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Arguably, even earlier examples (that use an alternative factor: "what you are") include charge cards (the card itself, and your signature as a prehistoric biometric) and passbook bank accounts (the passbook, and your signature or perhaps facial recognition by the banker).This token took the form of a plastic card with holes punched in it. The patent documents proposed a system incorporating a card reader and buttons mounted in an external wall of the bank, and stated: “When the customer wishes to withdraw a pack of banknotes from the system he simply inserts his punched card in the card reader of the system, and operates the set of 10 push-buttons in accordance with his personal identification number.” Aside from the cards with punched holes, that pretty much describes today’s ATM.
https://cbsnews.com/news/time-bomb-grandparents-529-college-contributions/529 account penalty and financial aid
Families, however, can encounter problems when grandparents withdraw the money to pay for college expenses. The 529 withdrawals must be reported on financial aid applications as the student's income. The financial aidformula assesses student income at a stiff 50 percent.
Here's an example: If the grandmother withdrew $20,000 from a 529, that money would be assessed at 50 percent. ($20,000 X 50 percent = $10,000.) The grandmother's withdrawal would reduce the grandchild's chances for need-based financial aid by up to $10,000.
Disabling a 529 financial aid time bomb
One way to disable this financial aid time bomb is for the grandparent to transfer the ownership of a 529 to a parent. Assets in a 529 account owned by the parent are only assessed at 5.64 percent for financial aid purposes. In the case of a $20,000 withdrawal, a potential financial aid award would only shrink by a maximum of $1,128.
Grandparents can avoid any hit to financial aid awards by timing their 529 withdrawals. Ideally a grandparent will wait until after the parents have filed for financial aid for the last time -- in the winter or early spring of the college student's junior year. This would be the last financial aid form the parents file (covering the child's senior year), so the parents and child's finances after that filing would be irrelevant.
Infinite. Attend as many as you want, no problem. They're effectively trying to buy your business. That, to me, is more unethical than attending with little intention of picking up their services.I raised this topic before. It may have been quite some time ago. Perhaps as long ago as the FundAlarm days.
As many of you probably do, I get periodic invites in the mailbox from financial planners. The invite stipulates that the financial planner is having an informational lunch or dinner, and I am invited, if I RSVP in time. No obligations are required. My belief is that, as a Do-It-Yourself'er (DIY) investor, I don't have a need for a financial planner. Or perhaps I am wrong. Perhaps I should attend and will find the services to be of value. And if I do go, is it ethical in this circumstance to attend more than one? How many lunches are reasonable?
If my memory serves me correctly, it was the discussion board's posters, who are financial planners, that thought it was unethical of me to attend, unless I am open to giving serious weight to consider the services of such planners. To their credit, I never did respond back with an RSVP to attend. Their basic objection was that the cost of the lunch comes out of the pocket of the financial planner, and not from the firm that they are employed by.
Usually the invitation is on expensive stationary and is delivered by USPS. Today I received the following email from my credit union.So am I a bad person if I RSVP, because I'm curious. I'll disclose to you that I might be as curious about the restaurant as I am about the informational topic. If okay, how many of these can I attend before I cross a red line in the sand that makes me the moral equivalent of a dictator in the Middle East, not to be named?Register Today! Retirement Planning Lunch & Learn
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Yeah I read that. Now Wells is really going Go Far with their naughtiness.I think that you folks must all be way out of line, because Trump's Mick Mulvaney, current head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, just announced that there's no need to maintain a public record of complaints regarding bankers. Maybe Maurice can weigh in on this one.
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