of the Indian middle-class. So there is an expectation that the trajectory is 'up' (in a very general sense) -- even for those still mired in poverty there.

    Here in the USA, the economic principals (major corporations, the authorities) are mostly concerned with asset-stripping the US. Extracting equity (financial engineering) cost-reducing (offshoring jobs, moving to a contracted workforce, importing Hb1 visa-holders, etc. etc.), and mass migration of low-skilled workers to compete-down the prevailing wage levels here. Some of these trends enshrined into law by trade deals over the past 40 years. None of these secular trends is conducive to improving the middle-class here. -- As evidenced by a growing GDP topline number -- but one where an ever increasing share of the income "pie" goes to the top 10% 5% and 1%, at the expense of the rest of us.

    For those overwhelming number of Americans without substantial investments, the trajectory (albeit from a much higher level than a typical Indian) is "down". These folks DO have 'faith' that the brand of capitalism as currently practiced here in the USA will continue to worsen their, and their children's live, pushing their living standards into equilibrium with emerging market populations.

  • “Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of motives will somehow work for the benefit of all.” attributed to John Maynard Keynes

    I do not interpret this as a definition, rather it is what can go wrong with capitalism. There are good companies, Costco and Trader Joe’s come to mind, implying that not all capitalist men are nasty. The following link explains the origins of the quote:

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  • edited November 2015
    Generally speaking, the more commoditized an industry is with razor-thin profit margins, the nastier it will be to its employees, consumers and the environment. Competition forces executives to cut corners to survive in such industries so there is an enforced cruelty and nice guys are driven out of business. By contrast, the less commoditized the industry and the wider the profit margins, the nicer an employer can be if it chooses. That's why we keep hearing how some tech or healthcare companies are the "nicest places to work." Meanwhile, if you work in the, say, garment industry for low-end retail consumers, there's a strong likelihood some of your employees are in sweatshops.

    This is why it is crucial for America to train its workforce for high skilled jobs and encourage the development of high-skilled industries here with high profit margins. That's the German/Swiss/Swedish model. Instead we subsidize low-skilled fast food industry jobs with cheap corn for feed stock and minimum wages so low that workers end up on food stamps payed for by the government. Essentially a McDonald's employee is really a government one today. Nor is this to say that all "wide moat" highly profitable companies are good corporate stewards to consumers, labor and the environment. It's just that they can be if they choose to. Some choose not to and deserved to be penalized by regulators and shunned by consumers.
  • "Instead we subsidize low-skilled fast food industry jobs with cheap corn for feed stock and minimum wages so low that workers end up on food stamps payed for by the government. Essentially a McDonald's employee is really a government one today."

    Wow! Just wow. I would love to see the data that supports that. Not really, but it had to be one heck of a long road you travelled to end up with that conclusion.
  • edited November 2015
    Edmond said:



    Here in the USA, the economic principals (major corporations, the authorities) are mostly concerned with asset-stripping the US. Extracting equity (financial engineering) cost-reducing (offshoring jobs, moving to a contracted workforce, importing Hb1 visa-holders, etc. etc.), and mass migration of low-skilled workers to compete-down the prevailing wage levels here. Some of these trends enshrined into law by trade deals over the past 40 years. None of these secular trends is conducive to improving the middle-class here. -- As evidenced by a growing GDP topline number -- but one where an ever increasing share of the income "pie" goes to the top 10% 5% and 1%, at the expense of the rest of us.


    Hi Edmond,

    I wonder about the portion of your comment I repeated above. Its my sense that comparative and absolute advantage combined with the waving of Adam Smith's invisible hand provide the opportunity for nations engaged in trade to have a higher combined GDP and higher individual GDPs with trade than they would enjoy without trade. Your post suggests you think the trade deals over the past 40 years may have resulted in the US middle class having a lower absolute standard of living than it would have enjoyed in the absence of those trade deals (even though the absolute size of the GDP pot within the US may have increased as a result of those trade deals). My general reading about those deals does not suggest to me the middle class has suffered more with those deals than it would have without them: i.e. combined savings in the aggregate costs of goods and services by US middle class consumers have -- by my reckoning -- probably more than offset any aggregate downward pressure on middle class wages and benefits directly attributable to those trade deals.

    Its my sense better enforcement of existing laws, executive orders, tax codes and other regulations, making targeted changes in those areas, and implementing targeted increases in federal spending on retraining of displaced workers, R&D, infrastructure, etc. have the best chances of helping to re-balance the distribution of the domestic GDP pie to the favor of the middle class. Or, perhaps those things combined with "somehow" gradually moving the US corporate mindset more in the direction of the "good corporate steward" model that was discussed by LewisBraham above.

    I am wondering: Do you think that less trade is presently part of the answer? Do you think that the trade negotiators have just gotten off track with their negotiation strategies? Or ???

    Thanks.

    David
  • Lewis, I know of the problems associated with minimum wages and of the crop subsidies. They're real. But I also believe that tying them together to make your statement or point is a stretch. It works but it's still a stretch.
  • @Mark- I do know that at least some full-time employees of the Safeway in Guerneville CA qualify for food stamps. I certainly regard them as part-time government employees. But it seems to me that we are going to subsidize workers in those kinds of jobs one way or the other- either by significantly higher prices for certain kinds of products, or indirectly via the government.

    If retail prices are raised to the point that low-end employers pay their employees adequately, those very price increases will only make it more difficult for their low-income customers to afford to live. Seems like a vicious circle- maybe it's better the way that it is?
  • Perhaps we should consider food stamps as a subsidy to businesses so they can pay their employees lower wages.
  • @OldJoe, You're assuming that increasing the minimum wage by a certain amount requires an equal increase in the price of the goods those workers produce. But minimum wage labor is often a small part of the overall cost of production. In the case of fast food, one study found that doubling the minimum wage to $15 would only cause a 4.3% increase in fast food prices: marketwatch.com/story/raising-fast-food-hourly-wages-to-15-would-raise-prices-by-4-study-finds-2015-07-28
    So the idea that minimum wage increases are a zero sum gain is misguided.
  • edited November 2015
    Yes, that's exactly my point. And since Walmart and the fast-food industry provide product to many customers with low-paying jobs, this subsidization allows those retailers to maintain a lower price structure, indirectly benefiting those low-income customers. This stuff gets really complicated when you start taking a hard look at the whole thing. Probably some part of it is due to the law of unintended consequences.
  • edited November 2015
    Old_Joe - I'm of the opinion that anyone working a 40-hr a week job should be paid enough to enjoy a decent (note, not necessarily the best) standard of living along with a 401k plan and adequate healthcare without having to rely on government programs. If CEO's have to give up a few million of their outrageous salaries in order to facilitate this or companies have to actually pay the taxes they owe without shipping income, profits or jobs overseas well boo-hoo.

    And never forget that we are the government. The collective 'we' just doesn't have enough money to influence our representatives to change the laws or systems (see above).
  • @Mark- Yessir, I completely agree with you with respect as to what should be. Unfortunately, that ain't what we got here... just sayin'.
  • I keep saying, no one listens. We are not a capitalistic society. We are an objectivist society. And the a-holes have been selling it down our throats as capitalism and robbing us blind, and by branding every attempt at criticizing them as "socialistic", and pretty soon I'm sure they will downright start using "communism".
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