Perhaps the clocks Hussman uses are engineered such that they finally work well again (they did for a while in the past). It's worth considering. Will look into HSAFX some more. Thanks for bringing it up......

Good Morning Class,
I'm thinking when we look back at the "markets" (casino?) at the end of the year, we're going to realize that in late January we were facing a very binary outcome...either the majority of us get the jab in the arm (key could be JNJ vaccine (?), there is a antidote by Merck or with the new admin, taxes go up, regulations go up, socialistic spending ramps up and markets (casino?) craters....look at the nonsense with GME Gamestop...you wanna put your life savings into this sheet show?
so...
1) Is it time for Hussman, HSGFX or HSAFX...go ahead and call me crazee but don't call me Shirley but I'm going to step into the Huss with a noticeable investment today.
2) Is it time for high grade rubies? I recall a passionate discussion during the "Financial Crisis" (housing bubble scam) with my CFO and others by the water cooler how you could shove a million dollars of high grade rubies in your sock and no one would know they were there...shared stories from my Grandma how her wealth was confiscated by the democratic socialists under Tito...she was lucky to escape with her life as they usually popped the wealthy
I recall The Gundlach stated he "likes real assets that he can put in the trunk of his car" (paraphrasing)
3) On the other half, I'm thinking the markets might be up 30-40% if the vaccines take effect, we don't have the nutty tweeties anymore and things calm down, economy and jobs pick up etc..so slowly adding to ARTTX on down days
4) I'd rather myself play the "bro-investor" approach by buying stocks like Penn Gaming than Bitcoin...
Like I said, binary, place your bets? Of course, posting for entertainment purposes only, I have no idea what will happen this year, etc.
Best and good health to all,
Baseball Fan

The correct link:
https://www.financial-planning.com/news/moving-money-from-ira-to-hsa-the-only-time-it-makes-sense
As the article says, unless you're cash strapped and have medical costs exceeding what's in your HSA (plus taxable cash) is this worth considering.

Funding your HSA with your IRA :

A little-known rule buried deep on the IRS website presents a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for clients with a health savings account — the ability to make a contribution directly from an IRA.
Although this one-time offer isn’t worth the effort for most clients, who’d be better off continuing to fund both accounts and collect dual tax breaks for doing so, there are a handful of situations where cash-strapped clients with high medical costs could really benefit from making the move and tapping tax- and penalty-free funds.

moving-money-from-ira-to-hsa-the-only-time-it-makes-sense

Fidelity continues to stand out as the best HSA for investing
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On Friday, finally took profits on 7 year holding PRHSX Performance has lagged and Sharpe Ratio slumped since superstar Kris Jenner left. Will slowly redeploy assets into SHSAX FSPHX and XLV over following weeks.

My sentiments exactly. By year-end I will have DCA'd well over the amount needed to convert the shares to lower-priced PRILX.
The only hiccup I had with them was that they held onto scandal-plagued WFC for too long as its largest holding - I sold out on principle back then, and bought it back for my Roth IRA the day I learned they closed the position.

I really like the Parnassus Core Equity Fund for the following reasons:
• Long-tenured managers (start dates of 2001 and 2012) who have over $1M invested in the fund
• Good downside protection
• Moderate turnover for an actively managed fund
• Portfolio is not overly diworsified (39 holdings as of 06/30/20)
• Good long-term performance
My HSA is invested entirely in PRILX.

I really like the Parnassus Core Equity Fund for the following reasons:
• Long-tenured managers (start dates of 2001 and 2012) who have over $1M invested in the fund
• Good downside protection
• Moderate turnover for an actively managed fund
• Portfolio is not overly diworsified (39 holdings as of 06/30/20)
• Good long-term performance
My HSA is invested entirely in PRILX.

I've owned Parnassus Core Equity Institutional (PRILX) in my HSA for several years. The fund's performance (especially during downturns), low costs (for an active fund), and experienced long-term management team influenced my investment decision. ESG characteristics were not my primary focus although I certainly appreciate companies that behave responsibly in the environmental and social realms.

Both spouse and I have inherited IRAs. I have stopped the RMD for mine. (Thanks for reminding me to make a note in her calendar).
I had intended to fund a HSA with that RMD. Now I plan to do that next year.

Actually it's being under reported worldwide IMHO -- look at this link and look at "expected deaths" and covid19 reported deaths. Interesting. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/covid19datatrackingcovid19excessdeathsacrosscountriesgraphicdetail

There are many different features that lead someone to prefer one financial institution over another. I came up with a number of relatively minor features that I personally place some value in. Haven't found a single perfect institution though. YMMV.
- individual 401(k): free, Roth option, in-service distributions, investment options (full brokerage or house funds). See The College Investor for other features and major providers. Some brokerages provide Roth options; Fidelity and Schwab do not. Vanguard and T. Rowe Price do provide a Roth option, but limit investments to house funds.
- Retail HSA account (not through employer): free, no min cash balance required to invest. Fidelity is the only brokerage I know of that offers HSA accounts directly. Lively (an HSA provider) gives you a brokerage window to TD Ameritrade. See The HSA Report Card for detailed analyses of HSA providers.
- Cash management (bank) services: bill pay, checking, good interest (relatively speaking), ATM access. Vanguard has high interest and checking, but no bill pay or ATM card. At Vanguard and Fidelity, if your core account does not have enough cash to cover a check, they can automatically draw from another (higher yielding) MMF. Many brokerages other than Vanguard provide bill pay and ATM access with surcharge rebates. These features are not so important if you employ a regular bank account.
Schwab's ATM card charges no foreign (international) transaction fee; Fidelity's sometimes charges a 1% fee. Others tend to charge at least this much and may limit surcharge rebates to US ATMs.
- Fractional share purchases of stocks/ETFs (e.g. $100 exactly of MINT). This is something Schwab promised. AFAIK only Fidelity has delivered. (Robinhood rolled out fractional shares earlier this month but it doesn't support limit orders.) Fractional shares is the only "yet to use" feature on my list. It should make buying ETFs easier - more like mutual funds.
- Donor advised funds:low min to open, low grant min, low maintenance cost, low cost funds, wide variety of funds. T. Rowe Price seems to have the lowest "all in" (admin + fund expenses) cost for actively managed funds, but not lowest if using index funds. Fidelity and Schwab have the lowest mins and are low cost. Fidelity has a small advantage on fund costs and variety of funds. Not that one needs many funds for this type of account. It's convenient if the DAF account is with your brokerage as that makes contributing easier.
This list of 74 DAFs is about a decade old, but still gives a good sense of costs and what's out there.

Off-topic, but HSA contributions and earnings aren't tax deductible in CA (and AFAIK NJ).

Not déductible on state income in some states, but federally deductible in all.
https://irs.gov/publications/p969
State Info:
https://thehsareportcard.com/the-hsa-report-card-1/2017/12/2/any-bank-basiconlinecom

Off-topic, but HSA contributions and earnings aren't [state] tax deductible in CA (and AFAIK NJ).
[Thanks, @bee]

@bee Sorry if I'm being dense. My wife has an HSA through her employer. I understand contributions are tax deferred and I also understand it converts to IRA after you retire, or if you lose your job. What I didn't know however is you can invest it right away. First, will find out if the HSA is even invested is some fund at her employer plan. Second, if possible to divert funds into external fund.
However, most important question. Isn't investing it risky? I mean what if fund tanks right about the time you need to pay doctor and you run out of cash? For us, HSA just started last year and we used a bit of it of course already, so not much there at this time.

We have had many thorough conversations here at MFO. Here's what I searched:
https://mutualfundobserver.com/discuss/search?Search=HSA
Just a few points I have gathered about how an HSA works:
HSA is triple tax advantage. Tax deductible when contributed (you have many contribution options...including mutual funds...Fidelity seems to be providing a great platform for HSA investment options).
HSA's grow tax deferred. If used after 65 for non-medical withdrawals you will pay taxes in the year you make those withdrawals much like an deferred IRA. There is a 10% penalty for non-medical withdrawals prior to 65. There is no actual RMDs, but if you plan on reimbursing yourself later don't leave tax free withdrawals on the table forever...HSA withdrawal rules change for beneficiaries after you die.
Medically qualified withdrawals are always tax free at anytime and withdrawals can be reimbursable at a later point in time (this could be many years later) if you pay out of pocket instead of your HSA. Keep track of medical qualified expenses for these reimbursements. Keep track of what you have already paid for and what you plan on being reimbursed for. Make a spreadsheet...save records.
Inheritable HSA provisions are completely transferable to your spouse as a Spousal HSA. If your beneficiary is a spouse it continues to have tax-free withdrawal status. A non-spouse inherits an HSA much like an Inherited IRA (taxable)...Inherited HSA. If your beneficiaries are non- spouse(s) make sure you reimburse yourself before you pass. In this manner you have made a tax free withdrawal (your withdrawal is tax free while alive). Even if you don't need this withdrawal you can at least pass it tax free to beneficiaries.

@kings53man, I have been retired for more than five years and I may use my HSA to cover medical, dental, eye, prescription meds and most recently over the counter meds not covered by my Medicare PPO.

HSA doesn't convert to IRA after retirement. You can save all receipts and withdraw money from HSA account whenever you want. My employer HSA is with Fidelity and they allows us to invest anyway I want so I let the investment ride. No tax payment on withdrawal as long as you spend on deductible and vision expenses. I think recently the changes were passed where you can also use for OTC drugs (please confirm).

@bee Sorry if I'm being dense. My wife has an HSA through her employer. I understand contributions are tax deferred and I also understand it converts to IRA after you retire, or if you lose your job. What I didn't know however is you can invest it right away. First, will find out if the HSA is even invested is some fund at her employer plan. Second, if possible to divert funds into external fund.
However, most important question. Isn't investing it risky? I mean what if fund tanks right about the time you need to pay doctor and you run out of cash? For us, HSA just started last year and we used a bit of it of course already, so not much there at this time.

@bee can you please how you able to invest our HSA in BRUFX???

I simply set up an HSA account with Bruce Fund...I believe this was a paper application through the mail. I use my bank accounts billpay service to make month contributions electronically.
There website is spartan, but functions simply. No cash position. I am always invested 100% in BRUFX. I will eventually open another HSA with Fidelity where I can widen my fund choices and hold near cash.
I have done withdrawals from BRUFX for medical reimbursements, but I do this very in frequently. I consider the fund my Long Term Care policy which will hopefully fund / offset much of my healthcare costs in retirement.

@bee can you please how you able to invest our HSA in BRUFX???