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  • Policy Financial Implications
    The US has the exorbitant privilege of the dollar being the world's reserve currency.
    No other currency in history has been so globally dominant.
    Foreign exchange reserves are most often denominated in US dollars.
    Three quarters of global trade and 85% of all currency swaps involve dollars.
    Recent policy actions have incentivized governments, central banks,
    and financial institutions to question their dependence on the dollar.
    Podcast
  • Bond yields leap connected to sell-off
    For those who don’t know, this is how it is done. DT was backed into a corner and had no choice. He was beaten.
    "Let’s talk about the moment Donald Trump blinked. It wasn’t loud. It wasn’t a tweetstorm or a rally rant. When the tariff threats that had the world on edge — 125% on China, 25% on Canada’s autos, a global trade war in the making — suddenly softened. A 'pause,' he called it. A complete turnaround from the chest-thumping of the past week. And the reason? Mark Carney and a slow, deliberate financial maneuver that most people didn’t even notice: the coordinated Treasury bond slow bleed.
    This wasn’t about bravado. It was about leverage. Cold, calculated, and devastatingly effective.
    Trump’s pause wasn’t because people were getting yippy…
    Rewind a bit. While Trump was gearing up his trade war machine, Carney, Canada’s Prime Minister, wasn’t just sitting in Ottawa twiddling his thumbs. He’d been quietly increasing Canada’s holdings of U.S. Treasury bonds—over $350 billion worth by early 2025, part of the $8.53 trillion foreign countries hold in U.S. debt. On the surface, it looked like a safe play, a hedge against economic chaos. But it wasn’t just defense. It was a loaded gun.
    Carney didn’t stop there. He took his case to Europe. Not for photo ops, but for closed-door meetings with the EU’s heavy hitters — Germany, France, the Netherlands. Japan was in the room too, listening closely. The pitch was simple: if Trump went too far with tariffs, Canada wouldn’t just retaliate with duties on American cars or steel. It would start offloading those Treasury bonds. Not a fire sale — nothing so crude. A slow, steady bleed. A signal to the markets that the U.S. dollar’s perch wasn’t so secure.
    ---Dean Blundell, Canadian radio host. Some might say, "shock-jock." But even a broken clock is correct, twice per day.
  • Bond yields leap connected to sell-off
    Good post @Crash
    For sure. Liquidity issues among some big players were rumored last week. Shortage of cash in the system to cover losses. Perhaps the “elephant in the room” owing to the amount of leverage / speculation in the system. Credit markets were primed. T just lit the fuse.
    Story: Fed official says Fed ready to intervene if necessary.
    Here’s an earlier link to the FT posted in a different thread by @equalizer
  • Let the Exemptions Begin!
    It's interesting when people use pretzel logic in an attempt to somehow justify Trump's terrible tariffs.
    The tariff "plan" is clearly absurd (e.g., rate calculations, taxing uninhabited islands)
    and it was implemented haphazardly. Communication from administration officials regarding tariffs
    was often either nonexistant or contradictory. Most credible economists and financial professionals
    believe the end result will be higher inflation, increased unemployment, and lower GDP.
    Regardless of how some people "spin" these tariffs, it was an extremely imprudent act
    which heightened global financial risks and alienated major US allies.
    The art of reasoning is an art which often take decades to acquire.
    The same spin you guys used about the southern border being closed and the Prez is in great shape and runs the country. This is why all these threads belong in the OFF TOPIC forum.
    There are 5-6 posters that fill out the investment forums daily, and that's why we don't discuss investing as much.
    The other investing forum is still about investing, not politics.
  • Let the Exemptions Begin!
    It's interesting when people use pretzel logic in an attempt to somehow justify Trump's terrible tariffs.
    The tariff "plan" is clearly absurd (e.g., rate calculations, taxing uninhabited islands)
    and it was implemented haphazardly. Communication from administration officials regarding tariffs
    was often either nonexistant or contradictory. Most credible economists and financial professionals
    believe the end result will be higher inflation, increased unemployment, and lower GDP.
    Regardless of how some people "spin" these tariffs, it was an extremely imprudent act
    which heightened global financial risks and alienated major US allies.
    The art of reasoning is an art which often take decades to acquire.
  • Policy Financial Implications
    Ambassador Richard Haass was a featured guest on this week's Wall St Week episode.
    David Westin asked Mr. Haass which countries may benefit and which may suffer due to our current policies.
    Obviously, this can have financial implications.
    Please, let's focus on potential economic/investing impacts
    and refrain from ad hominem attacks against the current administration.
    Who may benefit?
    The first country mentioned was Russia while the second country was China.
    Israel is probably third due to our current hands-off approach.
    More broadly speaking - authoritarian countries like Turkey, Hungary, and some Gulf countries.
    Who may suffer?
    Europe will lose economically because of the tariffs.
    Generally, allies who are our principal trading partners will suffer.
    Canada and Mexico were mentioned.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vy3ImGQFEM&t=2850s
  • Tariffs
    Frankly, I've never liked bond funds because in this type of situation you have absolutely no control over the potential for rapid swings in value. My perspective on individual bonds is entirely different: I buy a specific bond for (hopefully) safety and the interest income, with the intent to keep that bond until maturity. Along the way it may appreciate or depreciate in market value, and that makes absolutely no difference to me.
    It's my belief that to really "play" bonds you need to be a very smart, experienced, and dedicated player- someone like Junkster, for instance. Probably almost a full-time occupation.
    When much younger, if I wanted to take a chance on the intrinsic value of a financial product (hoping for a significant increase in value, of course), I went with stocks or stock funds and took my chances in the market along with everyone else.
  • ‘The damage is done’: Trump’s tariffs put the dollar’s safe haven status in jeopardy
    Friday USD dollar fell against other major currencies and yields of 10 and 30 years Treasuy notes rose. Just about all US bonds fell accordingly. Excerpt from the enclosed articles:
    The sudden loss of confidence has been stark in the US Treasury market, widely considered to be the most important in the world because investors normally use it as the “risk free” benchmark to determine the price of every other financial asset.
    In the sharpest weekly move since 1982, the yield – in effect the interest rate – on 30-year US government bonds rose from about 4.4% to 4.8%. The yield on 10-year bonds has also risen.
    https://theguardian.com/business/2025/apr/11/the-damage-is-done-trumps-tariffs-put-the-dollars-global-reserve-status-at-risk
    What are the options for income investors?
  • U.S. Treasury issues retribution??? What if there is a new tool being considered by foreign holders
    OPPS. Forgot the 'near real-time' financial futures trading graphic for UST's; and other similar.
    HERE
  • U.S. Treasury issues retribution??? What if there is a new tool being considered by foreign holders
    The yield increases from late last night have settled down a bit to about one half from the high point. At least a little relief.
    Equity, bonds and US$ down, simultaneous. OUCH !!!
    And China announced a 'screw you, too' policy of a 84% tariff increase, early today.
    Current/active UST yields chart that updates daily during open hours.
    One doesn't find much stand up opposition in congress or the senate to the current 'crazy'. So, economic damages will be done; that will be difficult to fix short term, IMO.
    Global bond rout starting to sound market alarm bells
    2.5 hours ago
    06:21 EDT REUTERS

    U.S. Treasuries, the bedrock of the global financial system, were hit by fresh selling pressure on Wednesday in a sign that investors were dumping their safest assets as turmoil unleashed by U.S. tariffs prompts forced selling and a dash for cash.
    The 10-year Treasury yield has risen 36 basis points (bps) to 4.35% this week alone as prices fall sharply. If sustained, that would mark the biggest weekly jump since 2013.

    The rout in the roughly $29 trillion Treasury market dragged borrowing costs across the globe higher, raising pressure on central banks and policymakers to act fast to shelter economies now facing a sharp slowdown as U.S. tariffs kick in.
    Japan will cooperate with the Group of Seven advanced economies and the International Monetary Fund to help stabilize a market rout unleashed by U.S. tariffs, the country's top currency diplomat said on Wednesday.
    Japanese 30-year government bond yield surged to 21-year highs and Britain's 30-year bond yields rose to their highest since 1998.
    The 10-year U.S. Treasury yield, the globe's benchmark safe-haven anchor, was unmoored and long bonds were the focus of intense selling from hedge funds which had borrowed to bet on usually small gaps between cash and futures prices.
  • Current Market Activity: ad infinitum
    A little late to cover up, but today I had to place protection in my portfolio by buying an inverse ETF. I've made (long) index purchases this past week, but clearly this might get even uglier (crisis level) soon.
    I don't know what reality Orange lives in, but he clearly has too much control of our financial lives. This is not normal and we are quickly passing the point of no return.
    Wall Street is quickly catching on to this new "reality".
    That said, who knows whether he finally relents from this foolish gambit. We didn't need any of this.
  • This Time, It Really Is the Tariffs
    I haven't investigated JR's claim for buying on dips.
    Perhaps you are referring to the following MW article published on March 7, 2025?
    Warren Pies of 3Fourteen Research calculated that the “golden era of dip buying”
    occurred from the end of the 2008 financial crisis to the late 2021 stock market peak.
    Pies and his team developed a checklist with seven criteria to determine whether a dip is "buyable" or not.
    "As of Thursday’s close, only three of the seven criteria had been met, Pies said.
    Yields have fallen, offering some economic stability. The VIX has remained below 25.
    And, most important, Pies and his team don’t expect a recession on the horizon."

    “'Clients who followed our guidance to reduce risk earlier in the year should look to add back exposure
    over the next couple of months … but not quite yet,' Pies said in a report shared by MarketWatch."

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/thinking-of-buying-the-stock-market-dip-heres-what-you-should-know-6e3e74c1
  • So Much for Flight to Safety
    Stuck my head out, saw my shadow, and ducked back into my burrow.
    Aside from previous comments

    Reuters reports:

    U.S. Treasuries extended a sharp retreat on Tuesday as investors were having to sell bonds to cover losses in other assets and scrambled to unwind expectations for deep U.S. rate cuts, in the latest unsettling sign of possible stress in financial markets.
    /snip
    "What do you sell if you need to meet margin calls or liquidity? Treasuries and gold," said Martin Whetton, head of financial markets strategy at Westpac in Sydney.
    Still lurking in the weeds are bond vigilantes and angry international markets deciding to stick it to Uncle Sam.
    At the risk of getting all political, nobody knows what capitulation looks like because it all depends on how long Trump sticks with tariffs.
  • So Much for Flight to Safety
    "Market participants said the declines in the $29tn Treasury market on Monday reflected several factors, including hedge funds cutting down on leverage — or borrowing used to magnify trades —
    and a broader dash for cash as investors sheltered from swings in the wider market."

    "Investors and analysts pointed in particular to hedge funds that took advantage of small differences in the price of Treasuries and associated futures contracts, known as the 'basis trade'. These funds, which are large players in the fixed-income market, unwound those positions as they cut back on risk, prompting selling in Treasuries."
    https://www.ft.com/content/623971a1-cd93-43c2-ad8d-ba8815339a24
    Financial Times article may be paywalled.
  • Tariffs
    Do you REALLY think a large % of his minions would still "believe" he's a financial whiz if the US went belly up?
    His minions will believe this is all somehow Biden's fault, because that's the excuse the propaganda (aka Fox News) will direct them towards. Roughly 35% - 40% of the country will vote for him again no matter what. NO MATTER WHAT.
    Maybe if you take their Social Security away, the base erodes a bit more.
    There is no common sense involved, no humility and the facts are alternative. It's the foundation for this entire "movement".
    It's a cult of personality. And it's how we got here.
  • Tariffs
    Good god. In a bankruptcy, it's irrelevant what citizens, customers, creditors and whoever else "believe"!
    Do you REALLY think a large % of his minions would still "believe" he's a financial whiz if the US went belly up?
    Ugh. I'm done with this part of the discussion. What I originally posted was an attempted tongue-in-cheek slap in the face. Somehow semantics got in the way.
  • Tariffs
    Uh, yeah, I kinda thought that went without saying.
    You would think, but about 40% of the population still likes to believe that he is some sort of financial negotiations wizard.......despite his bankruptcy history.
    Looking past a track record with red flags in abundance, that history has been neatly swept under the rug.
    At the end of the day, the Emperor has no clothes.
  • Stagflation - "This Economic Paradox Nearly Took Down Three Presidents.."
    @Charles, lots of quick changes in bonds. Junk bonds that worked in last two years now are falling behind as the market is falling, while the safer and quality IG bonds are back this week. Quite a reversal. Yes, I like boring T bills, money market, and stable value as cash and cash equivalents. Now is not the time to catch a falling knife.
    Right now the FED is in a tight spot when the inflation remains elevated and getting worse. Watch for the labor market where recession starts.
    Is it economically feasible to reshoring manufacturing base to the States? Interesting but naive thinking in my honest opinion.
    @JD_co, the tariffs is more revealing that meets the eyes. Excerpt from WSJ article.
    But the tariff scheme he announced isn’t reciprocal and isn’t based on measuring foreign trade barriers. Instead, it simply measures bilateral trade deficits and comes up with tariff numbers from there. 
    Those are two very different things, and could be one reason why global financial markets are reacting so badly.
    The upshot is that, in the majority of cases, the Trump administration is now charging other countries more than what they charge the U.S.
    Take the case of Vietnam. The U.S. will now charge Vietnam a 46% tariff for its exports to the U.S. But Vietnam’s simple average tariff is 9.4%, and its weighted average tariff—which is adjusted to account for the share of products coming in under different tariff rates—is just 5.1%, according to data from the World Trade Organization.
    For Apple News subscribers, here is the link.
    https://apple.news/AP0d-np1rQOSoanLTvSkaVQ
  • Tariffs
    Here is a X post from a Shay Boloor, a financial/investment podcaster, that is making the rounds:
    MY OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT TRUMP The frustrating part is that I was on board for a reset. Truly. I’ve said it publicly. I’ve written about it in this very feed. I understood the need for a detox. For decades, the U.S. economy played the part of the rich guy at the table -- picking up the check for a global order that no longer worked in our favor. We hollowed out our industrial base. We enabled unfair trade imbalances under the illusion of diplomacy. We subsidized demand for cheap imports while outsourcing the hard questions about how our domestic workforce would adapt.
    Eventually, that had to stop. It was unsustainable -- financially, politically, and morally. We couldn’t keep pretending that a consumption-led economy held together by zero-interest rates and global fragility was a long-term solution. I wanted a rebalancing. I welcomed the idea of a harder, smarter America-first policy that pushed for fair treatment, reciprocal agreements, and a real industrial strategy rooted in technological superiority, national security, and capital formation. That would’ve been leadership.
    But that’s not what this is.
    That you’ve rolled out isn’t detox -- it’s whiplash. This isn’t strategic decoupling. It’s scattershot retaliation dressed up as reform. There’s no roadmap. No operational playbook. No clear articulation of where this ends or what the metrics of success even are. It’s not an attempt to responsibly unwind America’s role as the global shock absorber -- it’s a brute-force attempt to disorder the existing system with no viable alternative in place.
    You can’t replace a fragile supply chain with chaos and call it resilience. You can’t build American industry by torching the scaffolding that underpins capital flows, labor mobility, and global coordination -- especially when the U.S. itself no longer has the domestic capacity to meet its own industrial needs. You talk about bringing jobs home, but the U.S. doesn’t have the labor force, permitting structure, or wage flexibility to stand up full-scale manufacturing at speed. And now -- after years of deportation policies and underinvestment in vocational training -- you’ve made the labor gap even wider.
    Capital isn’t going to rush to fill that void just because you raised tariffs. It’s going to wait. It’s going to sit on the sidelines and preserve optionality. Because right now, no CEO can confidently model a five-year capex plan. No board can greenlight supply chain onshoring when they don’t know whether a tariff rate will double next quarter based on your Twitter account or some arbitrary trade deficit formula.
    That’s the issue. This wasn’t rolled out as part of a comprehensive American renewal strategy. It wasn’t coordinated with the Fed. It wasn’t communicated clearly to Treasury. It wasn’t backed by a labor reskilling program or any form of public-private manufacturing incentive beyond empty slogans. It was dropped like a bomb -- seemingly designed more to shock than to build.
    And in the absence of credible structure, capital is retreating -- not realigning.
    I was ready to endure the pain of a thoughtful, structured reset. Most long-term investors were. We’ve lived through tightening cycles. We understood that globalization, as it stood, had reached a breaking point. But this isn’t a correction of imbalances. This is a rupture without scaffolding.
    What you’ve created isn’t reindustrialization. It’s an intentional sabotage of capital planning. No executive is going to build a factory with four-year political horizon risk, a floating tariff regime, and no labor certainty. No investor is going to fund expansion in a market where the basic cost of imports can change weekly based on what country has a current account surplus that week. The system you’ve launched isn’t designed for certainty. It’s designed for control.
    And the irony is -- we’re not even punishing bad actors. We’re punishing everyone. Allies. Poor countries. Longstanding partners. Israel gets slapped with 17% tariffs while dismantling their own to support American imports. Vietnam gets hit with 46% because it’s become too productive. Lesotho, one of the poorest countries on Earth, faces a 50% tariff because it doesn’t buy enough U.S. goods -- as if that were a sign of unfairness rather than poverty. It’s incoherent. It’s cruel. And it undermines any claim to moral high ground.
    You say this is about protecting American workers. But no worker is helped by policy so erratic that no employer wants to hire. No consumer is helped when import costs rise and domestic capacity doesn’t exist to replace them. No investor is helped when the cost of capital spikes in the face of weaponized uncertainty.
    This is not a plan to make America stronger. It’s a gamble that markets and allies will blink first. It’s brinkmanship with no floor.
    And the most maddening part? There was a path. A real one. A version of this policy that could’ve worked -- not in headlines or soundbites, but in practice. A path that applied pressure with purpose, that aligned economic force with long-term national interest, that sent a clear message to adversaries and partners alike without destabilizing global commerce or blindsiding capital allocators.
    You could’ve gone after China -- hard -- and had the backing of nearly every serious investor and strategist on the Street. Not just because of trade deficits or currency suppression, but because China has been actively undermining our economy and our people. I would’ve supported a four-year plan to end all dependence on Chinese manufacturing unless they stopped stealing American IP (DeepSeek). No more games. Make it explicit: if they don’t comply, we’ll back Taiwanese independence and bring the entire global semiconductor economy with us. No ambiguity. No half-threats. As I see it, China is at war with us -- and our policy should reflect that.
    With the EU, you could’ve played it clean. Match auto tariffs percent-for-percent. That’s fair. And then leave the rest alone -- especially goods and services. We run a huge surplus on services with the EU. It props up some of our biggest competitive advantages -- enterprise software, consulting, cloud, defense tech, streaming, media IP. Tariffing the EU outside of autos would be like shooting your own foot for balance. We’re not in a trade war with Europe. We're in a competition for global enterprise dominance -- and right now, the U.S. is winning.
    That’s what real strength would’ve looked like. That’s what an America-first trade doctrine could’ve achieved. You’d be rebuilding the system from the inside out -- not just throwing bricks through the windows and calling it a redesign.
    Investors would’ve backed it. CEOs would’ve planned around it. Global partners would’ve respected it -- even if they didn’t like it. And capital would’ve flowed toward American resilience instead of retreating from American unpredictability.
    But instead of that, you went with chaos. And now, confidence is shattered. Not because the numbers are bad -- but because no one knows what the numbers mean anymore.
    That’s the cost of burning down the rules without building new ones. So no, this is not the detox we needed. It’s not strategic decoupling. It’s not a path to renewal. It’s a slow, loud dismantling of the very foundation that has allowed American capital, innovation, and enterprise to dominate for decades. And it didn’t have to be this way.
    But now we’re here. And the market is reacting accordingly -- not to the fundamentals, but to the sense that the future may no longer be modelable. That’s not a trade. That’s an exit.
    I don’t want this post to be hyper-political. This isn’t about red or blue. It’s not about the 2024 election cycle. It’s not about ideology. It’s about strategy. It’s about execution.
    It’s about understanding that when you're the United States -- when you sit at the helm of the global economic engine -- every policy you roll out reverberates through capital markets, supply chains, boardrooms, and governments. Words become signals. Signals become pricing. Pricing becomes pain -- or progress.
    And I hope -- for the sake of the markets, for the sake of businesses trying to plan, and for the future we’re all investing into -- that it’s not too late to recalibrate. Because we don’t need more noise.
    We need a plan.
  • FTSE 100 plunges 6% to one-year low
    Following is a short current report in The Guardian:
    Britain’s stock market has plunged deep into the red at the start of trading.
    Stocks are sliding sharply again, adding to last week’s heavy losses, as investors grow more fearful that Donald Trump’s trade policies will lead to recession.
    In London, the FTSE 100 index of blue-chip stocks has plunged by 488 points, or 6%, taking the index down to 7566 points, its lowest level since February 2024.
    That’s an even more severe plunge than the near-5% wipeout on Friday after China retaliated against the US with its own new tariffs.
    Every share on the FTSE 100 is in the red, with UK manufacturing firm Rolls-Royce tumbling by 13%.
    Miners, banks, and investment firms are also in the top fallers.
    There is widespread disappointment this morning that there was no progress on US trade tariffs over the weekend, with Trump described his new tariffs as necessary ‘medicine’.
    Kathleen Brooks, research director at XTB, says investors are desperate to see ‘concrete action’, such as a pause or u-turn on Trump’s tariffs.
    This market is looking for concrete action, not talk of action. The best panacea for financial markets right now would be a pause or reversal from the US on its tariff programme.