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Nevermind, if I got a 1.30% annual return on my portfolio it would equal what I would get from the annuity plus I wouldn't have to throw away the 17.5% in the process.Anyone have an annuity? I realize they are a bad deal and their onefold purpose is peace of mind. But when I turn 70 in 2 years if I put 17.5% of my portfolio in an immediate annuity it (plus my Social Security) would cover all my annual expenses and then some. New York Life is the only insurance company I would ever consider if I went that doubtful route.
At 65, I am a "young" retiree. Doing some harvesting each year from investments provides a significant portion of the annual funds that get spent in our household. The life expectancy table linked below tells me I have a 50% chance of living to be 89 and a 25% chance of living to be 97. That is almost forever from this "youngsters" perspective. And, those numbers are in line with other materials I have read. So, treating my portfolio something like an annuity seems reasonable....almost without even considering the probability of increased "old" age expenses and any wish to have some money left over when I am gone. Tracking my annual nominal and inflation adjusted return on investments net of all withdrawals and then averaging that information over multiple years helps me keep our annual spending within sustainable bounds. This method could also be used to help guide a path to $0 in some future year.I plan finances up to 85-87yo.....that way I know my plan will come true (work), your plan to 100yo is dead (no pun) to Start
I have figured out for sure that I'll never have the comfortable amounts that get referenced in investing articles from newspapers and magazines. Half a million? Not gonna happen. I have to take satisfaction that between wifey and myself, our "heirs" are recipients from time to time already, in no small way. Life's not fair. But it's LOTS more unfair to some others. And so, we do our part to even the score. "It's a good thing." (---uncle Martha Stewart.)Junkster recently mused in a post about striking a balance between reaping now and sowing for the future as we manage our individual portfolios during our "retirement" years. The article in this link suggests it may be appropriate to plan on living to 100 as we consider this question. It also suggests we manage our individual portfolios like endowments, seeking to balance annual withdrawals and portfolio growth to avoid eroding the principal.
The idea of looking at our individual situations and then deciding on an amount to set aside for the future -- be it the nominal or inflation adjusted principal or some other amount -- makes sense to me. (It is the basic approach I use to manage my portfolio.) The decided upon amount can be set aside for use if a dramatic future increase in medical and related care expenses requires it. And, it can include additional funds to be left to our heirs and/or to do good things in the world after we are gone. The remainder of the ongoing total returns in our individual portfolios can be reaped now.
The success of this approach assumes we will avoid doing too much reaping after one or two good years. So, "Reaping Now" needs to be averaged over some number of years. But, the idea that we each need to have a conversation with ourselves and make peace with much we want to be setting aside "indefinitely" for the future makes sense to me.
http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/mutual-funds/articles/2015/03/12/the-100-year-old-portfolio-investments-for-a-long-life

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