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  • Serious question about bond funds
    One needs to assess the situation carefully:
    1. Returns after the annual inflation. This year is about 3-4%.
    2. Returns after federal and state tax. These instruments are tax as ordinary income on federal level. T bills are state tax exempt.
    If inflation stays higher than the historical 2% for several years, that will erode purchasing power from the 5% yield. The 4% withdrawal rate May becomes not feasible. This is tough time for income investors including myself.
  • Serious question about bond funds
    ”But if you bought the CD from a brokerage it would be little different from having bought a 5 year Treasury.”
    Ginsberg's theorem
    1. You can't win. (consequence of first law of thermodynamics)
    2. You can't break even. (consequence of second law of thermodynamics)
    3. You can't even get out of the game. (consequence of third law of thermodynamics)
    Sounds a lot like marriage. Easier to get in than out of. When you throw in the uncertainty of knowing where interest rates (or asset prices) might be a year or so from now, it makes the hypothetical proposition I posted earlier of “going all in” more complex than first appears. Like marriage, once you commit to that plan (sell your diversified holdings) it might be hard to get back into them at the same prices you sold for (the entropy part.)
  • Serious question about bond funds
    The five year CD might have a penalty of a year (it would almost certainly have at least a six month penalty) for early withdrawal. That could still make this a good move.
    But if you bought the CD from a brokerage it would be little different from having bought a 5 year Treasury. You would sell at market rates, which would already have taken current interest rates into account. In short, you could swap horses, but you wouldn't get ahead that way.
    And as the second law of thermodynamics is often paraphrased, you won't break even. There's friction (or entropy) involved - that transaction is going to cost you something; in the case of a brokered CD a big spread.
  • Serious question about bond funds
    Guys - You’ve almost convinced me to sell everything and move it all into that “guaranteed insured rate of 5+% for the next … 5 years.”
    Never invested that way before, having grown up believing a broadly diversified portfolio is the way to go. Even when money market funds paid 15% in the 80s I (perhaps stupidly) remained mostly in globally diversified equities. (Maybe “brainwashed” watching Rukeyser every Friday night.)
    My question - If the rate available on this product (5-year CD) rises to 7-8% in a year or two, could I cash out that 5-year CD early and buy a new one at the 7-8% rate - or move it into a money market fund at a better rate than the old CD?
  • Serious question about bond funds
    @stillers
    As far as I’m concerned, this is a great investing time for retirees. I’m perfectly satisfied with guaranteed 5% returns, particularly with bond funds losing value every day
    Agreed. If I wasn't still working and already in a fairly high marginal tax bracket I'd be snapping up 5%+ treasuries for the long-term. But right now, I'd be giving up a pretty significant chunk of that in taxes, so I'm sticking with QDI from equities at much more reasonable 15% taxation rates.
  • M* JR on Rolling Returns
    M* JR compares rolling returns (5- , 10-, 20- yr) and annual returns for 01/1926-09/2023. An obvious conclusion is that longer rolling-return periods smooth the returns and reveal the underlying trends. Historical data (for almost 97 years!) are also notable.
    At one time, M* Charts used to provide rolling return option. May be that should be restored.
    https://www.morningstar.com/stocks/how-time-horizon-affects-odds-equity-investing
  • Fidelity has "disappeared" Dodge & Cox funds
    I believe D&C is changing their funds to institutional shares and they need to be registered with SEC. They are still sold through Fidelity Retail brokerage, but it has not been completed yet.
    That's an interesting theory, but the new filings (new prospectuses) were complete as of June 6th. And the tickers weren't changed, only new tickers for class X shares were added.
    DODLX summary prospectus including June 6th supplement.
    Even if somehow the funds had temporarily "vanished", the fund family D&C didn't. Fidelity's screener shows other families that have no funds. It doesn't show D&C.
    For example, here's the screener's search result for American Growth funds - 0 funds, but it still finds the family.
    In contrast to the D&C funds that are alive and well, the American Growth Fund - Series 2 (AMREX), aka American Growth Cannabis Fund went, well, up in smoke.
    http://www.agfseries2.com/files/Summary Prospectus N1a Sticker.pdf
  • Serious question about bond funds
    @stillers
    As far as I’m concerned, this is a great investing time for retirees. I’m perfectly satisfied with guaranteed 5% returns, particularly with bond funds losing value every day
  • 2023 capital gains distribution estimates
    @Crash, did you "Dismiss" (from Setting wheel) this Announcement? It's already at the top.
    Once "Dismissed", one cannot "Un-Dismiss". If that happened, you may want to Bookmark it.
    https://www.mutualfundobserver.com/discuss/discussion/58904/announcements-dismiss-undismiss-restore
  • Pretty Funny- Matt Levine: Bitcoin hitman user experience
    Matt's column this morning is just great- I had to share it.
    There are three classic problems that you might encounter if you try to use Bitcoin to pay for goods and services. The first problem is that your Bitcoins might go astray: Bitcoin transactions are irreversible and involve sending money to long complicated addresses, and people are constantly trying to steal them. So if you send someone Bitcoin to pay for something, there will probably be a typo in the address and the person won’t get it and you’ll have to send it again and your first payment will just be permanently lost.
    The second problem is that Bitcoin is very volatile, and even people who accept payment in Bitcoin tend not to denominate it in Bitcoin. So if you send someone $100 worth of Bitcoin to buy a $100 thing, the price of Bitcoin might drop 10% while you’re sending it, and then they’ll say “you only sent me $90” and you’ll have to top them up with more Bitcoin.
    The third classic problem is that, if you are using Bitcoin to pay for goods and services, there is a good chance that you are paying for something illegal, and Bitcoin payments are traceable. So if you send someone $16,000 worth of Bitcoin to buy a $16,000 thing, (1) some of your money will go missing in transit, (2) the Bitcoins you send won’t be worth $16,000 and you’ll have to send some more, and (3) the $16,000 thing was a murder and now you are in prison.
    James Wan knows these problems well:
    On April 18, 2022, while in the Northern District of Georgia, Wan accessed a dark web marketplace from his cellular telephone and submitted an order to have a hitman murder his girlfriend. The order included the victim’s name, address, Facebook account, license plate, and car description. In the order, Wan stated: “Can take wallet phone and car. Shoot and go. Or take car.” Wan then electronically transferred a 50% downpayment of approximately $8,000 worth of Bitcoin to the dark web marketplace.
    Two days later, Wan messaged the marketplace’s administrator, stating that the transferred Bitcoin did not show up in his escrow account on the site. The next day, the marketplace administrator asked Wan for the Bitcoin address to which Wan had sent the payment. In response, Wan identified the Bitcoin wallet address and provided a screenshot of the transaction. When the administrator said that the address Wan provided was not in their system, Wan replied, “Damn. I guess I lost $8k. I’m sending $8k to escrow now.” Wan then electronically transferred an additional Bitcoin payment worth approximately $8,000 to the marketplace. …
    About a week later, on April 29, 2022, Wan electronically transferred another payment of approximately $8,000 worth of Bitcoin to the dark web marketplace to ensure his escrow account contained the total required to complete the order. ...
    On May 10, 2022, after the value of Bitcoin dropped, Wan electronically transferred another payment of approximately $1,200 worth of Bitcoin to the marketplace to ensure his escrow account still contained the total required to complete the order.
    Wan pleaded guilty this week. “After speaking with FBI agents, Wan canceled the order on the dark web marketplace,” terrific. I wonder how many murder-for-hire contracts had to be repriced when crypto prices collapsed last year. Not zero!
    And yet another winner:
    Elsewhere in crypto crime
    I suppose if you are a law enforcement officer and a guy calls 911 and says “someone stole my Bitcoins,” you could just go to his house and arrest him? Or at least show up and ask him questions like “where did you last see your Bitcoins?” and “do you have any enemies?” and “is there any chance you acquired these Bitcoins by hacking a dark-web drug marketplace?”
    Here is a CNBC story about a guy named Jimmy Zhong, who called 911 because someone stole his Bitcoins, and the cops showed up and were like “okay but who did you steal the Bitcoins from,” and he was like “oh Silk Road” and they arrested him. No, I’m kidding, I’m condensing the timeline, and he didn’t actually say that, but that is where he stole the Bitcoins from, and they did ultimately arrest him for it. The scorecard here is:
    The guy who stole hundreds of thousands of dollars’ worth of Zhong’s Bitcoins was never caught.
    Zhong was sentenced to a year in prison for stealing billions of dollars’ worth of Silk Road’s Bitcoins.
    The guy who ran Silk Road was sentenced to life in prison, mostly for running a marketplace selling drugs for Bitcoins though also for trying to use Bitcoins to hire hitmen to do some murders.
    The lesson might be that if you are going to do crypto crime, stealing from people who steal from people who run crypto drug marketplaces is a better bet than running the marketplaces yourself. This is not any sort of advice at all.
    Three other funny points from the CNBC story. One is that US law enforcement seized the Bitcoins that Zhong stole from Silk Road (except for the ones that were stolen from him) and very cleverly offered to return them to their rightful owners, opening “a process that allowed victims of the hack to apply to get their bitcoin back.” Again this is not legal advice, but do not fill out that application! Nobody did:
    Nobody came forward to claim the loot. That’s not surprising, given that users of Silk Road in 2012 were largely drug dealers and their customers.
    Two, the government then “sold off the stolen bitcoin and will keep the proceeds.” Zhong’s lawyers make the sensible point that, by stealing these Bitcoins from Silk Road and handing them over to the government years later, Zhong actually made the government a lot of money:
    “If Jimmy had not stolen the coins and the government had in fact seized them from [Silk Road operator Ross Ulbricht] they would have sold them two years later in 2014 as they did with other coins.”
    At that point, the government “would have gotten $320 a coin or made somewhere about $14 million,” Bachner said. “Now, as a result of Jimmy having them, the government has gotten a $3 billion profit.”
    Over the last few years, a lot of people have made arguments with the essential form “I am an investing genius because I held Bitcoin from 2014 through 2021,” but this particular one struck me as novel.
    Three, here’s how BlockTrace cyberintelligence investigator Shaun MaGruder knew that Zhong was the hacker:
    MaGruder said Zhong’s level of sophistication was apparent.
    “He was navigating that keyboard like I’ve never seen someone navigate a keyboard,” MaGruder said. “He didn’t have to use a mouse because he knew all the hotkeys.”
    Watch out, investment banking analysts.
  • Serious question about bond funds
    @Tarwheel
    I asked similar questions on various threads on this site for a few months with varying results.
    What I learned: Lots of investors just ain't interested in boring, guaranteed, insured rates of 5+% for the next 3 months to 5 years.
    What I already knew: I am.
    FWIW, I sold all of my bond funds (and all of the bond funds of other accounts I manage for friends and relatives) many months ago and now have CD ladders that guarantee as much or more TR than any of us either expected or hoped for LT from bond funds. We all still hold stock portfolios as well with some holding a sliver of bonds via Allocation funds.
    When I was young, a favorite saying and/or dream was to have enough money to live off the interest. For many who have enough of a nest egg, that opportunity has been years in the making but is now smack dap in front of us. It won't be there forever. Act accordingly.
  • Brown Advisory Equity Income Fund will be liquidated
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1548609/000089418923007651/baf-497e.htm
    ________________________________________
    BROWN ADVISORY FUNDS
    Brown Advisory Equity Income Fund
    (the “Fund”)
    Institutional Shares (BAFDX)
    Investor Shares (BIADX)
    Advisor Shares (BADAX)
    Supplement dated October 19, 2023
    to the Prospectus, the Summary Prospectus and the Statement of Additional Information
    dated October 31, 2022
    The Board of Trustees (the “Board”) of Brown Advisory Funds (the “Trust”), based upon the recommendation of Brown Advisory LLC (the “Adviser”), the investment adviser to the Fund, has determined to close and liquidate the Fund. The Board concluded that it would be in the best interest of the Fund and its shareholders that the Fund be closed and liquidated as a series of the Trust effective as of the close of business on or about January 15, 2024. Accordingly, the Board approved a Plan of Liquidation and Termination (the “Plan”) that sets forth the manner in which the Fund will be liquidated.
    The Board has determined to waive any applicable redemption fees and exchange fees for shares redeemed on or after October 20, 2023.
    Effective October 20, 2023, in anticipation of the liquidation, the Fund is no longer accepting purchases into the Fund, except for the reinvestment of dividends and distributions, if any. In addition, the Adviser will begin an orderly transition of the portfolio to cash and cash equivalents and the Fund will no longer be pursuing its stated investment objective. Shareholders of the Fund may redeem their investments as described in the Fund’s Prospectus.
    Pursuant to the Plan, if the Fund has not received your redemption request or other instruction prior to January 15, 2024, your shares will be redeemed on January 15, 2024, and you will receive your proceeds from the Fund, subject to any required withholding. These proceeds will generally be subject to federal and possibly state and local income taxes if the redeemed shares are held in a taxable account, and the proceeds exceed your adjusted basis in the shares redeemed.
    If you hold your shares in an IRA account, you have 60 days from the date you receive your proceeds to reinvest or “rollover” your proceeds into another IRA and maintain their tax-deferred status. If your IRA account is held directly with the Fund, you must notify the Fund’s transfer agent by telephone at 800-540-6807 (toll free) or 414-203-9064 prior to January 15, 2024, of your intent to rollover your IRA account to avoid withholding deductions from your proceeds. If the Fund does not receive a response prior to January 15, 2024, your investment in the Fund will be liquidated as an age-based distribution with 10% federal withholding on January 15, 2024. Please also note that state withholding may also apply. If the redeemed shares are held in a qualified retirement account such as an IRA, the redemption proceeds may not be subject to current income taxation. You should consult with your tax advisor on the consequences of this redemption to you.
    Shareholder inquiries should be directed to the Fund at 800-540-6807 (toll free) or 414-203-9064.
    Please retain this supplement for your reference.
  • Leuthold: the lights have all turned red, time to lighten up on stocks
    LCR is a fund of funds. LCORX hold individual equities, bonds, etc.
    LCR seems like the sort of product Jan Loey's is not in favor of--as discussed in this thread.
    As described at etf.com:
    LCR is an actively managed fund of funds that provides exposure to a broad range of asset classes from global markets including emerging. The Fund uses a quantitative investment approach that focuses on sector selection. LCR considers multiple factors when making its allocations, including economic conditions, monetary factors, inflation, interest rates, investor confidence, and technical stock market measures. Under normal conditions the fund will hold 30%-70% of the portfolio assets in a combination of both stock and bond exposure with up to 20% in near-cash investments. Bonds selected will have no regard on issuer, maturity, and credit quality. LCR adjusts its portfolio as needed to keep the fund invested in sectors which can result in high portfolio turnover that reduces returns. The Fund may also invest in REITs, MLPs, commodities, volatility indexes, managed futures and short sales.
    Do I really need to pay leuthold .85 cents to invest 20% in money markets, 15% in tech, 15% in short-term treasuries, etc?
    It should also be noted that LCR is about 50% equities, while LCORX is about 16% equities.
  • Serious question about bond funds
    I’ve long held a slug in international bonds thru an etf. Seriously considering shifting that into an etf that’s about 70% U.S. & 30% foreign. ISTM that with the 10 year near 5% U.S. bonds are the better choice now. What am I missing?
    FWIW, that's the domestic/foreign bond ratio that Vanguard recommends as a default (albeit home-biased) allocation.
    This familiarity [with US fixed income instruments] leads many investors to portfolios with a large home bias. ...
    Recently, our Investment Strategy Group took a deeper look into our current fixed income exposure with a key question in mind: Should we change the fixed income home bias?
    Our updated research reaffirms how and why this asset class continues to add value for investors. It also upholds our belief that maintaining a meaningful allocation to international bonds (30% of the total fixed income exposure) is a sufficient way for investors to improve risk-adjusted returns within their portfolios.
    Vanguard, (Re)validating the case for international bonds, May 15, 2023
    I'm disinclined to time markets. See thread: JP Morgan: do yourself a favor, don't overthink this one It's one thing to say that you're satisfied locking in 5% yields; it's another to move money around based on which market is better today.
    As to what one might be missing: the dollar is currently strong. If/when it reverses, a declining dollar will help non-hedged foreign investments (debt and equity).
    The value of the US dollar has risen sharply in the second half of 2023, compared to currencies of many other countries including the British pound, the Japanese yen, and the euro.
    https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/trading-investing/strong-dollar
  • Fidelity has "disappeared" Dodge & Cox funds
    A search for Dodge and Cox (or Dodge & Cox) in the search box returns nothing. Fidelity's fund screener has removed Dodge&Cox from the family list.
    Vanguard (another $75 TF family) is still in the fund screener and the search box still returns info on Vanguard funds, even funds that Fidelity doesn't carry like VTMSX. But not D&C.
    You can still find the pages for D&C funds by substituting the appropriate ticker in the URL below. Fidelity still carries these funds. That's another way to find the fund info - enter a trade to buy a D&C fund, then follow the link that the page provides to that fund. But you have to have a login to do that.
    https://digital.fidelity.com/prgw/digital/research/quote/dashboard/summary?symbol=DODLX
  • Serious question about bond funds
    I’ve long held a slug in international bonds thru an etf. Seriously considering shifting that into an etf that’s about 70% U.S. & 30% foreign. ISTM that with the 10 year near 5% U.S. bonds are the better choice now. What am I missing?
  • High Yearend Distributions
    For TIAA-CREF (T-C) funds,
    T-C G&I TIGRX / TRGIX 18.42% / 17.90%
    T-C LC Value TRLIX / TRLCX 5.95% / 5.98%
    Following are not large but notable for index funds.
    T-C LC Value Index TILVX / TRCVX 2.52% / 2.47%
    T-C SC Blend Index TISBX / TRBIX 1.46% / 1.46%
    T-C LC Growth Index TILIX / TRIRX 1.27% / 1.26%
    A common theme of these index funds is the use of Russell indexes that aren't selective and reconstitute in a poor way (all on a preannounced day).
  • Serious question about bond funds
    Funds that invest in VARIABLE rate securities tend to be less volatile (because of smaller duration) than those that invest in similar quality fixed-rate securities. Of course, they work the best in steady or rising rate environment.
    This year, junky FR/BL have done the best. The Treasury FRN USFR is doing well too.
    Treasury ZEROS may work for some who want built-in reinvestments and have some goals for specific years. There are lots of them available in the secondary market. Treasury strips are made out of regular Treasuries by separating the principal and interest payments. So, a 30-yr Treasury may become 1 huge "principal" piece and 30 smaller "interest" pieces. Because of this, Treasury ZEROs of variety of maturities are available. Yes, they are volatile but will pay 100% at maturity. Example - $100 10-yr 5% ZERO can be bought for $61.39 only; it will be volatile, but will pay $100 in 10-yrs. It may be difficult to buy CDs beyond 7-10 yrs.
  • AAII Sentiment Survey, 10/18/23
    AAII Sentiment Survey, 10/18/23
    BEARISH (barely) became the top sentiment (34.8%; above average) & neutral remained the bottom sentiment (31.3%; average); bullish became the middle sentiment (34.1%; below average); Bull-Bear Spread was -0.7% (below average). Investor concerns: Budget; inflation; economy; the Fed; dollar; crypto regulations; market volatility (VIX, VXN, MOVE); Russia-Ukraine war (86+ weeks, 2/24/22-now); Israel-Hamas; geopolitical. For the Survey week (Th-Wed), stocks were down, bonds down, oil up, gold up, dollar up. The DC is clogged without a House Speaker. Bond vigilantes are lifting the long end of the rates. #AAII #Sentiment #Markets
    https://ybbpersonalfinance.proboards.com/post/1215/thread
  • Serious question about bond funds
    Tonight on CNBC every Treasury bill, note, and bond listed is either at or above 5%, or right on the doorstep (only the 5y and 10y).