High yield long term CDs Anytime we talk about CD rates we should always be sure to reference if they are CP or Not CP. BIG difference in the rates and Available Quantities, as well as the strategies/consequences of holding either.
FWIW, I rarely if ever post about Not CP CDs as I have ZERO interest in ever owning one in concert with my overall strategy on FI. All comments that follow are therefore related to brokered, CP CDs.
Brokered, CP rates for 3-yr to 5-yr CP CDs peaked at about 5.20% to 5.10% (based on my tracking, but they coulda inched a wee bit higher) respectively at two different times in 2023, several months ago and a coupla weeks ago.
They are now GONE and we are unlikely to see them again in this interest rate cycle. That said, the topic after all is interest rates, so the direction and magnitude of moves is always a roll of the dice.
Currently, the best brokered, CP rates (and Available Quantities) on Fido for these maturities are
3-yr: 4.65% (6,000)
4-yr: 4.60% (2,200)
5-yr: (None)
I suggested to investors here many months ago to try to NOT be short-sighted (and star struck) with the relatively higher rates on 3-months to 18-month CDs IF they were planning on creating a longer term CD ladder and/or wanted to take advantage of CD opportunities not seen for many prior years.
I suggested those 5+% CP longer term rates would disappear quickly and once they were gone, they would likely be gone for many years...again. Luckily, we all had two swipes at them as noted above. Some acted. Some did not. I acted and built our CD ladder out 5 years.
Those who didn't act are left with the types of questions posted by some of the most recent posters: What to do now?
Yeah, the drop in the 10-yr and CD rates SHOULD improve bond fund TRs BUT that's the rub: Do you want FDIC'd, CP, guaranteed rates of a CD ladder in the 5+% range, or do you want to roll the dice on bond funds, and IMO, basically the hope that you'll match the CD ladder TR? Plenty of worthy arguments on both sides but I will always choose the former based on my minimum FI hurdle and risk/reward considerations. Others had at least two opportunities this year to do the same but it appears they no longer will. So TMMV, and likely will.
Most Americans are better off financially now than before the pandemic The price of food and gas is not the big problem because housings and total expense on vehicles is a much bigger portion of someone expenses. Buying a house in many cases it at least 50% more than 3-4
years ago because prices are 30% up + mortgage rates are more than doubled. That isn't a political view.
Krugman is a political hack. This is what he said
In 2016
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/krugman-trump-global-recession-2016-231055
Most Americans are better off financially now than before the pandemic The data and employment trends support the argument. However, people will judge economy based on what they spend most visibly (prices of food and gas). So, there is the disconnect.
However, for a middle-class family the percentage of these items is relatively small (food about 10% and gas about 6%). Plus, while prices have these items have increased some due to supply chain issues after pandemic and some simply because economy is good, people have jobs and are actually travelling and in effect creating more demand. Without demand the prices cannot easily go up. Fed is basically trying to curb the demand by increasing interest rates.
Also, if you have travelled around the world, you would see US food prices (especially meat) is relatively on the lower end of the scale. In Europe you pay a lot more for your groceries and gas if we compare US with most other developed countries. Inflation while considered high vs 40 years, it is still a very low number again compared to many other countries (well maybe Japan which often goes through deflationary cycles) I will take a bit of inflation with plenty of jobs available vs, no or negative inflation with jobs getting lost. I have lived in a hyperinflation country and the inflation worries here is just more noise than substantial.
Perceptions are also colored by political propaganda of both parties. So, where do I stand? I take the positive view with a nuance. It is neighter as bad as it is perceived, nor it is as good as it could be.
Most Americans are better off financially now than before the pandemic @Devo what state has constant pensions? from retirement day 1?
@davidrmoranNorth Carolina has no automatic inflation adjustments in its pension program for retired teachers and state employees. The state legislature has the authority to increase pension payments but has not done so since my wife and I retired 6-7
years ago. They have granted a few one-time “bonuses” that increase pensions slightly on a year to year basis, but those bonuses are not permanent increases. The real value of our pensions has dropped about 20% since we retired. I do not anticipate any permanent increases as long as Republicans control our legislature because they view state employees as scum.
Most Americans are better off financially now than before the pandemic msf
In case you consider my arithmetic suspect, the same BLS table gives figures in constant (inflation adjusted) dollars:
4th Quarter, 2019 - $362
3rd Quarter, 2023 - $365
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FD: good catch, I would start from Q1/2020 to Q3/2023 beginning at 367, ending at 365
Just for reference: what happened in the 4 years prior, from Q1/2016 to Q4/2019: Start at 346, end at 362...just "a bit" better.
BTW, I have discussed the above with many younger people and they have told me that they are way behind in what they can purchase now vs early 2020. Housing+vehicles are the leading factors and both are a high % of their spending.
Most Americans are better off financially now than before the pandemic This stuff does open the debate between those employed vs retired. The employee wages do rise with inflation (maybe not quite as much after tax adjustment), but still in the direction. Whereas retirees are on their own and have to manage the portfolio to get to that positive outcome. Given the total returns in 60/40 over the last 2 years combined one can see where the angst divide lives.
BBG: Multistrat funds bubble in the making
High yield long term CDs So, an interesting development on the CDs I've posted about here recently.
The previously referenced bank that had loaded 40K-60K of CP CDs in most of the respective maturities (2-yrs thru 5-yrs) accelerated the execution of the Settlement of my two BUYs.
More importantly to others, they pulled all of the outstanding Quantities from the Fido platform.
Not sure what happened there. I've spoken several times over the years to very experienced Fido FI guys and been told institutions sometimes goof on BUYs and their errored/re-thunk BUYs duly end up on the Secondary Issues lists.
Perhaps this bank goofed on the loading side? I dunno. (But I think it did!) I do know I've never seen this happen before.
Bottom Line: The trend continues DOWN on available CP CD rates and Quantities Available.
Most Americans are better off financially now than before the pandemic "record amount of charges on credit cards"... yeah, I've been reading that one for over 70 years now...
"food still very expensive."... now that's for damned sure.
Yup. Every week that I shop at Aldi's, another item that I purchase is up in price. This week it's Clancy's Tortilla Chips up from $1.99 to $2.09 and Friendly Farms Light yogurt up $0.15.
Charles Thomas Munger (1/1/1924-11/28/2023) “I step out of my bed these days and then sit down in my wheelchair. So I am paying some price for old age. But I prefer it to being dead. And whenever I feel sad about being in a wheelchair, I think well you know, Roosevelt ran the whole damn country for 12 years in a wheelchair. So I’m just trying to make this wheelchair thing last as long as Roosevelt did.”
Most Americans are better off financially now than before the pandemic "record amount of charges on credit cards"... yeah, I've been reading that one for over 70 years now...
"food still very expensive."... now that's for damned sure.
Charles Thomas Munger (1/1/1924-11/28/2023)
Econ conditions & hard-landing inflation again in detail; was other stuff, insurance bundling .... Hi
@BaluBalu. This is the information I was looking for earlier regarding Part D, but covers Parts A and B. The page read is short and contains decent examples. Note: About 15
years ago I knew a retired lady who was a good accountant and managed the tax books for her daughter's small hardware store. The mother had always had good health, had started Medicare at age 65, including Part D for meds. A number of
years passed and she didn't really have any benefit from Part D, as she didn't take any meds. The daughter was paying the monthly premiums as an expense from the store operations. Together they decided to STOP Part D. A few
years later she needed to start taking prescriptions and decided the Part D plan would help with pricing. She was able to obtain a Part D again; but from having stopped and started again, she had a monetary penalty applied monthly that remained until her passing.
Medicare and avoiding late enrollment penalties.
Econ conditions & hard-landing inflation again in detail; was other stuff, insurance bundling .... Just a side note to this discussion on Medicare IRMAA. I see IRMAA started in 2003. I wonder what has kept the government from enacting the same type regulation to Social Security? If they did it with Medicare 20 years ago, a precedent, why hasn't it even been debated for SS? Just surprising to me.
U.S. Money Market Funds Draw Largest Weekly Inflows In Seven Months (Story from Nov. 3) Thanks Yogi. Excellent chart / post. A few years ago I thought nothing of having 10 K sitting at the credit union earning near 0. Cash rates were so low it didn’t much matter and I felt good supporting the local CU. But like most everybody now I’d guess, that cash has migrated to mm funds. So it goes,
Buy Sell Why: ad infinitum. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I bought a government agency bond, AA+ rating, at 6.25%, 10 year duration. Callable - yes. Will it last 10 years? Most probably not, But I'll take the rate as long as they want to give it.
Econ conditions & hard-landing inflation again in detail; was other stuff, insurance bundling .... ”On the way to my doctor, I found I was leaking brake fluid.”
I hope the doctor plugged that leak. :)
Anybody’s guess as to why all the insurance ads. Gosh - Several I’ve thought over the
years were damned funny. Well written. Well acted. Talent on display. You don’t have to buy their insurance. What’s not to like?
Recently, Progressive’s “The Other Side of the Rest Stop” caught my fancy. Plays on class division - How the the rich live vs the common folks. Darned funny if you pay attention. Corny too I’ll admit.
https://images.app.goo.gl/kP9kuEc6wkVf24oFA
Someone maybe help me parse this stuff? SEVN Some more background info:
Intro piece on mREITS, including basic mechanics and risks:
https://money.usnews.com/investing/real-estate-investments/articles/how-to-invest-in-mortgate-reits
[Head of income equities at TCW, Iman] Brivanlou says: "Dividend yields are a direct function of the riskiness of the underlying collateral as well as the amount of leverage employed by the mREIT, so we would urge caution and increased scrutiny if an mREIT is offering an unusually high yield." ...
"Most mREITs employ leverage to produce their returns," Brivanlou says. "Without leverage these entities could not operate profitably, which makes them dependent on a stable source of funding."
The two main parts of the real estate market in which SEVN invest are middle market and transitional. Each is a section of the real estate market where one hopes to get above average returns with all that implies for risk. Background sources below are from companies working in these markets (thus interested in promoting them).
Middle market:
https://www.primealpha.com/middle-market-real-estate-2018-06Transitional:
https://lev.co/blog/financing/transitional-real-estate/For a sense of rates associated with middle market, see p. 9 on Morgan Stanley's 3Q2023 report on floating rate loans. It shows that average coupons on middle market loans are higher than BBB, BB, and B rated leveraged floating rate leveraged loans, and only slightly higher than coupons on CCC rated loans. CCC's 19.4% YTW is way above market average; middle market at 13.6% is next highest, still well above market average.
https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_floatingrateloanmarketmonitor_q32023.pdfTo refine yogi's comment about most of the YTD return coming from January, SEVN gave back 3/4 of that gain between March and May, and then gained a similar amount from May to July.
https://stockcharts.com/h-perf/ui?s=SEVN&compare=&id=p67735641417Over the past five
years, its total return has been almost exactly zero. I'd call that "flat", except that its volatility is off the scale. See this comparison with JNK:
https://stockcharts.com/h-perf/ui?s=SEVN&compare=JNK&id=p02208364318