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  • Emerging Markets Anyone?
    FWIW, not that it's a valid comparison, but since such a comparison was mentioned, our CD ladder with its just below 4% APY, outperformed GQGPX with its 3.4% average annual return over the past 3-yr period.
    ;-)
    It’s good you limited the GQGPX vs CD ladder comparison to 3 years, since at 5 years you’d be facing an 10.68% annualized bogey for GQGPX. So yes, it’s not a valid comparison.
  • Buy Sell Why: ad infinitum.
    "or when line falls"
    That type of automatic shutoff switch has been around for many years. With respect to PG&E here in Northern CA they were set to shut off when sensing abnormal conditions, then automatically retry a couple of times to see if perhaps the problem had cleared. After it was determined that this procedure had resulted in a number of large fires the switches were reprogrammed to shut off as quickly as possible and then stay off until manually reset.
  • Reminder: Don’t forget interest from savings bonds on your tax return!
    I-Bonds can only be bought and sold online through Treasury Direct.
    You can still get paper bonds with your 1040 refund (up to $5,000 per year). But you have to hope that they don't get lost in the mail (one of mine did). Then to cash them in you either have to mail them to TreasuryDirect or try to cash them at a bank.
    Here's Rob Copeland talking with Kai Ryssdal (Marketplace) about the problems he had doing just that.
    "what’s happened over the past few years is a lot of banks are starting to reject [savings bonds]. ... when a bank does that transaction [cashes bonds] for you, they make exactly zero cents. And in many cases, these banks just don’t want to do it anymore."
    https://www.marketplace.org/2023/10/12/got-old-savings-bonds-lying-around-good-luck-cashing-them/
    And the full NYTimes article that Copeland wrote:
    When Did Cashing Savings Bonds Become So Impossible?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/07/business/cashing-savings-bonds.html
  • Reminder: Don’t forget interest from savings bonds on your tax return!
    Most of our very old Savings Bonds have matured. We held then in the paper form and never bothered to convert them into electronic form. So, when we cashed them on maturity at our local bank, we got 1099 from the bank.
    For the new I-Bonds that I bought a couple of years ago, I won't be around when they mature, so my heirs will have to deal with Treasury Direct (TD). (-:)
    Treasury does what it feels like. I think it should also mail 1099 for transactions, i.e. just putting the info on the TD website shouldn't be enough. After all, if one gets locked out of TD, it may be months before the access may be restored. And the semi-public USPS needs more business.
    A few years ago, the SEC fined Gabelli BECAUSE it had posted some info only on its website, and didn't bother to provide that info by mail. After paying the fine, Gabelli now knows better.
    But who would dare to fine Treasury?

    https://www.treasurydirect.gov/1099/
  • Balanced ETF funds that compare to CGBL
    Every fund in my portfolio fills a niche. I have owned the Wellington funds for more than 25 years but WBALX for example has a bond duration of 1.8 yrs vs the almost 7 years in the Wellington funds. Its bond ratings are also higher ,so again it fits the more conservative part of a portfolio.
  • "Investors pile into bitcoin funds"
    IMO Bitcoin is the new forex for retail investors, probably small fries, looking to constantly trade. And I agree w/Balu that once these ETFs came out, it became normalized for the 'EveryWo/Man' and not something only for the rich to play with. But they did legitimize BTC as a trading vehicle ... and perhaps as a *potential* de-worse-ifier for longer-term global investors.
    On the upside, they're more liquid and 'valuable' than NFTs, which were a total scam to begin with.
    I dabbled in some miners a few years ago, played with some free BTC I got when I opened a crypto trading account, but that's the limit of my crypto forray. Woudl I consider COIN as an indirect play like Yogi? Perhaps. Would I invest in BTC directly or hold it via funds? No....don't need it.
  • Bottom Line article: Microcap funds
    And now Franklin Templeton is changing its micro cap value fund to a small-mid cap value fund which I have owned for numerous years. I don't need another small-mid cap value fund so I guess it is time to sell it.
    I used to own Pinnacle Value Fund, but I sold it a couple of years back as well.
  • Bottom Line article: Microcap funds
    @David_Snowball,
    Grateful for the time and effort you took to indulge me.
    The mantras you laid out match my expectations and is consistent with the PVCMX objectives i remember reading in their fund literature, though i never owned it. I know some Absolute Return funds which do not strictly follow the mantra and with losing years. PVFIX and PVCMX seem to ty to strictly follow the mantra and I hope they succeed. I think it is important for us that funds follow their stated objectives, whatever they are.
    I do not pay attention to investor's ridicule. I see myself investing in Absolute Return mandates, and that is the reason why I remember PVCMX. Not PSPTX!
    Thanks, @Old_Joe. Now I know and hopefully I will remember why my search results are always limited.
  • Bottom Line article: Microcap funds
    @Balu: managers of absolute return funds strive to always produce a positive return. Relative return guys want to outperform their benchmark, absolute returns guys want to outperform zero percent.
    Their mantras:
    • "return of principal is more important than return on principal"
    • "the best way to make money is not to lose money"
    • "stocks are worth owning only when stocks are worth owning"
    In consequence they tend to have stick absolute value standards (if their calculation of the internal rate of return does not exceed 15%, say, they won't buy where relative value guys will happily snap up "the best of a bad lot"), often strict portfolio weight rules, and would rather hold cash or cash-like bonds rather than stocks that are irrationally valued.
    In general, you hope that they'll do great in market crashes and great in the first phase of the recovery, knowing that they will more-or-less quickly hit valuation concerns and begin selling down (or selling off) overvalued stocks. The problem for these guys is that the market can remain irrationally frothy for much longer than the average investor can remain patient, so after a couple years of making 15% when everybody else is making 115%, investors abandon them.
    Large firms cannot abide by the thought of money leaving, so almost all absolute return investors work on their own or in boutiques. For lists of such lonely souls, search "dry powder gang" in the main MFO search box. That is, not on the search that looks at the discussion board.
    Does that help?
  • Bottom Line article: Microcap funds
    @David_Snowball,
    Thanks.
    Not to digress but i do not have comprehension of what "Absolute Return" means, though i have seen that term used in fund name and otherwise used in the context of investing.
    "They know The Right Way to invest despite being subject to years of ridicule and redemption." I think you meant "They [think] they know . . ." Fund managers are in the business of providing a service that they feel good about and presume there is a demand for. Gathering or inability to gather AUM does not say anything about the managers' abilities within the mandates of a fund. But I know life is finite.
  • Bottom Line article: Microcap funds
    @Balu. Absolute return guys are the planet's most stubborn people. They know The Right Way to invest despite being subject to years of ridicule and redemption. The prospect of getting two of them to agree on a compromise through a merged portfolio / merged funds is a lot like expecting two polar bears to agree on sharing the steak.
  • Bottom Line article: Microcap funds
    I owned it for 10 years or but finally sold it in 2017 when it had sorta done little.
    It looks like PVFIX has put up better results since I sold it ( of course!) and gained 24% last year while 50% in cash. Not bad
  • J.P. Morgan Guide to Retirement (2024 ed)
    Here's a companion reading from JP Morgan:
    At this interesting juncture, we are pleased to launch the 2024 edition of J.P. Morgan Asset Management’s Long-Term Capital Market Assumptions (LTCMAs). In our 28th year of producing capital market estimates, we incorporate more than 200 asset and strategy classes; our return assumptions are available in 17 base currencies.
    Over the years, many investors and advisors have come to depend on our assumptions to inform their strategic asset allocation, build more resilient portfolios and establish reasonable expectations for risks and returns over a 10- to 15-year time frame. Additionally, with each passing year, we aim to readjust our long-run approximations, incorporating new information presented by markets, policymakers and economic data.
    In this edition of our LTCMAs, our economic and asset class forecasts generally hold steady.
    While the 60/40 stock-bond portfolio remains at the core, it requires extension, expansion and enhancement. The insights presented here aim to help clients identify the right adaptations for their risk and return objectives as they build smarter portfolios for a world in transition.
    Assumptions on Bond Returns:
    Fixed Income Return Projections
    Outlook for Real Estate:
    Despite some well-flagged issues in some segments of U.S. commercial real estate and persistent weakness in China, we believe that the outlook for core real estate is strong. In the wider real assets complex, the return outlook remains resilient, with core transport forecasts rising 20bps to 7.7% and core infrastructure up 50bps to 6.8%. In addition to attractive returns, real assets offer a diversifying potential that is especially welcome, given the greater volatility in inflation that we anticipate over our forecast horizon.
    On Cash LT:
    While high cash rates appear compelling, investors should remember that sitting in Treasury bills might mean collecting 5% for limited risk today, but it misses
    out on compounding of returns over the longer run. In short, extending out of cash is imperative. We estimate that a dollar invested in cash will be worth, in real terms,
    USD 1.04 a decade from now, whereas in a simple public market 60/40 it would grow to USD 1.54, and in a 60/40 with 25% alts it would be worth over USD 1.60.
    So for investors that have already extended out of cash, the capacity to extend further within their asset opportunity set – factor allocation, international diversification, currency overlays, etc. – is not constrained by higher cash rates. Compared with last year, equity valuations are higher and translate to a modest cyclical headwind for stocks. By contrast, elevated starting
    yields are a cyclical tailwind for bonds.
    Capital & Active Management:
    when capital is provided by asset buyers with a financial stability objective, they buy indiscriminately, but when capital is provided by investors with a return objective, they buy selectively. More selective investment means more differentiated asset performance and greater potential for active styles of investing.
    Industrials:
    The tax incentives in the U.S. Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) support greener commercial buildings and more efficient air conditioning units, which will benefit U.S. electrical and air conditioning companies. Electricity providers will also benefit from reshoring supply chain policies, as electric grids need to be strengthened. More broadly, reshoring supply chains will stimulate the use of U.S.-made inputs across the U.S. industrial sector, potentially benefiting U.S. manufacturers relative to their competitors in Europe and China. In addition, reshoring should fuel global spending on factory automation to offset higher domestic production costs, a boon to global suppliers of factory-automation software. Finally, rising geopolitical tension is increasing global spending on combat readiness, a clear benefit to defense companies.
    Utilities:
    The U.S. Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) will benefits renewable...most of the largest renewables developers in the U.S. are European.
    Semi-Conductors:
    Over the near term, expanding chip manufacturing should benefit the tech companies that provide the required equipment, software and design that support chip production. However, chip tech equipment companies may face competition in the longer term as Chinese companies are incentivized to develop their own equipment.
    2024 Long-Term Capital Market Assumptions
    Asset Allocation Chart:
    Robust portfolio optimization
  • Bottom Line article: Microcap funds
    Bottom Line is a sort of cool "a bit of this and a bit of that" newsletter that covers personal topics from finance to nutrition and scholarship sources. I contribute occasionally. The schtick is that they assess reader interest in various topics and one of the writers reaches out to talk with me. We talk. I share thoughts and data. He filters it through his sense of what would engage readers, drafts an article and the editor sends it back with a "is this about right?" query. Nominally I'm the author. It's unpaid (which is fine) though I do get five copies of the newsletter to share with friends.
    The most recent exchange was on microcap funds. You get some idea of the constraints under which the writer works when you realize that the entire article is exactly 250 words, only slightly shorter than the greeting on my voicemail.
    The premise is that microcaps are profoundly undervalued relative to a bunch of measures and tend to perform exceptionally well when interest rates begin to fall, since that often signals a period of economic acceleration. I think my screen identified 10 (?) options and Mark picked up on three.
    I wish he'd included Pinnacle Value (PVFIX) which is a five-star fund. Shallow observers will say "he's been in the bottom 10% of his peer group four times in the last 10 years." Those who look closer might note that his market cap is one-twentieth of his peer group's and he's posted double-digit absolute returns in three of those four years. 2017 is the only actually bad year. Since inception is Sharpe is 50% above the group's and standard deviation is half of the group's. But John's down to $34 million in assets; as a one-man show he will soldier on, but he deserves more serious attention.
    He just shared his latest annual report. He's a laconic guy, so I don't expect it will take long to finish. If there's something cool, I'll post it separately.
  • Emerging Markets Anyone?
    I don’t particularly like the arbitrariness of defining what is an emerging or a developed market. Wouldn’t it make more sense for money managers simply to go where they think the best opportunities are. But slicing and dicing is a fact of life, and is to some degree necessary. Owning all US equity, or avoiding EM, is indeed a “slice and dice” decision in itself.
    Having said that, I think EM funds can be useful at certain times. Right now (as exemplified in this discussion) there is antipathy for EM investments. And yet, China has recently started up the world’s first Gen-IV nuclear reactor, and designed a battery that lasts 50 years. They also expect to launch a revolutionary space-based telescope next year to make discoveries concerning dark energy and dark matter, and they’ve invented a pair of eyeglasses that allows blind people to navigate their way around. Yeah I know about the political risks and communist party, but I still don’t think this is your grandparents’ China.
    Just an example.
  • Rebalancing portfolio
    "...I’ve already moved a substantial portion of my bond/income allocation to ultrashort bond funds, CDs and money market's. I’m just surprised that intermediate bond funds continue to bleed money. I’ve still a fair amount of money in intermediate funds because I figured they would rebound sooner or later, but later has turned out be longer than I expected. Now that some of my CDs are starting to mature, I’m having to decide whether to continue with short-term investments or start inching back into intermediate bonds."
    It will all depend on when the Fed cuts rates, ie if interest rates trend higher as the economy holds up
    Who knows? A good rule of thumb is to try to match the yield to the duration. Currently anything out past 5 years could be a problem.
    Long term bonds are risky and will probably pay off only if there is a recession.
    @Tarwheel: My bond funds are all at the short-end, but not ultra-short. TUHYX = 3.48 years, and PRCPX = 3.08 years. Both junk. Together, I am at least breaking even with them now. The larger one is TUHYX, and I bought at the WORST time. I have been riding it up and out of the low-point of its funk. Without trying to do it, I bought PRCPX at the very BEST time to do it. The point is that my dividends (still reinvested) are all "gravy," now. No use switching horses in midstream. Unless a recession does finally arrive. Then I'll move to MM or I.G. bonds.
    "...REBOUND SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, but later has turned out to be longer than I expected."
    I know the feeling. And I know it's "apples and oranges," but I have to constantly remind myself why I still hold BHB, my regional bank. As far as I know, the institution is completely solid. But investors want lower interest rates before Financials will go anywhere. (Yet today, my single stocks bucked the trend downward, with the exception of PSTL. Strange.)
  • Rebalancing portfolio
    It will all depend on when the Fed cuts rates, ie if interest rates trend higher as the economy holds up
    Who knows? A good rule of thumb is to try to match the yield to the duration. Currently anything out past 5 years could be a problem.
    Long term bonds are risky and will probably pay off only if there is a recession.
  • Rebalancing portfolio
    My problem is that bond funds that I bought 3 years ago are still losing money, even with higher yields and additional shares bought every month through automatic reinvesting. It is hard psychologically to keep putting money into investments that keep losing value. In theory, I should be lowering the risk of my portfolio, but my bond fund returns seem to show otherwise.
  • Rebalancing portfolio
    Rebalancing is hard. The winners seem to keep winning, and the losers keep losing. If I had kept all of my winners over the years and sold the losers, I’d be much better off, but certainly less diversified. Bond funds are supposed to add stability to a portfolio, but they seem to have lost that ability. Just another source of volatility.
  • Emerging Markets Anyone?
    @Old_Joe ...yep. I do think though that the emerging market classification of a dozen years ago is very different than those of today...still with significant political risk, but they do have largely functioning economies. Past EM funds are more similar to the "Frontier" markets of today.