Anyone have old pages or recollections of the tenor of posts in 2008? (Fund Alarm) FROM FUNDALARM
by WhiteSoxWinner on February 25, 2009 at 09:38:09:
In Reply to: Ping WhiteSox Winner posted by Dave on February 25, 2009 at 07:54:22:
Hi Dave,
I think you're making the right move by switching to ETFs.
You might think about a core and explore approach, where index ETFs are the core of your portfolio and the explore part is reserved for active funds or other strategies.
It's important to remember there's no accurate way to hedge an active fund or even an index mutual fund. With the ETF, one can buy insurance via put options -- which would offset any losses in your long ETF positions. To me, it's not gambling, anymore than buying insurance on your automobile or home is gambling. Why not protect your portfolio or at least have that flexibility? ETFs give you that choice. Even if you don't use it, it's still there for you.
I don't own the Fairholme Fund, but I'm a fan of Bruce Berkowitz. He recently sold Berkshire Hathaway, which tells me he's got more guts and backbone than all of America's portfolio managers combined. If you're going to bet on fund managers, stick with the radical kooks that don't hug their benchmarks.
Maybe Investor or one of the other FundAlarmers can provide some research links, but there's no academic or statistical proof that active mutual funds perform any better during bear markets than straight index funds. Such views are rooted in marketing propaganda and mischievious myth. The active funds that do "protect" their shareholders during a bear market, often end up underperforming during bull markets because of their cash drag and mis-timing. A tiny percentage of active funds may protect their investors during a bear market, but knowing them in advance is impossible.
Regarding your asset allocation, just ask any one of us for an opinion on your ETF mix. Most FundAlarmers will be delighted to give you their opinion. Your mix of ETFs should match your investment time table, your age, your level of risk acceptance, your income needs, and any other financial considerations.
I own XLU, which is a Utility Sector ETF. Sector Funds are OK, but for you, it's probably best to use a core and explore method. You would make broad index ETFs like VTI, BND, CWI, TIP, RWR the portfolio's foundation, then you could add explore or satellite positions in sector ETFs around that.
Most of the major ETF Provider Websites like iShares.com, SPDR.com, and Vanguard.com/etf are good resources and have valuable information/tools on portfolio construction with ETFs. I also like to read ETFGuide.com and they have a portfolio service too.
Good investing to you, friend.
WSW
Anyone have old pages or recollections of the tenor of posts in 2008? (Fund Alarm) Marketwatch 02/15/09
Gold has been the preferred inflation hedge down through the ages. Investors have long prized the disaster insurance the precious metal provides during market panics and inflation surges when governments debase their currencies in response to crises.
Gold futures were trading well above $900 an ounce last week as investors were disappointed by the lack of details in the Treasury Department's latest plan to rescue the financial system.
Investors have been piling into the largest gold ETF, SPDR Gold Shares (GLD). The amount of gold held by the ETF continues to set new records -- it is now backed by about 1,000 metric tons of the precious metal. SPDR Gold Shares has an expense ratio of 0.4%, although investors pay broker commissions to buy and sell ETFs.
SPDR Gold Shares is one of the largest ETFs, with about $30 billion in assets. Although it is the biggest precious-metals ETF, several other exchange-traded products are tied to gold, silver and platinum, for example. Some provide leverage. Others such as Van Eck Market Vectors Gold Miners ETF (GDX) track miner shares. Investors need to be aware that gains on some futures-based commodity ETFs and ETNs can be taxed at a higher rate than those on funds indexed to stocks.
Robo-Advisors - Barron's Rankings, 2024 Schwab is at the bottom of the performance rankings YTD, 1 year (the only robo with single digit returns, more than a point behind second worst), and 5 year (tie for worst). Over three years it did 0.2% better than the worst.
As a blind guess without checking, I suspect the cause is cash drag, especially since Vanguard has outperformed Schab recently by more than 3%, and by more than 1% over three and five years.
Schwab ranks in the middle of the pack overall. That seems to be due to broad financial planning tools and features like
Intelligent Income (mentioned by Barron's) for managing a monthly income stream. Raw performance only counts for so much; with Barron's that's 25% of the total score.
Anyone have old pages or recollections of the tenor of posts in 2008? (Fund Alarm) As a follow-up to
@rforno’s “newbie” thread, it might be interesting to reflect on what the board looked like during 2008 - right in the middle of an eventual 17-month decline in the S&P (greater losses globally and in some domestic sectors). The period is known as
”The Global Financial Crisis” and is also sometimes referred to as
”The Great Recession”. Even money market funds had become unsafe and investors began fleeing until the government exercised extraordinary authority to backstop them.
It is easy in hindsight after these rare episodes to say: “Do nothing”, “Let it ride …” , “Just don’t look. It won’t really matter 20 years from now.” These are all intelligent responses. But is that how it really was?
Anybody recall the general tenor at Fund Alarm (predecessor to MFO) back then? And what the smart, well informed, articulate posters were generally saying? Was the general feeling one of “I’m sitting tight.”… “I’m not making any moves.”, “I’m not even looking because longer term everything will be great.”
Possibly some were reading / participating on other investment forums, or possibly some recall what their friends, family members, co-workers and / or neighbors were saying and doing.
Just a friendly reminder for any newbie investors (8/5/2024) I didn't have much money allocated to equities in 1987 since I was young and "poor."
Having read a bit about investing, I thought the 1987 market crash might present a buying opportunity.
Despite this knowledge, I didn't actually take advantage of the situation.
During the dot-com bubble (circa 1995 - 2000), I was employed in the tech industry.
Many coworkers were discussing massive gains in Yahoo, Cisco, and the like.
It was very difficult to ignore this continuous chatter - FOMO is real!
Since markets appeared to be in a bubble, I resisted the siren song of the dot-coms.
I didn't panic during the subsequent crash but should have purchased more equities afterward.
The Global Financial Crisis (GFC) of 2007 - 2008 was very challenging for me.
There were many bankruptcies, multiple bailouts, bank runs on money market funds
(Reserve Primary Fund "broke the buck"), and rising unemployment.
Congress initially rejected the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008
($700B Troubled Asset Relief Program was a component) which led to a ~9% decline
in the S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite that day. The legislation was passed a few days later.
The seemingly endless onslaught of severe economic events caused significant anxiety.
To me, it felt like the US economy might suffer a precipitous decline analogous to the Great Depression.
Once again, I didn't panic but should have increased equity purchases after this major crash.
I hope to never experience a similar scenario again during my lifetime!
Robo-Advisors - Barron's Rankings, 2024 Robo-Advisors - Barron's Rankings, 2024Robo-advisors are now $1.09 trillion business. Those are no longer seen as steppingstones to other strategies. In fact both the young & the people approaching retirement like them. The leaders in the AUM now are all latecomers with financial &/or marketing muscle; the original pioneers Betterment & Wealthfront do have respectable presence. So, it isn't all about ERs. But the competition is tough & some big players like JPM, GS have left this business.
Performance Ranking (overall based on multiple criteria): Fidelity, Merrill, SoFi, Vanguard, Wealthfront, Betterment, Schwab, Empower, Ally, USB, E*Trade/MS, SigFig, Wells Fargo, Acorns
1-Yr Performance for Allocation 60-40: SoFi, Fidelity, Vanguard, Wealthfront, USB, Empower, Betterment, Merrill, Ally, Schwab
AUM: Vanguard, Edelman, Morningstar, Fidelity, Schwab, Betterment, Wealthfront, Guided Choice
https://www.barrons.com/articles/best-robo-advisors-c2b901fe?mod=hp_columnists
Merrill revisited I recently opened a CMA account as a replacement for a
Vanguard Cash Plus account. That is, an account where we could access a better yielding treasury only MMF and get a decent yield on FDIC-insured money (non-sweep). My SO also opened a new IRA (for promotion $$) and I added to my existing IRA for promotion $$. The experience has been largely disappointing.
On the plus side:
- good promotions: fairly high bonuses for fairly low amounts brought in; relatively short 90 period for bonus
- BofA Preferred Rewards (based on Merrill balance):
increases cash back on BofA credit cards
- Decent rate on FDIC-insured account (though not a sweep account)
- Access to high yielding (institutional)
MMFs with $1 mins On the minus side:
- 24 hr phone service is limited; was told I needed to wait until 8AM for "financial advisor" to be available to deal with some issues
- preferred award system missed one new account in calculating level of benefits we were qualified for
- bond research/trading issues
Trading Treasuries:
- cannot buy Treasuries at auction except through rep with fee
- search tool is limited
--- no depth of book
--- does not display bonds if min purchase quantity is greater than one (i.e. greater than $1K)
- cannot buy a bond, even by CUSIP, if min purchase required is more than one bond
We have these accounts for the plusses above. We don't really use them for trading. E*Trade also offers access to higher yielding third party MMFs.